I sit here bored on a Friday night, after browsing the usual gaming sites reading columns and articles a plan (a very bored and spontaneous one) to write about ET and it's current state hits me. Im tempted to just let it pass by, hell we have seen another ET is dead, ET and it's future columns before right? Right. However, as I am writing this it is the first time that i have concluded that ET is really in a dire state and needs a lift. If it wasn't for it being such a lull period of inactivity, i probably wouldnt be writing this nonsense instead i would be nerding in a mix or just chilling in teamspeak.
2011. A successful year for Enemy Territory? Yes and No. Online competitions have hit their lowest, a time where we have gaming leagues such as clanbase enrolling admins that frankly either dont have the time for ET or do not care. My opinion of admins has always been that of a grateful kind, if it wasnt for them we wouldnt have these leagues or tournaments. However, i cannot be sympathetic to a league where the coverage has been produced by the crossfire community rather than the league admins themself. We also have the fact that the last EC final was not even played. There was some mix match for fun at lan between Queens and ECW/Winfakt but frankly whether it be the fault of the player(s) or the teams, the league should be pushing for this final to be played. The community deserve to see these types of games (ironic coming from me and the BFB situation). The future of CB and ET looks bleak, frankly the competitive community only play Eurocup because at times it can be the only competition on offer. It has lost it's place in competitive ET, the history and fame it brought dwindles in the past. This season we have a team in the final that is a mix (Queens) and another team that had potential to challenge Anexis who have confirmed that they are reshuffling their lineup after this very game. Go back 2 seasons ago and we had teams like Anexis and Dignitas in the final, we have come a long and disappointing way since then.
On the brighter side we have had the inclusion of various other online tournaments and cups. Dignitas cup for example was a great success and all credit to them for providing prizes and delivering on their promise very swiftly. Other tournaments have been introduced which were great for the community, Jeesports and Excello to name a few. Yet at a time when the game is crying for competition and activity, we have players and teams that are too lazy to register on a website. The game will never progress with an attitude from a community like this. If reports are true, Excello will not be hosting any more tournaments for ET, which in all honesty is a great loss. At times i wish the community would stand up and realise when it is given an opportunity, rather than let it pass by and push the game into further decline.
Offline and 2011. A rather dull year yet again, especially if it wasnt for
Seanza. SAGE and E-Series were both amazing events, events which i would love to see in the future. Unfortunately Seanza has a great love and interest in the cod4 community and i feel it will be a while till we see him dabble (if at all) in the ET scene. The lack of a crossfire tournament this year has been disappointing and one can only hope that it is on the cards for 2012 - which by that time, could result in the lowest participation since the tournament began in the distant glorious past.
The format. Now i could write for days on this subject as many people will know, i have had countless debates and arguments on this subject. I love 6on6, it has a great feel to it, back to ET and its glory days surely? Possibly, if we still had the numbers and activity we had just under 2 years ago. I was always against the format, even though i enjoyed it a hell of a lot more than 5on5. But i was always a realist. I have had countless arguments with fools that believed 6on6 would bring the game back to where it was and possibly even progress. Where are we now? A time where it takes 30 minutes to get a decent game if one at all. People were blinded by these selfish players that stated they would love to play ET again, if only the format would change to 6on6. They believed that the game would benefit, when truth be told these players were has-beens that couldnt make it in the 5on5 format. They dabbled and dipped their feet into the 6on6 format, but most realised it wasnt the format that had caused them to decline in activity and skill, it was just the fact that the community had advanced, the natural skill and aim of players had increased and these legends of the game couldnt compete no more. This statement will more than definite result in abuse hailed towards me, but i dont care. In fact in my eyes, these deceitful selfish brainless has-beens have resulted in what can only be described as ET's decline. You can say what you want about enjoying the game and ppl will use the lan card against me, but if you have no teams or activity you have no online games let a lone offline tournaments. It was a stupid decision and one which i wish had never happened.
