A different kind of public
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13 Jan 2007, 15:10
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News
For a long old while we've been wondering about how best to run a public ET server. Our kind friends at X3M have provided us with an excellent server, but how do you seperate one public server from the rest?
Ronner & 
Rafiki have been working hard these past days to come up with an alternative competition server. What they've done is gone and coded a PB GUID Authentification System. This system means, that if your PB GUID is not in your profile here on Crossfire, you're not getting on the gameserver.
Why does that matter? It matters because PB GUID's can only be spoofed via ETKey manipulation, so that means if you're banned from Crossfire (for being a hacker for example), then you're banned from that server. It also means that those random hackers, who you've never heard of and only play on publics also cannot play on that server. It means that whilst we cant stop Loekino from medwhoring and backshooting, we can stop the people that should'nt be there.
If that wasnt enough, this dynamic duo also coded a HitPoint script which through the console will tell you and you alone how much health your enemy had when he killed you. Something we've all wanted to know in the past!
The system will go live via your Crossfire profile later this week, with the server waiting to be used after that. Once its been successfully tested, the system will also be implemented on the telenet servers. There will be a newspost later this week when the system is fully operational. Your thoughts, input and requests are welcome.
EDIT
Ronner has changed the "hpleft" scripting. You can now enable and disable it by using /showhpleft 0 or 1 in the console.
Ronner & Rafiki have been working hard these past days to come up with an alternative competition server. What they've done is gone and coded a PB GUID Authentification System. This system means, that if your PB GUID is not in your profile here on Crossfire, you're not getting on the gameserver. Why does that matter? It matters because PB GUID's can only be spoofed via ETKey manipulation, so that means if you're banned from Crossfire (for being a hacker for example), then you're banned from that server. It also means that those random hackers, who you've never heard of and only play on publics also cannot play on that server. It means that whilst we cant stop Loekino from medwhoring and backshooting, we can stop the people that should'nt be there.
If that wasnt enough, this dynamic duo also coded a HitPoint script which through the console will tell you and you alone how much health your enemy had when he killed you. Something we've all wanted to know in the past!
The system will go live via your Crossfire profile later this week, with the server waiting to be used after that. Once its been successfully tested, the system will also be implemented on the telenet servers. There will be a newspost later this week when the system is fully operational. Your thoughts, input and requests are welcome.
EDIT
Ronner has changed the "hpleft" scripting. You can now enable and disable it by using /showhpleft 0 or 1 in the console.
the hp-left script is ofcourse already enabled.
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though ET sux
wd lads :)
so if my guid is "NOGUID" i have to enter noguid at xfire?
/condump pbguid.txt
It'll be near the bottom of the file called pbguid.txt (which you'll find in etpro or etmain)
about the public server idea, i like it but let's see if it's reliable or not.
meanwhile it's a good way for xfire to increase a lot more the number of users in their database :P
cheers.
sometimes u wonder how much health ur opponent has left cause u feel u had some good hits on him.. i think its just fun to see how much health they have left, when ur on a public..
the whiners that don't like it can turn it off with /showhpleft 0 in console imo
i've been playing on the servers with this feature for a long time...
i think you're not aware of the potential of this feature imo (in my opinion). fortunately it only works on those xfire pub servers.
dont think any other FPS would take advantage of such feature.
tbh (to be honest), If some people take advantage of it and therefor it will give them some advantage ahead of their enemy, well.. every aspect of the game is to play smarter then ur enemy..
everyone can get aim by praccing, but not everyone can play smart.. and do the right thing at the right time.. if someone manage to give them self an huge advantage cause they know how much health their enemy had left when he got killed..(cant see how that can be done, since the guy will be far away, healing himself or selfkilling at this time), then thats cause he is smarter then those who cant take that advantage and therefor deserves it..
oh, so now a script is a aspect of the game?
what do you think cheats are then?
and it's exactly coz people should play smart that i believe these kind of scripts shouldnt be used. this is the same as upgrading the brain of the dumbest players because they can't be smart enough to predict their opponent health through the number of hits.
seeing that maps are made of scripts, I'd say yes... ;)
but i know what you mean, however, this is public, CB or ESL isn't played on publics, nor is it played with this script. So have fun! :D
Fritzbot! Im liek tottaly pwning those bots and they always go the same way, so multikills guaranteed!!!!!
They can't exit the spawn on braundorf when playing with me. ;(
how can i grep my etpro and etpb guid?
Then write it down.
there's also a command to get it saved as a .txt file, but i forgot :o
And make it minimum 2 months as a member before you can put your guid in ronner.
As for everyone clean that registers where, well hopefully they wont get offended, like you seems to get :), if they cant play on a server someone set up and payed for. There are 10000 other servers you can choose to play on and guess what the fuck I'd do? I'd go to one of those instead...
i'm just trying to aware all people out there for situations like:
<noob1> wow, let's try et, seems like a decent game
<noob2> ok, let's connect to this server
<noob1> doesnt work for me, how about you?
