#ET Draft Tournament
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24 Jan 2013, 11:39
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News
Last week, we saw the launch of the #ET IRC channel - a place for the community to gather together to not only maintain but also build on the current activity level of our favourite game. It's great to see so much interest, approval, contribution, and overall involvement from so many people in the community as well as the contact that has been made with communities outside of Crossfire.nu. Peaking at 220 idlers in only a few days, #ET has shown us that there are still enough active players remaining to try running some cups which have been requested by our community.
So without further ado, we are proud to present the first edition of the 6on6 #ET Draft Tournament! Now, you may be thinking: "Oh, this is just another cup for friends only or top players only..." If you are thinking that, however, you are WRONG! This tournament will feature open signups, meaning that any and all players are welcome to sign up to participate. We plan to prepare a few pools of players organized by class and skill level, and captains will only be able to choose 1 or 2 players from each pool. (It's hard to explain right now, since we haven't actually created the pools yet and will of course wait for signups to end to do so.)
The tournament will take place in the form of a one-day cup on this Sunday - 27/01/2013. The first games should start around 18:00 CET. Now, let's meet the admin crew and the captains!
Admins / Support: Captains:Now that you're aware of who is in charge of the event and who will be leading the teams, we can start discussing signups. As stated above, anyone can sign up to the cup but it's up to the captains whether or not you are chosen to participate as a player (All can participate as spectators!).
To sign up for the #ET Draft Tournament, send a Private Message on Crossfire to
lewcins or /query him (lewcins) on IRC with the following information:
To help lessen the chance of dropouts occurring, you must confirm your signup before Sunday 27/01/2013 at 14:00 CET! This so-called "check-in" phase starts at 19:00 CET on Saturday 26/01/2013. In order to confirm your availability to participate in the cup, send a PM to fanatic or lewcins here on Crossfire or on IRC at #ET.
Why are we forcing players to check-in? We intend to work on the pools from 14:00 - 16:00 on Sunday, so we have to be certain that all players who signed up will be 100% available to play. If you fail to confirm your signup, you will be removed from the list of players. Also, please note that checking-in but not showing up will result in a ban from all further #ET tournaments.
The draft will take place on #ET around 16:00 CET.
Schedule:
Additional information:
#ET
So without further ado, we are proud to present the first edition of the 6on6 #ET Draft Tournament! Now, you may be thinking: "Oh, this is just another cup for friends only or top players only..." If you are thinking that, however, you are WRONG! This tournament will feature open signups, meaning that any and all players are welcome to sign up to participate. We plan to prepare a few pools of players organized by class and skill level, and captains will only be able to choose 1 or 2 players from each pool. (It's hard to explain right now, since we haven't actually created the pools yet and will of course wait for signups to end to do so.)
The tournament will take place in the form of a one-day cup on this Sunday - 27/01/2013. The first games should start around 18:00 CET. Now, let's meet the admin crew and the captains!
Admins / Support: Captains:Now that you're aware of who is in charge of the event and who will be leading the teams, we can start discussing signups. As stated above, anyone can sign up to the cup but it's up to the captains whether or not you are chosen to participate as a player (All can participate as spectators!).
To sign up for the #ET Draft Tournament, send a Private Message on Crossfire to
lewcins or /query him (lewcins) on IRC with the following information: - Your nickname
- Your nation
- Your preferred class (engi smg, fops, reviving medic, etc. - Keep in mind that the captains will most likely play rifle for their teams.)
- Your skill level (low+, med, med+, etc. - Please be honest! This will help us make decent pools.)
- Your ClanBase account (http://clanbase.ggl.com/humaninfo.php?hid=xxxxx - Make sure your TZAC GUID is registered.)
- One map that you'd like to see in the maplist (besides the 4 maps listed below)
To help lessen the chance of dropouts occurring, you must confirm your signup before Sunday 27/01/2013 at 14:00 CET! This so-called "check-in" phase starts at 19:00 CET on Saturday 26/01/2013. In order to confirm your availability to participate in the cup, send a PM to fanatic or lewcins here on Crossfire or on IRC at #ET.
Why are we forcing players to check-in? We intend to work on the pools from 14:00 - 16:00 on Sunday, so we have to be certain that all players who signed up will be 100% available to play. If you fail to confirm your signup, you will be removed from the list of players. Also, please note that checking-in but not showing up will result in a ban from all further #ET tournaments.
The draft will take place on #ET around 16:00 CET.