The players. Unfortunately we have hit a period where not only activity is low, but progression is slow. If you rewind back the last few years you always had players rising through the ranks, myself included. Players like Jinosta, Phyzic, Chry, Kresti, Blad3, FLoPJEHZ, Jay/Hayaa, Jere i can list more. These players were all involved in teams finishing anywhere between 3rd in EC and OC premier. These players take up a vast chunk of the current "top teams" and we still have the talented players that have remained there. Looking at g2p and Queens as examples, you have a fresh blend of old but still talented players and the "youth" and newblood of players thriving to reach that number 1 spot. Fast forward to today's scenario and without causing any offence or flame, we have teams and players that have been around but havent really progressed. I mean, you cant really look at any team outside of the top 3 that could have the potential to be number 1 in the future. There is a huge void in the upcoming talent section and i feel it is a void that will never be filled. As stated above, i think most would agree that the average skill of an individual (mostly in terms of aim) has increased continuously, yet teams and players are at a stand still.
What is in store for ET and it's future. Well with the possible apocalypse which is the end of world in 2012, who cares. BFB was a great introduction into the community, even if that very community was robbed of a final, it provided great coverage and some exciting matches. Something that should be taken forward into the new year and raise the bar of competitions and coverage. However, i do feel that the lack of any exciting announcements, other than CF4 and Community Awards are on there way could result in even more players leaving the game entirely. There is nothing better than the present and right now the competitive scene has a shit EC final and nothing thereafter. I have never been so negative about ET and it's future, but it is time to face the facts. Unless something drastic happens, the game is in the state of RTCW where the odd one day cup will be announced and you will get a few good teams playing, but other than that nothing. Even myself and most of the Anexis team have been actively playing COD4 actively this week, i mean 3-4 days this week we played in an effort to become as skilled in another active game.
So the future of ET? Frankly i bet most of you dont even care, so much so that it has even infected me. So much so that i write this column not giving a shit as to who and what it offends, but just being brutally honest even if most of it is my own opinion. 2012 the year that FPS gaming reaches it's newest low?
As usual i start of with a plan, a theme i want to discuss in a column. As usual though i wonder off down an alley of wilderness, writing any dribble that comes to my mind. Hell I wasnt even writing this to get a response, more to get my feelings out about a game which i have invested a lot of time and effort into.
You can find some of my other feelings in an interview over at http://www.anexis.de/articles/view/r0ss-interview
I do warn you though, that some of the questions i.e. Battle for Britain are wrong, but you get the point.
2011. A successful year for Enemy Territory? Yes and No. Online competitions have hit their lowest, a time where we have gaming leagues such as clanbase enrolling admins that frankly either dont have the time for ET or do not care. My opinion of admins has always been that of a grateful kind, if it wasnt for them we wouldnt have these leagues or tournaments. However, i cannot be sympathetic to a league where the coverage has been produced by the crossfire community rather than the league admins themself. We also have the fact that the last EC final was not even played. There was some mix match for fun at lan between Queens and ECW/Winfakt but frankly whether it be the fault of the player(s) or the teams, the league should be pushing for this final to be played. The community deserve to see these types of games (ironic coming from me and the BFB situation). The future of CB and ET looks bleak, frankly the competitive community only play Eurocup because at times it can be the only competition on offer. It has lost it's place in competitive ET, the history and fame it brought dwindles in the past. This season we have a team in the final that is a mix (Queens) and another team that had potential to challenge Anexis who have confirmed that they are reshuffling their lineup after this very game. Go back 2 seasons ago and we had teams like Anexis and Dignitas in the final, we have come a long and disappointing way since then.
On the brighter side we have had the inclusion of various other online tournaments and cups. Dignitas cup for example was a great success and all credit to them for providing prizes and delivering on their promise very swiftly. Other tournaments have been introduced which were great for the community, Jeesports and Excello to name a few. Yet at a time when the game is crying for competition and activity, we have players and teams that are too lazy to register on a website. The game will never progress with an attitude from a community like this. If reports are true, Excello will not be hosting any more tournaments for ET, which in all honesty is a great loss. At times i wish the community would stand up and realise when it is given an opportunity, rather than let it pass by and push the game into further decline.
