Here I’d like to tell you what I think about the reasons why our beloved ET game is dying.
One more column about that? Yes, it is true, but not entirely. Some may say 5o5 killed ET. Some may tell me: stop talking and act. Some may say again: we already know why ET is dying.
However, there is a point that has been –voluntarily or not, this is not the question- eluded. You can disagree with me but a column entitles anyone, as far as I know, to express his own opinion.
ET is dying/ET will die one day or another , and thus because people from this very Crossfire community, in its enormous majority, do not seem to want ET to continue living, or do not even care about.
I am what you usually call a newschooler (member for a year and a bit) but from the very beginning I’ve started browsing this site on a regular basis, I’ve realized the situation had reached deadblock. A very few people here is willing to help new people (new ETPlayers or guys willing to discover competitive level or simply the ETPro mod and who therefore register here in order to be in touch with this small world of our) so they will ensure the survival of our game.
Q: What happens most of the time?
The potentially new players representing the future, these who will take over this game find absolutely nothing here (we'll put aside the two or three useful comments one can unearth in some journals) –no help, no advice, no guidance- but disdain, hate, flame, troll (I do not care what the precise definition of trolling is, you all see what I mean), and even in some cases voluntarily wrong-sided help. Let’s come up with the usual basic comments : “FORMAT C” ; “vid_restart bug” ; ”/quit” ; “reinstall ET”. Such overused expressions are blatantly not funny at all…
Let’s take a simple and recent example : This
guy, named gAzerX, member for a few days only, who is one of the potentially new players we DESPERATELY NEED if we want to keep this game alive, made a journal about the way to obtain some good cfgs. Almost no answers at all (pretty common after all) came from us -the crossfire members. He then made a specific comment in this same journal, which was written in a very poor English –granted- and instead of helping him, of correcting him, of telling him things that would have conforted him in his choice of registering on crossfire.nu, 42 people so far flamed him like I had never seen before. Another journal was even made about it : http://www.crossfire.nu/?x=journal&mode=item&id=131511
Now, look at yourself in the mirror and think: What was the need of such an idiotic behavior? What could it bring to me? Fun? Okay, but should not I think about the consequences my harsh and mocking comments could have over that new user before you unleash all that flame just because unlike you, he is not registered here for x years?
Your weak answer would be: Come on, every community has its "retards"; we need some people to entertain us (posting random gifs, random memes, random journals). I’ve been said that retards in the COD community are plethora (like in every game, deal). All right. But there is a slight difference that you don’t seem to notice between the COD community and ours : they aren’t part of a dying game that desperately relies on a couple of thousands players’ basis. They don’t care to act like idiots, uneducated kids, e-thugs, almighty-because-I-have-many-e-friends. They will still have players. We should care about what we write down there because every stupid action we take over new players, fresh meat has direct consequences on the future of this game. Welcome every new player instead of considering him as a dreg of society, an ignorant newschooler (such contempt hiding behind this word)!
Do you people want to provide a death as long and yet as smooth as possible to our beloved ET or do you prefer throwing meat at everyone just 4 da lulz, and carpe diem, if ET has to die, it will, period?
This column does not aim to make you people changing your behavior-human mankind is what it is, you tell me…- but it simply points out the real gap between what you say you want for ET (reviving the game,attracting new players, changing this and that, VIVA LA REVOLUCION) and the way you act every day on this community website. Think about it. Quick!
~Do something for your fellow man, not for the gold, but for the love of Man, and you shall truly have the gold.
One more column about that? Yes, it is true, but not entirely. Some may say 5o5 killed ET. Some may tell me: stop talking and act. Some may say again: we already know why ET is dying.
However, there is a point that has been –voluntarily or not, this is not the question- eluded. You can disagree with me but a column entitles anyone, as far as I know, to express his own opinion.
ET is dying/ET will die one day or another , and thus because people from this very Crossfire community, in its enormous majority, do not seem to want ET to continue living, or do not even care about.
I am what you usually call a newschooler (member for a year and a bit) but from the very beginning I’ve started browsing this site on a regular basis, I’ve realized the situation had reached deadblock. A very few people here is willing to help new people (new ETPlayers or guys willing to discover competitive level or simply the ETPro mod and who therefore register here in order to be in touch with this small world of our) so they will ensure the survival of our game.
Q: What happens most of the time?
The potentially new players representing the future, these who will take over this game find absolutely nothing here (we'll put aside the two or three useful comments one can unearth in some journals) –no help, no advice, no guidance- but disdain, hate, flame, troll (I do not care what the precise definition of trolling is, you all see what I mean), and even in some cases voluntarily wrong-sided help. Let’s come up with the usual basic comments : “FORMAT C” ; “vid_restart bug” ; ”/quit” ; “reinstall ET”. Such overused expressions are blatantly not funny at all…
Let’s take a simple and recent example : This
guy, named gAzerX, member for a few days only, who is one of the potentially new players we DESPERATELY NEED if we want to keep this game alive, made a journal about the way to obtain some good cfgs. Almost no answers at all (pretty common after all) came from us -the crossfire members. He then made a specific comment in this same journal, which was written in a very poor English –granted- and instead of helping him, of correcting him, of telling him things that would have conforted him in his choice of registering on crossfire.nu, 42 people so far flamed him like I had never seen before. Another journal was even made about it : http://www.crossfire.nu/?x=journal&mode=item&id=131511Now, look at yourself in the mirror and think: What was the need of such an idiotic behavior? What could it bring to me? Fun? Okay, but should not I think about the consequences my harsh and mocking comments could have over that new user before you unleash all that flame just because unlike you, he is not registered here for x years?
