ClanBase Controversy! Canada Kicked From NC, USA Withdrawn
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15 Feb 2009, 00:51
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Crossfire tonight learned that the struggling USA team will be withdrawn from this years ClanBase NationsCup XII - amid howls of controversy and scandal engulfing the entire North American scene! This a move that will further compound what has been a torrid time for Enemy Territory stateside.
Although details are currently sketchy, reports from across the pond are that alea, though American, not currently on the US roster, and anim, team Canada's captain, covertly played for the USA team in their first match week loss to Slovenia.
The favour was returned with theend playing for Canada in their victory over Hungary in Group C.
These revelations leave ClanBase in a sticky position as to their next move, with a minimum red card for both teams (i.e. forfeiting matches played with mercs) seeming a certainty. This fiasco also leaves many asking as to possible repercussions for the NA scene, with ClanBase due shortly to announce their first North American ladder.
Team USA are currently sitting bottom of Group D after losing their opening encounter against Slovenia, and are scheduled to play Croatia Sunday night, 21:00 CET. It is unlikely that this match will be played.
More details to follow!
Update: Following the initial bans imposed by ClanBase C&A on the actual players, the ClanBase ET admins have now acted and have kicked Canada out of the competition.
http://clanbase.ggl.com/news_league.php?nid=310916&lid=8339
Although details are currently sketchy, reports from across the pond are that alea, though American, not currently on the US roster, and anim, team Canada's captain, covertly played for the USA team in their first match week loss to Slovenia.
The favour was returned with theend playing for Canada in their victory over Hungary in Group C.
These revelations leave ClanBase in a sticky position as to their next move, with a minimum red card for both teams (i.e. forfeiting matches played with mercs) seeming a certainty. This fiasco also leaves many asking as to possible repercussions for the NA scene, with ClanBase due shortly to announce their first North American ladder.
Team USA are currently sitting bottom of Group D after losing their opening encounter against Slovenia, and are scheduled to play Croatia Sunday night, 21:00 CET. It is unlikely that this match will be played.
More details to follow!
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Update: Following the initial bans imposed by ClanBase C&A on the actual players, the ClanBase ET admins have now acted and have kicked Canada out of the competition.
http://clanbase.ggl.com/news_league.php?nid=310916&lid=8339
Granted not all that lyrical, but I've not used obscure English?
Can't handle the excitement, I want to know what happened!
I dnt even have it on here XD
Anyway gooooodnight
smurfing is more like getting a 'merc' (not on team list) to act as another player (is on the team list) without the other team knowing.
i don't think etkey does anything in terms of yawn. just get the pb guid always going to be the same AFAIK.
(but this time slajdan is right - if the etpro guids have been spoofed(and not only the etkey's been shared) -> not only red card for playing with not allowed players but 6(or 12 for cheating in official) months for cheating)
e: does every player/captain/manager/house keeper involved get a 6 months ban aswell, for knowingly playing with a cheater?:P
ANIM: YOU SHOULD HAVE GOTTEN HIM TO RING FOR YOU. ALL YOU HAD TO DO WAS GO DOWN TO THE 8TH FLOOR AND WAKE HIM UP.
haha
but ofc this isn't such a good thing ie the scandal for the game nor the community (that in usa started looking a lot more active again)
NOT :)
next time make NC EU only, then the playing on US servers is also gone, no whining about hat anymore.
Atleast give the whole team, including the team captian a 6 months ban!
Well done USA, I have always wondered how you can surprise me with your stupidy. To be honest this might be a blessing in disguise.
use other words :/
Nice one guys, wp !
CANADA IS AMERICAS RETARDED LITTLE BROTHER
really weak.
it was supposed be an answer on this part. sounds to me like your intention is to outline him as an arrogant player.
but just let those teams play , they won't reach playoff anyway.
ban USA!
Two of the players implicated hold positions of authority in NA comp & have completely ignored their responsibility in the examples they set. One of whom (as soon as I get confirmation) will be losing that position.
