Who would you vote for?

The outcome of America's presidential election will have profound implications for the world. So what if Crossfire could vote? And why?
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everytime i watched those debates i lolled. mccain is the biggest asslicking fagget i ever seen on tv. how he answers questions is funny, he attacks obama every time and he keeps failing cause hes talking bullshit and doesn't know when to shut up about a title
Second time agree with you :D
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there's no way I'd vote for anyone other than an ass-licking faggot.
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Osama / Binladen

No im just kidding, Obama :>
oO :D who cares?
the republican
Obama by far
BLACK PPL CANT RULE
I highly doubt Obama would make a difference or be different than Bush.
I highly doubt McCain would be ´different from Bush!
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i doubt ANYONE will be different than bush
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well care, as long as the president isnt republican
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See the jew voted for McCain!
Obama promises higher taxes for the 250k+ ahah
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obama since mccain is idiot...
obama becouse he is black like me
Obama/Biden is the lesser of two evils, but I still wouldn't vote if I had the option.

Anyone who would vote for McCain/Palin...with the prospect of Palin becoming President is, with no other way to put it...out of their fucking mind.
ahaha I can see the McCain idiots :DD
Seriously, who would vote for McCain ?
Most of older guys will vote for him, since his values are pretty "old-fashioned" for younger generation,which includes our aged people
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I think he'd be a bad president.

Too old-fashioned / narrow-minded. He wants to continue Irak's war and I'm nearly sure he would say yes for another war in another embarassing country (North Korea? Serbia?). Anyway, he also used (several times) racist terms and I don't really like his tacts of advertising himself (I'm not saying Obama's one is great, but still I think Obama's one is "better" than McCain's one).
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Obama/Biden, he seems to be more clever than McCain and Obama represents new generation,which would win election(s) in next time.
obama, since mc cain seems to conserative for me
Check out this shit: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=NyvqhdllXgU

In the words of George Carlin...some people are really fucking stupid.
+1 for George Carlin
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mcain. cause PALIN is FITTTTTTTTTTT
i wonder how many people choosing the McCain option are both serious and mentally not deficient
obama since mccain is too old and palin too stupid
no it really is GODs will to get the oil from the stupid Arabians :p

hehe she is so wtf dumb b*tch :D
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afaik she also believes in the end days concept in one of the extremist churches.

Lets give her the power to blow up the world please.
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lol she just sais what all the churches want to hear

at one church she goes a bit more extreme then at others...

i really hate her

maybe she should wink some more :p
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the thing is theres a realistic chance mcain will die during his term, making palin head of state. Mcain is just to old and not a child of this time. He lives in the past. Palin is a big joke, whoever chose her as running mate is the worst campaign manager ever.
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heh she does get the most of his followers across though so it wasn't that bad of a choice from their pov... but ye it was an epic stupidity...
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politics is only trash and bullshittalk.
everybody lies to get votes :>
[flag=retard]infect choosing mccain doesn't suprise me
Obama by far
if you vote for McCain there is a high likelyness that Palin will become president as he is like 75 years old.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=C6urw_PWHYk

funny vid there, and fairly true - I wouldnt want her have those keycodes either.
Team america.

MATT DAMON MATT DAMON MATT DAMON

epic xD.
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Obama for sure :]
once i answered for some questions and after it came out i would vote in 67% to maccain and only 33% to obama... donno the url :(
They're both so similar it doesn't really matter how they vote. You can't compare most European nations with USA in political matters. In Europe the span of political ideas is way wider. Most countries have fairly large (~5-10%) left-wing parties and some even still have communist parties while USA only have two ultra right-wing. Even though their debates get pretty heated at times the issues they disagree on aren't significant enough to actually base a real decision on. And that's not even counting the fact that their debates are so little about actual policies and ideologies and more about their personalities and personal history. As people have stated it's a school-book example of picking the lesser of two evils. Someone told me it's like choosing between getting stabbed in the right or left knee but even that's not accurate. I'd go for the left knee any day. A more accurate simile would be for you to choose to be stabbed in your right knee slightly higher or slightly lower.
hellgoat for president!
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In all honesty, I find matters like the war in Iraq or the recreation of the health care system important enough to base a decision on actually.
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There are a lot of states who typically vote republican but the important states with numerous people like california who have a lot of delegates will vote democratic for sure

