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I expect this to be better than SLAC, but time will tell I guess

how do you expect an anti-cheat that is supporting ~15 games to be better than an anti-cheat which focuses solely on ET?

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15 games? wtf :DD

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QuoteFrom day one ESL Wire Anti-Cheat will support almost all games on ESL.

CB Supports a bit more than 30 games at the moment, so 15 for ESL was my guess, how many games will this anti-cheat support?

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I count 37 shooter in EU section... Make a guess about the rest: http://www.esl.eu/eu/wire/#/eu/

Stop thinking cb > esl in every aspect plz :d

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But it's true lol :D

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looking at the plain number of how many games each plattform supports, it is not - im not discussing anything, just forcing killergirly to put some research over the hate ^_^

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you're not understanding my point. (CB supports 38+ games as well (ladders & cups)....)

my point is:

games like PES/FIFA/NFS/TM don't need an anti-cheat, and even if they do, how do you seriously expect an anti-cheat to be successful if its supporting every single game out there?

That's just too much work, look at PB, they don't support that much games, and thanks to all these games they support, ET gets updated once a year, they don't care about older games.

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stop making yourself look like a SLAC moron.

Every1 knows SLAC is the best thing that happened to ET but guess what, you think it will be ET only in the future? Still this doesn't mean more is bad as many games have pb issues and no alternative, who is helping them? - Your bust avi's?

I just wrote 37 shooters, there are other games where you need an anti cheat... So put research when you write something and there is no big deal about it. In this post you represent CB as a little four year old crying at your big brother's birthday party.

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Quoteyou think it will be ET only in the future?

To be honest, yes. At least it will be ET only on day one, unlike this ESL thing. I mean, of course it's wholly for SpeedLink to decide, but SLAC as in the anti cheat made by Chaplja is very likely to stay ET-only. I just find it hard to imagine Chaplja creating an anticheat for Counter-Strike or something, especially while there already is stuff like EAC for them.

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What about cod4? It's still on pb crap. Aequitas was for one game only as well, that's where the experience comes from for ESL.

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Why would SLAC expand to other games?

Why would Speedlink invest more money to support another game?

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They want to sell it to other games

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Sell a specifically designed for ET anticheat to other games?

Chaplja won't even think about adding other mods than etpro right now to detection, let alone a whole new game...

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That was being told in one of the very first newsposts about SLAC.

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I suppose it wasnt any hate-based comment, he just didnt want to write too big number so he would get flamed "its not 546231 games, just 546230 and thats huge difference!"

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Because WAC is being developed by a whole team and it's supposed to work in ring0, like a driver

And I personally was a supporter of SLAC and I still am, but I still think WAC is the better way to go, especially considering the "trust" issues that many people have with SLAC.

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Isn't PB also developed by whole tam and works like some voodoo magic driver?

Anyway the more anticheats the better.

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not on ring0, also PBs base is like 500 years old :P

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well i am not familiar with tech, but ring0 sounds very serious business

however my point was that should never judge product by amount of people/money that are involved in making of it :P

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True :P

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who said slac isn't ring0 ;)

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I'd be prompted to install a driver then :P

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kind of surprised by your knowledge. well learned chap!

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How can you trust a program like this if you don't even know who is coding it and there is no EULA? For all we know it could be (ex)cheat coders as well or clueless coders who never coded a cheat.

and multi-platform anti-cheat have always failed, just like X-RAY, UAC2, EAC, PB & more.

All these anti-cheat above were sponsored with 1,000,000$ and they couldn't support all those games.

and i seriously doubt their knowledge is better than chaplja, especially if they have never created a cheat.

still waiting for the EULA.

and ESL are going to use SLAC for ET.

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now this is stupid.

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be realistic, how are you going to support 30+ games frequently?

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it's stupid to say "how can you trust ESL" when you look at the cb invites, how dare you say that when not even the guys close to the community are reliable in your organisation. I didn't read on as I have faith in chapjia and think he is doing a great job.

