fra.espion also wallshooting

A brief but certainly strange avi

For those of you suggesting this isn't quite strange enough to be considered meaningful, do remember the map is relatively new. This means that as players don't know the layout as well, cheaters are more likely to mess things up. Same situation as jan & scorch on bremen when it was released for those of you who remember.

Some other times worth seeing, hopefully avis will be made soon.
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radar attack
11:40
10:46
9:15
8:15
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Radar defence
3:40
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sp_Delivery
10:15
8:00
5:12

http://rapidshare.com/files/134852587/espion.rar.html
http://w0nd3r.ls-et.de/demos/espion.rar
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he had huge skillboost aswell if hes now playing in team france
I think I mixed with this guy one time and he was definatley noone I'd think belongs into any national team.

On topic: Stuff like that does happen on accident with drawgun 0 but through logic you can usually tell if it's fishy or not. This does look like wh to me but need more scenes to be convinced.
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blu i never shot for fun on walls + he wasnt good at all half year ago
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Well I don't really know him but I'm sure I mixed with him on one ocassion and he didn't seem like a high level player to me.

And to the wallshooting: Stuff of that nature is really rare, overtracking a bit into the wall when someone moves behind the corner is normal, or shooting 4-5 bullets while thinking you have the weapon in hand that you switched too but it unfortunatley didn't reg your key or things like that. (r_drawgun 0) Happens to everyone. But imo if you see things like this people should take their time and look through demos since there is pretty fair chance the guy could be cheating ... Imo it's fair to make this kind of topic since there is a situation which is suspicious and therefor justifies the accusations. Even though more proof is definatley needed.
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ye ofc when u spec someone a whole match with show_normals 1 u will see somthing suspicious always:P also espion has never played in any good clan
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obvious :D


just a random shot like every1 does now and then :/
hmm, maybe he just accidently pushed mouse1, and before that his teammates could tell him where enemies r and he just looked there, and accidently pressed
The enemies are on the other side of the wall, why would he look from where he was?
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good point but as u can see he aimed to the door first,of course that coz some1 tell him where they r and of course u look at that point to the door, and that shooting is weird but i am not going to judge him by that clip, i gonna now download second one and check it:)
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Yes, but if you looked at the door and saw nobody, would you then turn to the wall on the right and shoot it? >.>
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look allir's comment:)
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he is shooting at the guy which selfkilled a msec later and that guy isn´t behind the wall, nothing more, a real coincidence (imo)
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its possible that he was chasing that hex4 guy, and just randomly shot on the spot he could have camped. If you play in slowmotion you can see that he isnt shooting on the guy behind the wall
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Of course he could be, but the chances are slim, with a guy who just happens to be behind the wall where that guy just may have been camping you know..

As for not being on him, it doesn't have to be an aimbot, just poor aim and a wallhack.
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"Of course he could be, but the chances are slim". says it all :/ ? ( btw nothing against busting cheaters , but all those fail avi's are just a bad thing for this community )
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he wasn't chasing hex4 guy, he was camping near the truck doors, then prolly they told him "theyre in" and he ran, went up the ladder and for some reason shot the wall. i don't think he saw hex4
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-_- player was here, and he gibed himself, it's not wallshooting... plzzzzz
one player from malta was behind the wall. ESPION can hear him cuz he's shooting. ESPION pushed on mouse1 but we can see in slowmotion, player from malta push on space. So it's not obvious at all.

plz Stop with all your lame .avi :\ We're allready kicked out
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These players aren't just playing NC. If they are cheating, more awareness of them should be raised.
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yep, i know but ithik and i hope they're not cheating...
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Dont get me wrong but as far as i can see his crosshair is about 2cm from the guy standing there.. so dnno i do think it was a accident
What if he is a bad aimer with wallhack
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I played him a couple of times and i know for sure hes not a bad aimer :P
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I've played againts French teams multiple times including Espion and most of the time even though my team has won; they're fucking obvious.
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I know, they are obvious but this avi is not the right proof that he cheats ( imo )
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cheaterlover just be quiet
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ovie on 07/08/08, 13:04:47 PM | Reply

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I think it was just a reflex cause he saw a black phone on the table xD. Didn't saw the other actions though
I also shot like 100 times on that :D they have to make them green imo
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thats explain it's......
wat?
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Seriously this avi is rubbish.. He wasnt shooting at the guy behind the wall but at the one that he heard shooting but sked just when he aimed and shot on him. Really killerboy think first instead of wasting your time making shit avi's ;).