But obama took certainly a better running mate since biden is experienced in foreign policy and is from pennsylvania and Palin is fucking stupid :DD

Maybe florida will be very decisive again but after fail-Bush , Obama should win this.
+1 for the stupid palin sentence
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mccain is a retard, a retard and again a retard, so obama
the nigga ofcourse but i voted w/e cuz i dont care
bin laden
Like crossfire users know anything about it... jeh they just know Obama = black
More than you... would think.
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Nonix, Nonix, never thought you would make such a stupid generalisation.
You are correct about some here, but some certailny know enough to state their opinion ;x
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I am not joking, I am sure everybody votes because of that
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"everybody" ..
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lets say 70% of the obama voters
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He certainly raised more attention because he is black, causing more people to be interested in his policy, less than leading people to blindly follow him.
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Exactly, I am not saying he is not the right person fo leading USA. But lets say how the votes came easier...
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You really suggesting being black helped him? *bemuzed*
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Do you really think it doesnt ?
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I hope you are talking about in the crossfire vote because that has absolutely nothing to do with why hes leading in the polls right now.
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To be honest with you there are just as many people not voting for him because he is black. It isn't just the south either, I spoke with many in northern USA who had the same view but were more cryptic about it.
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i read a book of him
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I find it funny when people claim that Obama will be the first black president, because not only doesn't it matter what color he is of, he also isn't really black. He is more like hot-chocolate-brown.
agree, but you don't say to a black guy "you look kinda like a hot-chocolate-brown guy", you just say you are black.
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lol brown people are called black
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The latter part was more of a joke really :p
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as long as people vote against him because he is black it will matter he is
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Voting for Obama because he is black!
And blacks deserve to be president !
What our ancestors did to their ancestors ages ago is wrong.

I love black culture ! It's so exotic and wild !

So I even have a black friend, and I often ask him about his African roots and how often does he play african drums while eating animal hearts to get their power, for some reason he never answers :(




Gotta love the middle-class Americans voting for Obama because he's black, innit.
They claim the skin color of the candidate shouldn't change anything, but do they realise more than 40% of his electors probably voted for him because he's "different" than the other candidates?
I still don´t believe that they are able to put a black man to the office.
thats completely retarded thing to say if anything he gets extra votes for being black
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So and so. African-Americans are known for majorly voting Democrat, so as they are one of his target groups he might get that big advantage in that area. Many white people (and I heard first-hand stories about that) who used to vote Democrat are now voting Republican, simply saying they couldn't imagine having a black president.
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Conversely I've seen a lot of reports of blatant overt racists saying they'll vote for Obama, dispite the fact he's "a n****r", because they think the McCain ticket is so bad.
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And he also loses votes because of the same matter
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osama ftw
go mccain!
Palin is hot milf but i rly liek that nigga
I watched the vice-presentational debate, and thought Palin did really well. I think she comes across as the more capable VP candidate. But, McCain is so bad it's not even funny. Would've been interesting if the democrats had went with Obama/Clinton, and what affects that would've had - especially since the republican VP nomination was seen as desperation.
Hah Palin just recited lines, Biden actually put thought into his answers. Give me someone that's slightly gaffe prone (though they're never really bad gaffes) over someone that can't think for themselves & just recites lines. It could've been any actor in Palins place... Biden did what he could given the restraints, check any of his campaign or senate speeches for the real Biden.

We still await Palins first press conference, as promised by the republicans within the first week of her selection...
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http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=OL8JFSBTjbA

Same logic but you wouldn't vote for McCain would you? :D
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While suturing a cut on the hand of a 75-year old Texas rancher whose hand was caught in a gate while working cattle, the doctor struck up a conversation with the old man.

Eventually the topic got around to Sarah Palin and her bid to be a heartbeat away from being President .

The old rancher said, ‘Well, ya know, Palin is a post turtle.’
Not being familiar with the term, the doctor asked him what a post turtle was.

