Should Shoutcasters be quiet during games?

It seems to become more of a habit that shoutcasters tend to type things in globalchat, not just the regular "rup" during warmup, but also "gg" before the game has even finished. Should there be rules for shoutcasters on ETTV?
39.3 %
(458 votes)
35.5 %
(413 votes)
25.2 %
(294 votes)
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just talk at the end simple.
who cares
genre le fake profil spece de con =]
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Hitwhore :D
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why would they have to talk in-game anyways? its not part of the shoutcasting.
just kick after chatting, second time few weeks ban!
usually not the shoutcasters do that but the admins who are suppose to be watching and only talk when there is a problem/dispute.
admins have the rights to talk, but havent really seen an admin talk in global like he did.
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woot happend? who talked on global? wtf?
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id say s0k1 has the most retarded comments so far....
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It's the admins doing 'shoutouts' that annoys me.
I've only seen it three times -- sock1 twice, I think, and that "gratz belgium" guy -- but I hate it like cancer.

there is no reason for them to talk during a game anyways, so someone please make them stfu!
bind = say "^7HeadShot^1} ^7sinuss: ^2 gratz belgium :D"
so it's the guys from headshot who can't keep their mouths shut? are they a bunch of kids?
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Yep, they talk ingame = kids
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I'm not really concidering that funny due to my natioality.
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That is indeed the best comment ever :D
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I lol'd when sinuss said that, haha :D. Too bad Finland won it :(
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yes plz. except for Tosspot cuz he rox :)
well eventhough I started this poll just take some of the examples in mind.

- Championsleague final between Barcelona and Chelsea.. 50 seconds before the game is over, a sportscommentator runs onto the field, and taps ronaldinho on the shoulders and says "gg!"

- the GF one.. 50 seconds before you are about to shoot your load into her, someone opens the bedroom door and says "gg!!"

- 50 seconds before Hamilton is going to do a win in formula 1 in montreal canada, someone runs up the road with a sign saying "GG!"

..

shoutcasters should know there place. Rules should be made for them. Admins should simply kick shoutcasters out of the game server when they speak in global chat.. it's not their place to speak.
LoL at your examples xD
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totaly agree, shoutcaster are there to shoutcast not spam some random bullshit in global chat.

And the players can lose their focus for a minimum amount of time just for reading the crap the shoutcasters are typing.

the rules should be:
Talking in global chat once is a warning and they will be muted for the rest of the match.
If it happens a second time during a other war he'll kicked out of the server and will be banned for a month.
Third time is 12 month ban.
Returning while banned is a lifetime ban.
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can't agree more imo.
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your grace is so amazing !
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banned from what? playing ET cos he global chatted on ETTV .. ngr plz..

n if he was banned from shoutcasting he wouldnt be able to offend as no-one would take the shoutcaster when hes banned so the 12months thing sounds stupid and irrelevant
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banned from shoutcasting ofc are u stupid or smth, why would you ban somebody from playing for chatting.

But the shoutcasters just need to stfu op during maes so thats why we need rules.

Same with cheaters, we don't like them using cheats so we ban them.
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shoutcasters are too l33tz0r for rules.
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I think maybe your examples over exaggerate the point you are trying to make, but I do agree with the grounds you are basing your argument on.

I dont think it is right for a shoutcaster to talk during a match (ie when the clock is ticking) because, as you said, it is distracting for a player to see "gg" when there is still a chance for them to complete an objective.

However, I dont think there is any problem if when the game is not running (i.e in warmup time before the match or after the match/map has ended) This is because sometimes, if players fakenick during an ETTV match the shoutcaster may ask the players or admin who that person is as it is often quicker to do it on the game server rather than asking in a private IRC channel.

Also, if I am talked to by a player then I think it is kind of rude to just ignore them. Finally, and more close to the point you are making with Sok1, I dont think there is anything wrong with saying "wp" etc as long as players are not playing and I think this can either be done on IRC or on the gameserver (when the match has ended, as stated above)