Didn't watch the demo though.
what was the command now again to see those white spikes ?
This is getting ridiculous. Im going to buy a bot also.
But you bought one in the past, why are you going to get another one?
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made me smile :D
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i already knew this would be the reply
fuck you archy :(
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im obvious :-(

<3
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well its strange but.. dunno :S

Somethims i accidently pushe mouse1, and when i check my own demo i see guys behind d walls... so dont think this is bot. or hmm x) dunno .. maybe.


<o/ english
we all know these desire nubs + friends are cheaters, no suprise

frogs sux
i'm not a cheater, i'm a dESIRE' friend. I don't like frogs.
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some frogs are nice :(
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your 1 of the few ;>

retake team france from these nonames plx ty
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Where are all the good and cool players from france? Why the hell are these people in team fr? Srsly, where are Straf, Douille, you, Bumeu, Pheex, Kyp, Tsu, Zorn, and so on, you got so many players and this bunch of boulettes are team fr? :(
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They can't play because of et-fr community. In the french community the random nubs has always to say something when they have a nationcup. They are totalnubz they haven't event played in any good clan, but they know who has to play !

You know they only play french cup and they think that thier star for thier cup are good, more than players from EC. When they see that it's the same lineup as the previous nc, they whine because their nubz friend aren't in !

After a moment all the oldschoolers stopped this riddiculous battle to let the nc to these nubz.
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French ET community sucks :<
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The only good frenchies are in ex-reload ex-epsylon or muse gaming + some from RtCW like fra or maxuh. Others suck ye.
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add syncro
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nah he was just trying to shoot the table!
hard to say.. just checked the times in the demo. im not sure about the other scenes, cause it's actually quite normal to "guessshoot" at radar cuz of the trees n bushes, but the scene shown in the avi at delivery with solid walls etc was a bit suspicious..
no surpise, there was already a thread about him
Avi says it all :)

+ played in a clan together with trix/circus
lets just ban France
yeah just give us more avi's
stfu up with jan and me, hentai!
For the love of god are u kiddin me?

Are u just gonna say cheater to everyone who makes aimes at a wall once in a while?

If u think that someone cheats, howa bout discussing it within the CB/cheatbusters group. posting it on crossfire without having any good evidence is just bullshit, u ruin a guys fun/reputation by doing it.


I always thought that cheaters were killing ET, but im start to think honostly that u guys are killing ET. if u make a wallshot ONCE on ettv u can expect to see BUSTED,.AVI topic's the next day. no1 tries to play good these days, cause if u play 1 round like maus/ferus/mystic w/e youre gonna get bannend.


This is just out of control.


PS. played espion. not good at all
an allied killed infront of the wall he reflex shot him and another guy was unfortunately behind the wall (sphix is the allied who killed himself) on the first avi:nothing.
image: TG

shut the fuck up whiners now plz.
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+1 tzbq, kill3rn00b open you eyes plz he /kill In front of the wall.

ps : jeje je suis fan de ta traduction là :D ca roxxxxxxxxx
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you have to slow it down to .00000000000000000000001 to see that he selfkilled
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the avi in cfg sux to see allies and all those white dots are annoying with a good cfg and no white dots it would be easy to see the dude.
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Know better avis *-)
Haha nice making the crap avi so we can say he cheats.
On this movie we can't see properly sphinx /kill. His smg fall, and with ingame cfg it's normal to have this reflexe. Another avi fail.