<noob2> doesnt work too ..
after trying a couple of servers...
<noob1> let's play CS !
<noob2> ok
conclusion: 2 weeks seems fine. 2 months is nonsense imo.
btw i hope you're not serious when you stated that every1 in xfire is clean. better read fusen post again and i'm not offended :P just trying to analyse this situation from all possible points of view rather then mine only.
Also, I have never in my life said that everyone on xfire is clean.
Feels like the CPMA CA TDM servers, when you get killed you see how many armor/health the enemy had left when he killed u
add colored models or something like that :x would be mutch better
i will look into something where you can disable it for yourself if it annoys you.
only a few contra's:
1) this means that all the et-players who want to join a server, have to be on crossfire.nu. How more users, how more visitors for crossfire, how more money.
2) this also means that the servers who will be using this, are what i called the crossfire-community servers imo! So this brings also a bigger crossfire community
and i'm against monopolies ...
I'm assuming you're against monopolies because they can force things on people? Well ETPro are the only competition mod so where's the difference?
Yet we trust etpro because they're doing it for the good of the community, with community input - does the same not apply here?
1 server isn't a monopoly anyway, perk for members.
There's easier ways of generating traffic than hosting a server.
You'd be right if we said only people with x3m servers can use this, that'd be bad - but that's not gonna happen ~/
Punkbuster is general, this not yet! PB is also not company-based, it has a contract with id to support it for a few years (which is passed btw).
It still is the same point like you said with only x3m servers, now it's only with crossfire users.
"It still is the same point like you said with only x3m servers, now it's only with crossfire users."
Not so much. Is there anyone competing with Crossfire? Besides any money made from Crossfire goes back into the community...
And no there is no-one competing with crossfire, but you are not going to tell me that all of this is free and just out of love of et :-)
it's all about the money in this world
What's this site if not "free and just out of love of ET"?
If it were possible to make money the way you are suggesting, then the money would go back to the players, and so it wud do more good without realising?
(Plus if you think ppl click those google ads you're very wrong!)
so what a second, you now turn this "crossfire monopoly" into a "<insert new site> monopoly>", do you just have something against crossfire or something? as what you suggested wouldn't be fixing the "problem" you see, it'd merely be moving it
this thing only will enlarge crossfire when it's on an independent site it won't be participating in any kind of monopoly...
or, this site where everything is already set up and the usernames actually have a background as they post comments etc and interact with other users.
and the server felt a bit laggy on my crappy comp, maybe too much PBSS or too big PBSS?
for now the server is open to everyone, but not for long
BUT IT LIKE THAT WAY, that every person who have been busted, even including every busted person in yawn.be, can not join the server xD !
and that hitpoint script should find its way into next etpro release :)
You go to your profile on crossfire.nu
You enter your pbguid there. (you can't yet, it's in development)
This pbguid will be known to the server from now on, but only if your crossfire account is older than 2 weeks (to prevent cheaters from just registering and hacking away on the server right from day 1)
If you get caught cheating, your pbguid will be removed from the list. This means you can't connect anymore to the server.
Crossfire is now using testing this extensively. If this works out, then other favo pubs such as telenet will also start using this system and possibly we will work on a centralised database.
Just see this as a way to circumvent the CDKEY issue that et simply never had.
Problem is is that ET is a free game and thus there is no unique way of telling who's who. The only thing we have is PBguid which is directly comming from your etkey file.
To create a way of telling who's who i don't think it's too much trouble to make a backup of your etkey file. We make backups of all kinds of stuff, pictures, music, cfg's etc.etc.. so backing up one tiny file isn't so hard for something you spend so much time in.
Great great idea. Respect homiez
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i shoot to some guy, i almost kill him, but before that someone else kills me and i see Your opponent had still 140 hp. i wonder hwo much hp had the guy which i persuited.
but i guess that cannot be coded anyway
Random-12-yearold: OMG WTF.. HP ???
Juize: 9762382103971293414791724612
<me> no, canon
ADD LEAGUES TO THIS DATABASE!
anyway GG!
But on the other hand, they'd get pwnt anyway :p
good work :)
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Why not disable the kick function when you've entered the PB guid function? Yesterday i played on efterlyst (with my nick ironically) and after ~150 bullets shot i had an accuracy of 63 and they wanted to kick me from the server because of the high accuracy. I think it's kinda lame since if you got this pbguid feature you can immediately see who's playing and there is almost no possibility for cheaters to come.
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What you are suggesting is simply destroying anonimity. I don't care about it, but I can imagine ppl with lots of fanbois do.
Perhaps I'll put it to a poll wether ppl should be able to view someone's crossfire account name with /showcfname x (where x is the playernumber)
But is it really that tough a punishment to get banned for 2 weeks? 2 weeks because they can just create a new cd key, new crossfire account, and be on their way.