To be honest the problem started at the top. Not that Mistaken did anything wrong but the captain position was given to somebody these guys weren't gonna listen to. In NA if you haven't been playing since beta or are not a part of certain group, these guys won't follow you. Anybody that knows anything about any of the various ET related organizations/projects I'm involved in knows that Mistaken is right there with me assiting in everyway he can. He may be brash sometimes but thats because he's very passonatie about the game & everything he does surronding it. He puts alot into this community & I only wish these guys would atleast give him the respect he deserves for that.
It's a shame that this reflects NA comp as a whole because theres several players over here that would have never done something like this. I can only hope that ClanBase deals with this on an individual basis & not take future action on these 2 teams as whole. It would be a shame if our last opportunity for USA & Canada to represent itself against the rest of the world would go down like this.
We're hardly a 'group'. Me and Matt are from BD, Axcess from Gameface, Alea/Silver u5, Common from Fatal Attraction, Vader/Anim from Excel, and Ouch from Rapid Oxidation. Not everyone likes each other but for the most part, they haven't played ET much recently, have grown up and got along nicely last season and when we played as Excel with the Japs.
Tbh, if Mistaken was captain we would have played if we wanted to. Of course he's shown his colors to the rest of us so we probably wouldn't play with him now even if we wanted to play. But I would have had captain anyways if we wanted to play. I still find it hilarious how he disappeared from IRC and changed his name on Steam to Proof after not logging in for several weeks. He won't even talk on vent if me or shaftz0r are ringing now LOL. Before he decided to be a douchebag, he was very polite, was very passionate about fragging Euros in EC and wanted to join Facial's L4D team. Hard to put on a plastic face all the time I guess.
1) person who played for wrong team getting banned
2) team captain getting banned for being responsible for the members of "his" team
3) banning team from upcoming NC event
I TOTALLY FORGOT HOW YOU WERE RAPING US THE WHOLE GAME, YOU ARE GONNA WIN THIS NC FOR SURE!
However this has absolutely nothing to do with the question of who should replace canada, in case they get discqualified. They were our oponent in the qualifier and if they get disqualified match results should get reverted and if there would be a nation to replace them that would be us.
LEAVE SMURFTANG ALOOOOOOONEEEEE
And apologize!!!
+ the quote where hes raging about getting owned by mr 25 acc (im sorry,cant helpt it ur so stupid. Maybe with some brain you can kill me after the respawn next time)
Ah wait, ur one of his faggot buddies who will keep spamming me cause i flamed ur cocksucker? gtfo, i dont got time for this bs
allways same crap. flame one retard and the next moment all his gay little lemming buddies are pming me.
You said "I gotta listen and reply to them? No tnx." yet you still replied to him. So wtf were you trying to say again?
You obviously have enough time since you wrote me a small paragraph. Comments like "gtfo" don't work with me, I'm not 12. Try harder with your next post or don't waste my time with your 12 year old comments.
I dont know you at all, im even wondering why you joined this discussion in the first place. Do you know me? Have you ever played with me? Who the fuck are you?
edit: ok checked ur profile. Ur and simon is on your buddy list. Stop wasting my time.
Repeating my words and just changing a couple of things is called plagiarism or something you do when you can't come up with something of your own. In other words, you have nothing to say.
Do I have to know you in order to ask you a question on this online video game forum/board?
I'll repeat myself again because it seems that you can't read(AGAIN.) All I posted was a simple question and you replied with a post by calling me names. Also, what was the point of the questions you asked me? They can be applied for you as well since I have no idea who you are... pointless.
Your Edit: What does that have to do with anything? Was "simon" part of my first question? You want to get back at me but you can't because you have nothing to say. So basically, stop trying.
i almost feel sorry
plz whadafack man -_-
chile!!!
chile!!!
chile!!!
chile!!!
chile!!!
chile!!!
Pretty sure that 80% of NA thinks that anyways lol.
