Wolfenstein - Enemy Territory

Idle could lose Urtier and Senji

by TosspoT • 8 Dec 2006, 08:29 • News
After a school shooting in Germany on the 20th of November, German Politicians are pointing the finger the direction of violent video games after it was discovered that the criminal played CounterStrike a "killer game". Germany currently has one of the strictest gaming laws in the world, with GIGA unable to show ET until after 23.00 CET, hense the scheduling for this seasons IPS.

Jörg Schönbohm, the interior minister of the eastern state of Brandenburg said:
QuoteKiller games make a fatal contribution to a growing tendency towards violence and they promote aggressive behavior. That's why strict action is needed against games that glorify violence


Germany is one of the largest gaming nations, and a strong force in the professional gaming arena. Events such as cebit and games convention top even the biggest American Entertainment shows and any potential changes to law put an estimated 2 billion euro and 1.7 million gamers future at risk.

Many people have long sought a way to beat idle, it appears that crazy politicians may be the answer after all. In other news, zeroPoint & aMenti have filed complaints with Clanbase stating that Night is actually German and the long lost brother of Pumu.

Source: Gotfrag
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Rafiki 8 Dec 2006, 08:32
Germany Night, nothx :/

So many crap on the subject lately...

QuoteIn the book: "Stop Teaching Our Kids to Kill", Lt. Col. Dave Grossman suggests that video games provide "an easily accessible 'practice range' where children can perfect their aim and sharpen their 'killing instinct'."
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Deactivated5031 9 Dec 2006, 18:37
That combination of the German flag and Night's nickname seems pretty cool.
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xfRd 8 Dec 2006, 08:32
politicians > all
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shepherd 8 Dec 2006, 08:33
It's not the game which makes people go nuts, it's deep inside their brain. Or maybe it's just germans who go nuts when they play game with guns and bang. Atleast i don't feel like killing someone IRL when i play.
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SpartaPride 8 Dec 2006, 08:36
I didnt think there was a country dumber than America but it turns out there is!
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kiitos 8 Dec 2006, 12:08
lol
americans dont know the difference between sweden and switzerland, and 30% of them think that the moon is made of cheese
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Rafiki 8 Dec 2006, 12:09
And Belgium is the capital of Brussels!
And the funniest part... 4/10 Americans think France is Australia on a map :D
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levz 8 Dec 2006, 15:18
well ye, holland is the capital of amsterdam and the netherlands are in scandinavia
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Olly 8 Dec 2006, 12:45
And they think polar bears are walking around in the streets of oslo. and also that oslo is the capital of sweden.
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bronze 8 Dec 2006, 14:52
they dont think nothing at all
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_doNka 8 Dec 2006, 20:07
Sweden =/= Switzerland?!?!!?

WHAT THE FUCK!
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frozz. 9 Dec 2006, 00:03
they thought Croatia is a butter.
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kiitos 9 Dec 2006, 01:02
HAHA thats the best one so far
moon = cheese
so croatia MUST be food
thats all they think about :DD
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Dersaidin 8 Dec 2006, 08:42
If worst comes to worse, we can go to hit box player models. No violence, just some boxes clicking on each other :>
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taLa 8 Dec 2006, 09:05
Convince bani to replace bullets with flowers !
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gambit 8 Dec 2006, 09:23
same shit as four years ago, after a school shooting in erfurt
nothing will happen
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sol 8 Dec 2006, 09:36
I must admit it would be nice to try driving Grand Theft Auto style, IRL.
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Neglect 8 Dec 2006, 09:48
zomg its teh videogames, someone lock up this criminal-to-be!
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Coffinfeeder 8 Dec 2006, 09:36
Nothing really new in this newspost, the intern minister of one state has shit to say.
Like gambit said nothing will happen.
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Darky 8 Dec 2006, 10:01
And Gambit knows exactly everything related with "has shit to say" .. :)

Toss.. we had this discussion too often, and there are allready politicians who say that it's bullshit to blame it on the video-games. In my opinion _thats_ worth a news post ;)
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Coffinfeeder 8 Dec 2006, 10:04
Heee, benutz nich meinen post zum flamen, so gehts aber nicht!!! :D
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Darky 8 Dec 2006, 10:07
hehe - verzeih mir <3

muß nur alle heiligen Zeiten mal ein gambit eins um die ohren hauen , hat sich gerade so angeboten ;)
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gambit 8 Dec 2006, 10:54
jetzt hast dus mir allerdings hart gegeben.
/sob
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n3co 8 Dec 2006, 14:00
lassts doch den armen gambit in ruhe :(
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Ronner 8 Dec 2006, 10:06
it's so funny. nowadays they always need something to blame to clarify what's going on.