Offline and 2011. A rather dull year yet again, especially if it wasnt for
Seanza. SAGE and E-Series were both amazing events, events which i would love to see in the future. Unfortunately Seanza has a great love and interest in the cod4 community and i feel it will be a while till we see him dabble (if at all) in the ET scene. The lack of a crossfire tournament this year has been disappointing and one can only hope that it is on the cards for 2012 - which by that time, could result in the lowest participation since the tournament began in the distant glorious past. The format. Now i could write for days on this subject as many people will know, i have had countless debates and arguments on this subject. I love 6on6, it has a great feel to it, back to ET and its glory days surely? Possibly, if we still had the numbers and activity we had just under 2 years ago. I was always against the format, even though i enjoyed it a hell of a lot more than 5on5. But i was always a realist. I have had countless arguments with fools that believed 6on6 would bring the game back to where it was and possibly even progress. Where are we now? A time where it takes 30 minutes to get a decent game if one at all. People were blinded by these selfish players that stated they would love to play ET again, if only the format would change to 6on6. They believed that the game would benefit, when truth be told these players were has-beens that couldnt make it in the 5on5 format. They dabbled and dipped their feet into the 6on6 format, but most realised it wasnt the format that had caused them to decline in activity and skill, it was just the fact that the community had advanced, the natural skill and aim of players had increased and these legends of the game couldnt compete no more. This statement will more than definite result in abuse hailed towards me, but i dont care. In fact in my eyes, these deceitful selfish brainless has-beens have resulted in what can only be described as ET's decline. You can say what you want about enjoying the game and ppl will use the lan card against me, but if you have no teams or activity you have no online games let a lone offline tournaments. It was a stupid decision and one which i wish had never happened.
The players. Unfortunately we have hit a period where not only activity is low, but progression is slow. If you rewind back the last few years you always had players rising through the ranks, myself included. Players like Jinosta, Phyzic, Chry, Kresti, Blad3, FLoPJEHZ, Jay/Hayaa, Jere i can list more. These players were all involved in teams finishing anywhere between 3rd in EC and OC premier. These players take up a vast chunk of the current "top teams" and we still have the talented players that have remained there. Looking at g2p and Queens as examples, you have a fresh blend of old but still talented players and the "youth" and newblood of players thriving to reach that number 1 spot. Fast forward to today's scenario and without causing any offence or flame, we have teams and players that have been around but havent really progressed. I mean, you cant really look at any team outside of the top 3 that could have the potential to be number 1 in the future. There is a huge void in the upcoming talent section and i feel it is a void that will never be filled. As stated above, i think most would agree that the average skill of an individual (mostly in terms of aim) has increased continuously, yet teams and players are at a stand still.
What is in store for ET and it's future. Well with the possible apocalypse which is the end of world in 2012, who cares. BFB was a great introduction into the community, even if that very community was robbed of a final, it provided great coverage and some exciting matches. Something that should be taken forward into the new year and raise the bar of competitions and coverage. However, i do feel that the lack of any exciting announcements, other than CF4 and Community Awards are on there way could result in even more players leaving the game entirely. There is nothing better than the present and right now the competitive scene has a shit EC final and nothing thereafter. I have never been so negative about ET and it's future, but it is time to face the facts. Unless something drastic happens, the game is in the state of RTCW where the odd one day cup will be announced and you will get a few good teams playing, but other than that nothing. Even myself and most of the Anexis team have been actively playing COD4 actively this week, i mean 3-4 days this week we played in an effort to become as skilled in another active game.
So the future of ET? Frankly i bet most of you dont even care, so much so that it has even infected me. So much so that i write this column not giving a shit as to who and what it offends, but just being brutally honest even if most of it is my own opinion. 2012 the year that FPS gaming reaches it's newest low?
As usual i start of with a plan, a theme i want to discuss in a column. As usual though i wonder off down an alley of wilderness, writing any dribble that comes to my mind. Hell I wasnt even writing this to get a response, more to get my feelings out about a game which i have invested a lot of time and effort into.
You can find some of my other feelings in an interview over at http://www.anexis.de/articles/view/r0ss-interview
I do warn you though, that some of the questions i.e. Battle for Britain are wrong, but you get the point.
2: Et some new shoutcasters! (owzo is coming back soon...)
3: the announcing of cc8 should bring some life back into the game. (if there is one)
4: Night + squall need to re build dignitas, lack of competition.
5: The only reason there is a lack of top teams at the top is as a result of my previous point, see 1.
6: Needs another nationscup.
7: New + better admins in cb, eg Artstar.
Totally agree with 7, the current ones don't know shit about game or good decisions.
I am not sure about 6, even if it brings more dynamic to the game, it's complicated to find a team now, imagine if a NC would be rolling on... where most clans do some little break to focus on NC and so on...
