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Alright!.. wat

There it is again!

-.-

maybe test it then public the configs xD

still wrong?

na just forgot to re-upload :D fine now

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okay ;D

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next time test it ffs

what about 5 rnades ?? ;/

not? ?? ;\

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ehh :(

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Make a separate 6o6 config with 5 rnades :C

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good

I don't understand why rifle nades are reduced so we have less spam and then arty rechargetime is made less..doesn't make sense imo

noone has mentioned spamm as reason for changes within these classes so your argument is meaningless. Rifle is too powerfull and fieldops too unattractive to play in 5on5. That are the only reasons.

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maybe raise the energy for one rifleshot, maybe at 1.2 of the current one (so you cant shoot 2 rnades with 1 full chargebar), so the rifel cant spam that much and leave the rechargetime of the fops? but with the reduced chargedtime i saw the last games in 5o5 format that there was artyspam only, so i think it is too powerfull now

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not possible. what we did is all that is possible

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Well I believe I read that some things aren't possible coz of ETPRO, but can't you just change some commands in the etpro source and release a new etpro with the new configs?:)

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find me the etpro source? :X

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Well they released it sometime ago? That's coz antipro could be made?

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nope

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oki!

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or higher rechargetime of the engr-charge and leave the fopschargetime at same level than before, but it is like in starcraft2, they want to see a unit to be used more, then you simply power it up with insane skills, instead of lower its counterunit <.<

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Impossible to define that, the recharge bar is dependent on the class, not by the specific weapon carried, so an engineer with a SMG would have the same recharge bar as an engineer with a rifle.

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well, please read my comment. i know that a engr/smg will have the same rechargetime as the engr/rifel. but why this is a problem? you can plant a new dyna after... 22 seconds? or maybe 20? and if you raise it to 25, you have 5 seconds lost, but you lowered the power of the rifelnadespam a lot

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Perhaps you are right! but it would make building all the truck / tank barriers etc. much harder! : - (

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I second that totally.

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dont you think it'd have been done if it were possible

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Sorry for abusing your comment for this, but would you mind to tell me if you actually considered increasing the fops life-points? I think that increasing his life-points to 123 would make him much more attractive. I don't think that making the game more spam dependent, by decreasing the recharge bar of the fop which results in the fop spamming arty on XYZ every single spawn, is the way to go.

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no I have not come up with that to be honest. But to the other sentence, he's not really able to "spamm" more artillerys regarding the respawns of the opponent as the timer is still 35/25. Without CP built he can still not set an artillery/support each spawn. Thats why we didnt put it down to 30/20.

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Killerboy told me that the 'better' players will have to decide for themselves. So I'm basically waiting and hoping for the best now. : )

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define 'better' and tell me plz, what they have to decide for themselves

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definition of 'better' players: high skilled ones

and they have to decide whether they want the change which I proposed introduced or not, whether in favor of the other change or additionally is yet unknown to me. it's pretty much useless to speculate about that, just wait. oh and then there's the possibility that they will decide to stay with the other change in favor of my suggestion.

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What exactly do you mean by "being too powerful"...?

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every noob can rage with rifle, now maybe not

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Thats quite the bullshit, people like Ati_ cant be compared to shit players like myself, if we both rifle he'll destroy me most certainly, cause it takes a certain skill.

Im still wondering if, just like the mappool, the teams had a vote in this or that a bunch of admins who play this game twice a year decided this.

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dont know what level you play but i am sure you can get a lot of kills with riflenades if you play against an equal skilled team

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Surely, but as he mentioned Ati_ would get more kills than himself against that team of an equal skill

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Because its like panzerfaust except you can spam it and run with it. Also if you have skill its sort of more useful since you can bounce it off the walls.

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and playing cvop is so unactractive too,but nobody cares?

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Get mortar with one shot back then :D

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5on5 was killing fops so this was good thing to change in my opinion. When it was 6on6 you always had one fop but in 5on5 that wasnt maybe the best tactic.

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"fixxed" ? :P

fixxxxxxxxxxxxxxxed

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:))

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still i am more for 5 mines 5 rifle nades.

you already lose one guy since we went to 5v5.

ridiculous arguments at their very best? : D

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nice:)

Quotecommand "forcecvar r_drawfoliage 1"

plz force it on 0 not 1....

it is as it has always been. only radar needs 0

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are you serious?

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hey look the banner says march 2009!