Whatever happened to labeling things as just "someone being fucking crazy"?
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Darky 8 Dec 2006, 10:08
Exactly .. "Ronner is fucking crazy" - remember the rabbit.. and the snake... and where the fuck is Mav? - muha! :)
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Ronner 8 Dec 2006, 10:13
oida...

watch it bitch, I might just bring a gun with me to the next lan.
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stewie 8 Dec 2006, 13:58
As long as you keep it in your trousers we're all good.
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Rafiki 8 Dec 2006, 14:00
trousers on CPC LAN? LOL!?
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maverick888 9 Dec 2006, 23:11
im here you wanker
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karm 8 Dec 2006, 10:14
i would like to see every german gamer in front of parlament(or what ever u have there) to protest against it.

think, it would be cool to see banners like, Gaming good! Drugs bad!MKAY

or Minister is an a$$h013
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nordaN 8 Dec 2006, 10:18
lol'ing irl
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biqq 8 Dec 2006, 10:27
as if..
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N30 8 Dec 2006, 10:30
EEN AFSCHEIDSWAL AA NDE WATERLIJN
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stewie 8 Dec 2006, 10:43
ET is after 2300CET because it's not rated at all. Not because its too violent.
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kRONE 8 Dec 2006, 10:44
how they can observe online "killing" games? one police in every house? =P

like in finland.... a year ago Finnish Politicians made a law what says that "downloading and sharing a copyright material isn't allowed" .... yeah... ISP won't do anything to help those "controllers".... they don't even wanna lose a single customer... Finnish Police hasn't enough capacity... so who can help? =)

same thing in this situation.... they can say no for games which are in shops.... but stoping online gaming isn't even possible.... just like downloading a material what is under a copyright law...

back to do some works.... and have a nice weekend!
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overdrive 8 Dec 2006, 12:33
well ... eeuhm .... spoken!
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Sesky 8 Dec 2006, 10:55
"German Politicians are pointing the finger the direction of disgusting actions after it was discovered that the criminal goes poe"

I'm sure Politicians are examinating deep inside the effect of shit over comportemental issues ...

beware !
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rapture 8 Dec 2006, 11:15
are yermans now known as terrorists? will bush hunt urtier and senji? >_<
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Nippel 8 Dec 2006, 11:18
Arh it is the fucking pressure from our society, which doesnt care for weaks persons because of the n1 money, making people go mad :/
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triflip 8 Dec 2006, 11:18
yermans sucks, I still have to pay 150 euros for driving into a yerman car and then driving away.
Thought I did smth good for my own country :o And now I'm not allowed to drive in yermany for a year :D