I think at 2012 etx+etxpro+cf4+cc8 will play a big roll keeping the game alivee ;)
I think you're the one with the retarded logic here bro. ET has slowly been dying since ages and even before the switch is was already more or less dead. Using the formatchange as an excuse because your underdeveloped brain can't think of anything else is just pathetic.
Now you are going to respond with "zOmg look at the statistics" but I'm pretty sure that if you would make a graph about the decrease of activity in ET that it wouldn't actually show an exponential decrease after the formatchange.
Edit : despite my harsh words I'm actually not trying to flame you, I just get annoyed by people that take the first convenient fact as the cause to their problem.
The one player difference argument that you are trying to pull out of your ass is bullshit. Learn to think for yourself and don't blame the first potential cause that you can find. Having changed to 6v6 will not have helped but nothing would, could, and ever will solve the activity problem that this game has right now.
Before you respond that "I don't get it" : Yes I do, but the decrease of activity after the formatchange in is perfect line with the steady decrease we've seen before the formatchange. It only became a real problem now as it's very difficult to find serious games but it would have become like this no matter what.
It's just logic that it takes longer to get a 6th player, that you have less teams because teams have 6 players instead of 5.
Think about it this way:
Each 5 teams in 6on6 format is 1 new team in 5on5, looks like a small number but might do a big difference in near future.
And u clearly got no clue how hes playin when u say that.
From the fact that you are getting really angry I assume that you feel personally offended in this case, and yes, you are a lot worse in 6v6 than you were in 5v5 ( you were actually pretty close to subtop there ).
All my facts still stand though, it's not my problem nor fault if you are simply too stupid to think for longer than one second.
The 5on5 6on6 argument isnt exactly personal. I just cant stand retards like yourself that pushed for 6on6, realised you couldnt cope with the increase in individual skill and fucked off.
The fact that you have singled out one point of many shows how dumb you really are. The fact that you cant get your head around simple mathematics amazes me.
And yes you have more achievements than me, but my achievements come from a time where ET actually still had a strong competitive scene whereas you got yours in a time where it was either you or the second good team out there, because there simply weren't other serious contenders.
And simply maths? Please you must be trolling. I'm not even going to waste my time on explaining the simple matter, I will however enjoy provocing you some more if you keep responding to my comments like a 4 year old girl who wasn't allowed to buy that icecream from her parents.
And nice save on the whole Maus-argument though, idiot.
Syriusz kinda nailed it with his comment though you wouldn't obviously understand that.
Oh for the record, since ET is dead, why don't you go play CoD4? I hear that their community is also going down in a swift manner and that the skill is dropping rapidly. You know, you could start nolifing that game and become "successful" in the aftermath of the competitive scene, just like you did in ET.
But a certain someone that I'm on vent with has found the solutions : Make ET 3v3 only to increase the activity again! And with even less players on the field you could actually improve even more since there are also less factors that your braindead head has to think about.
From my column you fucking dribble.
Also, all my actual achievements come from before that time, I only used the bot after I moved to my appartment at university where I couldn't play anyway.
From the fact that you changed the topic again I assume you admit defeat.
Nothing personal.
why am i even writing this at 3am, it's not like i am "worthy" of getting a reply from you anyways
you are a fucking idiot, btw
Also i would rather play a active game than a dead game
brofist! :D
http://clanbase.ggl.com/rating.php?lid=11880 5on5
Think if you look at the teams, my point is proven.
Lets say you would have 4 good teams instead of 3 right now
What you are saying for 10th time is that LOOK LOOK 4>3 !!
What i am trying to tell you that whether it is 4 or 3 its still a dead game. Thats why the format change is irrelevant
Maybe they didnt want to get 2 new players or or couldnt get 2 other players and gone inactiv because of that.
it is just my opinion and u got maybe another one.
like doing tournaments with pricemoney, and other things to get the attention of new and old players,
then it is just a matter of time that et is rly dead.
EDiT: my opinion is still that the change back to 5on5 would bring more teams, and maybe more activity during the week for praccs and stuff .. atleast a lil bit.
edit to edit: that could be, but it would also mean that the game would again be less enjoyable for the majority (yes ross, that's a fact unlike the opinions you were so eager to present) and most likely wouldn't affect the outcome much since the game itself is on decline for numerous reasons and the format is one of the lesser significant.
