No PB/GV at NC & EC - Good or Bad? | Polls | Crossfire

dont care since it will be only EC & NC

yup

Its a good desicion but I think for OC, PB should be off if both teams agree.

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Yep.

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+1

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idd

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wise man spoke

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Lowest EC and lowest NC

Lowest PB/GV so who cares?

Its a good desicion but I think for OC, PB should be off if both teams agree.

if its disabled, what cheat protection we got then?

what cheat protections do we got if its enabled?
nonekkthxbye

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better then nothing

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none = nothing

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well so without any protection you can just use whatever you want :)

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pb brings in less than nothing
it not only cant prevent people from cheating, but also causes lags to give those who are not cheating a hard time

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i think ur just selling tons of crap m8 ....

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great argument

keep up the good work

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pb brings in less than nothing
it not only cant prevent people from cheating, but also causes lags to give those who are not cheating a hard time

PB hasnt CAUGHT 1 hacker in this year

ur so right

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who cares about all those public/random irc busts????

pb cant detect shit, it detects bots which are from ages ago and totally obvious
even the most stupid guy can say that someone is playing with those bots

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ill quote

"NICE ARGUMENT"

now gtfo with ur stupid excuses

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im sorry but it seems like u cant divine an argument from an excuse

i said: pc cant detect shit because bla bla bla

how is that an excuse?

and please stop attacking me verbally
if u cant, stop replying to me

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because its full or rubbish what ur talking about? if noone would ever be caught by pb, ok, drop it

give me proof that not 1 cheater has been caught due to pb/gv in the last 3 months

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i never said that people dont get caught by pb
pb detects some hax which are old as shit

i said that no one cares about those puplic/random irc busts who get caught because there are using a detected bot

there are enough bots which are not detected by pb and free to use

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ty, so using PB does have its point, if its only 1 that is getting caught!

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no, it has no point, because the one guy that gets caught is by no meaning in due proportion to the thousands of guys having lags which make the game unplayable

i would rather play a nexus cheater than having those fps lags which pb is causing

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maybe for u

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it does for half of the community
the other half is lucky to be spared

but although pb makes no sense, the non-laggy-half is so fast letting the laggy-half down by keeping pb enabled that it almost hurts to call it a community

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every xiiter would play ladder if its disabled there, aint that easy to play ec from nowhere

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cmon man
lets face it
pb cant do shit against cheaters
there are enough cheaters in ec/oc who are still playing while pb is enabled
what a fucking difference does it make?
none!

it just causes lags, thats it

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they payed for it, i guess you wont find a nexus user in ec

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PB should be disabled everywhere.

PB should be enabled everywhere.

GV should be disabled everywhere.

wonder why oc trash cares so much about this

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lol fuck u

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ensam for president.

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yea would be awesome if it got disabled from OC you know. and from ladders ofc at least if both teams agreed on it

dont care about EC/NC since I am not there :)))))))) but i think its best for everyone to play without it even against cheaters

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Get a proper replacement for PB. SIMPLE.

i actually could get another anti-cheat for OC, but unless i get a group of testers i cannot just force it, it won't happen. (might lag, might have issues, might not work, normal stuff) remember OC has a userbase of 1000+ players, very risky.

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there was some ac that took screenshots and bunch of people from here tried it but it doesnt support linux, though neither does pb so its kinda +-0.

would be less laggy though.

it was named something like slgac or sglac or something.

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sounds like X-RAY (doesn't support linux aswell) so we can't really use it, what i had in mind is UAC (UAC - Universal Anticheat) one of the admins of that anti-cheat is a C&A Assistant so it would be a bit easier to set it up for OC, it works on all games & mostly was is used in SWAT4 and was also used for CoD last season. X-RAY isn't a bad idea, but from CoD2/4 ppl, they said it lags.

UAC site: http://uac2.com/

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yeah i think it was x-ray, sglac was somehow related.

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being a cod4 player myself, i haven't experienced any lags from x-ray AT ALL.

since you don't have to upload the screenshots until after the match.

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since it scans your computer it should generate lag, maybe it depends on the pc specs or internet

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running cod4 on 250fps
et on 125 fps

yet i have more lag on ET

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ye i have the same, 125 on ET & 250 on CoD4, have you ever played an ET war with PB off? makes so much difference, feels so smooth and much accurate to aim :p

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I SURELY AGREE BRO :DDDDDDDDDDDDD

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never noticed any lag with xray when i used it for css.

my cheatcoder friend says its like the easiest ac to bypass though

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that's true, pansemuckl once said in a newpost that even anti3 (coded in 1 week) was harder to crack than X-Ray lol

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You should probably do that! When its tested enough, you can easily replace it.
But you just cant play without pb dude ... thats insane.

