6on6 NationsCup 2014 #LIKEABOSS : Announced
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24 Mar 2014, 16:30
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News
I'm pleased to announce the 6on6 NationsCup 2014 hosted by LIKE A BOSS.
6on6 NationsCup 2014
Format: 6on6
Admins: Foreigner & ChilAx
Maplist:
• adlernest
• bremen_b3
• frostbite
• radar
• supply
• sw_goldrush_te
When will this begin?
Schedules:
Captain applications open: Monday, March 24th Apply here
Captain applications closed: Wednesday, April 2nd
Captain announcements: Friday, April 4th
Lineups finalised: Sunday, April 20th
Brackets published: Monday, April 21th
Start 1st Matchweek: Monday, April 28th
Who will be the Captain?
• Captains will be decided by the cup admins after an application process.
• Captains MUST be dependable and proactive in scheduling their matches and organizing their teams. Please do not apply if you will not meet all responsibilities of being a captain.
• For who's interested to apply for being captain, you can do it here. And make sure you contact us @ CF after you applied!
• To play or captain a nation, you must be from it or living in it.
Although rules will be announced later, you can expect them to closely model the CG ET Season 1 rules.
This cup will be run through CG & CGAC will be used
Admins & a few others will discus for the seedings
Contact us @ CF:
ChilAx
Foreigner
skilled germans :D:D
Also captains should be selected by voting.
isnt there a way to do this in cybergamer? ;/
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They could create a poll or something there, but not sure if that is possible. :/
Also GL finding someone (not or least) retarded from Poland :D
Ye i know, i'm prepared for those shit loads. But you have to know that we'll not decide on that part. I'll not favor someone!
That's your opinion
& it's: Hosted by LIKE A BOSS :)
And votings are unfair anyway.
1. Our good friend unforgiven had a bit of a personal vendetta against Stary (who ended up as captain) and therefore created multiple fake accounts to vote for everyone else multiple times. These votes were of course nullified.
2. The captain who had more votes than Stary was a player named Wussie who had publicly stated that if selected as captain his sole intention was to make sure that Romania did NOT participate in NC. We weren't exactly fond of him after that, so Stary was chosen instead.
Every other captain either had the same number of votes as his opponent(s) or more, but, yeah, the final decision was always made by us anyway.
Captains shouldn't be chosen purely based on votes, because for example POLIISI-KOIRA would've most likely been the captain of Finland last season if the selection was based on voting alone. CB's system where people voted for captains, but admins did the final selection, was a really good system.
This won't work out well I guess
1.) No cheaters were ever reported to me in any cup I was involved in, so you can only blame yourself if you didn't report suspected cheaters. Every player in the cup I was associated with actively plays on CG ladders/leagues and the matches were all played on ETTV.
2.) This cup is running CGAC (and obviously will have well-respected players, not teams full of randoms).
3.) CG admins will never be running a nationscup, as ohurcool has stated many times.
http://www.crossfire.nu/group/view/id/7638
still not afraid?
Anyway, good luck with your cup - you will definitely need it.
Thanks!
Guess you should know who have been busted many times. He also got reported in that irc channel ;)
And to the rest: "Ok"
anyway gl with the cup
If the first match week won't be finished until mid May, when are the finals going to be played? August?
I can't see the tournament working out if you don't schedule it so that it ends before summer holidays etc. start and most players won't be available to play
I know the time isn't ideal, but in 2014, I can't imagine ET being taken that seriously - it's some fun games with your friends. There really is no better time for it IMO until next year, with the fall cups coming shortly after summer.
There should be made a quali for the best 6o6 team for each country, like in 3o3. atleast best six players will be representing their country, not best 6 friends of the captain. I'm rly tired of watching fanatic's low+ aiming skills with his buddies in "NC" again.
i might be the best 3o3 player atm and one of the best player in 6o6* :)
e: serious answer, CGAC. Hopefully I'm not wrong in my assumption that it will help us identify players?
With so few skilled players, I'm hopeful that it would be pointed out by the community if there was an issue. We may not have the ability to check IPs ourselves, but I'm sure we could ask a CG admin to check.
And I wouldn't call requesting IPs from CG admins in the case that an issue does arise relying on them to admin my tournament. Several members of the community knew about the situation with anim last year before CB admins released it to be public - possibly before they were even aware of it. That doesn't mean the admins were doing a bad job, that means it's a difficult task to make sure every player in a cup as large as this is indeed who they say they are.
