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aCoZz the movie
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12 Aug 2007, 13:25
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edit by klejf
frags by aCoZz
#webartdesign prod
movie length: 9:36
framerate: 25fps
primary mirror: x264 hq version, 720p ~510mb
mirror1: XviD hq version, 720p ~490mb
mirror2: XviD mq version, 400p, ~230mb
mirror3: own3d.at mirror
IMPORTANT NOTE:
if the rar you downloaded seems corrupt:
1. download the newest winrar version
2. while unpacking, be sure to check this: http://img520.imageshack.us/my.php?image=rarproblemslu8.jpg
3. if this doesnt work, re-download will (tested)
editing this movie took me +- 4 months
enjoy
would be nice if anyone comment it @ pm and add some new mirrors (the .rar corrupting is caused by ftp (i guess))
edit: mirror3 added (own3d.at)
frags by aCoZz
#webartdesign prod
movie length: 9:36
framerate: 25fps
primary mirror: x264 hq version, 720p ~510mb
mirror1: XviD hq version, 720p ~490mb
mirror2: XviD mq version, 400p, ~230mb
mirror3: own3d.at mirror
IMPORTANT NOTE:
if the rar you downloaded seems corrupt:
1. download the newest winrar version
2. while unpacking, be sure to check this: http://img520.imageshack.us/my.php?image=rarproblemslu8.jpg
3. if this doesnt work, re-download will (tested)
editing this movie took me +- 4 months
enjoy
would be nice if anyone comment it @ pm and add some new mirrors (the .rar corrupting is caused by ftp (i guess))
edit: mirror3 added (own3d.at)
edit: why exactly is xvid smaller than x264?
http://crossfire.nu/?x=tutorial&mode=item&id=30 by ag0n
(TLR|aCoZz) well it's not my fault your overcritic and expect only 6 man kills with 1 riflenade
\o/
i was already after like 25-30h of render, too tired of this to fuck the shit up.
maybe croatians prefer 30 min flame instead of saying "thx" that i didnt hear yet :s
8.5/10 imo <3
Please add this mirror :)
:O
now 30% done so i wont start a new one
the color correction is just 'horrible', boxs are almost black .. well the color correction is very bad at all.
80% of the hidsound aren't synced which is very very boring.
some part ruin the frags but atleast thats the most interessing part (the frags)
i'd say a little 6/10
i`d say a little make a/better movie
RUN!!!!!!!!!!C`MON plz is a great movie at least it`s diferent in editing and that with a nice frags deserves a >5 imo
edit: already done thanks
Great frags, awfull music, at some parts really nice tries to edit it and synch it, then again parts with no editing at all, quality is nice but colors are fucked up.
6/10
rly nice frags btw acozz
edit: probeer hem te kopiëren naar een ander plek
hope u haven't spoiled aCoZz's frags like u did S4rna's
EDIT: YOU DID IT AGAIN, NICE
Let's start with the cons.. Way too much contrast and saturation, and the cfg was too bright at some points. Ingame sounds were off-sync at times and the aspect ratio was screwed up with this usual style of resizing, had to change it back to normal manually. Man, what's so cool with this flattened image, I just don't get it. If you wanna do widescreen, do it without screwing up the aspect ratio (this applies to everyone). The quality was way too bad for x264 with such a high size and ratio, over 50MB per minute.
Yet, for some reason I felt amused while watching it. The editing was quite simple but there were some nice ideas in blending freecams with the first person footage. Music was the usual stuff, but mixed with constant ingame sounds throughout the movie, it didn't bother me at all, rather the other way around. Spiced up with frags from one of the best rifles at the moment, the movie was quite enjoyable for my taste. Just fix the config problems and you'll be doing fine.
simply:
lowered r_intensity so thas not that bright and changed capping res to 1280x720 so the aspect ratio doesnt fuck no more
noticed the aspect ratio prob before, but i was like 80% of the movie there, so re-recording all would be a hard deal
playing @ velocity for example is kinda hard there, especially if u want to do like few slow/fastmotion parts
Thank you! <3
from what I did see this guy looks like a great rifle, and the movie itself was not that bad at all. I liked the intro at first as it looked new, but I dunno it lost me. music wasnt so bad (I didnt wear my headphones though, just high volume with them on the table)
like Nizou has said, the visuals themself need to be changed, with some FX being "lowered" but overall I actually liked it, and have watched it twice which believe me is rare. ;)
looking forward to a next movie, and hopefully a rejigged look.
