ET & Respect , 2 seperate things ?

ok

I dont know how it used to be, because im a newschooler :] But I do agree about the low+ thing and the respect here.

Respect and the good old ET is dead. Accept that and do not try to change it cuz it's useless trying. I know it.

Skillrating system is shit.

weren't u a cheater ?

Thx for following my advice =)
Nice read again, and 100% agree

I agree. A lot of people shout cheater to everything thats better then them. I don't considder myself as a outstanding player, (not to mention most people say I suck) but last time on telenet some guy pm'ed me: 'Sure' , 'Hacker' , because i shot 2 people on a row with k43 (with only bodyshots). It was funny but o well, I understand how people that are much better then me get crazy of the complaints.

every1 to who ive said he was / is hacker were busted so np4me

i know that 60% of the community is cheating

Careometer goes -
[--------X------] - 60%

hacks have gone up a lot from the oldschool times, and bustings too, and the avi. of hacks... So of course the whine about hacks will go up too?

what do you want from kids? they all want to have their e-penis bigger

after getting familiar with author of this column, delete this trash

I think most people agree, however I think only a few will change their attitude...

I blame all the new talent, when you've got non existant clan history, you're completely unheard of and you you've got the game sense of AlexL in his mortal gaming peak performances + the 40%+ acc 2hs per kill then you're obviously going to be suspicious. It's that simple.

agree with you manko...no respect in ET nowadays, but i do think threr are many ppl who are active and cheating...not at a high level th0.

Hacks

This justifys' a column these days ? I think it's pretty evident that when you have been playing the game less than a year and can aim stupidly well questions have to be asked. People laugh it off and say ET is easy, some of the top players are as bad as some of the new players for having this attitude (looks at Aza) and people creep through because of it. I've a simple solution, anyone who has an account on xfire less than 1 year and 15 days and plays competitive is a hacker simple as!

i loled. why you care about guys calling you hacker?


r. e. s. p. e. c. t. give a lil bit respect...

in german we call that "jumping onto a moving train". i think u can guess what that image wants to tell:
thx 4 repeating coloums of last days!

Restecp!

4 years experience

Agree.

THAN them pls :/

Respect? When did we ever have respect in the community? I think you're mixing up respect with the fact people still liked ET back then and they weren't completely bored with the game, waiting for something decent to come out.

People only lost "respect" for others when they got to the end of their tether with playing the same game for so long.

respect, answer for everything

I agree with the column. When a player is accused of cheating, the accuser's image and reputation will not decrease, even if the accusation is made with no proofs. Even when the accusation is actually proven wrong, he can just say "oh I was wrong, np" and have no drawbacks.

When someone suggested that TosspoT was "cheating" by staying in pro5 ventrilo during his shoutcast, he was extremely pissed off, and people felt sorry for him and solidarized etc. but when someone accuses an unknown player for free nobody cares :<

Get a random 3v3 and watch what will happen. 90% chance that u play against cheaters.

Nice read, but I will cut your balls off irl for mistaking then and than.

totally agree

AGREE

The ET-community is a tough community, and i think it's kinda asking for all the cheaters. Now how can i say that?

Quite a lot of people are the "ZOMGROFL I WAS BORN L33T YOU NUB", and if someone not-so-good wants to get anywhere, he simply doesn't have a chance without getting his ass flamed bigtime. Easy solution to this problem? Go download some cheats, get "born leet" and voilá, much less flame, provided you don't cheat too obvious.

So reduce the flame, and my guess is that we will see a decrease in cheating.

And how the f*ck is ET going to survive if all the newschoolers(me being one of them) getting überflamed by the community? If it continues like this ET will become(tbh it has already become) a game only for those who has played it for a while. For instance, playing etpub is considered überlame and noobish, but guys, we all started somewhere.

Why is it then that I'll play a 3on3 vs skilled, known players and either have a close win or close loss. Then an hour later play some random med/med+ and get totally raped?

Cheaters ruined 3on3.

2 weeks =/ 4 years and a bit :D

Stop the skillfaking :(

He's totally right. With respect for the other players, the game is much more fun, and that's were it is all about.

Very nice column. too bad there are currently so many kiddies/whiners on ET, but I also think we can do something about it, starting by ourselves, because there are still so many guys that reply on this column as "he's right, remove the kids" but a few mins later you see them on another journal typing stuff like "wtf, noob, skillfaker, hacker, etc ..". (I'm not going to tell that I never whine, but I do it rarely)
But I think it's going better and better with ET :)

pls go cry ... fucking emo
get a life LoL

d.RELOAd - alexl your the best cheater ever congratZ!

the community lost the respect with the removal of hitsounds for nades tbh :DDDDD

purge them cheaters!

everyones disrespectful though, not just the more "skilled" people. i've played against low+ and been called a "noob fucking skillfaker", maybe i just wanted some warmup? and anyway it doesn't really matter, /cg_teamchatsonly 1 and theres no problem.

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Save ET , show respect , get some dignity and make ET the respectful community he was ones.

Thanks for giving me such a good laugh xD

THIS IS EXACTLY HOW I FEEL T_____T *SOB*

and what can you hope from a bunch of kids?

Thats the way it is, you just have to deal with it. You can only hope that if you are polite and respect your opponent it will be returned. If its not, just ignore them, stay quiet and play on. Unfortunately people with ego problems will use the "cheaters" excuse to cover for when they lose, I personally will never call someone a cheater unless I've used wolfcam after the game to be certain. Although suprisingly I very rarely find a cheater, there's a lot less cheaters in ET than people think.