But this intro is just stupid.

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why are you changing what i said?

i never said "how can you trust ESL" i'm just saying that people do not trust slac because it is coded by chaplja, an ex-cheat coder, while with WAC we have no idea who is coding it, so the trust issues remain.

whats wrong with the invites? just because there are 3 more polish teams than german? has it ever come to your mind that all other germans teams are not good enough? and wtf do invites have to do with esl anti-cheat?

why do you always have to deviate my answers or deviate from my questions...

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slightly offtopic but EUROcup used to be about teams from lots of different countries - I think that was even mentioned in the rules. Like even if Team A from country A was better than Team B from country B, if country A had too many participants already then Team B would be invited instead. Thats how I got my first EC invite at least :P

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times have changed and almost 90% of the teams are european mixes and unfortunately nowadays there are only a handful of decent teams that have members coming from the same country, with ET it's almost impossible to do imo, though at CB EC, cod2 & cod4 still use this method since they still have a large userbase/teams.

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ESL is a large (by eSports standard - 150 employees) German (has very good privacy laws) company (we have to follow the law or else it's very expensive for us)

Speedlink are also an established German company, but who do you think is more likely to have to defend themselves legally, and have to take more care about it's employees and what they do?

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agree

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Team Speedlink isn't a company.

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He didn't say that...

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He said chapjla is a employee of Speedlink...

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Read my response below.

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http://www.speedlink.com/?p=4&s=1
looks like it to me

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Speedlink <> Team Speedlink

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according to their EPS license, they belong to a registered company (GmbH)

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im not even certain the real speedlink company knows about this "et team" and what is going on here :)

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CONSPIRACY

DONT TRUST ANYONE

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Of course they know what's going on, they just moved their "power" to the head manager which is handling the business for them, easy as that.

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:D?

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whats wrong? he got a point.

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where?

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you are using this newspost to go on stage with your slac support. But this is the wrong place and the wrong time - same goes for the EC invites, where as I never said anything about german teams. You were implying ESL is not a company you can trust and you don't even think there are programmers outside as good or better (I cannot rate chapija and I wont) than someone you or me know.

This is why your comments are stupid in here and that's why I went offtopic as well to show you how retarded this is.

Be happy there are people outside who still dare to try to offer any AC tool, eventhough many failed it doesn't mean things can get worse. And yes, it's from ESL, not from CB.

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can i have your babies?

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better have your daily dose of anti-depression pills.

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you most likely have to rape me at the next cc edition like wesbo did, otherwise there is no can do, im sorry :(

how are u btw? :d

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I am just guessing because I am not qualified enough to judge the technical aspects, but if you operate on ring0, you don't have to specialize on the cheat itself to detect it. You can just check for programs interacting with whatever game EXE you have and deny it (my guess)

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wrong guess :-p

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feel free to enlighten us then

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well yeah sorry you are right, but you are wrong about the driver thingy afaik

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wtf is wrong with you?:D

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Well reading the above replies it gives the impression that it would go through drivers to detect anything hooked to et.exe and related data. Having such a system would cause oh so much trouble and would be simply moronic, but then again it is for a large number of games and unexpected things can happen...

Wouldn't be bad to have more information about the AC and the creator of it either.

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http://www.esl.eu/de/player/320587/

main programmer of the first AC version.

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about the creator(s) i can tell you that it is developed by a team consisting of 12 programmers. most of them have lots of experience with anticheatsoftware from their work for the esl and especially for this tool turtle entertainment hired another guy, who worked for a large antivirusprogram before, so he has a lot of experience.

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thx, but imho it has to be a lot more detailed than that. Newcommers = high risk. :-p

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not sure i actually got your post, BUT having a signed driver by MS is the only way to "perfectly" prevent injection into a process or altering memory. there will always be a way to break into higher level systems.

NB: this does not mean my suggested system can fail, ive just not yet come around any cases where this failed. Also, youd have to sign the driver for each new version, which is why no one actually does it. Its just too expansive :)

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well with troubles I didn't really mean fails/undetects, I was more thinking about ppl using haxes for movies or other false positives, or would it work the same way like slac does?

