Wolfenstein - Enemy Territory

Do you agree with the latest decision regarding trick jumping on supply?

by chosen • 14 Jul 2010, 10:53 • Polls
With the ClanBase Summer Cup ready to start, a new improvement has been made for the lately released beta configs.

As for the past most decisions have been made to make it easier for the attacking side to reach the objective. Now, as supply has shown to be a full hold map on recent events, it becomes even worse for the attackers as their freedom in creativity and space to infiltrate the last stage has become less ET-ish and less fast paced. You can compare this decision to disallowing the wall jump on oasis in the past.

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It's a good thing to keep the ways as the map was ment to be. There is no point in allowing an easy to go jump which doesn't take you a second to do and which doesn't result in a long way in compared to others.

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24.3 %
(355 votes)
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gambit 14 Jul 2010, 11:54
second vote and first comment - way to start a day!
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Suyodhana 14 Jul 2010, 11:56
Retard...
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gambit 14 Jul 2010, 12:03
lets settle this like men, join the crossfire ventrilo and speak up again where it counts. ill kick your fucking ass
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Suyodhana 14 Jul 2010, 12:05
Go play with your imaginary cards... You won't stand a chance if i will come...
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gambit 14 Jul 2010, 12:05
im waiting.
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Suyodhana 14 Jul 2010, 12:20
As much as i would enjoy, trolling you infront of others... I'm sorry tell you, that I'm at work... image: logo

Better luck next time, fucker!

image: trollface
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HansoO 14 Jul 2010, 12:32
wo bisse denn?
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gambit 14 Jul 2010, 12:33
arbeiten :(
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grd 14 Jul 2010, 20:06
da macht er neue freunde der gambizzle
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chaoZ 29 Jul 2010, 17:16
OCRANA -*~=~*- MIKEEEE_JUNGE
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chaoZ 22 Jul 2010, 08:33
der fette hurensohn macht sich neue freunde..
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gambit 22 Jul 2010, 08:48
8:30 geekt er auf kreuzfeuer!
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Suyodhana 14 Jul 2010, 11:54
FIRST VOTE, SECOND COMMENT! image: trollface
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Sample 14 Jul 2010, 11:55
No, it's a bad change.
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j4CK 14 Jul 2010, 11:56
what happened ?
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Neca 14 Jul 2010, 11:56
Bad change. WTF
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AnnieMac 14 Jul 2010, 11:57
No, it's a bad change.
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ironic 14 Jul 2010, 11:58
What happened?
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Neca 14 Jul 2010, 12:01
ge kunt nie meer over main tjen...
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ironic 14 Jul 2010, 12:01
kon ik toch al niet :o) Hebben ze die steen weggehaald fzo?

http://www.crossfire.nu/?x=forum&mode=item&id=33654
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Enigma 14 Jul 2010, 14:37
nee, ze hebben een hidden box geplaatst die zorgt dat je niet de lucht in gaat maar door valt..
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ironic 14 Jul 2010, 14:42
haha bruut xD
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jalo 14 Jul 2010, 11:58
No, it's a bad change.
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niSmO 14 Jul 2010, 11:58
No, it's a horrendously shit change.
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Alphi 14 Jul 2010, 11:59
No, it's a bad change.
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tMuhh 14 Jul 2010, 12:01
No, it's a very shit change.
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Suyodhana 14 Jul 2010, 12:01
It will make room for more image: trollface tactics...
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VerSus 14 Jul 2010, 12:01
No, its a shit change.
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Nub 14 Jul 2010, 12:02
Good decision
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mama 14 Jul 2010, 12:06
wont be a big change so #care
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slajdan 14 Jul 2010, 12:08
I dont realy have any opinion about it except for 2 things:

1. It should be decided by a community vote rather than a small group of friends.

2. If it is gonna be done, let someone that knows how to actually script properly do it, seeing a random hp/ammo tray placed there by mister harley davidson is kind of annoying x-)
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Clown 14 Jul 2010, 12:18
My fix didn't have such things, it was 4 invisble box corners coming out of the rock to sort of form spikes, that don't lift you up when you hit them. Dunno what they have done to the script if there's an ammo cabinet there...
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slajdan 14 Jul 2010, 12:36
okay but I'd rather see the stone just either removed or replaced, invisible anti-cranecontrolblowupbug box is more than merry on that map :-p
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rahula 14 Jul 2010, 12:38
I'm not exactly sure what you mean, but does it prevent the two man stack to jump the main gate you can do? At least, if I remember correctly, you only need two people for that, making it legal.
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carlito 14 Jul 2010, 13:00
yep you only need 2 and it does not prevent it as you can see here.

image: v8da85
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suVi 14 Jul 2010, 12:27
that hp ammo tray was a troll :D
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Sungi 14 Jul 2010, 12:12
why did evo get a say in this? hes lower than my grandma and more stupid than a rock
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sac 15 Jul 2010, 16:22
D: second one is gold
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son1c 14 Jul 2010, 12:35
image: 319047856_dbf1ef3e92

bullshit change ...
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w0nd3r 14 Jul 2010, 12:36
don't beat about the bush...
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rahula 14 Jul 2010, 12:36
I'm actually kinda for it.
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vib 14 Jul 2010, 12:42
The players which made that decision should stand for it explaining why they decided to make that change.
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Loekino 14 Jul 2010, 12:46
trickjumping has been a big part in ET every since it got out, dunno who came up with this rule but what the fuck is wrong with you
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mini 14 Jul 2010, 12:49
Need a "Don't care" option.
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Loekino 14 Jul 2010, 13:08
cause you play world of lolcraft
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mini 14 Jul 2010, 13:13
No, I don't :$
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Loekino 14 Jul 2010, 13:15
hon, welcome to the elite xd
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walle 14 Jul 2010, 12:52
i think its not bad tbh

never really liked that tbh

and ppl who whine can still boost from that so hf jumping over it if its such a big deal for u
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knnk 14 Jul 2010, 13:19
totally agree with u
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Roach 15 Jul 2010, 01:21
Ok so basicly a bunch of bum bandits don't like a certain feature in a game so they all come together at a fairy party and decide that they are able to dictate how everyone else should comply with what they think is best.

I just have two words for these people. FUCK OFF.
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walle 15 Jul 2010, 01:25
I agree you there!
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Ince 14 Jul 2010, 13:30
"Now, as supply has shown to be a full hold map on recent events"

somehow i fail to see that :/ , fullholds were more likely in 6o6 but now its much easier to attack then to defend.
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drago 14 Jul 2010, 14:05
Magic trampoline jump :-)
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Sungi 14 Jul 2010, 14:24
There is no point in allowing an easy to go jump which doesn't take you a second to do and which doesn't result in a long way in compared to others.

hey I have an idea.

Lets remove main gate instead. There is no point in allowing an easy route which doesnt take you a second to go through and is slower than the trickjump
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Thomm 14 Jul 2010, 14:25
Good. If there is a wall, you aren´t supposed to jump over it.
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Enigma 14 Jul 2010, 14:43
not anyone is able to jump over it, and the creator did not fix that jump in for example supplydepot2, after supply was released. So he prolly used that jump for a reason (+ its a nice way to attack without being fullheld easily)
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walle 14 Jul 2010, 17:41
maybe build a ladder or something nicer than a rock where u need to bounce up
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Enigma 14 Jul 2010, 14:43
shit change
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Havoc 14 Jul 2010, 14:48
Bad change, some people mastered it, just be left as it can sometimes prove to be beneficial.
Not as many can do the trickjump as you think too
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crook 14 Jul 2010, 14:57
Not a bad change imo. You can still jump east or west if you like to surprised the opponent. Only the freeloading jump got removed.
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TosspoT 14 Jul 2010, 14:57
Why did you make this poll chosen? You know the answer before you even post it
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Rickk 14 Jul 2010, 15:01
Maybe's he just want to see the commite getting flamed!
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sHEv 14 Jul 2010, 16:39
well it's obvious he wants the community to say what they think, whats wrong?. this "comitte" is bullshit.
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Loekino 14 Jul 2010, 16:57
do something about this, you are the man with power:(
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Cancel 14 Jul 2010, 14:57
What happened?