"Hey they are planting controls"
*overdrive is planting landmines at back of braundorf instead*
http://clanbase.ggl.com/humaninfo.php?hid=2503954&suspend=1
o/
We really don't care too much about the integrity of our ET community. Wow we have 10 good players left and loads of cheaters. You want to see the US community thriving again? Just wait for Wolfenstein : )
You guys are pretty weak at the cliché’d yank rage, we’ve seen it all before, they where better than you.
I’ve seen the proof, seems fairly conclusive – shit happens, you got caught this time, deal with it. You clearly do "care" ‘n the massive amount of views show that others do too :}
:}
Is that your automatic response to everything?
there you go
hahahahahahaha made my day, you go on the top of my #1 retard list.
For your information : they won supply , we won gold then they ragequit , TOO BAD FOR YOU WE STILL GOTZ THE TEAMPLAY
wtf are you criticizing me anyways , you get blown away by everybody so you can't know the difference between skill and hax , cunt
Why is it too bad for me btw, I don't care. It's just that whine like yours is whine in 9 out of 10 cases and not cheats.
And the CB & CF-banlist begs to differ about the "no consequences".
I know i whine alot about people cheating , but history proved me right 90% of the time.
Those 2000 or w/e bans every month are 99.99% all pubnoobs who noone cares about . It's the blatant hacking " highskillers" like sweden ( not you savage ) and others who need to be dealt with.
Next time don't edit your original posts after I replied on it.
"I know i whine alot about people cheating , but history proved me right 90% of the time."
Any names, or should I take your word for it?
"Those 2000 or w/e bans every month are 99.99% all pubnoobs who noone cares about . It's the blatant hacking " highskillers" like sweden ( not you savage ) and others who need to be dealt with."
Clanbase can only ban players who have registered unto their website and hence their bans can only effect competitive players, and I can assure you there are more low+/med/med+ hackers than there are highskilled hackers and they're as annoying for me as they are for you. Who of those Swedes do you consider blatant hackers btw?
And out of sheer curiosity, who did you play that game with?
"no not rly , people like perfo are again playing eurocup / nationscup np4them "
Perhaps because they received and served their punishment and are now using their second chance?
2. perfo , kenji or kenta or w/e his name was , the portugese team , Svper and lot's of others
3. newbje uniX and another fakenicker
4. the word reunion doesn't mean anything to you ? Now you are gonna say you played with ex-hackers as well , well ye but they weren't cheating anymore ( and i don't consider them REAL hackers since they didn't try to cover it up like everybody else , they deliberatly tracked trough walls ( Now you might say well that's the same as team.swe now but the difference is overload came forward with it once tosspot asked them , team.swe has been hacking for years now , np4them)) and playing in a team without ex-cheaters is virtually impossible since 99% of ET is either hacking or an ex-hacker.
5. an idiot will always be an idiot , a criminal will always be a criminal and a hacker will always want to hack.
5. "an idiot will always be an idiot" You just showed me that's true.
They weren't proving a point , it was more like a Fuck You to all you tards
5. "Been asked to leave as Supervisor after only 2 months, most likely the fastest time set to this day."
If even they , the biggest tards of all , don't find you fit to join them i would not start to call other people idiots
Checking your old journals:
http://www.crossfire.nu/?x=journal&mode=item&id=74134
http://www.crossfire.nu/?x=journal&mode=item&id=52583
Seems like a yes to me.
i'm 99% of the time completely right but people like you can't understand the bigger issues and therefor think i'm wrong,( regarding those two journals ) unfortunately for belgium there are tards like you in politics who still think there is no problem at all ,you'll see in 5-10 years when it's too late or when you decide too get some sunlight on ur skin
ye and now check their latest comments on gtv aka "never hacked in any offi / never hacked at all"
And do you realy believe your own bullshit about the overload situation? they didn't come forward with it straight away, they were trying and lieing around with it for over a month, vila came forward with it when both him and some other was deliberatly busted, some of the others still deny it in the regular belgian fashion.