+1

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what did you reply on your journal to meeeee

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thought of it when i was in the garden

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lets do it sometime soon!!!!

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6on6 also!

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bring back arty/nade sounds!

Needs ETPro (actually foxdie said all you need is the .pk3 file and you can make any mod you want, you don't need the source code, they just needed the license)

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ye but foxdie is full of crap anyways

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Hitounds? If that's the case flamer should have them also. :P

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Still get wrong mapscript message. :/

redownload and replace all necessary files (+ delete mapscripts that are on your server but not included in this pack obviously)

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I deleted whole old folder with everything included. Could be issue?

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horrible radar now ...

Is r_wolffog disabled? Because I had to load an old cfg yesterday before the new one to disable it.

WHY WOULD YOU FIX THE TC_BASE MAPSCRIPTHASH?????????????

to make zerender rage about a map he doesn't like?

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http://www.crossfire.nu/?x=news&mode=item&id=5604#comment294148

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so to make zerender rage about maps he does not like?

well anyway, tc_base is not well suited for ET and delivery is utter shit also.

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tc_base was awesome in 6v6 games maaaaaaaaaaaaany years ago :))))))))))

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r_wolffog is enabled on ice etc..
Checked it?

let's make a deal, only one riflenade less !

then the change would of been too minor to actually make a real change.

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because i don't think we needed a change about this

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your class causes more fulls than sufficient in five on fives, which was not such a problem in six on six as loosing one particular player wasn't so meaningful to the team (hadn't such a huge impact on the final game result), but as of now, your class really seems to be quite overpowered.

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we'll see how it goes

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Definitely, although I do not think that the change made to the rifle is right. Changing the game-play - force the rifle to play very offensive - is a bad idea in my opinion. But as already stated above, the best possibility, limiting the recharge time for rifles only is unfortunately not possible.

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+1 FUCKING ONE

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sieg heil!

heillll

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EIN REICH EIN VOLCH EIN FUHRER HEIL LOEKINO

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wieee vergassen die juuws

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Jawolh mein fuhrer

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won't update, tired of updating

updates are important in life

example: if you dont update your hack you will get busted

tomslavm8 ;)

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thanks for reminding :) needs to updat....... server configs... what were u thinking.

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Had 3 more kicks, wasn't about updating at all.. case about setting the etBot config correct. I've read tutorials on nC site before, tested out step by step, uk prefix should be detected per example.. but it isn't.
And so there are more things that are quite dissapointing. No need for the wink btw, as I had reasons for myself to download etBot + didn't play any official after march '09 except for some 1on1's where I didn't feel like testing out cheats even further. And after playing pub + playing random scrims with recommended settings on, I do see now how easy it is for cheaters (the clever ones). Only received a 6 month bann on ESL+CB.. but shouldn't that be 1 year at least then in general?

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1 year if you cheat in officials.

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So all the players in the busted nC lists received a 6 month ban as well? Didn't they get 1 year? The uk prefix in my kick clearly betrays it's an etBot.
Besides, why would a player (randomly selected) pay money to use cheats just for pub servers? In that case he could better get a free ETH and play on non-pb pubs.
According to nC forums many users are still running their bot without proper config settings, PB kicks are the result, also from private servers.
Imo, kicks that follow from paid bots, should result in a ban longer then 6 months because it shows how far they are able to go to be pro in a game.. in the perspective of the most common gamer id: students, low on money etc.
Shouldn't be too much work since etBot and palehook cfg's are spread out long time ago afaik.

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I know, all nC customers should get more than 1 year ban, but it isn't legal to use information obtained from database, since they are illegally hacked, and can't be used as evidence on CB cos techincally an nC customer can sue it.

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Wouldn't publishing it be illegal then as well? And wouldn't CF be illegal for not removing it?
I don't know about the registration and rights of nC as a 'company', but I can hardly imagine any law enforcer would take it serious, regarding the subject.
nC itself probably doesn't even care, since they just want to make money on single strikes, which they are quite clever in.

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ye, i guess it wouldn't be very smart of netCoders to try to sue when they are breaking laws aswell (backdoors for sure, not sure about keyloggers)

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lol

cheater sues clanbase for getting banned because they obtained 'evidence' in an illegal matter.

What has the world come to.