The old rancher said, ‘When you’re driving down a country road and you come across a fence post with a turtle balanced on top, it’s a post turtle.’

The old rancher saw a puzzled look on the doctor’s face, so he continued to explain.

‘You know she didn’t get up there by herself, she doesn’t belong up there, she doesn’t know what to do while she is up there, and you just wonder what kind of dumb ass put her up there to begin with'
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Made me smile :)
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Didn't you notice she kept not answering questions?

I thought she came across well and better than I expected, but when she didn't know what to say she totally changed the topic back to something else, that wasn't related to the question.
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... or to Joe Six-Pack and the hockey-mums :D
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What's worse: changing the subject to something you're knowledgeable about, or killing your campaign with some silly comment? I think it's honourable in a way; it shows she at least has the intellectual-confidence to know when to speak, and shut-up. It's a very fine line, and it borders on negligence - not answering enough questions - but the average American isn't interested in specific policies anyway.

I don't think there's anything wrong with 'admitting' you don't something. Though, doing it explicitly would damage your chances since there's a strange contradiction in American politics; they want a down to earth friendly president who isn't too smart, but admitting specifically why you're not smart kills the campaign. Complete contradiction. Finding the balance is hard, and that's why there's two of them. Palin represents the goals and ideas of some voters (religion, guns, women), and McCain the other (white, business, industry, money).

The Times did a pretty decent article in the magazine yesterday - "Friend or Foe: Sarah Palin has the White House in her sights, and she hasn't taken any prisoners on the way. Christine Toomey talks exclusively to the Alaskans who know the real woman behind the 'hockey mom' veneer." - complete with gun-toting image!
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QuoteWhat's worse: changing the subject to something you're knowledgeable about, or killing your campaign with some silly comment? I think it's honourable in a way; it shows she at least has the intellectual-confidence to know when to speak, and shut-up. It's a very fine line, and it borders on negligence - not answering enough questions - but the average American isn't interested in specific policies anyway.


It pains me to see a Brit talk like this :( that’s the point, her knowledge appears so limited it’s excruciating. She didn’t fall back on something she’s knowledgeable on, she spouted some rhetoric, told some irrelevant story, recited a talking point. Great Sarah, you can remember the talking point – now tell me what that means, what you’d do, why you’d do that, what you think the impact would be socially, economically, globally – anything, please, Sarah, anything.

QuoteI don't think there's anything wrong with 'admitting' you don't something. Though, doing it explicitly would damage your chances since there's a strange contradiction in American politics; they want a down to earth friendly president who isn't too smart, but admitting specifically why you're not smart kills the campaign. Complete contradiction. Finding the balance is hard, and that's why there's two of them. Palin represents the goals and ideas of some voters (religion, guns, women), and McCain the other (white, business, industry, money).

Nobody expects her to know everything. Just wish she knew something… or at least articulated that she does.

QuoteThe Times did a pretty decent article in the magazine yesterday - "Friend or Foe: Sarah Palin has the White House in her sights, and she hasn't taken any prisoners on the way. Christine Toomey talks exclusively to the Alaskans who know the real woman behind the 'hockey mom' veneer." - complete with gun-toting image!

Also an article in the Spectator you’d probably appreciate ;) “You have to pinch yourself – a Marxisant radical who all his life has been mentored by, sat at the feet of, worshipped with, befriended, endorsed the philosophy of, funded and been in turn funded, politically promoted and supported by a nexus comprising black power anti-white racists, Jew-haters, revolutionary Marxists, unrepentant former terrorists and Chicago mobsters, is on the verge of becoming President of the United States. And apparently it’s considered impolite to say so”
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+ * your absolutely right
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Not to forget that McCain is 72, he has been handicapped for roughly 40 years. Chances are fairly high Palin needs to take over government and I really don't see in a postition like that.
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About 1 in 20, statistically speaking, assuming he only remains in office for one term.
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I emphasise with her and the republicans strategy but it doesn't mean I agree with it. But, I do think she articulated her experience very well compared to the others. The voters which she's after are swayed by the 'homely' rhetoric, and she does her job - albeit phoney and shallow - very well.
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Better than the black man, born to an immigrant family etc etc... or Biden talking about his wife during the debates?
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Palin was no way as solid in her answers as Biden was. She was just as populist as Mr. John "Hello my friends" McCain was in the presidential debate. Everything would've been an improvement after her disastrous interview appearance. I was lucky to see these two debates while I was in America and I didn't even understand why the news station declared her the winner. Biden was much more the VP that America needed. He was humble, yet knowledgable.
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There was a epic moment were Biden took of his coat when he talked about the fact McCain didnt look obama in the eye when he had smth to say to him and that wasnt the way it went down were he came from etc. You need such a guy for intimidation purposes :DDD
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Palin is brainless bitch and McCain isn't any wiser. Obama seems to be really intelligent and nice man, just what USA needs.
dunZ McCain / Palin