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Its a good desicion but I think for OC, PB should be off if both teams agree.

PB should be disabled everywhere:

Finally.

PB should be enabled everywhere.

as long as u dont take random polak teams in EC, it's a good decision

like you care, you roll everyone anyway : )

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PB should be disabled everywhere.

GV should be disabled, PB should be for like 10 mins in a server or so and than they shut it down :P so any cheaters pb could detect will be kicked before it goes off :P

whoever you are (0 days) you are quite smart, we planned to start all GTV Servers with PB enabled config first after everyone is ready, then switch to no-pb cfg.

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I thought that a server needs a restart :oooo

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as soon as you callvote the non-pb config it will just reset the config and load up without PB, no need for server restarts, not even loading the map again afaik

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approved

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I allways need to do /rcon pw quit & then load the non pb config. If the pb config was on.

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Then u are using a different way to disable PB :P

pb_sv_disable
pb_sv_restart

does the trick ^^

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i dunno who you are either :P but thanks :P

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nice nick

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Off if neither team complains about it, everywhere, but a replacement should be found asap.

Its a good desicion but I think for OC, PB should be off if both teams agree.

PB should be disabled everywhere.

edit: PB doesn't hold off the cheaters with private bots (like most?) anyway, so I prefer playing an overall more enjoyable and smooth game where I don't rage about annoying and unexpected lags.

I don't think many will agree with me, but at least do one thing. Disable that horrible streaming.

PB should be enabled by default until both teams agree to remove it in:
- NC, remember the portugal case, yes top teams are skilled and known, but there're many random retards aswell :S
- OC, some decent teams might be interested in removing it and ofc it should be enabled if you're playing some noname randoms
Streaming should be disabled everywhere

Streaming +1

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ok, every time i read your name i get head ache... is your name spell as Hateme? or Home or wtf

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"homo"

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ok, every time i read your name i get head ache... is your name spell as caretpala? or "black coloured ala" or wtf

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ye go fuckyourself

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brb :))))#)

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Jesus fuck, you cf admins are seriously shit in making polls. Is there anything you actually do good as an admin here?

banning

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Up until a few days ago I would said it was a bad idea but since i've been having stupid problems with pb it's probably a good idea.

Tbh I would just go for 'PB can be off anywhere, just if both teams agree' like we were using till now, but it wasnt really official so I understand why it changed now.

'PB may be used if both teams agree is just plain stupid tho, if I'm playing vs random people of who I think they might hack, I could ask them to play with PB, but do you really think they are ok with that? :X
Although I'm always forgetting that this only applies to NC and EC, and I'm not playing that anyway + I hope there wont be these randoms like from my example in there either :P

Is this #cheatinvites?

PB doesn't cause enough lag to warrant its removal

where is the antipro option?

in the future

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i hate cheaters, but im starting to hate pb even more. PB is a bigger nuissance then a cheater whos trying to hide it, because with or without pb he will find a way to cheat and without pb atleast you have a chance to kill him without lagging out. And besides, the community is small enough that you know most of the players you play against or atleast played them before.

don't be such a baby, christ.

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why do you crucify me like that, jezus christ...

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cos u act like a baby: "boohoo naughty PB gives me lag.It has nothing to do with my shitty computer or my bad internet connection, it's all PB, boohoo :<"

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first off, i was making a joke. And yes my pc is pretty ancient, but i can run CoD 4 at 40 fps and oblivion at medium settings at 30fps. Yet ET with pb and vent gives me an unstable 30-40. PunkbusterB is actually taking up 20-30% of my cpu speed most of the time. Taking all that into account, I'm pretty confident that its mainly pb and not my (indeed shitty) computer. So since when is stating on opinion based on experience "acting like a baby?". (antipro = smooth for me)

What did i ever do to you btw?

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the question should be

"why did I even reply to you?"

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You did nothing to me, this is just the way I always respond to this anti-PB crap. Your reply was simply the only one I've read.

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Its not crap, I just hate playing with 25 fps and since pb stopped supporting ET I don't see why we would keep using it for games with known players. You could have said something in a less offensive tone for the sake of our e-friendship :p

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I thought you would appreciate my honesty and bluntness ;-p

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I usually do, but pb is a touchy subject to me :)

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The point is the following:
Ive been playing ET for some years now.
Although my PC is not the most recent one, I still could get 125 fps stable back in the days and had no lags at all.

