Removal of Croatia, Netherlands and Finland
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9 Mar 2009, 18:56
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News
After a complaint about the lineup of team Croatia regarding the rule:
We have turned The result for the matches Croatia vs Germany and Croatia vs Slovenia into forfeit losses. This means the team will be removed from the NationsCup.
During the Search on this case 2 other cases also emerged namely Team Finland and Team Netherlands. They have apparently broken the same above rule in their matches. I won't list all the games the event occurred in As it would only fill the page. Since both are also receiving at least 2 forfeit losses they will be removed from the cup with th same reason as team Croatia.
EDIT:
BRB LAUGHING :DDDD
edit: Would be nice if the admin who made this decision would mention their name
you dirty hippy :(
edit: the jaka flame is retarded, the amount of people that would do exactly what he did if they were in his shoes is just unreal, have half of you people not played ET long enough yet to realise people will do _ANYTHING_ for a forfeit?
e: if its nations cup it should be allowed to choose best players from ur country whatever team they was in !
Which again asks the question, why do we allow people with no knowledge or interest in the scene dictate as to what happens? Keep the ClanBase ET admins, but drop the worthless backlog of 'Chiefs'.
basing my trust on the previous topics, jakazc was the one to come up with this utter bullshit
np!
IF FINLAND GOES DOWN POLAND GOES WITH THEM
alot of guys did yes but posted that a better solution would be to just add croatia again
According to this rule it's irrelevant, because they only talk about the guys that are in the roster, so u should have been punished as well (if keran and hatred ever were in NC lineup even)
Also 3 of "them" in Defix never played together so np.
Since the belgium line up =
Jere
Worm
Spiroze
Sil
So you have also 4 players from the same team.
i would say. ingore cb.
spiro added after 2nd matchweek, we waited because we knew the rule ;)
Jokes aside, this is quite ridiculous :)
- Top player whining;
- Croatia removed for having some previously inactive players in a lineup of a team;
- Netherlands removed for the same reason;
- Finland for having people in the lineup of a 3on3 clan;
Who wins? Nobody. JaKa better protect his ass next LAN.
SIGNUPS OPEN
:)
i agreeu
YOU'RE OFFICIALLY MORE HATED THAN ALEXL NP !
and even if both teams were active i doubt we ever had more than 3 players from either of them
but its a stupid rule in any case
even with the correct rule i dont see why 4 or 5 players couldnt play an official for a 3on3 clan in one cup
So it's possible, but they wouldn't have any teamplay or any advance whatsoever in that case (even if they all took turns and played as our 3rd (which they didn't do)).
The rule itself is good but I fail to see how it applies for a 3on3 team or for teams that played ages ago, not now...
Last season fin played with 5 vae guys and I'd understand if they would be punished for that, but punishing for defix is ridiculous in my eyes..
honestly, can u explain to me how 5 or even 4 finnish guys can play at same time in a 3on3 team?
dig now?
ye! we should have had zenix as NL captain and none of all this would have happened!
Even though i don't agree with the course of action and the result this holds for the et scene yet again by this decision, this was simply a rookie mistake by the captains involved.
(still its rules, so bad luck)
this game is about playing, not about some retarded rules - which noone gives a fuck about - and admin powers.
rules are rules
like you'd find it out if it was not frozz's whine :)
too bad for the netherlands, Gl anyway overboost en jasper!
they're easy to misunderstand or think that you arent doing anything wrong, they arent all as simple as do or dont
Let's take a closer look at what is written in the rules shall we.
- Players are considered to still be members of any active clan they've been a member of (no matter how briefly) after 29th September 2008 until Monday of the 2nd Match Week of the cup.
- Activity for clans is defined as participating in any ClanBase competition (Hosted Cups and QuickCups which are not intended for National teams included, Friendlies excluded).
- Exceptions may apply.
In the first line they give a timeframe when a player is considered a member of an active clan.
In the second line they say "Activity for clans is defined as participating". Activity for clans can either be interpreted as Activity of the clan as a whole or Activity of the player in question. This line is simply not conclusive wether it is either the clan or the player.
The third line "Exceptions may apply", well.. we all know that exceptions never apply with CB, unless it's in their best interest.
I have not failed in selecting the members for Team NL. Tekoa has never played an official match with dNan and is even listed on their "inactive" members on the dNan CB page. There is no rule being broken in fielding him with 3 other dNan players. Well, unless you are a CB admin/chief that interprets line two in their benefit.
Also i find it hilarious that some player has to ring the bell, only THEN clanbase ADMINS find out that there's teams breaking the rules AFTER i don't know how many matches have been played.
+1
But anyone in their right mind would not see tekoa as a 4th dNan player since he never played an offi for dNan, so that's why I never even thought of asking cuz it's just ridiculous to even think that.
come on now, no one likes a bellend.
globalization, suck it bitch.
I don't speak any other language as fluent. If you haven't noticed, England's only official language is English, whereas Belgium - that's another story. And Poland, well I'm not going to say anything or I will sound a little racist.
+ what speaker said
Just boycot this stupid organisation. We don't need people with zero knowledge of the game we play to tell us what is or is not allowed in a cup that is supposed to be fun for players and spectators.
Just like Kot said earlier "It take some serious mental disorder to interpret this rule so as to treat everyone linked to the team account as an active player."
Apparently it takes only a few morons that have never even played ET to destroy a cup that is supposed to be played for the fun of the game for both players and spectators.