But like u already said there are different things to change that et gonna be more activ again, but as long as noone is doing smth against, nothing gonna change and no copetitions gonne be there anymore for et.
Noone rly can say if 6on6 killed et or not, you just can say that the activity dropped with the comeback of 6on6
surely not a difference of dead or alive game like u are somewhat suggesting in some of ur posts..
And ps : I'm actually still playing ET quite alot, just in a "couldnt care less lets just have fun kind of way". That gives me the right to still comment on discussions like this, same goes for Oxy.
And yeah, I understand you and I even partially agree but not 100 %, but for Ross it is always black and white and his mind is simply not developed enough to grasp the simple fact that grey also exists.
I figured that someone who plays as much as you would know better, then again, I've already mentioned that your game-understanding talents are well .. not there.
Funny how in the best-players topic you are not mentioned a single time ( well, one of your teammates for "gameleader" , meaningless), while I am, sad that you are the only one who sees the truth about yourself.
the main reason ETs death was accelerated, was the switch from 6n6 to 5n5! too many (highskilled) players lost the motivation and interest in playing this game in that mode, since its less fun, less teamplaybased - since aim alone can now make a more drastical impact on how games might end, keep going onto this debate is going too far away from the current topic, so i stop it. furthermore im not interested in discussing this in any way!
by now, switching back to ETs supposed and destinated setup, it was obvious that those players wont come back.. after years where they had the time too focus on other things/games or whatever else.
5n5 gave the game the crack to a faster death. and dont forget it was the wish of the vast majority of the community to switch back to 6n6, to end this game in its best, most exciting, most entertaining, most funny and most joyful setup. people werent blinded by some utopia that the game will be back in its state before the 5n5 switch happened, they knew what consequences this will have.
and i actually cant see that much difference when im searching a 6n6 game compared to the last 5n5 times. after 10 or 11cet irc channels are dead. and before that time you find exactly the same guys each day again.
its unnecessary to even discuss this and which part of the history may had the biggest impact of accelerating the downfall of ET (tho i actually explained my pov right now, which wasnt what i wanted to do -_-').
its and old game, very old. its free, never got into any decent marketing, it never had any big support from any company - and still thousands of people playing it every day, just because they like the game.. it doesnt matter if these people are pubbing or searching for wars each day. et will end like rtcw. not entirely dead, crippling around with people who cant leave this awesome game. but most of us need to move on.
in the end we should be some sort of proud and grateful that this game survived that long, with major ups and downs over the years. it also doesnt matter if the downfall is obviously recognizable 6 months sooner or later, when the final end is inevitable - and we all know this.
gn8
Could you clarify your point for the sake of nostalgia? :p
(anyone who's interested, this is why I'm not smart enough to be a CB admin: http://www.crossfire.nu/?x=journal&mode=item&id=137043#comment3072209 )
ps. I couldn't see myself even attempting to apply as an admin at CB until fall 2012 because I have too many responsibilities atm.
and then they changed everyting and then they changed it back and then they changed it again :DDDD
nothing ever changed
Until more people stand up to do this work, the state of ET will keep declining and you can cry about it as much as you want, nothing will change it.
It doesn't take a genius to be able to bring something to the table, you just need to be devoted and motivated. It's really not that hard, it just takes time and is mostly boring. Don't expect to get recognition from everyone for your work, that's the last thing you get from this community.
If you're serious about helping out, just talk to any of us admins, and we'll happily help you grow into a better newsposter, organizer, admin or whatever function you see yourself in. It only takes the first step and the rest goes easily.
If you would help me with something and give me some tips I would not mind to contribute something to help the community.
chance to influence is difference.
just sayin'
I've been playing ET on public servers/funmods since 2004 (inb4 Member For: 1 year, 7 months and 30 days), playing ETPro in competition since 2009, so I haven't really seen ET in it's most active state, but I can guess how it was.
What could help to keep the scene more alive a little bit, is to get better admins in CB and/or ESL. The best option would be a list of available people, and then the Crossfire Council picks the best guy(s), and then get him in somehow.
And what about xreal? I remember there was something released a few weeks ago.. What is the people's opinion? Is it good enough to get new players in the scene?
We should actually try some kind of campaign to bring players from Jaymod/No Quarter/ETPub to ETPro because there are the most players.