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the driver is only active when you start the game using ESL wire

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QuoteHow can you trust a program like this if you don't even know who is coding it and there is no EULA? For all we know it could be (ex)cheat coders as well or clueless coders who never coded a cheat.

There is a company behind it so they are more restricted by the law than any 17 years old hobby programmer .

Quoteand multi-platform anti-cheat have always failed, just like X-RAY, UAC2, EAC, PB & more.

No AC is unbeatable neither SLAC nor WAC.

QuoteAll these anti-cheat above were sponsored with 1,000,000$ and they couldn't support all those games.

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Quoteand i seriously doubt their knowledge is better than chaplja, especially if they have never created a cheat.

What? Seriously...thats bullshit. You don't even know who is working for a company that is addicted to a working (cheater free) league to code a AC and yet you said a student is better than any other ?

Quotestill waiting for the EULA.

And then? Nobody can say that chaplja is a scammer (or ESL collects informations and so on).

Quoteand ESL are going to use SLAC for ET.

We will see.

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SLAC is owned by a company too, SPEEDLINK, so there is a company "behind this 17 year old hobby programmer" :)

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As far as I know Team Speedlink is "behind this 17 year old hobby programmer" not the company Speedlink.

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Team Speedlink and the Company Speedlink are closely connected to each other (What a surprise). And its known that Team Speedlink's manager's will to support ET and its community is the main reason for the development of a new anti cheat tool. De jure Speedlink (the company) is behind it, tho.

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If team speedlink is breaking the law the company speedlink has nothing to to with this. so the only connection is that team speedlink is sponsored by speedlink.

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The company is behind it. SPEEDLINK|Rene only made it possible.

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still he got a point

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At least his last reply is wrong, afaik.

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dont think so, its pretty much how I see it

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How do you see it then? ;D

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that the Speedlink company is not responsible for what Team Speedlink does which they only sponsor. Especially if they "would" break a law and "would" get sued e.g.

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And you know that as a fact?

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no, but do you know the opposite? :) so he has a point :p

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I believe to know the opposite, yes. Although a short comment from the SL side could solve all that trouble.

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its not speedlink being behind some 17 year old bot seller, its an ET team supposingly supported by speedlink

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How do you know who works for ESL AntiCheat? Maybe 21 yo known in his free time as panzershmuck is CEO there. This ex-cheatercoder bullshit is just bullshit.

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ex coder? Im quite certain he still sells his quakelive bots :)

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not, he even sent the source code to evenbalance.

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btw, i won 1 million peanuts yesterday.

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gief

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We should give a medal to him now.

The argument that he is a cheat coder is bullshit, thats right but he isn't a trustworthy person.

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who is?

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what do you mean?

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Me.

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you are wrong :)

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punkbuster?

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everyone knows PB is crap, i bet WAC will be 100 times better :)

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PB was good when ET came out but it's outdated now.
I don't see why the support for multiple games will kill this anti-cheat. As long as it's updated sufficiently it will not make any difference.

It would only make a difference when you're implying that one person will keep this anti-cheat up-to-date as will one person @ SLAC.

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Well my point about this anti-cheat was only for ET, people got me wrong, this is good for other games except for ET, since ET has SLAC and it's dedicated for ET only atm, so SLAC is dedicating all their time on ET, unlike WAC which has to support all of those games.

Also WAC works just like SLAC, so another problem would be that WAC wouldn't work alongside SLAC.

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Why would you use SLAC and WAC at the same time? oO

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makes it harder for cheat coders to release cheats working on both SLAC & WAC!

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':D'

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Quote by KillerboyAlso WAC works just like SLAC

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didn't mean it like that, WAC detects cheat files/configs according to the EULA, SLAC doesn't do that.

I meant WAC needs to be loaded just like SLAC, it doesn't run like pbnkstrA/B

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Ok, let us stop filling eachothers inbox. Gonna have dinner.