Now, ET didn't change, neither did my PC, the only thing that changed was PB.

Lets consider the changes now:
Did anything change to prevent guys from cheating in any way other from ancient hacks which are known for a decade?

NO!
It only causes more and more lags and makes the game unplayable for half CF.
PBSS can still be fooled in every possible way.

Now, I don't see why I should buy a new PC to play a 6-year-old game, which my PC could handle easily wouldn't there be PB which sits on its ass, doing nothing but eating memory.
Also not everyone can spend thousands on new hardware any other day.

I am still playing cheaters every day, the only difference would be that I would have a bigger chance beating them, because I could actually try aiming.

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Yes, your computer doesn't deteriorate at all as the years pass by. Haha, if you're gonna talk bullshit, please use your mom to ventilate it at, not me. Thanks.

And yeah, PB has changed stuff over the years. Quite a few things actually, but they're not wizards and cheatcoders usually change a few things which make it untraceable again.

Then again, I'd advice you to check the banpage on Clanbase. I bet you can't even count the amount of players that got banned thanks to PB.

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QuoteHaha, if you're gonna talk bullshit, please use your mom to ventilate it at, not me. Thanks.

What are u referring to?

PB are no wizards as u said, but they were fast to let ET down.
Anyway...

You got a point by saying that a lot been banned from ESL/CB, but as I said before, the amount of guys that get caught is by no meaning in due proportion to the thousands of guys having lags, which make the game unplayable for even more guys..

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refering to this part:

kazzam on 27/11/09, 21:23:46 PM | Reply

The point is the following:
Ive been playing ET for some years now.
Although my PC is not the most recent one, I still could get 125 fps stable back in the days and had no lags at all.

Now, ET didn't change, neither did my PC, the only thing that changed was PB.

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I don't understand how u classify this as bullshit :P
Was just making a statement that ET's been working perfect until PB has been changed.

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Your pc deteriorates over the years. Quite a lot actually. Just like with everything you use in real life, your computer also wears out :-)

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I'm not that into hardware but I cant really believe that :D
Theres nothing mechanical inside my PC but the fans, the HDD and the CD drive.

How can it wear out?

Other than that, stop just half of my comments =/
I write half an essay and u just reply to one sentence all the time =<

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I'm not interested to have the same discussion over and over again so I only respond to the stuff which are blatantly wrong.

Your computer gets worse over the years due to heat, dust, harddisks are also only designed to last ~3 years, RAM functions less good with each passing year, software gets more demanding (windows with dozens of updates for example) slows your pc down, etc etc.

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Its a good desicion but I think for OC, PB should be off if both teams agree.

need antipro

+ portugal + pb
- portugal - pb

PB should be enabled everywhere.

The most stupid CB decision ever.
Now you are free to use detected bots ages ago by PB.
PB should be enabled everywhere its the only reliable anticheat we have.

detected bots from ages ago are freaking and unbelieveably obvious, such as icebot and invoke, so don't be stupid

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Won't stop them from cheating, especially considering you only need to delete 1 file to start anew in ET.

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we,, if there is anyone to be smart enough to use it on an EC match with ETTV and admins, well, i must say, genius

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Next season EC will only attract lowskill teams anyway.

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then it's a nice way to improve the skill and entertain the views

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whats stopping cheaters from cheating as it is?

also, whats reliable in pb?

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whats stopping cheaters from cheating as it is?

PB

It doesn't catch everyone, but then again, nothing does.

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so if its stopping cheaters, why are players quitting ET because of cheaters?

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And now read my reply completely.

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dont care about rules, i will play without pb anyways

lets prac like masculine mans and get pro like them :))))))))0 24/7 :PPPPPPPP

np: Zwart Licht - wat sorry

disable pb, then they can play with public cheats again

hey.....ummm......... FUCK PB! :D

i dont care..if both teams agree than they can do whatever they want..if they dont agree than no ..

Portugal go the final, this year <3

PB on we still need it

It's good	31.1 % (265 votes)
PB should be disabled everywhere	23.1 % (197 votes)
PB should be enabled everywhere	20.9 % (178 votes)
Dno / Dont care...	24.9 % (212 votes)

Thompson	35.2 % (19 votes)
MP40	64.8 % (35 votes)


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