And they should put stickers on video games liek "Gaming Kills" or "you might lose your real life" just like on cigarettes.
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unblind 8 Dec 2006, 14:38
Wolfenstein Enemy Territory, free online team based FPS click ET CAUSES CANCER DONT PLAY IT to download (230mb)
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levz 8 Dec 2006, 15:22
made me laugh irl
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Syd 9 Dec 2006, 05:52
haha, fkn win.
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dce 8 Dec 2006, 16:00
deserved..! germans have to pay a lot more money if they have an accident in holland ( i know it exactly.. )
btw ur stupid.. driving away...
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Michiel 8 Dec 2006, 11:53
then buy it in holland online. Problem fixed.
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gambit 8 Dec 2006, 11:54
oh yes, that "fixes the problem"
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Spirea 8 Dec 2006, 11:56
yermans ^^
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overdrive 8 Dec 2006, 12:33
I blame hitler.
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lev1 8 Dec 2006, 12:40
I blame you.
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overdrive 8 Dec 2006, 12:41
i gonna kill your parents and burn your house down
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lev1 8 Dec 2006, 17:29
im homeless and have no parents online 24/7
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dmr 8 Dec 2006, 12:42
LOL xD
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Olly 8 Dec 2006, 12:43
hahaha, if he had listened to metal they would have blamed that as well. Fucking politicians, they're the reason for everything that's wrong in this world imo..
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Bitmap 8 Dec 2006, 13:21
Politicians make people angry, so maybe they should be banned.
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t0b 8 Dec 2006, 12:45
Well, terrible things have happened, we MUST prevent them from happening again. banning voilent videogames just isnt enough!!! There were shootings from people who never played them. But recent investigations proved another thing: 100% of all those pll wore shoes on their feet, so BAN ALL SHOES, immediately, before its too late. can anyone think of the children plz?
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deej 8 Dec 2006, 12:49
So from 1.7 million players 1 goes nuts and the reason is the game?
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t0b 8 Dec 2006, 12:51
ofc, this is german logic, clear n easy, dont u think? ;)
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_dio 8 Dec 2006, 13:01
roflmao.. i remember when i was killing my school mate with hadoken and shoryuken.. or when i throw a golden axe into the presidence room..
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vila 8 Dec 2006, 13:06
:) , i remember when i was in school with my pf to get my documents from the supervisor , i had to secure them in my truck to get acces to the secret schoolroom , when i grabbed that objective i secured it at my truck , while doing i killed 10 teachers , 8 students and the director , i did a triple kill on the teachers btw
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_dio 8 Dec 2006, 14:28
H4X !!!!!
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arrow 8 Dec 2006, 15:21
how many headshots ?
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vila 11 Dec 2006, 11:23
i only shoot bodyshots
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rbnt 9 Dec 2006, 16:33
dat was gedeeltelijk best grappig vila! nice
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FaTTony 11 Dec 2006, 07:20
sounds like a good joke, but think about that:
i wouldnt make jokes about explosives or bombs if i am at airport - so what do u think can paople imagine if they read ur post in a gaming forum? hf with police :D
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vila 11 Dec 2006, 11:23
if that is taken serious im frankenstein (in fact i am )
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FaTTony 11 Dec 2006, 11:31
so un ur next flight just check out whos gonna take it serious if u scream: "i am a terrorist and got a bomb" - i would think bout where to post my jokes in these massacre-days
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chaoZ 8 Dec 2006, 13:04
yes.. blame the computer games and not the society who made him run amok
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Quinne 8 Dec 2006, 13:05
Next step will be turning off the internet
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Claim 8 Dec 2006, 13:12
Computer games do not effect children.
Cmon, when I was still growin up, everyone played pacman, if that shit would of effected us, we would be eatin colorful pills, running around in dark rooms and listening to shitty electronic dance music.

And for people who didnt get irony, your just way too stupid for this community.
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evan 8 Dec 2006, 13:24
lol sounds like what most student DO! :D
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Ronner 8 Dec 2006, 14:57
You are very cool. You are using a joke that's been around for ages and actually goes:

"If Pacman had affected us as kids we'd be running around in dark rooms, munching pills and listening to repetitive music."

It was written by Marcus Brigstocke a loooongass time ago. Shame on you for being so cheeky to portray this as something you thought up yourself.
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overdrive 8 Dec 2006, 15:11
omg ... You must be older then the internet itself
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levz 8 Dec 2006, 15:28
internet isn't that old
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Deactivated7001 8 Dec 2006, 13:17
I guess he also used toiletts. Let's forbid toilets!
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zifff 8 Dec 2006, 13:28
This would reduce the whine in loads of community's ...
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decem 8 Dec 2006, 15:00
they should apply the same for belgium, would be über!
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Bitmap 8 Dec 2006, 13:45
I actually do agree that violence shouldn't be glorified, but I don't think games in general are any more guilty of doing this than the history books or the news on TV.