If you have anything useful to add, rather than flaming me for no reason, I'm open to any suggestions! I notice the lack of flame towards timbolina's 3on3 WC using the same method, so my thinking is that this is more of a personal attack, in which case, fuck off.
Next time I see timbolina I will inform him he is also doing a bad job, if that makes you feel any better.
Come to us on a case-by-case basis when you think there is an issue, sure. Ask for IP addresses, no.
But surly you didn't answer the question anywhere.
If you guys would back this idea up, it would benefit us all.
Surely someone like you can agree with thisobvious statement.
but the captains should be voted by the community
whatever you do or chose as captain, there will always be some flamers, just ignore these faggets
mida vittu estonia
What's the matter? Soon you're back playing with us again.
you should be happy!
Also I play 1 game per approximately 3 months, why would I ever play with you? sorry for letting you down but I don't plan to play with you ever and sadly you will never be able to reach the level that is near to mine to even get a chance to meet me on the battlefield.
Best of luck though, but you will be competing with the biggest competition in the world so viewership and participation will likely be hurt a lot.
Thanx! & we all know that ET is not the game with every match 500+ viewers :) We just want that the community have some fun in playing ET / Watching ET matches!
Having no NC until this time, is not something to be worried, there's still over half year left and can be done anytime from september onwards, when the actual rythm of players gets somehow back to normal phase, of starting school, weather tends to get lousy and so on.
Good luck on it tho, if u still tend to procceed with it.
But I think you guys should have waited until at least September.
Close, it was actually basically over Summer, ended before Autumn hit :D but ET moar active back then
EDiT: Don't do it. This has to be the least serious NC I've ever seen in ET's history. Feels like a one day cup announcement. I know you want to do good for the community, but this won't be your turn. Invest more time into planning it, make questionnaires with the community about the rules / methods / times concerning the cup, and last but not least get a proper logo.
ceres? lol, i'd be pretty surprised if he would even accept the job if you begged him to do it. With the people who are playing in usa now, he knows it's a waste of time.
basically, unless you combine usa and canada and allow us to play together, you might as well not even bother with canada or usa being in the tournament.
ceres, end, joker, anim, kardon, monkey, bdmatt would be the only team even worth putting in the tournament. otherwise, total waste of time on everyone's side.
Ceres probably wouldn't take the job even though the same lineup as last year, with detdet in for anim, could be used. and monkey would never play with half of the people on that lineup anyway. Combining Team USA with Team Canada is completely out of the question. This is a nationscup, where you're supposed to play for your nation - not continent.
sandbag became a good 3v3 teammate but was never up to the level of NC 6v6. And it's not the continent you fucktard, it's only two countries out of 23 in NA. So how bout instead of having two shit teams that will go nowhere you let us have one good team that can put up some good matches and get some viewers.
Logic. Not hard.
What's the justification in letting USA and Canada compete in the same team for NC though? There are countries that literally cannot field 6 players, and they're not able to use players from other countries. The reason is because you want six good players, and while you have every reason to want the best lineup possible, that is not justification for allowing a Canadian to play on Team USA. How about bape, the one who was originally in the Team USA newspost and was available for those matches? How about the real ppE (who was online all the time during last year's Team USA)? Or alea, Tupac, and godfather, who all played at least one match with Team USA?
The bottom line is that there is no justification for Team USA being allowed the use of anim, or any other player that has no connections to the United States, and it will not be allowed in my cup.
u wot m8?
also: Estonia with sCope & MCLEOd don't qualify as a top nation, imo. especially that they didn't have Night playing. Sweden are also pretty weak when playing without nuggan (which they did against you) + using newbje who hasn't played in a team for like 5 years? then let's not forget lelle, who played in that same match, has little to no ET experience and has pretty much only played RtCW for as long as I can remember.
then there's Weslann, someone that new to topscene doesn't really have much to offer besides some random aim moments. both nations you beat would've never beaten another top nation without their strongest available lineups. :P (which you didn't face, and you faced every nation with anim. you don't really qualify as "USA" when using a foreigner).
tl;dr - I've seen some good wins by USA over the years and that doesn't include the ones where they used a merc, or where they beat weak NC squads.
... NC matches were usually played on neutral servers anyway.
if you're talking about my ping paragraph: apologies as I'm probably wrong (can't relate much to it) but with antilag I've seen some NA players hitting the same as on low ping (eg. rockstar).