Your weak answer would be: Come on, every community has its "retards"; we need some people to entertain us (posting random gifs, random memes, random journals). I’ve been said that retards in the COD community are plethora (like in every game, deal). All right. But there is a slight difference that you don’t seem to notice between the COD community and ours : they aren’t part of a dying game that desperately relies on a couple of thousands players’ basis. They don’t care to act like idiots, uneducated kids, e-thugs, almighty-because-I-have-many-e-friends. They will still have players. We should care about what we write down there because every stupid action we take over new players, fresh meat has direct consequences on the future of this game. Welcome every new player instead of considering him as a dreg of society, an ignorant newschooler (such contempt hiding behind this word)!
Do you people want to provide a death as long and yet as smooth as possible to our beloved ET or do you prefer throwing meat at everyone just 4 da lulz, and carpe diem, if ET has to die, it will, period?
This column does not aim to make you people changing your behavior-human mankind is what it is, you tell me…- but it simply points out the real gap between what you say you want for ET (reviving the game,attracting new players, changing this and that, VIVA LA REVOLUCION) and the way you act every day on this community website. Think about it. Quick!
~Do something for your fellow man, not for the gold, but for the love of Man, and you shall truly have the gold.
e: actually has a good point, expected usual ET is dead soon column
I rather browse through 100 "random" journal with some new content than the same old "OPEN_GL PROBLEM", "How to widescreen reso", "Need low config" "HELP ME I CANT DO ANYTHING".
Sure that is just my twisted and deluted opinion, but I so hate people whom can't do anything themselves...
About ET dying, sure, some day it will when people get real life something better to do, new guys won't keep it alive, sad but true.
I'd say make a 'download W:ET' and a 'ET FAQ' button next to tutorials button at the top menu.
believe that would be helping alot.
Also a proper config page on cf explaining cfgs and maybe do have some cfgs with screen shots to watch. Could also have a own little forum where u can share cfgs, discuss and more
That button-idea is nice. Configs could be browsable at some tutorial-sticky too where you could disguss, with nuked flame.
yea idd :)
the search function is useless, everyone knos it
ET = too much for my laptop keyboard
And as a newschooler ( oh yes! ) I don't really know what I am talking about, but I have heard that ET started dying even more ever since 6o6 was removed
2. Crossfire's Searchfunction has been fucked up ever since the last crash. Fix it.
3. You're right about the flame, but you will always have retarded cunts in the community. Expand the admin crew(americans can watch the site on other times as europeans. get admins so u have a 24/7 cycle to make sure inappropiate and flame comments cant be found anymore) maybe the trollnerds will give up if admins remove every troll/flame/hate quickly(maybe a 3 strike system instead of warning points. 3 strikes is revoke postingrights for a month or something)
4. I remember that the .JP community made video tutorials about the basics of competitive ET. revive those vids and put them on ET FAQ or w/e
5. ET has a huge community, just not all etpro. Establish contacts with big jaymod/noquarter/etpub communities and link them to crossfire. Everyone likes the feeling of competing in something and the adrenaline it can give you, offer the jaymodders etc a place on ETPro. I think we will also see ALOT of skilled guys who we have never heard of just because they arent etpro players.
the only thing that is missing is ppl actually doing it tbh
Before I played ETPro, I helped admin a large and popular Jaymod server several years ago, and the clan I was with had a rather negative attitude towards "competition players" because of how they acted on the server, and what we had seen of them when playing a few tournaments/leagues (they tended to complain a lot about "noobs" and trash talked, etc.).
I don't want such new players.
I have a degree in bad English
/rage off
when the sage lan maps were released, too many guys acted like dicks.
i can imagine how some mappers must have felt when they red all that. I've converted some et maps to rtcw and all i got was flame and whine and trolls too when i made some journals about it.. i've quitted mapping just for that
Anyhow, I agree. I usually try to post informative and helpful replies in journals like that (or questions in general..), but when there already are 100+ completely useless comments, funny cat pictures, flames and people posting screenshots of their own configs, I just can't be arsed. It'd go to waste anyways because nobody can be arsed to read through all of that.
But ye, very valid points!
That's why we have 2 big communities in france, one for the competition, another for the beginners, or guys who are just fed up with constant trolling.
because we don't allow that in our forum.
Crossfire isn't really for beginners, they will get bash in this place, they have to find out the community of their country, where i guess and hope, people will be more friendly.
And if you look the activity on clanbase, damn this is great for a dead game then!
and as people said, 1 guy who cannot even communicate properly with others is not gonna save ET
why you hatin on francis?
on a serious note: ET has been called dead for years already, still people are playing it..
how the fuck someone could help him? atleast i didnt understand a shit
meaning prone, mg etc. all things that add depth to the game, and actually make competition much more versatile and interesting, to play, tactic-wise etc
i know no one sees this but i feel kinda strongly about it!