If they really cared about human lives they would have banned things like tobacco and unhealthy food long ago, this whole video game debate is just a poor excuse for bad parenting.
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n3co 8 Dec 2006, 14:00
mhm CS will be dead soon coz the whole kiddy german cs community will be removed haha
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lev1 8 Dec 2006, 17:30
lol daran hab ich noch gar nicht dacht loled
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pumu 8 Dec 2006, 14:08
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unterhaltungssoftware_Selbstkontrolle
germany already has the laws to ban kill0r-games
we have like the hardest restrictions on pc games in the world :<
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FaTTony 11 Dec 2006, 07:29
meinste das ernst?!?
Hab gestern nen Bericht gesehen, ich glaub NTV oder so, jedenfalls war der sehr anti Videogames. Irgendne Soziologin hat sich tierisch darüber beklagt, daß es in Deutschland gar keine Zensierung mehr gibt. Die 5 Games, die jährlich verboten werden, sind lachhaft - und alles andere was nicht gerade "Doom3" oder so heißt, geht mit USK16 durch.
Man bedenke, daß die USK von CS nach Erfurt sogar auf 16 wieder runtergesetzt wurde. Ich kann mich erinnern, daß noch vor ca. 8 Jahren Leichen bei Resident Evil verschwanden, bei Tombraider grünes Blut spritzte und Spiele wie Apocalypse & Die Hard sofort aufm Index standen!
Die Hard war damals USK18, nachn paar Wochen durfte es gar nicht mehr verkauft werden, trotzdem hab ich es als 13 oder 14jähriger in nem Laden in Augsburg gekauft.
USK und Zensur warn in germany immer schon fürn arsch ;)
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pumu 11 Dec 2006, 13:34
hmm vllt waren früher die spiele nicht so realistisch ? :P
auf jeden fall hab ich einen seriösen bericht gesehen, in dem ein fachmann aus der computerspieleentwicklung gesagt hat, dass wir hier sowieso schon den härtesten jugendschutz haben
und in anderen ländern koennte man solche spiele nicht einmal auf den index setzen :l
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FaTTony 11 Dec 2006, 13:49
naa, dann war der fachmann schlecht informiert bzw. nicht aufm aktuellsten Stand!
Und Realismus is imo sowieso sowas ähnliches wie "Geschmackssache", sprich Ansichtssache des Betrachters - GTA1 (in 2D) fand ich damals auch sehr realistisch ;)

Neues Bsp:
C&C Teil1&2 und ich glaub bei Generals wars auch so:
Die ganze Welt schießt auf Russen & Amis - in Deutschland mußten sie aus den Soldaten "Cyborgs" machen

Also ich für meinen Teil hab mich oft aufgeregt früher, über grünes Blut, zensierte Games oder USK´s. Heute hat mein 8-jähriger Bruder keine Probleme im Saturn GTA (USK 16) fürn PSP zu kaufen, verbotene Spiele gibts vorm Release im Inet zum Download und CS darfste offiziell auf der LAN mit 16 daddeln

nur mal so btw vor knapp 5 jahren galten LAN´s in Deutschland als Spielhallen - also ab 18 und drunter ging nix. Heute kannste mit 16 offiziell auf ne LAN, in nen "ab18-Bereich" mit Einwilligung der Eltern...times r changing
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w1Za 8 Dec 2006, 14:28
Killers play computer games and not "killergames" are played by gamers

so why dont you ban the normal news from TV?
As if they are "unreal"
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mphizz0r 8 Dec 2006, 14:40
Blame Yermany :(
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decem 8 Dec 2006, 15:02
would be funny to see the reaction of almost 2 million gamers in germany, most nolifers doing rl 5 sec primenades against ministers and goverment. dont let evil do 4 mean teamkill pf though ;<
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sh1tty 8 Dec 2006, 15:02
gamers > goverment
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fEARmE 8 Dec 2006, 15:12
f*uk germany, as long as I can strafejumo in my country
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Gumiflex 8 Dec 2006, 15:25
Call airstrike on german parliament, urtier. ;d
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dce 8 Dec 2006, 16:00
not funny.
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Sal 8 Dec 2006, 19:17
it is. 8>
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dce 8 Dec 2006, 19:18
kackschleimer !
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Gumiflex 8 Dec 2006, 23:13
is it supposed to be?
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Kristoffersson 8 Dec 2006, 16:09
I'd love to see them all banned, an online gaming community without germans, just imagine how that would be. o_Ô
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JobCohen 8 Dec 2006, 16:10
We would have no one to flame :( sounds boring to me!
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Kristoffersson 8 Dec 2006, 16:18
Yeah but on every public server there is in every game there is they all go "scheise wollen sie das cheating nich gemachen auf wiedersehen cheateraufschum tot mit die!!!!11"