"Estonia with sCope & MCLEOd don't qualify as a top nation"
Seriously? You really had to say that? Does USA with a fully inactive players qualify as a top nation or something? Do you even understand that ever since like 2008, team USA consists of players that get together for NC and then don't touch ET for another year. How can you even think that comparing fully inactive players to players that play hours long daily is a good idea? Not only that, but you present those fully inactive players as players with tons of playtime, experience and god knows what. The only ones with experience on team USA would be me, anim, and bdmatt. Not to mention, that experience is from like 2006-2008 as well. It doesn't even matter in 2013+ especially when you quit every year and come back for NC to play for a month.
"Sweden are also pretty weak when playing without nuggan (which they did against you) + using newbje who hasn't played in a team for like 5 years? then let's not forget lelle, who played in that same match, has little to no ET experience and has pretty much only played RtCW for as long as I can remember."
Same answer as above. You start making excuses how they play with bad players, bla bla. They lost to TUPAC. Then wanted the match to be replayed so they can win. Used someone that is NOT allowed to play. Yes, so did we but they had to get rid of their smurf as well. That didn't matter to the retarded admin but that's a different story. And again, you made some random excuses for sweden because their players are inexperienced? Who on team USA do you consider experienced? Inactives End, Kardon, Joker, TUPAC, godfather (yes, he does have experience from 2007)? Or the other fully inactive players Ceres and bdmatt? Understand that we are talking about people that haven't touched the game for a year and come back for NC then disappear again. How can you even think comparing them (us) to people that play (played at the time) 7+ hours a day is even close to smart? It's easy when you apply your logic to only one of both sides, I know. Please don't ever do that stupid shit again.
"considering antilag and the fact that you've all played on that ping for 10 years when neccessary (quite often, no?) I wouldn't say it's the biggest possible disadvantage. it's crazy for europeans who've all played on 48-100 ping max for the last 10 years, but NA players know how to play with that ping after so long."
You are just an idiot when talking about antilag and pings. Again, you are making a comparison as if people from NA play this game on a daily basis and compete. This is not League of Legends. We don't play. Period. Even if we did, even if we played everyday, 148+ ping (some people ping 200+) is not something you get used to. Are you retarded or something? You don't actually know that we did a few scrims vs European teams (that claimed what you are claiming) on NA servers and after holding them in spawn for a few minutes they would disconnect because OMG I PLAY THIS GAME 10 HOURS A DAY BUT THIS LAGS TOO MUCH.
Don't you ever try to say that you can get used to a higher ping. You can play with it because you have no other options (Like Chileans ) but you don't get used to shit.
"do you feel it's ok to play with one of the most experienced and active canadian players, in team USA?"
To be completely honest, I really don't care. Neither does anyone from team USA. Anim has played for USA tons of times like USA players, including me, have played for Canada. Btw, other teams have smurfed as well, GER and FRA come to mind. They were just never caught. So, don't give me all the crap about omg you shouldn't have other players playing for your nation. Please, look at how zerender played for whoever he wanted and whenever he wanted or fireball, or maybe hummel. At least we had balls and did it consistently. Do you really think End will go out of his way to find a 6th player, that nobody knows, to play with us when we have no community nor enough players? We played to have fun and beat some teams because everyone we beat was so furious after all the shit talking they did before the matches. Especially the baddies from sweden. Losing to TUPAC when they practiced 6+ hours on average daily, oh god.
Oh, almost forgot. Kardon is correct. We are/were undefeated. It's a simple definition. Look it up.
Reply if you want to but you better think about what you have to say. Don't give me any of that ping advantage crap.
Edit: I totally agree about the ping though. I've seen demos where American mixes with lows and some decent players are beating euro mixes full of highskillers. Excel vs mamut and 8bits is more proof of that.
i think you honestly have a tumor
because there aren't actually that many people who play as much as you're claiming? do you seriously think the ET scene in europe was crazy active in 2013?
exactly..? that's pretty much what I said, they were weak.
the fact that you even believe the Swedish NC team played ET actively is a joke in itself. I mean I know you feel the need to insult people when in a discussion such as this, but you could at least be serious with the minor details.
zerender and humM3L only ever played for Russia. never (even in the CF NC & WC 2007) did they play for Germany. Fireball was also never allowed to represent Turkey as he played for Germany first. as for other nations smurfing, I know some did do it, I can't see how that justifies anything? you speak of my flawed logic when you seem to be facing your own here.
yes, precisely, you pretty much just proved the point that people who've little to no experience playing with high ping will get raped in comparison to those who've had to play with high ping for years.
once again this is just pure bitterness, I've already agreed that they were weak but there's just no chance they practiced even close to daily.
I didn't say it's an advantage, at all. not even once.