Deciding this is up to anyone on their own, a comment like "color correction sucks" in this case is nothing but a statement of your own preference and therefore shouldnt be rated by anyone, but reasoned by the author. What is displayed here is simply TOO dark in dark fields and too bright in bright areas (sky for example).
Another eyample of this personal preference is music. The problem here is that the music hardly added anything to the movie in my opinion as its overtuned by the hitsounds too much and hence didn't stay in mind after watching the video.
The music is of crucial importance in gaming videos in my opinion, as its the only way to deliver tension or release and that just doesn't happen here. I don't remember anything from the music except them being random rock songs.
The next point is the quality, and since I've only watched the so-called "high-quality" version, I only want to rate this one. That version simply doesn't deserve to be tagged "high-quality" as its too blurry all the time and far from being clear.
Testing beforehand might've helped. As you can see further up, I've already wondered that the Xvid version is smaller than the x264 one and it's not to debate that it is impossible that both had good quality. As I can read in Nizou's comment the x264 render was lacky too so you should've figured out how to get proper quality before.
Excuse possible mistakes in language!
btw my codec settings are rly fine, wanted to give both xvid and x264 the 7000 bitrate, x264 looks better on it and xvid is a bit smaller
i didnt notice any blurryness except the motion blur that was imo kinda nice
and that "motion blur" can better be described as "ghosting"
Seems like u know alot
apart from that, it shouldnt be you im arguing with :>
When I read you comments in moviemaking topics here at crossfire I mostly agree with them and I see that u know quite a lot of what you are talking about but now you're wrong (or as I think, klefj is and you are defending him because he's your webartdesign mate even though you know too that he's wrong).
We are talking about 'fine encoding settings'. What I consider as 'fine encoding settings' give good picture quality with a reasonable ratio. This movie has a massive ratio and still the picture quality isn't so good. He had to use a ridiculously high bitrate to achieve even this quality and that tells that there is something rly wrong in his encoding settings.
I think you are.
I think you are.
;p
(20:15:51) (ag0n`HappyBirth) say something like: "have u released something better?"
(20:16:10) (ag0n`HappyBirth) "as far i know, u released tiigeri movie only.. and its WAY lower that acozz one"
(20:16:19) (ag0n`HappyBirth) "sorry, go render something better"
(20:16:25) (ag0n`HappyBirth) "(c) ag0n"
\o/
(20:25:07) (ag0n`HappyBirth) AHHA
(20:25:11) (ag0n`HappyBirth) SON OF A BITCH
(20:25:16) (ag0n`HappyBirth) i will post "faker"
(20:25:18) (ag0n`HappyBirth) xDDDDDddd
(20:25:20) (ag0n`HappyBirth) die
This movie's encoding sux, colors are terrible and this whole messy movie didn't make me enjoy the frags.
1. its 1,5 years or so old
2. back then there was not a sense for HD rendering compared to now
3. there weren't the tools such as camtrace
4. there weren't these oh so famous people to ask with the huge amount of knowledge hannes (say what you want, he's done his homework) for example has which people nowadays tend to exploit too much (from what i heard)
5. my own hardware was way worse than what i supose you have today
6. this was my fricking very first movie (apart from the trailer i made for ramin <3), it was one of those nooby 2 months videos, and it obviously is nothing less than your 3rd (iirc) + another tigger behind the trigger was meant as a fun movie, at least that was what i planned it to be
and concerning ag0n, he did qkr movie, what else? having the points mentioned above in mind, this movie was as nooby as another tigger behind the trigger was back when it was released
Only when formatted for readability. :p
1st. i agree to the first statement (about the too high contrast and saturation) but its as u said a personal taste and i like this colors (maybe its a bit too much @ gr)
2nd. disagree @ crap music, but its still a personal taste and i rly like these songs
3rd. disagree @ blurry quality (maybe this got fucked up by rar suckage on ftp, i dunno- mine works rly fine and is quite sharp)
4th disagree @ bad compression - making the movie 50mb/ min was what i was aimed at, not caused by poor megui config, which is rly nice (encoded sarna movie easily for same res and even higher fps for 35mb/min), while the connections and the filesize are not the problem, i wanted to make the clip as lossless as possible. dont forget you still have a 22mb/min xvid version
if u wish, i can render a nice looking 30 (+-) mb/min clip for 720p 25fps just for you, if u dont believe this settings
5th. kinda (+-) disagree about the bad xvid compression.
the xvid sets were taken from the sp movie- aerodynamic 2 and, dunno why, code the same bitrate for lower size (both x264 and xvid are 7k bitrate), xvid looks good, maybe not better than x264, but the difference is really small (only some artifacts in intro- lowered opacity of the clip blended with the book kinda pwn xvid atm, also dont forget its a rather old codec, imo worse in coding hd than x264
i think thats all, the comment was serious this time
now the colors are fixed... you can see the last battery frag (vs FF)
got colors a bit different- thats the frag with the cfg i have now (fixed)
(looks promising, i didint read those retarded 1 sentence comments "sucks" "
Im fucking tired of DLing first 20% with 200-300kb/s and then 10kb/s !