says it all
With a great power comes a great responsibility!

Obama 4 sho!
Generic Care / Abstain / Whatever
black power, go
Obama is nazier than he pretends :>

he will still win if nothing happens :(

both choices are failure anyway ( like it was in France ).
Obama for sure.
1. clean energy versus mccain's drill baby drill
2. education & science
3. internet views
3. he's an academic background (and very smart!) as opposed to mccain's military background
exactly i don't think they need his "lets go into iran" kinda mentality. And he does seem to the smarter candidate. And besides all that imagine having Palin run the nation if he were to pass away during is term.
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*"let's bomb iraq"
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you really think that obama will change anything?
he will loose his illusions in the white house. lobbys > presidents
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Whether he'll do anything or not, at least he is the better president in my opinion.
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having a millitary background also mean you are intellegent

to command over people underpressure
solve problems
to plane

i saw how smart people break under the pressure while less "smart" people with millitary background did not fail

which prove, that experience > all the diplomas and papers you can get :~>
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For sure, but that only applies for "under pressure" situations.
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haha :D

well, im sure being the strongest man on Earth, president of america isnt pressure at all !

btw quad, now that you are back, when will we see the new etpro?

and i dont care who will elected, as long as he will be good for jews :o)
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who said i'm back? and i'm still busy :)
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I just read somewhere, few years and US population will be less than 50% white.
Yeah, those niggers are shagging like rabbits.
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AHHHAHHHAAHAHA
YOU ARE GOING TO HELL
AHHAHAHAHAHAHA
Still, you made my day, thanks :DD
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Actually it will be the Latinos, not the black that will make up the bigger %. And afaik it's more like a few decades, not years.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_the_United_States#Projections
There, 2050, 46% white, 30% Hispanic. Of course that is assuming that immigration will keep going like it is atm.
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Which it won't with a nazi like McCain in charge :XD
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what s the sens of this kind of votes?
how can a person who isn t living in the USA, get an opinion about it?


the things u r only seeing at the media visions, is not the entire happaned...




stupid vote
I'd actually say we get less media bias here than the Americans, We don't have to deal with divisive campaign ads and overtly partisan news media (with respect to the American parties, at any rate). Generally as a non-American we're more likely to see merely the facts with analysis of the candidates' actual policies, as opposed to a whole world of spin, since nobody has any reason to spin to us as we're not voting.
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can anyone give me the general (different/same) goals both obama and mccain are promising? need for school :P
I don't know shit about the 2 candidates all I know is that half of the crossfire users will vote for obama since he's a black panda.
If Obama is going to win, is the white house going to be renamed to Blackhouse?