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So basically it scans like the prehistoric PB?

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seems so, and prolly it scans memory as well

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I dont see the problem for when there's one person working on SLAC(Supporting one game) and for example 10 people working on WAC (1 for every game and 2 project leaders).

This is just an example but the thing is, in your argument you're implying that ET would not get as much dedication in WAC as it does get in SLAC. How can you be so sure?

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because it has happened to PB, X-RAY & UAC2.

PB stopped supporting ET in the past 2 years, and before that they never really dedected any private cheat for more than a few days.

X-RAY supported ET for a week? never got updated again

UAC2 supported ET once, and after that nothing again, its bugged so much that it detects everyone as a cheater once you run et.exe

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Because the dedication to ET for those programs sucked WAC will be no good either?
You are very negative, sir.

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:(

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chalpja

you mad cos clanbase is poor

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"almost all games"
"No ET"

QuoteThe limitation to the following games only applies to the Open Beta

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Is last sentence made to understand that Wire works for ET too?

It's supposed to work with (nearly) all games that ESL host

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I can read that but it wont confirm anything

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I would take that as a NO it does not support ET, could be a language barrier though, it is not written very clearly at all.

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I take it as a: IT MIGHT SOME DAY MAYBE WITH A BIT LUCK BE SUPPORTED

But I might be wrong.

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Funny. At the end you need two anti-cheat programs (Wire & SLAC) to play in different leagues.

If this will advance and work better than SLAC ESL will be the biggest platform for ET.

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I tried to search for the EULA on ESL site but couldn't find it in the page you linked, so i downloaded it, but when i run the installer.exe i cannot find any EULA, it just forces me to install it without any user agreement.

Link plx.

if you go through the installation windows you'll find the regular agreements also including the EULA obviously!

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first it tells me to install, then after the installation it will show me the eula? :(

can't someone just copy paste it lol, there was a eula some months ago of ESL Wire 0.1 but google isn't finding

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as soon as you downloaded the installer and open it the first 3 pages are all about agreeing to license stuff and also the EULA. There really is nothign you could oversee as you have to do the usual "I accept XYZ".

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ah okey found it, it was asking me to download the components first then it will show you the eula and install :)

for anyone who cares/wants it: http://pastebin.ca/1946579

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pls no we have slac now -.-

and what wond3r sayed ..

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WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE, 2 anticheat means moar expensive hax... i have to learn cheatcoding :)

what is this?

-_-

Good luck with this tbh

for years ppl were complaining about having no real AC. and now, when chaplja finaly made SOMETHING, suddenly ESL announce smth new. this smells like CB vs ESL fight. its cool to have more AC's tho

SLAC is not of ClanBase, it's of Speedlink so if there was a fight, it would be ESL vs SL.

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ESL - SL. One letter more for ESL. ESL wins 8D

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h3h3

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grandis! MDR

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I know idd, but CB fully supports SLAC, ESL doesnt.
"If they got that toy, we will have our ones and it will be sooo bettah"

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Except that it doesn't support ET yet so it's kinda pointless atm ?

By the time it does support ET (or maybe it never will) linux SLAC and server addon will be ready me thinks...

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WAC supports ET (and pretty much every non-browser game), the ET admins are testing it, it just hasn't been included in the public open beta :)

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Hence why I said it doesn't support ET yet.

Perhaps it's due to the language gap, but when I mean support I mean that people are actually able to use it, since only ET admins can use it atm it doesn't seem to be part of this open beta as you said...Therefore, this open beta does not support ET.

At any rate, I would be secretly more happy if it didn't support ET since it would be annoying having to switch between AC's simply to play in a different league...

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Take a close look into the German Laws before talking shit like that...