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expect the unexpected, there are some ppl trying to sue PB for banning their cod guid :D

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x)

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Would be cool if:
etpro: r_ati_fsaa_samples CVAR_EQ violation - [1] should be EQ [0]
Valid ATI FSAA samples are 1, 2, 4. Resetting to 1
etpro: r_ati_fsaa_samples CVAR_EQ violation - [1] should be EQ [0]
Valid ATI FSAA samples are 1, 2, 4. Resetting to 1
etpro: r_ati_fsaa_samples CVAR_EQ violation - [1] should be EQ [0]

was fixed for mac / linux users.
Stupid error gives me 43 fps :<

cool, but now you should give me my rnades back please.

attack has been BRUTAL!

and 1 more mine to.
me needz 5 mines specially on supply, radar and gold.

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What the heck dude...

A change is a change, live with it. You won't get all your mines back!

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like you ever manage to get them all down anyway :P

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Always the doubt you lads have i manage to get the 5 mines up on many maps and different stages so YES i can get them all 5 planted.

And they are very handy in radar goldrush and supply.

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So which are 3on3 and which are 5on5 maps?

GJ guys nice to see no one is too stubborn to reverse a mistake, the same couldn't be said in the past, very nice to see.

Indeed.

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hi!

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hi2u2

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THEY HAVENT FIXED MY RIFLE YET!

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MUCH BETTER GUYS :D

no comment ;o

New update out (version 3)

fixed r_wolffog / foliage bugs on nopb configs
Countdown timer reduced from 16 to 10 seconds

why have you reduced the countdown timer? : - )

anyway keep up the good work!

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16 seconds waiting was a bit too long :P doesn't really make a difference

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config_b3 or config_final before i update the servers again :P

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b3, might release something new in some weeks

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everything seems ok now, ill reduce time for pauses too. afraid of new changes though, dont touch rifle more pls you are in the border between ok and total flame.

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explain the countdown time? wat

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aight thanks :D

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keep it 16, perfect for anyone having minimized et :p

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Not sure I like that change, I'm always windowed in warmup. 10 seconds to tab in and for those rare occasions you need to double vid_restart.... not cool.

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get a minimizor you lazy shithead

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idd, sometimes i even miss a bit of time even with coutdown starting :x

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as someone else already said, reduce the time of pauses. like 2 mins per pause instead of 3

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agree with both of your statements (the one here and bellow)

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When will the final update be out?

No idea why you reduced the countdown timer, 15 seconds were perfect.
whats the reason behind this?

lets visit counttown together!

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No idea what you are refering to

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is a synonym for funky town!

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thought same, was perfect always, and not "to long"

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Is it JUST so hard to test them before publishing?
E: 6on6 configs?!

Stop whining retard. And 6on6 is not supported anymore as it has been dropped.

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how hard would it of been for you guys to just sit on a server of yours and test it for a couple of minutes?

They did. Stop whining. A mistake can always happen. A human is bound to make mistakes.

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yeah it looks like it too.

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Ok

version 4 tomorrow ?

why not? if it would make the game-play more enjoyable until there will be released another configuration, which won't happen fast, after this one will reach the final status.

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I dont see how any of these changes "make the game-play more enjoyable".....but ok, apparently you know everything...I'll take your word for it.

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I don't see your point. I won't insult you saying learn reading, but read what I saw and to what I replied and then rethink what you replied to me. Will be quite ridiculous to you : )

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naw, I just dont think any of the changes they made or will be making in a next update will improve the game-play.

People just need to realize its reached a point where there's not that much left to improve, instead of keep pushing changes...not all change it good :)

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You need to realize nothing is perfect and there is always space for new adjustments, improvements and for changes. And that's the point, my point was that if a forth configuration is necessary or could improve the game-play, than why shouldn't it be released? just because some people are to stubborn to adjust to the changes or because some are to lazy to upload the new configuration to their server?

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I got that from your first post..I just dont agree with it, for an old game like ET the options are limited, whether people like it or not...nothing is endless, specially a video game.

I wouldnt mind another update, if it actually did improve something of the game-play..I just dont see it happen.

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Now you're making at least sense. If you're right or nor is however yet unknown. Opinions differ from person to person. Let's see how the whole things develops in the future...

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does this update not include the change to riflenades then?

it does :c

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still only 3 lm at supply

Wtf

waiting for next update :c

need to know when its gonna be final release, before i aint changing nothing on my server.

Can u test this configs before publishing?That sux so much,every day new updates o.O

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