im trying do this tj for 6 months and cant do it :<
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baq 14 Jul 2010, 14:58
No, it's a bad change:
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eVo 14 Jul 2010, 15:05
The map was never designed to have people trick jumping the wall as far as i'm concerned, i have 4 players in Impact who can and do do it and still i think it should be removed. Boost your players over the rock at main or west or jump the east rock if its such an issue to you.
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FrankenFish 14 Jul 2010, 15:38
wat? 4 ?
You can learn that jump in 1 sec ...
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sHEv 14 Jul 2010, 16:42
what a dumb statement eVo :/

Many maps aren't designed to have people trick jumping a wall/window/rock, tho TJ is just part of the game. Can't believe you are saying such a statement.
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eVo 14 Jul 2010, 16:45
Everyone has their opinion on it, i am not massively in favour either way but i do think that the jump removes part of the gameplay of that stage which is to break down a defence through east wall, west wall or main
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suVi 14 Jul 2010, 21:03
and a good spawntime fucks up the game totally for the other side
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Roach 15 Jul 2010, 01:11
Please read what you wrote again and you might realize how it stupid it is.
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Bluman 15 Jul 2010, 13:32
yeah ofc its not designed for that but for some reason its still there (and is in other versions aswell) and i wonder what for that little rock is at west side? it has nothing real meaning its just a boosting rock...
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overboost 15 Jul 2010, 14:09
QuoteBoost your players over the rock

image: 0312-OSING-Trololo_full_600
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wubskis 14 Jul 2010, 15:10
vote randomly

post random comment
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biggz 14 Jul 2010, 15:20
How many different ways are there to get over the supply walls anyway?

Boost west, jump east rock (x3 different ways), boost main, trick-jump main rock (x2 ways), trick-jump main gate team door (x1 way)?...

I don't really see why leaving it as is is an issue... whether someone boosts or trick-jumps they are still gaining the same advantage using either method and it is often one of those moves that assists in breaking crossfire setups.

Oh wait nah.. let's give Tosspot and co more Supply full holds to shout-cast and remove all dynamic game-play elements from maps.
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pwet 14 Jul 2010, 15:21
just delete supply from the maplist
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Deactivated5587 14 Jul 2010, 15:27
cant do them, so care
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Nickk 14 Jul 2010, 15:45
they seriously made main jump impossible but left the east jump (and crane controls one) intact?

great job, really something to be proud of

+it's not like it's the easiest jump ever, unlike for example wall jump on oasis or east jump
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Nickje 15 Jul 2010, 08:12
waar zijde gij gebleven? :o
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GoodGuyGary 14 Jul 2010, 15:57
QuoteNow, as supply has shown to be a full hold map on recent events

????????????????????????????????????????????