And how can you justify your own playing with such an opinion? :-D
1. you say they cheated for over a month , while i know they only cheated like 2/3 weeks
2. If you think they were trying to hide it ingame you should recheck ETTV
3. The big reason why they started hacking is because they got "owned" by mr obvious hacker waiderko & co and they were sick of it ( NOT A GOOD REASON BUT w/e ) so they decided to start hacking untill a week before cpc ( to re-adjust ) , then play/bash cpc , and then quit et .
They did not hide anything since they knew nobody can do shit if they don't have a ridiculous amount of proof so they didn't hide it at all , people watched ettv and saw it ... like everybody knows from 85% of EC teams they hack but can't prove it , then 2 weeks later ( or somthn) tosspot pms the manager ( and i do know the whole story since i was on vent with them at that time ) and asks him about their situtation ( wether they were hacking or not ) the manager tells him to talk to zeto ( since he was the only one on vent at that time ) . Tosspot asked if they hacked ... zeto said no ... tosspot said that and i do quote " if you and your team admit now that you cheated , we will let you play cpc " Zeto called vila and asked what to do , vila said DENY DENY , i said DENY DENY , but zeto believed tosspot and went ahead and said they cheated. Not longer than 1 minute later there was a post on xfire saying all players of overload admitted to cheating ( which was bullshit since only zeto said they cheated ).
2 Minutes later new post saying overload have all been banned from xfire & cpc , zeto jetro & kevin said FUCK IT download some pubhack, aimbotted on a pub and got a cb ban .
Vila had to make a statement and said he cheated.
3 weeks later lio & acid( who denied ever hacking because they knew cb couldn't do shit) joined rodcad for some fun , cb admin ( i think bartichello ) pmd prydz telling them they wouldn't be allowed to play EC if they had lio & acid in their team. THAT is how corrupt those fucking tards are. Cheating is bad , and i suggest every player that has ever hacked gets a pb ban but if you don't do that and you still let known hacktards play ( like israel's destiny ) let everybody play , hell why not allow wallhacks and make a whole new ladder if you're gonna be that retarded.
bibuy
You are allowed to adress one(or more) induvidual(s) of a group as "them" but you can't take someone else placing you in a group.
And how do you know you havn't played with them while you(some of them) was cheating? "Everyone" has seen some of those guys induvidual performances both on lan and with anti3, I got some ridiculously good examples,
but nvm, if you realy think we cheat why don't we play 6v6 with antipro on chapljas pub server then or wait for when it is out?
imho it's very very very much more likely that some of your mates starts cheating again or already have than that anyone of us would do it. Once a cheater always a cheater.(yeh ofc savage was busted a long time ago but what is 1v5? x-D)
and if you think i use " them" or "you" to point out some of the members of team.swe , i don't , i do mean the whoçle fucking team is hacking
- i know when overload started hacking cause i've known them for years and they tell me everything , i knew the day they started hacking and i knew when it ended ( few days before toss' lame inquiry) I know they are not hacking now cause their hacks don't work anymore because of the memory corrupted shit.
-I'd love to see you play them with or without me on a clean server vs you clean. The one from the match who had the fake nick starting with k will not be playing then i'm sure of that.
The fact of the matter is , it just annoys me to see vila & lio & acid getting rejected from EC\NC even when they are not CB banned while people like perfo can play like nothing happend ( not meaning vila & lio should play , but meaning perfo should be kicked the fuck off )
- the time you say is bs and some of those busted have both tested and cheated for a longer time, and if you know why didn't you stop them and in worst case bust them? and how do you know it is corrupted memory now? selfbust :-D
-Im sure I will. ;-]
-perfo served his ban, there is lots of guys I think should get a big fat ban also, but it is unlikely going to happen, that doesnt mean I must start cheating does it? when antipro comes out all this rage whine all you belgians have inside you will boil over, you should try to control it, accept the fact that there is alot of cheaters and not get überangry when an opponent with a probable big fucking advantage kills/wins you.
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FUCKING EUROS
and really it's not like usa/can had these "smurfs" hacking. they used illegitimate players; they were caught; they were punished. it is what it is.
PORKCHOP SANDWICHES
GL to the other countries