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german laws? wtf r u talking about

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ur doing it so wrong :(

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what?! tell me what is this about,lol

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We have had our own anticheat for 4+ years, and the goal has always been to support all games on ESL (that it makes sense for). There have been several announcements for the past few months about the upcoming anticheat, SLAC's release is purely coincidental

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announcements? didnt see anything on cf :)

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until WAC was closer to being ready, and ready to support ET (the admins are testing it now), there was no real need for an announcement. I guess it may not have even crossed the minds of the ET staff until I talked to them about it a few days ago :)

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You have to be trolling :P

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I just find it hilarous that (atleast for me) this suddenly appeared right after SLAC :P

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No offense but ET is not even slightly influential enough to force a company like TE to make its own anticheat in reply to another one.
This project started like 9 months ago and has supposedly cost more than 500.000€ overall (according to a recent interview), I'd be surprised if any of the ESL staff (besides the ET guys obviously) even know that SLAC exists.

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Aequtitas is more than 4 years old. The aim was to support nearly all games since it started for just a hand full games. Its nothing that was "rapidly coded" to compete with SLAC.

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QuoteI guess it may not have even crossed the minds of the ET staff until I talked to them about it a few days ago

therogue, few comments above.

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And? Only beacuse some ET admins (some guy with too much free time) didn't even know that there is WAC doesn't mean that it isn't in the development since years.

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I dont get your point

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QuoteI just find it hilarous that (atleast for me) this suddenly appeared right after SLAC :P

I ignored the "atleast for me", sorry. I meant that WAC was there (in development) before pb dropped the support for ET.
But yeah a concurrence that WAC has been announced right after SLAC in crossfire.

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You're trying to argue where there is no arguing needed or possible.

He never said that WAC never existed or that it wasn't in development, he just found it funny that it got announced rather closely after the announcements of SLAC.

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nice , looks much better than trojanslac :)

I think the people saying "OMG this is an attack on SLAC" are missing the point a bit. From what I read, ESL isn't implementing this new anti-cheat just to compete with SLAC, but to provide a decent anti-cheat across ALL their games. I'm guessing ET just got lumped in with all the other games they support.

Yes, it means three different anti-cheats for ET (if you include PB), but it makes sense for ESL as an organization in that they only have to support one across their entire league – it's easier to manage bugs/support across one program than two.

Does it make sense for ET? Debatable. Does it make sense for ESL as an organization? I'd say yes, overall.

You're very clever.

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One problem is, that the ESL don't ban people that were caught with AC that are not used within the ESL (link x-ray, red-eye and so on). (yeah I know the ET admins are an exception)

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When we have access to enough information to positively link the busts, we do (GGC, PSB, PBBans, etc)

Unlike other leagues, we have a much greater responsibility to take care who is banned for cheating. I've never heard of anyone taking CB to court over being banned for cheating - we have been

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there were several cases with css cheater that were busted with red-eye and x-ray. the ESL didn't ban them beacuase "they don't ban for other AC tools". PB is only accepted beacuase its the only AC for PB (+ SLAC since some weeks).

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we accept bans from many banlists in different games, if the banlist provides us with enough data to reasonably positively link the player to the catch (date, time, ip)

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Serious business!

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Quotealmost all games

where does it actually say thats its going to be used for ET ?

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http://www.googlefight.com/index.php?lang=en_GB&word1=ESL+Wire+Anti-Cheat&word2=SLAC

http://www.googlefight.com/index.php?lang=en_GB&word1=ESL+Anti-Cheat&word2=Speedlink+Anti-Cheat

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http://www.googlefight.com/index.php?lang=en_GB&word1=ESL+Anti-Cheat&word2=Speed-Link+Anti-Cheat

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http://sl-anticheat.com/ page title beats u :)

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http://www.googlefight.com/index.php?lang=en_GB&word1=ESL+Wire+Anti-Cheat&word2=SLAC+Anti-Cheat

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speed link anti cheat anti cheat? :P

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http://www.googlefight.com/index.php?lang=en_GB&word1=ESL+Anti-Cheat&word2=SLAC+trojan

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Nice
Keep this thing going!

i support this!

not gonna use it... program made by some random ppl, without any check by other coder...

i bet its some trojan or logger...