For blind persons:

http://dviance.eu/~tzbq/TG.PNG

image: RonaldMcGTFO
jealous, talent and experience
Quotetoxic and hentai friends4ever
it's becoming dangerous to play against Malta oO

Good luck to the team they will play in play off
:O i thought if someone cheat there it wont be me ! btw we can see sphinx /kill when i come and i was shooting him but ok :<
I can't watch the avis here. But what I know is that keeji, bruce and sinus know eachother since a long time (bruce and sinus are brothers afaik). Bruce played with mulja/arrow/ knowingly a long time ago .... and started cheating in this time (2005/06?). He even got busted due his stupidity twice. It couldn't be proven that sinus also cheated, because everything was mixed up as they are brothers.

Keeji was all the time with them. He was the most suspicious since the beginning. I wouldn't be surprised, if some other French players joined their kiddy-crew.
Btw i can comment ur scene @ avi radar i shoot on three but if u make sound i didnt hit someone , but as u can see someone were shooting so i knew there were one person..

the rifle on delivery, i preshoot because we all see that hes gone there.. and i rush after he shoot rifle because i know he can't shoot me again with grenade.
i think i dont need to comment the rest

BTW timescal 0.00002 too get a long walltrack

english ftw
u can make draw foliage 0, sound, and get some brain and u will delete ur own post
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I couldn't believe this.


In 2003.
C'est juste bizarre... :/
lol how fucked up has this game got :D
omg ESPION is so noob low action nothing obvious

seriously he just play with his brain stop whine if he is more skilled than you !!!
low & more skilled than u

tes con ou quoi !!? bizou
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ESPION is 2low2cheat :p:p:p
Ah cool un syncro qui me défend, c'est plus fort encore qu'un pbss !
a prendre au 1000eme degres,

Ma vrai réponse : stoi
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ca veut faire le mec skilled paske ca joue en team fra te prend pa pour chez pa koi aussi
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je rigolais dsl :<
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[fr]ne lui en veut pas! ca fesait juste 20 saisons qu'il voulait aller en team france 8'( mais ca reste un mec sympa quand meme[/fr]
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j'en suis qu'à 1 saison j'ai le tmps ou pas ? :p
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he still sucks at comms
ESPION bientôt prooflan, tu peux pas test copaing.
si je viens c'est pour te pwn au tarot pas pour prouver que je sux en lan et je cheat online, ca on le sait deja !
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fr: Perso je crois pas que tu cheats, tu étais vraiment très mauvais sur ettv, tu n'as réussi qu'a faire des kills qu'en waitant comme un vieux déchet.

en: To me I don't think you are a cheater, you were realy looking bad on ettv, you only make your kills in waiting as an old detritus.
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merci, c'est exactement ce que je pensais
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mega webtarot en parallèle mec, cherche pas
All french guy I played against so far were total noobs, unhitable or/and hacked.

Except strAf he just sounds weird when he is laughing
That was pointless the demo's show nothing.
Funny Killerboy, really retard.
Killerboy you is too much to be therefore pressing you makes a little shit as video grieve. Takes your times.

But you made by the great work as cheatbuster.

PS: Thx translator XD
hm wasn t espion kicked from eugaming becauase to obvious ?
En général il faut écrire français si tu veux que le traducteur fasse un minimum son boulot
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En général il faut que ton récépteur soit francophone pour qu'il comprenne ta réponses; dsl
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A parce que kartezoloji il est pas fr peut etre ?
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Ah ok carrément ! c'est donc pour ca que t'as répondu à eujen.
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"For those of you suggesting this isn't quite strange enough to be considered meaningful, do remember the map is relatively new"

Ok. Go play on public shrub mod.
lol jsui allé voir une voyante sur internet, juste apres avoir lu ce post et j'ai demandé s'il y avait des cheaters en teams fra @ ET.. elle a pas compris :<
sinn les JO's c aussi bien
Why ? WHY HE ISNT BAN?
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ban ESPION for whatever but not for this bullshit which shows only that he has never cheated.

ps: sinon jte deteste autant que tu détéste douille.
lmao ...
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