Schedule:
- SIGNUPS:
- Starts: NOW
- Ends: Sunday 27/01/2013 at 12:00 CET
- Starts: NOW
- CHECK-IN:
- Starts: Saturday 26/01/2013 at 19:00 CET
- Ends: Sunday 27/01/2013 at 14:00 CET
- Starts: Saturday 26/01/2013 at 19:00 CET
- POOLS CREATED: Sunday 27/01/2013 from 14:00 - 16:00 CET
- PLAYERS SELECTED (DRAFT): Sunday 27/01/2013 at 16:00 CET
- BRACKETS ANNOUNCED: Sunday 27/01/2013 at 17:00 CET
- CUP STARTS: Sunday 27/01/2013 at 18:00 CET
- CUP ENDS: Sunday 27/01/2013 around 24:00 CET
Additional information:
- Cup formula:
- Format: 6on6
- Everyone must use TZAC.
- There will be 2 groups, with 4 teams in each group.
- The Groupstage will consist 3 rounds.
- The Playoffs will be single-elimination style (including Semi-finals + Grand Final & Bronze Final)
- All matches are BO3 (best-of-three).
- Each match will be broadcasted on GamesTV.
- This is a ONE-DAY CUP!
- Format: 6on6
- Maplist:
- adlernest
- radar
- supply
- sw_goldrush_te
- + the 2 maps you choose!
- adlernest
- Shoutcaster(s):
- If you are able and willing to cast or even stream matches (in English) for this tournament, please let us know!
- TeamSpeak 3:
- We're currently also looking for someone who is able and willing to host a 100-slot TeamSpeak 3 server for an indefinite period of time. It would be used for all teams participating in this event then converted afterwards into the #ET TS3 Public Server.
#ET
P.S. What is the difference between ClanBase ID and HID?
and the difference is that you have many ID numbers on your CB account, in each clan you have a different one. And HID is unique for every user.
oww man
Did you read the post?
Which means that the captains will take those 2 friends from the pool, and go on to the next one and pick 2 friends. Which might happend if the friends gets split up in different pools, or am i wrong?
Les capitaines vont d'office prendre les mecs ayant du niveau et si possible les potos.
besides this cup is different anyway, hell of a lot less highskillers and teams gotta include low/med/high skill players equally so nobody can whine about "friends only" blabla this time.
They might not necessarily have played with the captain but would most certainly "know" who the captain is such as experience, capabilities, contacts etc.
I still think there lays a clear point in this "captain-decision-picking-strategy" issue so it can't be completely untrue. Perhaps only partially if we can include matters such as ping and players outside Europe that wish to play. But with my guess, and I'm not saying or I don't know if this has happened before, that the captains ignore those type of players because the ping might bring a negative impact on the game and/or team. Anyway that ping matter was a little bit off topic.
It can also be that the captain tends to filter those that are "weak" such as for example the importance in aiming but at the same time forgets what can be more beneficial in the objective run such as covering up and assisting your allies.
I am glad to have been in this situation and with the belief of former Sleeperz captain xcN_ I would have most likely not been the player I am today.
I mentioned that the captain will tend to pick someone which I mean by 1-2 players (this is not including everyone in the line-up :) ) . My point is that the captains tend to pick those that are "close-to-hand", who they know more or less about and what they are capable of doing. Those who have simply been under the ET spotlight for quite a while and not necessarily experimenting with possible "talents" like they do in football or any other group sports.
Any-bleh-how I just wanted to get this off my chest since this is what I have been seeing from my time with ET in general tournaments not necessarily Draft Cups. Since this is just a Draft Cup we are still getting a lot of fairness into in to it though.
Maybe even a better solution is to simply have the signed up members from each skill level category randomly placed into selected line-ups. It can't be more equally fair than that.
would provoke way too much whine. I think we've answered the cries from the community enough by forcing captains to select players from each skill-poule.. you can be sure there will be some experementing going on, I noticed some examples of that @ signup list already. some quite skilled players but may not be recognised until chosen on sunday :)
These draft tournaments are one day lasting tournaments and there is no time for preparation so obviously those captains who want to succeed in the tournament will pick players whose capabilities they're already aware of. Smart captains will not only go for the good aimers, but will select a balanced team with all the necessary player types.
I can understand the argument against the "friends only" teams though as most captains tend to pick players who they've already played with before someone who by public opinion is equally skilled. The reason for that obviously is that once they've played together captains know their playing style even better, know how good comms they give and other important things that are hard to notice by just spectating.