I have never seen a doubt fullhold on supply in 5on5, and I have only seen a 15minute defense in some overload match
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Boss 14 Jul 2010, 16:00
Its a retarded decision
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Jimriniho 14 Jul 2010, 16:15
kingofmycastle Yes, good decision
Kama Yes, good decision
Krosan Yes, good decision
Jere Yes, good decision
Yossarian Yes, good decision
AM1G0 Yes, good decision
Lo0SeR Yes, good decision
aSmOgAn Yes, good decision
slajdan Yes, good decision
snailbot Yes, good decision
Zedd Yes, good decision
mama Yes, good decision
Zymon Yes, good decision
Viperish Yes, good decision
urtier Yes, good decision
mAhla Yes, good decision
PMCGc0bra Yes, good decision
Ahuu Yes, good decision
KESKUSRIKOSPOLIISI Yes, good decision
teTsu0 Yes, good decision
hizzy Yes, good decision
m1ke Yes, good decision
ViQuel Yes, good decision
tomeka2 Yes, good decision
Em0ReJ! Yes, good decision
kevlar Yes, good decision
JiPp0 Yes, good decision
rahula Yes, good decision
RookieF Yes, good decision
Qmm Yes, good decision
jaaN Yes, good decision
aNSI Yes, good decision
mens0 Yes, good decision
Edik Yes, good decision
chmpp Yes, good decision
sunni Yes, good decision
marcingieblo Yes, good decision
Eirik Yes, good decision
Vivitore Yes, good decision
carlito Yes, good decision
senn Yes, good decision
zenix Yes, good decision
knnk Yes, good decision
slayerrrr Yes, good decision
lollipop Yes, good decision
h20xyg3n Yes, good decision
fantaxd Yes, good decision
Skype Yes, good decision
crAshull Yes, good decision
Fragma Yes, good decision
Nyke Yes, good decision
Ince Yes, good decision
S7umf Yes, good decision
HARM0NY Yes, good decision
Cojiine Yes, good decision
haZe Yes, good decision
FLEXdaSLUT Yes, good decision
CeeOhTwo Yes, good decision
Trev Yes, good decision
we3D Yes, good decision
Krein Yes, good decision
drago Yes, good decision
RoXoR Yes, good decision
nAzty Yes, good decision
eVo Yes, good decision
Miroslav Klose Yes, good decision
ToDeSoMa Yes, good decision
fableb0t Yes, good decision
Rockskin Yes, good decision
Perkele Yes, good decision
iGlooW Yes, good decision
krc Yes, good decision
mnew Yes, good decision
Baggiez Yes, good decision
dialer Yes, good decision
NoHead Yes, good decision
crook Yes, good decision
Prydz Yes, good decision
NokiaXpress Yes, good decision
maza Yes, good decision
FLoPJEHZ Yes, good decision
Maani Yes, good decision
reAz Yes, good decision
hasta Yes, good decision
Pepper Yes, good decision
antman Yes, good decision
KennyHotz Yes, good decision
NoXi0us Yes, good decision
RES0 Yes, good decision
Olpen Yes, good decision
Oxy Yes, good decision
nips Yes, good decision
siVek Yes, good decision
duKe_ Yes, good decision
wedeus Yes, good decision
jenz0r Yes, good decision
jackh4mmer Yes, good decision

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LeFrancis 15 Jul 2010, 02:11
People who can't do this trickjump and rage :}DDDD
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Ronner 16 Jul 2010, 23:49
most of the people on that list can do that jump easily.
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blind 14 Jul 2010, 16:29
this poll needs a 'dont care, give SLAC' option
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sHEv 14 Jul 2010, 16:44
QuoteYossarian Yes, good decision



hahahaha biggest whiner on CF voting "yes" :DDDDDDDDD he's part of this crapcomitte right?
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Deactivated5311 14 Jul 2010, 17:11
No, it's a bad change.

The percentages clearly show that hardly any fucker wants the change.
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Nonix 14 Jul 2010, 17:14
I cant do the jump so voted yes. ^^
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fumble 14 Jul 2010, 17:25
Bad change (part of game)

Don't fix it if it aint broken.
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sHEv 14 Jul 2010, 17:41
54% No, it's a bad change


FUCK YEAH, NOW FIX YOUR MISTAKE
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moPPel 14 Jul 2010, 19:04
i am too stupid to do those jumps. but it is silly do remove a way where players can get up...

i am not sure, but somehow block the tj-scripts if there exist any would be enough :o
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KipzZ 14 Jul 2010, 19:13
Half the people voting "No" don't even know how to trick jump over it so I don't see why they are strongly against it. But for an "ET Commitee" and admin to change something that will affect everyone participating in AEF and SC without consulting teams and players, find that kinda unfair
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Bluman 15 Jul 2010, 13:36
i personally cant do it (done it once who cares) and yet i vote no since even if i cannot do it doesent mean that everyone else shouldnt. The boosting shit is there for a reason and bugging it up with boxes and making attacking more harder is just retarded. Like that would fuck ur defence that bad... and even if it does too bad thats the way this game is played, taking advantage of every aspect of maps.
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Deactivated6676 14 Jul 2010, 19:23
PHYZICCCCCCCCCCCC WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO ABOUT THIS???????
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Jinosta 14 Jul 2010, 19:41
Oasis no trickjumping main wall or doing around the main wall either then...
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erove 14 Jul 2010, 19:56
admins wont fix it even if 80% of community wouldnt agree