Expected reply from a polish.

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this is why ESL don't like the CB Qualifiers :'(

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no ESL admin has mentioned bigger complaints about your qualifiers. Only if you count all kinds of germans on CF as ESL admins ;)

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chosen!

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not an admin and that for years

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shut up

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I don't need to check your flag to see that you're polish.

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shut up

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I don't need to check your flag to see that you're polish...

Oh wait!

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:)))))

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I don't need to check your flag to see you're stupid.

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Says a polish.

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:))) Just proving my point.

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got nothing against SLAC, i just wont use anticheat coded by some randoms who just want to steal my money

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Quotegot nothing against SLAC, i just wont use anticheat coded by some randoms who just want to steal my money

ESL AC coders -> randoms?

Quoteps. my opionion about ur intellectual abilities will be based on ur anwser... so dont make blind guesses

i don't need ur opinion about anything
and i mean it

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yes, ur not the sharpets knife for sure

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are u dumb?

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u tell me...

ps. my opionion about ur intellectual abilities will be based on ur anwser... so dont make blind guesses

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nice !

here it goes!

I hope this kicks cheaters out of the server and get banned from the game. Everyone can bust ppl again and not only Killerboy with a list :-D

Not like SLAC getting busted later and not given any kind of information what he used. It's a smart choice, but stupid somehow.

Are you mad perhaps??

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why u mad tho?

kom 5on5

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muis brokko, mic brokko

gaat um niet worden ;p

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How can it be stupid if it's smart...?

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i c what u did there

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WNB SLAC

ESL Wire was made long before SLAC.

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bibuy slac

they played oc premier like 3 times 2005-06 with one EC between. they should've played another but got into shit quali against #stfu? while some lowbie clans got to face each others

and those qualis they got had nothing them with beeing UK or so, they totally deserved to be in (and shouldve been in in the 2nd time aswell with proper quali)

+ they got more pocals during those years than u ever will :)

kamz on a SoF spree D:

I guess its good, two different anti cheats are better than one in busting hackers.

+1 vAtu
WNB SLAC

im a huge supporter of this idea, league creating its own ac is just a better idea overall. Its in their interest to make it up to date aswell.

and i also love kb raging and acting childish :D

i'm not allowed to ask stuff or have an opinion about this anti-cheat?

the anti-cheat is good for all the game it will support, since anything is better than PB, but is it really needed for ET? I doubt it, and this is what i'm trying to point out.

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You are allowed to have your opinion and (drums) even tell us about it! The way you do it though is way inappropriate for a person with your status. You turn that into a CB vs ESL topic where it has, to put it simply, nothing to do with ClanBase.

You've become way more arrogant in your post than you should be (whether you think that or not). You were the one who took catching cheater to another level and now it seems like you focus mainly on writing anti-esl comments on crossfire. You should be setting a good example of how players should act and yet you managed to turn into a flamer. You were way nicer in the past eh :/

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Would easily trust multigame anticheat provided by ESL. Compared to trusting SLAC coded by bedroom coder whoes intentions are as transparant as a brick wall..

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This.

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I don't know why, but this comment really made my day :)

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nonononno slac is better because maltanian nerd can create the list : D
EDIT : with super trustworthy chaplia

:P

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Eventually one will be favoured by the community anyway
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What is ESL thinking? I mean, it's good that they're releasing an anti-cheat. But for games that already have anti-cheat solutions that work like charm? Take CS 1.6 for example. EasyAntiCheat is the one thing they use in CS officials. There's nothing wrong with EAC and as far as I know no currently working cheats. So why would ESL venture into that territory? Seems a bit peculiar to me, that's all.

what? ESL is using Aequitas for CS, CSS and so on. WAC is only the "second version".

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So they've been using it for a while? I must have misunderstood it, then.