Thats the speeds I get from own3d !
there will be more constructive critism later this night. (no time atm)
BUT: im really happy that the acozz frag from Zaigon has been there before.
EDIT: there is NO reply button to this comment, believe me
you made me do this : http://crossfire.nu/?x=column&mode=item&id=253
btw ye, the frag vs rize made the movie look like zaigon, sry master, im only wnb u :<
He meant that he is happy for acozz that at least 1 of his great frags has been shown enjoyably (THE 1 IN ZAIGON) because this movie is spoiling the good frags just like S4rna's movie spoiled his frags
I wont download it, because of the comments and because of the size.
6/10 keep it up!
EDIT: Fucking A you did put the shoutcast at a volume you actually could hear what is beeing said! I think your the first one that actually has done that!
the only thing they leave for me is a 1/10 (hi2u again)
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intuition got nothing to do with it
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DO YOU USE IT BITCH?
which is gay
WHAT DO YOU THINK FELLOW EPIC LULZER*?
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don't know if its the music...and plz don't tell me the music is personal taste....because the music choice is very important...the music you used was just boring....you just paste the frags behind each other...some flashes and that's it :O.....
Start making movies with passion....you need to get the vibe for making movies.....you need to make very second of your movie intresting....
Goodluck in the future
focus on the future instead of the past :x
if you need any help just pm klejf :) may the force be with you
btw, there is no thing i cant thx :<
finally another superb great rifle movie,this is definitely on blindness level and also on the best et movies level (eSrael,shewie & ganon,fragarea 3,jaetm)
just rulz :D
kurwa
Too bad the aspect ratio is screwed up.
just some effects xd
die
I dont understand why ppl are bitching about filesize, I really dont give a shit. Use own3d.at to watch the flash version, if you like it dowload it.
all that hating by random moviemaking noobs sucks
i like it, it is a decent movie, graphics are pritty nice with the only point that some things were too dark, but colors are nice, nothing else to worry about...
Anyway, thanks to everyone who said something nice about the movie, also thanks to everyone who didn't. :P
I might have seemed ungrateful in thoose logs klejf posted, let me asure you I'm not, I know it takes alot to make a good fragmovie, since I tried by myself once before, but failed because of numerous things I missed, and didnt have time to learn.
Personaly the movie is kinda too fast for my taste, and klejf did leave out some frags so I can whine about that! Eventho it took me alot of time to arrange and upload the frags for him, and the music is the way it is because I didn't have alot of interest in it before the end. :D
Cheers
P.S.
Klejf, stop whining at every person who says something bad! :<
btw saying bad things is ok only if u have arguments :<
./me not tolerating people saying bullshit, sry !:c
2nd. im not retarded
3rd. maybe u noticed before, i dont take the comment-talking here or on other sites too serious, what, combined with my flaming hobby results with what we have now here.
4th. if u rly look to find a "2nd floor" in the movie, you could find out why i made such a transition (7.00 -the zaigon-like) or made a 50mb/min movie... ye, you guessed- to turn some flame on :<
well if you're not a kiddie and a retard, stop acting like one! now if you don't care what people think, why are you denying that you aren't a retarded kiddie?
someone said sth about the transition, dont remember if it was u though
to be clear:
i dont care what u say here, or what will i say, because flaming gives mi kind of fun.
i`d care if someone pm me on irc or whatever that is not the comment-based system, that he lets say doesnt like that that but likes sth else, this gives me far more than lotto shitz written here, which, as i said, i dont take seriously
count it to my favourites.
i felt like i was watching ETTV replays cos I could hear hitsounds more than the music. I had to turn my my sound full volume to hear the music aswell.
Frags were good and editing was good but could have been better, much better.
6/10
The movie is cool, at least it's different from hanne's standard.
Original !
8/10
9/10
gg acozz
_IMO_ color correction is bad, contrast is too high (its eather too dark or too bright), some parts are oversaturated, you cant tell if the action is on night/day map
most of the effects make frags harder to see, and i didnt like them
quality is good but 50mb/min is too high, even for hd
i liked the frags =)
nice movie and frags gl*
Greatest rifle.