*ps* it's so strange to me that I managed to reply to kardon, with no hostility nor flame received and from you in a totally normal informative discussion (truly, I'm actually interested because I didn't involve myself in the arguments in 2013) you managed to call me an idiot/retard/stupid consistently throughout the whole thing. before you do say it, I'm not biased against USA so at least make the attempt to not take my comment as a 1v1 valhalla challenge.
Do I think the scene was active? I was there... I could see what teams were always on and playing. I am not throwing numbers out there for no reason.
As for the discussion of players playing for other countries. Lol, I guess you weren't there and you don't know. Simple as that. I mentioned those players for a reason. I'll leave it there.
As for the ping comment... wow, I don't want to call you an idiot again. That would be too much.
Generally, I rarely post on here. However, I have to do it when I read complete and utter bullshit. You CAN post whatever you want to but that doesn't mean that you HAVE to do it. If you don't know, then just leave it be and don't try to push your dumb thoughts onto others.
People getting used to high ping... wow.
right, and then you continue to say "I am not throwing numbers out there for no reason." - you said the swedish team were individually as active as 7h+ per day. :D you also said they practiced 6h a day together, it's just a joke and an attempt to insult people who undoubtedly didn't play that much at all.
also: zerender and humM3L were never allowed to play for Germany. if you're hell bent on proving me wrong, provide me with a game link where they actually played. then and only then will you know you're right, because I remember zerender clearly saying the rules forbid him to play for the team.
in regards to ping, I won't even bother because you'll never let up on that even in the slightest. "can't get used to high ping" - ok. :D
I have played with every ping in this game, and I can say that people who whine about ping is really sad, just an excuse they use when they suck or get owned. You only get to feel a real difference/disadvantage when the ping goes above 260 imo, and that is not because you hit less but because you cant run as fast as you do with 50, 100, 150 , 200 or 250 or it "feels" that way, it feels like you go a lot slower and the bullets chase you behind walls..so that is a thing.
Anything over 260 is a disadvantage in my opinion, but even so you can get used to it and be decent (for example those japanese players "back then" and some australian players as well).
Whining over a 148 ping is really sad, that ping is the fucking same as playing with 48 ping in ET (if stable! ) I also find really sad when I go to an european server rape some european players and they start calling us unhit....get head and etc whine, then we invite them to play the same scrim in an american server , same result then they start whining that they cant hit shit and they lag, hahaha well the ping whine in this community/game is really sad and I had to say it. Also the usa vs swe discussion is also retarded, they used a non-american player thats the end of it.
all I was trying to say is that NA players find it easier to play on high ping than EU players do because of having to play on high ping servers for so long. my point wasn't pointless, you guys were just expecting it to mean "high ping isn't a problem" when that's not what I wrote at all. :D
I play with NA players alot even tho im Finnish, its not even hard to get used to higher ping, for me atleast, while i played on NA servers with them. my normal ping has been 98 for like the past 10years. BUT it is indeed very hard to stay focused while some retard (read: ipod) is bouncing around happy for his 48ping moving like he has a fucking tornado up his ass while its 5am and im at 200ping spotting him later. But yeah, usually played with that ping during night/early morning so i dont know if that makes my brain work like 200ping too
and while at that hour its not very serious gaming for me, it is more serious to rest of the people playing in day time with good pings so I gotta try to keep up with them.
ipod > dignitas
Link you to some matches? I can do but what does that prove?
http://www.gamestv.org/event/11900-descent-vs-cortana/
I guess you meant these? those are some nice wins indeed but again you're exaggerating with these words like DECIMATED. these were like 2nd tier 3on3 teams in 2008/2009, neither of them would've even been near the top of the 3o3 scene (which was pretty active at the time). dispo were like a B team to wings (nuggan, jonas & co), who were actually a top 3o3 team. no doubt you did get some nice wins but this dominated stuff is just inaccurate.
one polish guy who applied said that :D
Upload (medic reviver)
wassabi (polish eujen)
Arnold (agressive medic)
promen (field ops junky shoots everywhere no need to be brained)
Silent (medic reviver/agressive according to the situation)
random 6th rifle
easy
why?? few comments above I read that you are the best pl player, why wouldn't they take you as captain?? I thought you guys are the best, aren't you??
oh wait all of you are fucking randoms that can't even be compared with anyone from "my buddies" (except s1LENT dunno why he's even there with those 4 mongols)
or just me xD
Murica <3
If Vein benches every active player in USA including himself and starts bots they will do better because they fucking suck.
Undefeated Undisputed Team USA back to back world war champs.