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First there was Aequtias (AC for CS 1.6 and CSS and after some month for a handful games), then ESL wire was announced as some messenger like xfire (for game/match/gather finding and so on), after that Aequitas 2 was announced and now Wire contains a anti cheat (Aequitas 2).

Thats how I know the story.

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oki thanks for the info :)

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almost correct, just Aequitas 2 development was stopped and Wire AC was developed totally independent of that first edition of aeq. It has aequitas support in it's current stable version though. :)

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yes for very long :)

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Well what killerboy said make a little sense SLAC focus on one game so it put its full effort to that one game while ESL maybe puts ET on the bottom of there to do list.

The difference is ESL is an organisation that you can complain to if they fuck up your PC using theire tool SLAC sadly is a on you own risk tool.

Nevertheless I apriciate the work SLAC is doing but there are still points they need to work on.

+ the program runs now (Not fully but at least it got farther then the anti pro story)
+ Screenshots stand on the site so they are thinking about that option to (can only cheer for it as server admin)

- We need a SLAC mod that only allows ppl running SLAC to connect to the server
No SLAC = Not getting on the server.
So we can replace ET Pro with the SLAC mod and then move on back on track with mod versions etc. (exmpl fixed X Y coördinates to 0 so you get rid of the rifle scripts)

- kick a player by slac number (Kinda like PB_Plist and then PB_Kick or some other version or so) reason for this was a cheater was on the SLAC pub server name swapping every time so downside is you cant kick him on his unique SLAC id with pb you could have kicked him out or he got kicked out for duplicated name now there is hardly a kicking methode unless i am wrong then someone might inform me on it.

But personally give me a AC program runned by an organisation.
Like PB was cause they fucked up your pc by some kind of means then you can complain them and if they really did some crime to you you can send them to court.
With SLAC we cant.

So lets see who wins the race of the AC competiton ESL or SLAC?

It's not a competition. ESL develops Anti-Cheats to be used only on ESL, not for public servers/ random wars, like SLAC. The ESL AC will be used only for ESL offis and gathers.

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Quote
- We need a SLAC mod that only allows ppl running SLAC to connect to the server
No SLAC = Not getting on the server.
So we can replace ET Pro with the SLAC mod and then move on back on track with mod versions etc. (exmpl fixed X Y coördinates to 0 so you get rid of the rifle scripts)

- kick a player by slac number (Kinda like PB_Plist and then PB_Kick or some other version or so) reason for this was a cheater was on the SLAC pub server name swapping every time so downside is you cant kick him on his unique SLAC id with pb you could have kicked him out or he got kicked out for duplicated name now there is hardly a kicking methode unless i am wrong then someone might inform me on it.

all these will be released as soon as the server side addon is released

you can also do anything you want with ex-cheaters and cheaters busted on SLAC, as a server admin you can ban the for 12months to 9999months (Permanent ban).

Cheaters busted on slac will get auto-kicked as well, if they make a new account they get a perma ban.

Parent

for the kicking thing: /cheaters, /votekick playernumber

Parent

Make this SLAC SHIT server side... easiest thing to do.

pls... don't tell me that now that we have an specific anticheat for ET ESL is going to use its own, jesus christ.

Are we gonna have to play with SLAC in CB matches and another anticheat in ESL matches?

Thats how it is in nearly every league. ET was special since there was no AC software.

Parent

ermmm... so what was punkbuster? wasnt that an AC software used in both ESL and Clanbase?

Parent

Punkbuster was called a program that used to catch cheaters back in the ancient history (2000y B.C)

Parent

PB is an AC that is a part of the game "itself". It was used, yes. But PB is like VAC(2) (Steam AC).
The standard AC software is not deactivated in leagues but everyone knows that they are shit. So leagues are using their own AC tools.
For ET there wasn't such tool thats why the only AC that was used was PB.

Its exactly the same with CSS.

ESL -> VAC2 + Aequitas
Enemydown -> VAC2 + X-Ray

and so on.

Parent

even during pb it was already like that remember the game violation and pbbans streaming?

Parent

great stuff, love it.

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