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Hydra 14 Jul 2010, 20:04
then we are going for 90%
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th0rdis 14 Jul 2010, 21:13
is it a joke? :DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
Disabling it because not all players can jump this? Lets disable headshots, not all players can aim on head!
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Bluman 15 Jul 2010, 13:37
afaik its disabled due high skillors cant defend it properly and their game will be fucked up. :DD even single nade can fuck u up with full and yet still they let us use em
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th0rdis 15 Jul 2010, 14:00
tbh i think nades should be disallowed
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Bluman 15 Jul 2010, 14:07
WAT!
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th0rdis 15 Jul 2010, 14:17
Cmon, they are overused + 1 nade can break whole defence
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szczurek 14 Jul 2010, 21:45
better block all push and jump scripts
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qpr 14 Jul 2010, 23:05
Let's get rid of the quake engine and have counter-strike jumps, capiche?
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dongo 15 Jul 2010, 05:23
seems like a pointless change.
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Spirea 15 Jul 2010, 07:36
Voted blank, basically it's a bad thing to change something like that, because sd will be a lot more harder to attack now, and some ppl have really practised a lot for that jump etc. Still I can't really deny how annoying it is to die because of that jump. So basically I got no opinion on this
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Krosan 15 Jul 2010, 10:47
Thanks for the feedback
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Spirea 16 Jul 2010, 12:42
you are welcome :)
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KipzZ 15 Jul 2010, 20:04
+1, Im neutral and agree with griim, don't like how the decision was made
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Negativ 16 Jul 2010, 11:32
Practice hard? You can do this in 30 min if you're trying.
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Spirea 16 Jul 2010, 12:42
maybe you are a natural talent but most of the ET ppl need practise for it, and even if you manage it one time out of 50 you still have to train a lot to make it succeed every time
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HellHammer 15 Jul 2010, 08:33
What Spirea said, but at least ask the community about it instead of ninja-implementing it.
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Burneddi 15 Jul 2010, 13:25
Well, they did "ask" the "community", much like parliament democracy "asks" the "people".
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Griim 15 Jul 2010, 12:33
I guess I could understand the decision, I just don't like the way it was made.
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Krosan 15 Jul 2010, 12:43
It's not a decision, it's a test.
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Griim 15 Jul 2010, 13:17
Now you're just splitting hairs.
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Krosan 15 Jul 2010, 13:18
No I'm not.
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Griim 15 Jul 2010, 13:32
You made a decision to do a test at the cost of the community, no?
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Krosan 15 Jul 2010, 13:35
Summercup = testcup
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Griim 15 Jul 2010, 13:39
Fair enough.
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Gifted 16 Jul 2010, 06:41
if the changes turn out to be good, they might use it next ec/oc season

dont worry mate, i got your back :s

cu aef
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Burneddi 15 Jul 2010, 13:24
What are you testing? How much rage you can cause in ETscene? How many players can you make quit?

Such exciting experiments.
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Krosan 15 Jul 2010, 13:25
Which ideas (and there were many, just check out the main news item) will be approved or denied.
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Burneddi 15 Jul 2010, 13:28
Ok, two words:
fuck your ideas
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th0rdis 15 Jul 2010, 14:17
actually 3 words ;D
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sac 15 Jul 2010, 16:33
ok 1 word:
you smart
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th0rdis 15 Jul 2010, 18:04
3 words: you are pathetic
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sac 16 Jul 2010, 07:52
ok 2 words:
shut the fuck up polak faggot
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Predje 15 Jul 2010, 14:22
and why dont u guys post it her so u can get feedback, instead if sneaky implanting it and then cause uber rage
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baq 15 Jul 2010, 17:13
maybe next time just ask cf community, make pull like this one and when more than 50% of the votes will be for it, just test it ... dont force people to test something what some random admins want to have because they think it would be better for all...