Joke :D

Obama for sure.
150.000$ for clothes and haircuts did palin spend.


she can handle our moneyz
is no-one else a bit concerned his name rhymes with OSAMA! after the creepy terrorist sneaked away somewhere and was never seen again? coincedence? i think not!!!! conspiracy theory please :>
I'm more concerned about Barack HUSSAIN Obama. I've not seen that HUSSAIN character with his weapons of mass destruction around recently.
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exactly. somethings just not right here.....

ive not seen the like since steve hitler ran for president.
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if i was a american: obama
as a european: mccain
agreed, at least us germans never drove that good with the democratic presidents
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I really don't like Obama's protectionist policies, so to that extent I think your analysis is accurate, however I think if you look at the global, rather than European/American picture Obama would be the better choice, and I think that's the right perspective to take.
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obama, didnt like pr0npalins porn
obama bing laiden
Not Palin, that's for sure, so Obama. Palin is a useless tool.
Stfu cancer idiot
McCain if he wouldn't have picked Palin.
Polite discussion intended: Why?
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He only cares about winning the election but not about the future as there were many more capable candidates than Palin.
He only chose her for being a woman and not the politician she is. The possibility of having such a stupid fuck as president...no way.
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I meant, why vote for McCain, not why not vote for Palin.
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I liked his straight talk on the future of the US auto industry. defending free trade instead of building barriers to save jobs. restrain competition will only backfire on workers and consumers.
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he chose her because she's 1) a woman (hillary-voters) and because she's a religious conservative... and he needs the support from this group... those who would rather see mike huckabee as republican presidential candidate.

palin and her hypocritical, obsolete views are already reason enough not to vote mccain.
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Palin is hot, so McCain



not rly..





Obama ofc
Abstain.

As if America has a real democracy.

Anyhow... It's going to be Obama. Black people always have to clean up the mess of the white. Has been for hundreds of years, and continues to be so.
"Black people always have to clean up the mess of the white" ???? WHAT ??? flameoff
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nigger lover.
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Terrorist would like McCain to be president cos then the U.S. army would stay at middle east and you know what? That is exactly what the terrorists want :)
LOOOOOOOL HAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA WTF ROOOOOFLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
i think mccain is a great person in private, i cant agree to his political agenda tho. obama is much more future oriented.
Would definitely be a harder decision if it wasn't for Palin, I don't know what they were thinking on that one. But regardless, I think Obama is what the country needs more right now.
2 radical statements but I think they're true

-black people vote for obama because he is black, if he had Mccains ideas and speeches they would vote for him anyway, for many reasons... ( MOST of them, not all ofc I dont have any racist ideas myself :( ( jews arent a race, they're bugs )

-Loads of "other" people would vote for him only because of a few sentences and reputations they heard, and because it's always easier to defend a left-wing candidate "lol I'm not selfish look I'm with a democrat" than a right-wing one, although the right-wing has most of the time the most "realistic" considerations.
I didnt study both candidates ( not their programs, which mean absolutely nothing, mind, the candidates themselves ) so I can't be sure it works for them, but there is probably some truth in this...

Now you can call me an ugly racist selfish jerk :~>
i believe there are more people who vote against him cause he is black then who vote for him cause he is black
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I'm pretty sure not, lots of black people in US are very poor and not educated at all, and probably know nothing about him, but they have the choice between a "bush follower" and a "black guy", who would they vote for ?

People who vote "for" Mccain kind are people who would vote "against" black people anyway, so theres no consequence in your point :p
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That's pretty ignorant. Historically around 90% of black voters have supported the democratic candidate. And Obama is getting even less than that according to the polls so there is really no connection.
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LOOOOOOOL HAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA WTF ROOOOOFLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
he didn't really say this did he XD ?
I could care less, because all politics are douchebags.


BUT

IF STEVEN COLBERT WAS RUNNING FOR PRES AND IF I COULD VOTE, I WOULD VOTE FOR HIM.
If obama is president, I predict another assassination.

If McCain is president, I predict no change.


lol @ tranix

My left nut can run a better democracy if mccain is elected
My faith in the crossfire population has been restored a bit
Obama.

The thought of Palin becoming president scares me. Not only I think she is stupid, as in really stupid, after seeing her videos, and listening to what is she saying, but also her religious background is batshit crazy, her husband as a member or political party which wanted Alaska independence and more so called dirt that appeared in 1 month. And all that from a simple hockey mom? Yeah right. Loekino as ruler of the internet would make as much sense.

The "dirt" on Obama compared to that is ridicilous. Just saying he's paling arround with terrorists is priceless. Muslim, terrorist, not citizen, osama....and people belive that... If that's the biggest things that McCain campaign can come up with, then Obama has to be a normal guy.