And yes thats my school germish.
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dce 8 Dec 2006, 16:21
ur school german rly rock :D
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Fatalstrike 8 Dec 2006, 18:34
hahaha stfu -.-
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Jin 8 Dec 2006, 16:48
Keep pissing off germans please. Soon they'll be gone
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dymon 8 Dec 2006, 18:25
shame to live in germany -_-
ill go to... korea ... YEAH KOREA, thats rulez
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nuggan 8 Dec 2006, 19:01
as long as we don't have to play goldrush versus butchji & co, i don't mind
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kafux 8 Dec 2006, 19:58
The jury is still out. Since it is not legal that any country of the European Single Market restricts a whole pallet of products for its population and forces them to buy it via internet, etc. in other countries, the German Gaming Industry announced already to go to the European Court of Justice if the German politicians would sharpen the laws again. A standardised 'killer-game'-law within the EU, which many German politicians call for especially when Germany takes the chair next year of the EU, will definitely have not much success in sight. In my opinion it would come the other way round, a standardised law for computer games within the EU would weaken the German laws and many games which are actually forbidden would be allowed again ... But time will tell :)
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Dreamweaver 9 Dec 2006, 02:06
well, it isnt really a big deal. in every country politicians whine about computer games, not only "killer-games" and actually do nothing.

i heard that some time ago in poland a boy killed or almost killed his mother, because she turned off his pc and he lost his account (TIBIA or smth like that). there was a news in every journal on every tv channel at 19:00, 19:30, ofc again some very well-educated professor showed up on the screen and said that games blablabla. they even made few discussions in tv about bad influence on young ppl blablabla.

every time some patology occurs, everytime some young 12-year-old emo comes to school with a gun and shoots to people, everytime some idiot makes custom cs map which looks like his own school (rly happend), there will always be a talk about blablabla.

all we should do imo, is to let them whine, they will forget about it faster than some two-week clan exist, and ofc will do nothing.

btw, thrilling, attentionwhore topic: 'omfg - ze I D L E could lose U r t i e r and S e n j i !!!!! End of world!!!! :)
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phun 9 Dec 2006, 11:53
Isn't ET open-source?
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moutoul 9 Dec 2006, 16:25
"Night is actually German and the long lost brother of Pumu."

Ho you didnt know?
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evan 9 Dec 2006, 16:41
lol it would be funny if the biggest pc game of 2007 crysis which is being made in germany was banned :D
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Fratze 9 Dec 2006, 17:59
Forbidding something works the other way around, rewarding works.
Since mediocracy is the sickness of this world, politicians should focus on education and development-aid for 3rd world countries, instead of giving in to these populistic statements to cocksuck some votes in.
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Quiki 9 Dec 2006, 19:32
Its makes me so fucking ANGRY that some old fart shit is sitting in fucking parlament and knowing nothing about anything.

"The guy who shoot played Counter Strike" WELL DAA FCUKING IDIOT. WHO THE FUCK DOSENT PLAY GAMES THIS DAY?!?!?!?!? EVERY FUCKING HOUSE HAS SOME KIND OF GAMING DEVICE!

Fucking retards!

If theres gonna be some protest in germany I will come all the way from Finland with fucking bazooka wich I will buy from Russia mafia and shoot that fucking fart!
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moutoul 10 Dec 2006, 13:28
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If theres gonna be some protest in germany I will come all the way from Finland with fucking bazooka wich I will buy from Russia mafia and shoot that fucking fart!"
THAT S EXACTLY THE POINT !!!
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ISEN 10 Dec 2006, 14:52
germans and counterstrike.. thats just asking for troubles!
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smokey151 10 Dec 2006, 17:55
german people cant handle violence, see it here
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