I think it is just a minority of casters that go over the top.
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argh, there is no such thing as over exaggerated, that's redundant. :(
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agree they just need to stfu it's not about them it's about the game. They say things to get attention in most cases and it don't add something to the actuall game so they have to be quiet imo.
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it aggravates me the same way when watching a film at the theater and people start getting up before the end credits roll up, because they want to DEMONSTRATE that THEY KNOW the film is about to end anyway and there's nothing more to see. I hate them.
Who cares?!?
players can use teamchat only
this headshot ready is really annoying to me! i guess that the point of this poll, isn't it? :P

shoutcasters shout just shut up on the gameserver, look at toos like he is doing.
I think the admins must be allowed to say useful things during the match, whatever that is. But all these ettv servers spamming gg a minute before the match is over should be muted without a doubt. When it comes to the shoutcasters, which i guess this is all about, they should stick to team chat unless there's a pause in the game or during warmup etc.
They can talk in teamchat, otherwise kick.
Teamchat is fine imo but not stuff like "killing spree ended in 9 frags by gifty"
As long as there are no GG or LOLOL NAISJE SHOT and shit like that - let 'em talk
as long as they dont overdo it, but it adds some fun to the boring warmups if evry1 chats
np.. I can take it from guys with dead animals on their chin imo
[INSERT ZING PICTURE HERE]
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cg_teamchatsonly 1 :D
Then you can't read if an admin said something to you :o
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mystic style:P
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Well, I think all specs should be muted. Ref the people that need/have the authority to speak.
now WHO REALLY CARES
Be happy that some guyz doing shoutcast for ET... but I must agree typing gg before end is polish speciality :P
I don't care whatsoever.
Tbh, shoutcasters should always be muted.
Besides clanbase rules clearly state spectators should be muted :o)
Which might be why there's a difference between the "rank" of Spec and Shoutcaster?
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No diffrence is made in teh rules!
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Shoutcasters can cast their game from the matchserver, with sound, thats why its a shoutcast. They have no right to say ANYTHING on the matchserver tbh, because they are no admins nor players..
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who cares
Exactly what I said :o
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Talking ingame is lowskilled ask mesq ;<
No, let them shut the fuck up.
Asking for information from the admins in teamchat is fair enough, anything else gets on my tits. When theres ETTV all specs should shut the fuck up, people watching don't need to and most don't want to see the admins giving shoutouts or have a conversation. Sometimes I like to read what the ETTV viewers are saying in a game but can't have that without being able to see teamchats. Can turn them both off with cg_teamchatheight 0 though.

So no, they should stfu while on ETTV unless it's telling the team the map poll or talking to the other admin telling them to do something (like reminding them to check guid's and shit), even that can be done on IRC though.

Shoutouts is what REALLY gets me though. Makes both the admins and the cup unprofessional and in the admins case, undeserving.
ban RETARDS :)
you're all experts, aren't you.
When I was around as GameSup, I always instructed my crew to do it as less as possible. That policy already helped.

Making rules is a bit over the top and will be hard to upkeep, because some things such as other broadcasters or shoutcasters technical things is quite handy to be discussed over the gameserver.

There should just be one protocol....ONLY the very necessary goes on global talk, the rest should not be typed in the game. Admins and supervisors should instruct their crew, the GTV should do the same, shoutcasters need a bitchslap...problem solved.

Then again, there should be exceptions for l33t people like myself, because I am sure that everyone wants to read what I have to say ;P

BTW Ronner...op SBS6 hebben we nog altijd Hans Kraaij Jr. die als een gek het veld op rent en half gaat meefeesten :P Daar gaat je pleidooi
AFTER the match cash ;)
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As less as possible, liek JCash already told
actually they should just stfu.
plz next poll "should admins be allowd to make shoutouts?"
ye idd, fucking virtu
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ridiculous - just mute all specs except for one admin. those "professional" cb admins talking spec-teamchat the whole game are annoying too since you cant ignore them while watching ettv.
haha I agree with you on that one :D
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not only shoutcasters but also admins etc
I agree with splodge, if the clock is ticking and someone says smth like "did you see that tosspot xDDD" (hi saintt)I think he should be able to answer, but when the game is on, ssshh.
we rarely talk in chat anyway :)
shoutcasters from all over the world will unite and own the world! :P
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But there is only one way how to do it - kill s0k1 :P
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This is so useless. Let them talk when they want to as long as it's not like spam. And about the admin's which saying something in team talk... If you mind about such things, YOU'RE A RETARD!
omg, no they shouldn't shut up. what kind of retard idea is that... if you don't like what they stay, then =>>>

CG_TEAMCHATTIME "0"
You get auto muted for spamming. So it doesn't really matter :/ why should they be quiet, its not like the players can see them write.
s0k1 is fucking annoying.
what a fukin retard poll, should a shoutcaster keep quite in game. u dont have to listen to him unless its lan. a shoutcaster is there to shoutcast the game ffs. should the bbc and sky have commentry when football is on lool, silly fooks. daft poll
mate they mean should a shoutcaster type comments ingame... not talk into the mic :o)
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what the SC says the time of the game, just pause your winamp and when u get to that time...resume :~<
Yea it sucks when admins of 3on3 matches ask about my mouse sensitivity while I'm dueling :D
It's an idiot rule, since when you're playing that much with SC that shoutcast stuff annoys you ?
IMHO 'gg' stuff is ok, i'm wondering why you want to bring communism in ET community...
I understand that ppl might get mad @ shoutcasters when they spam during game, but who does ? I never recieved any complaint about our shoutcasters. If someone is spamming you always have mute command, dont you? Simply - use your own rights during match.
QuoteI never recieved any complaint about our shoutcasters.


