I am a Level Designer for RtCW and I am trying to revive this game!
The game is old. It has dust all over it. Yet, there is still a community of players that continue to play.
How many of those players, during their time they have invested into playing, have thought about making a map of their own for Return to Castle Wolfenstien?
I already know of a handful of guys who wish they, 'had the patience' 'the skill' 'tools to do so'. And now they do.
Please I am encouraging every player who reads this post to just take a look at the Forum I have created.
The RtCW Level Design forum already has Tutorials posted for anyone and everyone to create their first room and play it IN-GAME! Skill level needed? ZERO. NONE.
All it takes is for you to have Return to Castle Wolfenstein installed. The rest is in my tutorials. So if you're interested, please visit the forum and register. Say hello and ask questions. Let's make something new!
http://www.leveldesign.proboards.com
How many of those players, during their time they have invested into playing, have thought about making a map of their own for Return to Castle Wolfenstien?
I already know of a handful of guys who wish they, 'had the patience' 'the skill' 'tools to do so'. And now they do.
Please I am encouraging every player who reads this post to just take a look at the Forum I have created.
The RtCW Level Design forum already has Tutorials posted for anyone and everyone to create their first room and play it IN-GAME! Skill level needed? ZERO. NONE.
All it takes is for you to have Return to Castle Wolfenstein installed. The rest is in my tutorials. So if you're interested, please visit the forum and register. Say hello and ask questions. Let's make something new!
http://www.leveldesign.proboards.com
We want to see what other members can make! Show us what you can do!
edit: okay after reading it twice i got it.
GL reviving RTCW, but it has already failed a couple of times with ET. You can bring back some diversity, but reviving a game needs more than good maps. Good luck tho
The thing is, some random 5th division team gets bored of not understanding how to play goldrush or supply after all these years, decides they'd do better on a new map, cry for a new map, new map comes along, a bad map most likely, random 5th division team still gets their asses kicked, new map becomes obsolete because it was rushed, pointless and doesn't offer any replay value, random 5th division team quits anyway because they can no longer blame maps.
Your "skilled ones" aren't getting raped on new maps because they don't like new maps, they simply can't be bothered to prac a map that isn't any fun or worth playing. Along come your gizmos, crods and who not that'll play this map exclusively because they figured out it might just give them a edge. And thus, you now suddenly have 3 out of 500 people playing a map for no other reason than for the sake of wanting to win a round once in a while. Most times of which they still end up losing the game, but hey, now at least they can blame the map, right? Right? Because look at how well they did on their hipster map!!
Regardless, new maps will never and would have never promoted activity in this game, not now not 5 years ago. it's a pointless argument to make.
It's a nice map, but it's still not as good or even remotely better as any of the alternatives.
Def is a bit broken imo - it SHOULD be a bit more supply like after 1st stage - there should be (imo) a proper CP stage in my opinion. But then again I dont like erdenberg at all maybe because I happen to play it vs those hide and seek leaner camper ppl :( have never played it against decent team
Faggot.
The only thing that can teams actually play more different maps is when tournements start forcing those maps in their week shedules. But as RazZaH and WuT says, people will start complaining about the fact that it's not supply, delivery & adlernest (3on3) and supply, grush & radar (6on6) each week.
Then there would need to be regular tournaments with 20k+ eur prize pools.
If you really want old competitive scene back, thats what it takes, and thats why it will never happen.
http://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wolfenstein:_Enemy_Territory
Just look at the publish dates. Pretty close to each other right? Then looking at graphics / textures.. I know W:ET wasn't made till the end but if they had just only updated those textures in ET I think this game would still be much more lively :P think in that way they would have still made major updates till 2008 - 2009 :P Sad but "true". Could be it wouldn't have any affect but for some reasons I believe there would have been more sponsors and stuff - all in all in ET's gameplay got so much potential. I don't really member was it because of budget or what why they published this game like this..
ET has like 2k maps
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the thing is:
except for the fun players nobody wants to try out "new" ones, they always wanna play supply or delivery
most people don't even now the smallest part of available maps in ET
e: seems like someone had a go http://www.wolffiles.de/index.php?news-print-310 :sd
gL with your revival
This community needs to stop pretending that a revival is possible(especially when it comes to maps) and move on... People have been trying and screaming 'revive this game' for years now and the most that happens is a couple of oldtimers or new players who leave after a month or two because other communities offer more or have more important things in life.
What an incredibly depressing thing to say. Just because you've quit ET doesn't mean it's no longer worth playing and everyone else should simply join you in moving on to LoL or CSGO or whatever.
I don't think anyone here is delusional enough to believe that the game will ever be as active as it used to be, but there is nothing wrong with speculating or saying "what if".
I'm not saying people are delusional, I'm merely claiming that 'reviving' this game isn't going to happen, and that maps are not the problem nor the solution. The last few years people have tried making maps, most if not all were received as 'this is shit, I'm not playing this'. Exception maybe missile but that one has been booted out again as-well to be replaced by whatever was played before it was released. And those new maps definitely didn't bring back old players or create an attraction for new ones.
Don't get me wrong, I think people like yourself, merlinator, chilax and some others do great work for this community and this game. I've done some admin work and tourney hosting here and there myself I know how much of a pain it can be and/but also how gratifying it is as-well. I think the game on deserves it, but when it comes to 'revival', let's just say I know a lost cause when I see one.
Everyone is already aware of the state of ET and doesn't need to be reminded that it's dying or that "better" (in your opinion) games and communities exist. Basically what I'm saying is that your comment is a bit unnecessary. Like, if you gave this sort of prep talk thing to everyone who ever decided to help contribute, then we'd have a lot fewer "new" things to enjoy.
Also, missile is still being played on a regular basis, as well as the latest version of erdenberg.
+1
But here is my statement:
I know that RtCW is on its last leg and on its way out the door, but I have found another avenue. My goal is simple. It's not to start a revolution, it's to build something new for an old game.
All I'm asking is for all those who want to make maps for their favorite game of all time, to register on the forum and begin their new journey with RtCW. This forum I have created WILL revive the game.
We are creating all new Duel, TDM, Trickjump, Dyno, Checkpoint, and Doc maps that will be totally fresh and creative. All it takes is more mappers. More brains, more creativity to get this ball rolling.
So take a look, see what we're talking about. You will then understand what we're doing
doubt it bro
Sorry but it takes a lot more than new maps. How are you going to exactly advertise this game so the sponsors would take intress on it and follow it by creating those tournaments and making a league interested about it? I don't see this happening as long as I don't win Euro jackpot 60million €
Besides, ET 's current state is in my opinion the worst it has ever been. But why would you want to play a game without any working anticheat anyway? I cannot blame anybody who has no motivation to return and give it another try, as long as this issue isnt fixed. All whats left today are some random cups you can "enjoy" with people you know and like. And I doubt there is more to follow.
:D