+1 what Freze said
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Krosan 16 Jul 2010, 09:44
Firstly, these random admins are the ones making sure your cups actually run. Without these random admins you wouldn't even have a summercup to play in so your pathetic crying is completely disrespectful.
Secondly, the changes weren't thought of by any admins, it was from a collection of top players, who know much more of the current state of ET than you.
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baq 16 Jul 2010, 10:14
'these random admins are the ones making sure your cups actually run'

You mean who ? :D

'who know much more of the current state of ET than you.'

You know me ?
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Krosan 16 Jul 2010, 10:15
Try to figure that one out for yourself...
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baq 16 Jul 2010, 10:21
Try to answer my question
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Freze 15 Jul 2010, 14:20
The new generation of random admins is again showing that the one thing they can do is blocking or removing things in the game and all of this is to "improve" gameplay. If all of u are halfbrained clerkless cunts just leave it for someone that will actually do something with idea unlike you fucking pathetic little castrated dogs.
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Evilynn 15 Jul 2010, 19:28
I don't like the way certain people are going to decide or "test things" how you call it without asking the majority. I voted no for several reasons. Although I probably will never be able to do that jump, doesn't mean that people who figured out how it is done, are not allowed to do it. Don't get why it would be a big deal out of a sudden. Then ofc I voted no to express I don't like the way you decided about it!
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DeVito 15 Jul 2010, 20:05
I vote for Freedom!!
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_shiNe_ 15 Jul 2010, 21:41
The poll should called : "Do you agree that there is a Committee exists of 5-6 peoples which decide over a whole community" ....
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HardyRah 16 Jul 2010, 00:59
TUTORIAL HOW TO MAKE WESTJUMP INSTEAD!!!
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undertakerrr 16 Jul 2010, 01:33
they gonna fix it:

image: shot0000h
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aDman 22 Jul 2010, 09:50
Old and harder to do than the disallowed one.
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HardyRah 22 Jul 2010, 16:46
i know its old.. and i also know that its harder.. thats why i made the tutorial...
its not that hard after you learn it.. you can easily make it with every 2nd try. =)
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aDman 22 Jul 2010, 17:27
Well after you learn something it cannot be hard no more ;)
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HardyRah 22 Jul 2010, 18:02
i remember when east jump was like 'wow wtf how did you do that..' after some like year almost everyone was doing it.. =)
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Deuger 16 Jul 2010, 01:38
fucking stupid idea
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Eagle20 16 Jul 2010, 13:59
I can not see why people whine so much about it?

Like somebody comment before that we can not be fullheld then!

This is a very weak aspect of view.It tells that you and your team is so bad to attack another opponent trough main east or west and have to use east sneaky jump to get behind them backrape or spawn rape and then scream " fu noobs you are just to low skilled "

A very good decision,using exploits in games show how weak you are.Learn to attack without trickjumps then it is more fun and gives more reason to coordinate team attacks than relie on invidual trickjumpers in the team!
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anderson 16 Jul 2010, 21:43
we lost supply due to olbaa doing this jump and fragging me

thanks for removing it :XD
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Bluman 17 Jul 2010, 06:22
hihi rolled by skilled :XD
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OLBAA 17 Jul 2010, 20:50
OLBAA POTM?!
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infect 24 Jul 2010, 19:05
Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?
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twiQz 17 Jul 2010, 12:46
bad change.
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micho 18 Jul 2010, 12:31
51 to 24. simple gtfo
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pulssi2 18 Jul 2010, 14:58
How low you need to be to not understand why that jump is so superior to other tj's on that map?
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Halidith 18 Jul 2010, 22:36
why would u change maps. Go spend ur time make a new awesome war map instead of deciding the map isn't perfect after ages.
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daze_ 19 Jul 2010, 13:50
Welcome to clanbase
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blackwolf1 20 Jul 2010, 23:30
who cant jump, voted yes, they who can, voted nope, and who dont know what is supply tj voted what happened
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caej 21 Jul 2010, 11:35
bullshit...
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Krii 22 Jul 2010, 21:21
lol care, et is dead
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xedos 23 Jul 2010, 19:17
can't do the fucking thing anyway, aint played for almost 2 years anyway, so don't give a monkeys chuff anyway..
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