This poll is a complaint and everyone that is agreeing with Ronner is registering their complaint. Do we have to do it in writing? This poll is here because you and s0k1 are doing what Ronner is saying, I never see Splodge, Mashed, smoke or the french/estonian guys talking just a few of the HS ppl.
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You are bullshitting, really. Next time mate I'll watch ETTV carefully to find every word that is useless. Pls tell me that you are not talking to anyone on server or commenting killing sprees. Less bullshit, less ego Toss. Since I flamed @ admin work @ CPC 1 you are always against me.
About gratz belgium stuff. I did it once, and pls dont overrate it.
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If I am bullshitting then what are the replies that are agreeing with Ronner? I cannot comment on every game that is shoutcasted, however the ones I'm there for, you and s0k1 are the only ones global chatting. I've no clue whether headshot were stupid enough to give you a senior position, but if they did you should take some responsibility for your actions and your associates actions.
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Toss really, comments in this poll are ppl opinion about shoutcaster chat ingame, votes arent complating, they are opinions. And yes, you are bullshiting. Do not compare your words to other comments. Noone exept YOU is whining @ me. You got sorta problem, and leave it for yourself, do not make it public mate. I'm wondering how come you are so self-confident..

Btw. i havent been casting for +2 months, so thx for making ppl mind. That's very kind of you. Cya
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You ability to dodge the bullet amazes me. You should be a politician if you really believe your 'innocence'
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ofcourse they should fuck up all they must be screwed as well
Don't really care, let them talk. Tho saying "GG" minute before game ends (on map like radar, but there are a lot of maps where is plenty of "junk" time so it's not always incorrect to say that) is stupid, but well, that probably was just an idiot caster.
pls -.- Players wont give a shit (or u are rly fucking 24/7 gamer) and those random gg's are funny binds so np! Let them chat !1
I don't see the reason why shoutcasters should talk in game, especially in global chat. If they really want to talk they can 1st do it via their microphone and spread their spam to their public 2nd they can do it in team chat (specs only) so they won't interrupt anyone.

Imo the only players that should be allowed to talk in global are the players of both teams themselves. And the admin who is reffing the match can talk in global aswell for guidelines that affect the match. If an admin wants to talk not about guidelines he should do it in teamchat (like shoutouts, or comments on the match). But banning shoutcasters because they said a word: not a good job cuz soon you will lose most of your casters. If shoutcasters want to start talking in global they should become admins, izi job, ur ze boss in ze game so you can do whatever you want (and of course i'm exaggerating this one!)
they can talk, the issue arises when some individuals take the license too far and use chat as their personal playground.
totally agreed.
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As long as they do shoutouts to me it's all fine
To be truly honest I think people are overeacting a lil' here over such an issue. :\
Before game, maybe few lines. Not necessarily engage lenghty dialogue but few lines to phoney smiles and fake hellos. During match, they need to shut the fuck imo ;) But that has been the case most of the times, during breaks again few lines if needed, but concentrate on filling the details for the crowd. Listeners are your crowd, not the egoistic objects that run around shooting each other.
etpro should make an admin feature, something like shoutcaster, every spect except admin should be muted
mutespecs 1 :D (dont reember if it was cg_, b_ or what, but there is such command)
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admin needs to talk
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They should stfu indeed, in the last EC game, me and ng already told those NV guys that, let's hope they don't forget it.

If I am on a server myself, as OC admin or something, I even unbind T for it :P
seriously, what's the problem? You really think the 'gg' harms someone?
The players and teams are the ones that should be talked about, not the shoutcasters and admins.

Just like Football .. they try to give as less attention as possible to the referees and commentators.

So my answer to the question is ... who cares? honestly.. there's no skill involved in adminning a match or shoutcasting a game, so talk about the players of the game rather than others.
getting so sick of shoutcasters/admins talking:/
esp when those faggots are giving shoutouts
Everyone except the players should shut the fuck up during the game. Ban from admining or shoutcasting if the rule isnt followed.
lol please, over reacting...
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