I don't agree.In the old times ET wasn't that known...Less player > less whine > less cheat : just proportional .. And Everyone is complaining about "ET worst that other games blabla" oh plz have a look on the most played game "CS" their communoti is just fucking shit...So plz stop saying ET's communiti is the worst of all the e-games :x

Back in 2003-2004/5'ish there was much respect in ET. I remember getting beaten in practise and official matches by other clans, and no one whined or flamed (well except the old Geh Ab). Back then there was not that many "new schools" that came from nothing and suddenly played at a high level; you also knew which players were good.

I would also claim that the community was a lot more mature back then, not that many flaming kids around. Another fact is the top teams, for the past 2-3 years the attitude of the top teams (I know this is very generalizing) has been very anoying; people think that just because they play in a top clan, they are untouchable. I don't know how to explain it, but back in the days, the attitude of the top players was a lot more mature.

That was my 2 cents.

"früher war alles besser" - "once upon a time everything was better"
isnt that a usual way of human behaviour?

the "nexus-affair" was a bad happening for ET but i still love it.

One thing I didn't see mentioned here is hardware. If you compare an average pc of an ET player they had 2-3 years ago to a pc's nowadays (not to mention about mice, headsets etc.) there is a significant difference.

Hardware alone makes it easier to adopt great aim in short period of time. Try to hit smt with your 20-40fps in radar :/

And don't read this as an ultimate solution or judgement in cheating aspect, just one thing to point out :)

Well if all the cheaters just stopped cheating we do'nt have to whine about them :D

and I agree with tiigeri.
I mostly play on my parents PC with 43 fps on most maps, but when my parents aren't @ home I can steal their internet connection and play with 125 FPS stable on every map except radar (100 fps stable) and then my acc will go from 30 to 40 or sometimes even higher espescialy with colt/luger most times around 50-60 acc when playing on my own PC.

And it's just a fact that when you search a low 3v3 you'll get hackers or skillfakers in 90% of the cases. Sometimes they just know way to much and sometimes they are just 10 times better and were just looking for an easy bash.

jep so true.
i have also been accused many times of hacking because i got busted by cheating in public and i have red warnings on yawn..Last 3on3 i played, it was some days ago then we got kicked - reason was : Nice yawn you got.

+ 2200 Views and 120 comments , i think this kwalifies for a Collum

nice post, hate the pricks aswell...
these days or you get called a nub or you get called a hacker...

*separate

there never was any kind of respect ever in ET, u shouldve been there when rtcw was there, now that was a game where most ppl respected each other and tried to help eachother out.

And tbh, you cant really blame ppl for having thoughts about somebody about cheating.. this community is fcked, more then half of the pricks out there are cheating.

so fuckin true
all those pricks saying things like

"pls"
"get hitboxes pls"
"sure"

and stuff, im fuckin pissed of it, coz i really just wanna play the game and enjoy it.
but everyone things he is better then anyone, and if u kill'em and they are flaming/whining u and ur answering, they are like
"who are you noname" >.<

<3 Manko, you rule

when did an online game have respect?

if u are clean, then it's just a compliment if someone calls u cheater

I don't think that someone starts cheating because he's being owned by others... Maybe the most pathetic among us do, dunno. Imagine you're getting owned and that you click '²' and type /quit to come back a few moments later with your bot.That means we're talking about honour here. But does it really restore your ego if you own someone, using a few lines written in some stupid dll-file? No, it doesn't. Even if the other guy thinks your clean(, which he'll rarely do) you won't feel any better. If you do, you're a lost soul imo, it's like believing in your own lies... I pity those, because they're ignorant. Therefore the reason for someone to start cheating should be the fact that it's forbidden. I admit that, back in the days of our good ol' 2.55, I used some rusty n7 because it gave me a feeling of excitement. I was curious to how a wallhack looked like and to how an aimbot worked and at the same time, and that incited my curiousity, I was doing something "illegal". (Also I probably got a bit tired of ET, because 2.55 was getting boring and patched to 2.56 a lot later than most of you guys here). This, btw, is the essence of the story of 'Adam and Eve'. It's a very known weakness of our human nature, although it's not always bad, don't get me wrong :); it can proove very useful as well. Anyhow, it's dangerous. We should be able to control our urges if we think they'll cause damage to ourselves and or others. Following what I just wrote, I can conclude three things about cheaters. Everyone started doing it out of curiosity (let's just call it this...). Then there are those who have sinned once and decided that playing clean is much nicer, much more fun etc. These are the goodies, the one that need our trust and who will save the community. On the other hand, we've got those who like cheating and thrive on it. I'd call those ignorants, weak pieces of shit (sorry, couldn't keep myself from saying this, respect!). And then, that's four, we've got the real, rotten, badass motherfuckers (haha, I love theatrical language), who create cheats because they can draw money from it. Capitalist losers imo. Here's the link to Manko's collumn: you're right Manko, we should show more respect. Giving others your trust, belivieving in their innocense, is better than being bitter and calling them hackers. That also is wrong, wrong, wrong. I'd compare this to the 'Big Brother' system in which everything we do is checked and double-checked by cameras, to register our illegal activities and to punish us. What we need is trust.

blame 16yr old kids playing games

Keep on making these random cheater rants you call 'Columns' and maybe one day you'll win the Pulitzer price....

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