The decision of the Chiefs
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14 Mar 2009, 13:20
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News
The time has come. The Chiefs of Cups made their decision belong to the 'removal case'. By now the CB NationsCup XII isn't frozen anymore.
Following, here is the statement of the Chiefs:
- 1st.) First, it should be made clear that normally exceptions are not to be
given retroactively but if a team captain has a specific question he
should ask beforehand and after it is reasonable, and only then, he should come to the Chiefs to request the exception. That should be the normal procedure to the teams/captains.
- 2nd.) Second, the Chiefs have all agreed unanimously that
Croatia has indeed a more solid case for an exception and although it wasn't requested properly they are willing to have them reinstated back into the cup.
- 3rd.) Third, about the case of
Netherlands the Chiefs didn't had a strong agreement but bottom line they have decided to approve reinstating them as well considering they didn't remove the player from the clan after the ban was
expired for good reasons.
- 4th.) Fourth,
Finland will not be reinstated as they clearly violated
the rule. The Chiefs don't define special clans on CB. So claiming the clan was a '3on3 clan' is not valid in this case.
- 5th.) Fifth, the community should know that the Chiefs aspire to follow our rules
everywhere and everytime and if there's something wrong with them,
they (the community) can come up with suggestions to change it. One such suggestion was made in that crossfire.nu post which the Chiefs will be discussing,
however threatening to drop out of tournaments and stuff like that is not helpful to anyone and will not be regarded as a reason to apply rules or not.
As matter of fact the missing matches will be cought up as soon as possible, to proceed the Playoff Stage. All in all there are three matches missing their scores.
SOURCE: CB NC XII News
Why fin didn't get re-added:
Quote guys, go back to our definitions please. we don't define being a member of a clan by playing for it and we don't define squads or special teams, clans are also those who don't officially play all their matches on CB
even when we told them they were a 3on3 clan we got this:
Quote we can't and won't make such diffenertiations, there's no such thing as 3v3 clan or 6v6 clan unless it's defined by something we can control, just like with inactive sections and "honorary" clans, if it's active, it's a clan and you shouldn't use players from it together
Now about Croatia:
they got re-added because their is a rule (don't think its public) for when a Clanleader adds a player by mistake, since suvi was there for only 5hours, it was considered to be in this rule and thus an exception
About Netherlands:
Since they had an extra player, we(CB ET Sups) managed to find a gd exception, teKoa was Banned during the period the clan was active, so there was no way he could have play during this time, we also gave them the link to the matches.
Altough it would have been nice to see all clans re-added, it does look harsh on finland, but there's nothing much we can do now, we tried our best...
i dont like
there is no clue to bring NL and CRO only .. they all broke the same rule .. nosens at all..
so it's the same case as tekoa's case.. and still we only used 4 players from "defix" in 2 matches (against UK & AUT)
"theres no such thing as 3o3 or 6o6 team"
Let Clanbase see what dickheads they are. Thought we're living in a democratic world (well most of the europeans), majorty of the ET players want all 3 teams re-added, Clownbase should fucking listen to the community!
Why don't continue the NC on crossfire? Just turn our back to Clownbase!
And maybe host next EC also on CF, when CB announces it just copy the shit and run it at the same time! Clownbase can say bb to ET then :D (CF admins now more about ET teams then Clownbase dickheads so the invites and qualies should be better also)
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so what good reasons do they have? surely just let finland know these "good reasons" so that they too can get reinstated amiright?
seems like the ET scene admins are even more retarded than the playerbase
*edit* and with "same thing" I dont mean same to you as to |<1773R|30Y
Where is "dura lex, sed lex"?
not even giving a reason why NED gets back and FIN not :D
(I would've liked both in :<)
aka melanotan
owned
Should have kicked them all out or let them all back.
This decision is the worst they could have done.
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fuck off. can you at least you pretend you care about the game and the players instead of the hits on your back to the past site.
mundus, barti and co ... you know it aint aimed at you, so plz relay the message to your chief faggots
right ... thats why you did a clownbase again: make a fubar decission, combo with another stupid decission, wait one week and recall the epic fail and even do a bad job at that. I got some nice lesson for you: admitting you are wrong doesnt make you weaker, it actually makes you more professional and stronger.
Your last comment is not only a joke, it is an assault on the average ET players intelligence. I know its the internet but do you really think we are this stupid? How about a fucking apology? Afaik its the players who make CB, not your stupid rules. You think you get sponsorship for running tournaments? I'm sorry, its us the players your sponsors want to reach.
yours truely,
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ps: it took them 4-5 days to come up with this decision? pathetic ... do they need a picture + a manual to understand what they should do?
Yes, rules are rules.: 55.2%
No, change the rules!: 44.8%
Did Clanbase make a mistake by kicking NL and FI from nc?
[ ] yes
[ ] no
the current poll insinuates the first option is the rightious one / better one + polls on xfire allow any player to vote, even ppl who dont play competition activly or ppl who dont have a clue what is going on in this scene.
[ ] no
stop making a joke of yourself ... seriously
Have Defix played any 6on6 match?? For me it seems as you just wanted to keep one team out to show that its you who is 'the man here', right?
CB acting like ass is also not helpful to anyone.. And CB was the starter.
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E: well, don't care tbh
So that, ClanBase is extremely stubborn in their policy - they make a big deal out of simple reversing the wrong decision - its all required (from their perspective) for 'saving the face'/'honorable retreat' (hope you know what i mean). That's why it had to take time AND that's also why they couldn't 100% fulfill communities demands AND that's also why they had to say that it's them who feels offended (while it's obviously the other way around and they should apologize).
If players are not on roster or they are not allowed to play then team gets yellow card, so if finland played 2 matches they should get red card (2× yellow).
At first place any team shouldnt be banned from cup like this , basicly CB "violated" their rules again :o)
Jesus fuck you guys are shit admins.
ps. is ikea open on sundays?
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Had your glass of LOYALTY yet today btw?
ye i see.
So it should be all out or all in, because they all broke the rule actually.
But it doesn't surprise me that DutchBase decides in favour of NL.
atleast the drama keeps the game alive =)
gl!
E:btw need one of meez' anime picture for this
guess who's back bitches
Its clear rules and it really dosent matter is the clan active or anything. Finlands team "leader" should be responsible for checking and beeing in contact with players.
in teh butt!
oh wait. SNNNNNNNAP!
GJ for adding CRO looking forward for our game this thoursday
poor FIN :-[
thursday
thursssssssssssssdaaaaaaaaaaaay
As Game Supervisor for ETQW (in before flame), it was my job to handle the request for exceptions for ETQW's NC. One team were granted the exception, and another team wasn't.
The team that wasn't accepted was Team Slovenia (yes, Jaka's team) and the reason being that the majority (if not, all) of the players playing for this country in ETQW would be from mamut.si. Now, if the decision was solely down to me, I would have accepted them in as only Darkman & Jaka were active in ETQW for mamut & the other players had never played a match in the history of ClanBase for mamut.si (with the exception of miso I believe).
However, the CoC (yes I know what it looks like, I make jokes about it all the time) do their best to make their rules & stick by them. This is in every game that ClanBase hosts. Rules are there to keep order therefore it is totally expected that people dislike them. Hell, there are some rules that I dislike but hey, we have to abide by rules.
I have no dealings with the ET section of ClanBase but this situation has really turned into a big mess that was not needed. The teams should not have been reinstated, imo since they broke rules.
Good luck to everyone still in the ET NC, 1st team to not get removed will be placed as gold winner ;o)
SLO or ISR?
what is CB? some sort of indian tribe ? :X
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DEFINE IT THEN