But since these draft tournaments shouldn't be such serious tournaments it is indeed good to randomize the teams somehow. Personally I think that the system of using different player pools defined by skill level is a great idea and gives the chance for everyone to participate and play in the tournament. Still it should give equal teams to allow entertaining games. Perhaps some limitation like max players per country could also be implemented, but I think that a total randomization would too often result in uneven teams if all the players are only put into 3 or so pools.
It's good that we talk about this. I usually tend to refer back to these kind of topics for an optimal solution. Thanks for sharing your thoughts.
in some specific cases like yours we might violate the rules a bit, on your own responsibility :p
he hasnt got the experience, dont get me wrong but as i know he was a player for bsturz and not the captain
im not saying hes a bad player, he is a good player
compare sinnu and specula :
sinnu is more likley to "teach" some stuff about the game to the lower class players
wich was always the point of the draft?
anyway, i signed up so call me maybe
but sinnu & others r playing on the high level for ages. specula just recently got to that "level"
and afaik specula is inactive
it doesnt bother or upset me in anyway, but if thers any chance of this cup being a cup admins want it to be
then the lower skilled players would get way more from a player with tons of experience over a werry capable player such as specula.
the whole NC is full of inactive peeps and thats ok?
it doesnt matter when Specula got this Level and i thought is about fun... yeah maybe im wrong :/
im favoring ross in this case since he from what i heard is a grate captain
not everyone can be a good captain thats why i doubt choosing specula is a good choice
but nevertheless i wish the cup big success and specula lots of luck
let me once again repeat, specula is an amazing player when it comes to playing rifle
so is ross and so are you.
BAT this is what i said in my prev comments
specula is somewhat of an uprising player and he is discovering alot of stuff on his own aswell. where the likes of Ross,Night,sqzz knows this kinda things for ages, thats why i think player of a higher class then specula should be "coaching" lower league/class players aka be the captian of a draft team.
obv specula is ur friend and u think its somekind of a flame text towards him? as i said in the beginning of my post. i said specula is a good player, eventho i disslike his attitude towards me for an unknown reason, if ur good ur good period.
latz say smgs are the captains in that case i get picked
where i already have plenty of experience in coaching and in leading ingame also a good captian, wich would make me perfect on paper, but i never lead a team on a highlevel so that is pointless. same case as specula, but i cba to defend my own opinion, specula is a good player but with no offenco to him there should be atleast a few rifle captians who should contribute towards the community itself, with that being said, i wish you a goodevening goodnight and good day sir.
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but ye we gona see how it works and I was alos in the last draft tournament a captain
Oh joy!
Oeeeeeeh!
I hope Fruits-Apricot also signed up
Hope it won't be a "I pick up high skilled players and friends only".
Though I can't make it before 20.00 on Sunday so I won't sign up anyway. Gl!
anyway I decided to sign up so we'll see how it goes!
Like oxy said strong aimers are far more common than smart engies.
I wish I didn't have plans already for Sunday.
gl tho :)
I have a teamspeak server that is currently set on 250 slots, i can raise it up to 512.
Address: teamspeak.no1gaming.eu
Users can create their own channel with admin rights on our webpage:
Address: http://www.no1gaming.eu/freeteamspeak
Regards,
Poseidon
GL anyway, I'll play if I get ET on my new pc!
e: different tournament, my bed :D
well it was 7am!
Just to be fair, after captains pick their teams, you can let each captain deny a pick from 1 of the opposite teams and that player goes back to the pool of players . After captains deny 1 player from every team, they can start picking from the appropriate pools again without being able to pick the player that was previously denied from their team. So, each captain gets to deny 1 player off 1 of the other teams. Since you have 8 captains, they get to deny exactly 1 player from 1 of the enemy teams. The player that gets denied can be repicked by one of the other captains of course.
But with this attitude from 1 of the admins: "dafuq did I just read" I doubt anything will be fixed.
Fact is, people will always prefer friends over "randoms" simply because they know what said friend is capable of and how he behaves in crucial situations, the playstyle is known to you and you know for a certainty he's reliable. Why would anyone want to pick someone that, is rumored, to be of the same skill but he simply can't rely on him at all? You don't know what he plays like, you don't know what positions he favors, you don't know if and what his comms are like or how he'll fit into the line-up you've just created, those are all unknown factors, captains will want to be in control of their team, that's the whole point of being a captain and putting together your best, possible, line-up. Otherwise the whole point of a draft cup would be moot. There would be no fun playing/participating it in nor watching it if you force a captain plus 5 completely random, unreliable and unknown players into a team, it'd be one sided and pointless. Spectating random Division 5 games or playing public at this point would be more thrilling than that.
So why is koop there?