CF in a nutshell.
#follow.et for all new nubz
see ya later this evening
Majority of posters on here seem to play etpro/competitively in some way (or at least did), there's quite a big community of mostly pub players from all those crazy mods :Ppp
it's not that ET is lacking anything, got people trying to keep the LAN side going, cups/ladders back, new maps popping up all the time, slac and so on.
Just revert all the settings back (all soldier weapons, prone.......) get 6v6 more active since we failed not too long ago with it and everyone is dandy. Just ignore the trolls/catalan cru, goku, Majesty and so on and you've got it all! Even Urtier coming back <333
HEIL
what?
you are just pointing some facts, every -normal- ppl can do it.
this game is fun and have a lot of addicts, and a lot of ppl will stop to play ET or others games because they have others thing to do, thats the fact.
im not agree with your flame/troll thing, i think 70% of "problem journal" doesnt use the search function or even google for their problem, dont you think thats annoying for people to see always same journal?
( i dont say troller/flamer are right or wrong but everyone can help or not ) but a lot of ppl dont know the answer and just write random comment like: "hey im here ;D" ( i mean, what you call troll/flame ) and some are trying to be funny, to make some people smiling with their "joke".
edit: even if you wrote that shit, you are not right to tell me that im a retard
( http://www.crossfire.nu/?x=forum&mode=item&id=40995#comment1168407 )
there you are asking him for arguments when you dont have one also, i dont call "i saw u acting like a retard" as argument and a reason to call guys "retard" when they are not.
you probably never been on teamspeak with me,
you probably dont know me irl,
but sure you can call me a retard,
acting like a retard doesnt mean to be retarded dude,
better to think twice before to come and say " i dont come without thinking lol im always right and know everyone"
;p
Acting like a retard seems worse than being a retard, since you cant choose to be a retard...why would you willingly choose to act like a retard?
same goes for acting like a retard
same when you have shit ppl in front of you, if hes a shit guy, why lets not be bad with him also? :p
I have quit this game long ago but I have seen it die here. It's unfortunate that I have to say that people have themselves to thank for it. Of course, the game is old but it could be so much more alive than it is now. However, fact is that people can not see enough of a profit to make the effort.
The internet is a place for people to be someone else than themselves. This will often enlarge a portion of their personality without them being aware of it. How easy is it to type somehing and hit enter without carefully thinking about what you are saying?
Some of the 'wiser' people keep quiet because they solely get the feeling that nothing that they say matters. There are so little people that are trying to improve Crossfire or at least keep it up to some old standards. Why would they? If you don't like the the ways of crossfire you are fre to go and never return.
Crossfire has become a place for ET-players to gain fame without having to perform. People gain e-fame by trolling and arselicking as much as possible. Some people around see every new journal as a new change to comment and possibly a new chance to get noted by others. They will comment because they need to, not because it is even distantly useful or funny.
I wonder how many people here actually use that 'Report' button.
The thing is, for a lot of people there is/was no reason to stand up for themselves or for the quality of crossfire because it was far easier to just never visit the site anymore and find something else to do.
best thing i read so far!
+ same article as every year :)
ET as a game is cutted of from the rest of the world. Just take a look an own3d (and other sites) and realize how many games are streamed there and keep in mind that a stream for example is a real BIG oppurtunity to show a game to the crowd, which never played it. And now compare it to ET....... If u wanna come in touch with ET you have to install the whole game and you wont find any helpful informations about ET. I just remember ATI (was it him?) who tried to stream ET (so that people acutally watch to game without installing it) and failed or stopped it after a short time respectively. This community really have to open its mind and start to use the given oppurtunities (streams, combined lans etc.) or it will fail more and more......
Just deal with it or search for another game to play, because what you wrote has been written so many times and never ever something happened to change it towards a better future.
pretty much spot on.
thx for the word about the english level here, had to work a little bit on it tho ;)
Plus, I think this column might helped a bit:
http://www.crossfire.nu/?x=forum&mode=item&id=41049
figured it is somehow the best way
Flame in journals is just a little problem and needs to be dealt in a smart way. There are so many other things that could be done to improve ET's survival chances, it just takes someone to do them.
And after all, they are getting done. You just might not realise they're getting done.
also, you could try improving your English
currently it is indeed very difficult to encipher whatever you want to express or say
After all
"Function: Head Administrator"
"Age: 26 ( 5 July 1985 )"
no hard feelings for you pal, but proper English is the least one would expect from someone of your position
Big difference Rashomon.
If you are the former, then being famous doesn't have anything to do with it. How do you think I became head admin here at cf? Not because I was a famous ET player.
I remember the time when everyone was posting journals like "ET is dead" daily and it was just for the lulz. Tbh it was one of the most active times ever.
that's the main reason why they flame new ppl on this site.
*our beloved ET game is dead
everyone whats know a cfg not only the screenshot can everyone what that have send me pm with the cfg
Ready to delete every spam, troll or flame journal and/or post.