Thx retards! I'm not playing for CB ever again and in my opinion, every nation that thinks this is just a retarded decision should just quit this NC as well or continue it under tourney.cc or CF or whatever.
I hope that cb has it's lesson and they will take the rules read them carefully through and remove unclear rules and put new clear and simple rules instead. Also i think that in the rules should be described all the possible unallowed moves/or eg specified exactly where u can plant, not that bug plants are not allowed and then one admin says it is bug plant and other that it isn't.
Also there should be a rule that if it isn't in the rules then u have the right to do it.
It's the only way i can see playing in the future possible since it isn't anymore about the game and enjoying it, it's only about def wins, how sad it is.
Apart from that, the last line of that rule states, "exceptions may apply".
Anyone in their right mind thinking that tekoa is a 4th dNan player cuz he's on the roster of dNan listed in the inactive group and has never played an offi for dNan ever, is retarded in my eyes.
But thx for calling me an idiot.
Whoever complained is a fucking pathetic mongrol!!
Failbase once again. No wonder everbody fucking hates you
I had similar situation ( not this big thou) couple season ago when I was playing OC 5th div 3o3, at the same time I was clanleader of team which was playing in 2nd, however I didn't play a single round with that "better" team but still CB's admin decided to kick my lovely little IRL friend clan from OC's 5th div claiming that I had played with another team. Best thing is that the admin was playing with our next opponent.
I have to agree that boycott is only thing which would "help us", even if it could kill our biggest "supporter". However I can't really know how boycott would support us, but I would be more than happy if we were able to gain some aid from ESL's ET organization who we have done signifant jobs during there lovely years in ET.
Quit flaming ET admins/supervisors who can't change the rules set by those above them.
High respect CB and next NC winner !!
or what kinda joke is this?
only fooled krein !
but don't act stupid ..
on the other hand, we would've won anyways .. i don't give a shit. .. fuck off
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phew, have probably said that thousands times now but care xD
cry me a river, build a bridge and get over it!!!
its a fucking nations cup and your not allowed to have more than 3 persons that play in the same clan lol what kinda fucking useless rule is that? its about the best players of your country not about some retarded rule a bunch of monkeys with a banana in their arses made up. just change the rules, kill the admins. viva la revolucion!
but seriously this is just retarded, gj killing the nc. morons, my little mongoloid cuzin would do a better job making up rules...
waste of other teams of course :D
without jaka noone would have been kicked thats a fact
nice try though
ofc noone would have been kicked... but the point was that CB was making some exceptions, and Jaka was pissed off. Whoever join the cup should understand that RULES ARE RULES, and it's not our fault if rules are fuckuped.
kktnxbb
i never made an argument one way or the other because i dont really care about this years nc
or am I thinking of that gay person screaming at the world to stop harassing britney....
and slovenia still won't win...
loled@cb removing finland cause some of them playing 3on3 together :XD
ITS NOT FIRST APRIL PLEASE
np!
2. we read the rules and interpreted them unlike some other countries, no rules broken(except maybe a bit offensive due to the great forced german servers x-]).
2. No wonder that swedes are now yelling here prolly with huge erection on that RULES ARE RULES, now you finally have a chance again!.
3. Like 90% of the community is saying that cb made a wrong decision and so on, and i wasnt sure about that dispo case, just wondering.
On top of that I also finds it quite hillarious that everyone seems to be angry/upset on CB, and want to "boycott" them while CB don't force anyone to actually play their leagues neither have they stated that they can't change their rules.
I just think that changing the rules according to as circumstances occur kinda nullifies the options and limits on the perceptual concept of a rule
HEY, to take it to the extreme let's say the next time someone that is liked within the community gets busted, we should remove the rule since he was only busted for overtweaking with rivatuner.
The most just thing would be to keep them all banned over this nc season, the next most just thing would be to remove the rule straight away and let all of them 3 countries play, one of the more unjust things would be to unban all of them except croatia.
I'm just saying that this is a fuckin bullshit rule in nationcup case.
last 3on3 official from 18 May '08. imo thats not over 3 years ago. thou it doesnt change anything in this nc conversation but still.
Everybody knew this rule and have to follow it, that's a good lesson for the next NC.
:D
Those admins hands were forced from above after this and once Croatia were kicked they tried their best to get back into the NC by grassing up any other team they could think of.. no one would ever kick big ET Nations like NL and Finland. ;)
This is the admins and the teams that fielded too many players fault, even if the rule is a bit dated. basing it just on the last EC/OC season would have been better.
"National captains are expected to know the full clan history of any player they wish to field; not knowing it will not be an excuse to break this rule"
Good job ronner
thx clanbase nerds
cro should stay in because the rule is stupid, not because their community is small
if u want et dead keep goin on like this^^
anyone who agrees me write +1 under this comment.
at least m33z can still ch33r me up!
or something like that
if not THEN i think it was extremely poorly managed via the clanbase admins. i think they should have just said it came from an undisclosed source. simple.
i think this is where clanbase has ULTIMATELY failed. imo
Plz cb...fail over fail.
E-"sports" ! , diving next ?
HF
Royalblood is the same team as 6s (+/- 3 seasons ago). We played a qualifier against mmf ( http://clanbase.ggl.com/news_league.php?nid=266898&lid=5294 ) + played 3 nationcup together with this lineup. So dont call us a new team.
SELFBUST!