If McCain would be running with different VP I still would be for Osama, however I wouldn't be much concerned if he'd won.

Also of course I think Obama would be a great president, his orator skills are like mAus aiming, he seems very inteligent and capable of beeing quite good president.

+ it's always nice to see proper journalism in america like in this example - http://www.wftv.com/video/17790025/index.html
+1 Loekino ;-)

QuoteAlso of course I think Obama would be a great president, his orator skills are like mAus aiming, he seems very intelligent and capable of being quite good president.

I agree with this sentence even more, than the about Loekino's logic = Palin's Logic
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http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=OIT3jUrNTX0


biden is brilliant. oh wait, hes not.



btw fuzz


QuoteIf McCain would be running with different VP I still would be for Osama, however I wouldn't be much concerned if he'd won.

Also of course I think Obama would be a great president, his orator skills are like mAus aiming, he seems very inteligent and capable of beeing quite good president.




just making fun man <3
Obama will make color TV stealing legal!
i hoep obama will win, but it will be the question. How racist is America nowadays? What does the american vote when he is alone and can vote and noone can see his vote...
they have already uncovered 2 plots to kill obama. So, thats 2 before hes even elected president.
Where did you see that at? =| Not meaning like "wtf thats retarded" but like "I'm interested' so you dont misunderstand me D:
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http://news.aol.com/story/_a/feds-disrupt-skinhead-plot-to/n20081027172909990023


gonna have to look for another one, it was a slightly different story about high schoolers.
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i would have voted for that ron paul guy.

i think that was his name
:D The most libertarian nazi I've ever seen :p
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I think that Obama is more clever than Palin or Mccain i didnt hear about the biden guy so i did the "care" vote
Obama > McCain + Palin
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"bouncer has replied to your comment"

MORE DELETE
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Well i dont like either -,- And i think McCain gonna win.
If Obama is going to win, I think he will be the new Kennedy and probally getting killed, I think the south of America wont accept a black president.

lets hope not
lets hope not.
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McCain= 4 more years of the same Bushshit we have now. Obvious choice isn't brain surgery & election will be a landslide. (will look pretty similar to this polls results)
+1 Bushshit =D
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noone, they lie like always
like every politics
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Fuck Obama.. If he comes president every fuckin rättipää goes USA and USA will take hes soldiers and BOOM! there comes 3rd World War :( Hes muslim so thats why
McCain.

Obama is black... and we are not searchin a president for the republic of congo.
hello hillbilly
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how mane rapsongs about obama will they gonna do if he is going to win ?
i just read that and lolled :D
[ ] McCain / Palin
[ ] Obama / Biden
[ ] Other
[ ] Generic Care / Abstain / Whatever
[x] Doesn't matter, it wont change anything anyways.
that's a bit pessimistic

it's true that people shouldnt expect the world to live peacefully and the economy to start working or anything, but it seems to me that there is a significant difference between the candidates
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significant difference?
where?
Party programms are unimportant, cause if they are once President anything will be done in a diffrent way anyway. In the end the same club of rich man will profit, no matter who will win.
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That igloo guy has already proven that he's really naive and stupid several times...
Joe the Plumber.
it's awesome how european loves obama :o
Palin ofc
turd sandwich vs giant douche.
:)
well, in fact you're a turd sandwich
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you dident get the allusion to south park gtfo troll :D
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i did, i thought the douche said that to the turd :P
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No, You're actually a turd sandwich.
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well im exchange student this year in US and its fun watch that debats..... and another stuff around that
Me too, Virginia Tech. Rules!!!
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they are all fucking assholes that will never keep their word just like all fucking people before them so why do you bother?
why do i read always osama bin laden?
sorry to say, but mccain is new president.
I'd vote for McCain...
but politics sucks anyways..
like it really matters ...
i liked obama in the beginning..but now that hype about him is sooo fucking pissing me off noooo thx, i would vote for mc cain now
If Obama wins there is no choice; call the Klansmen
my vote goes for
go MCCAIN go!!
Obama / Biden
over 9000 hours late
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I'm back :(
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