I know it's possible because I used to be one of these players, and then people made me discover competition gaming and I just had to quit publics.
And last but not least, people should stop to be these wannabe-4chan-regulars. The community is really small already, and if you flame all these newcomers/MGC's, don't expect it to get bigger. We DO need those newcomers and MGC's if we want to play our beloved game for the next few years!
Meh, duno if I made my point
Nice read tho R0SS
Member For: 1 year, 8 months and 2 day
Il a tellement sucé que maintenant tout le monde le connait pourtant il y a pas longtemps qu'il et la :D
no offence goku
One line that did get my attention was: "2012 the year that FPS gaming reaches it's newest low?" - I'd write a lengthy reply but instead you've given me an idea for a column in itself.
ET dies year by year and there is nothing you can do about it. regular good-old-times gamers are adults now and no time/care for video games or moved to another game with bigger scene
if tosspot can get ET to hollywood he might save it :p
something like being able to download et (ultimate installer only without all the public mods + tzac installation or something with information about crossfire + clanbase etc) from some well known website that promotes games (something perfect that would never happen ofc is being able to download like this from Steam, but like I said, would never happen ;[)
One way around this could be to advertise around maps. Similar to an old game called Anarchy online.
Is there any way to get it in steam's download list?
But ET is actuall the only online game I liked playing, plus CoD4 for a while.
But ET is actuall the only online game I liked playing, plus CoD4 for a while.
This is so true. I played a lot of FPS Shooters recent and the only games i enjoyed are these two you mentioned.
I would also like to contribute something to the community, but i think my english is not the yellow from the egg. :/
It won't be ET:Xreal itself that will save ET since it only gives the tools to make the game better. What we do with the tools is up to ourselves. The game needs a total recreation instead of a small update. (see what Dota2 did for Dota or SCII for SC just to name few)
The help will most likely come from modelling and game creation communities instead of ours, but with a head from our community.
The above, in one perspective, is as much utopia as sending a team across the atlantic to play in some unnamed tournament. The only difference is that the community (physically, not mentally) is grown up now and capable of doing even more.
//
What was wrong with Wolfenstein once the WolfPro came out?
I suppose Dota2 & co are successful because they have publishers and money behind it. But I'm not into that so I might be totally wrong here ;)
BFB was an exceptional tournament because of the coverage and shoutcasting. I'm sure if another was announced activity would rise.
Currently though... well ET's "quietness" is undeniable. Its possible once xmas is over and people get bored of the latest games with fancy gfx ET's activity will rise again.
Just have to accept it i guess?
Just look at Counter strike 1.6, "cpl" 2004 the game had over 10k viewers watching on the "hltv" server, and many many streams. Now at such tournaments as Dreamhack Winter 2011, they had around 6k viewers.
btw, Nice writing, was interesting to read.
EDiT: but then again I would like to see if they could get the same if not more viewers with the streams etc that we have today! I mean there are like streams just for certain teams, different languages, different org streams, people like "gotfrag?" who just stream for others etc etc.
Just a suggestion, would it be possible to make it so that it is (I know this is a pretty radical / stupid(?) thing to suggest) harder to aim... More spread? Less damage? I know the drop off damage already makes it pretty shit for long range maps / stages in maps but surely this could be some idea to make the game more enjoyable for people watching and for people playing again! Whether they are new players or players that have been playing this game for such a long time (like let's be honest, nearly EVERYONE on this site today!) or even players that might want to start playing again!
I know I'm just another one that is just suggesting things that might make the game more exciting but that's mainly down to me not being online and also not knowing who to contact or how to make any of the changes above! The "new maps" discussion has been going on for far too long and let's face it. If there was a new map that was as good as frostbite or supply or any of the maps we all play constantly in EVERY game of ET today nobody would want to prac it because that's just how everyone is in ET now!
I hope this comment was slightly related, like I said I haven't read any comments / the entire post so I'm probably just ranting! PS. If there are any mistakes, blame this crap keyboard... I can't type for shit on it :D
I'd suggest b_wolfrof to bring back the old RtCW style of fire, but I don't think that would go over too well with the majority. :)
@owzo, the solutions you said doesn't make sense. The thing is, at 5v5, aim could win a game by itself, while at 6v6 we were used to see for example strikes or arties saving the game or keeping the defence longer if the fdop knew how to play properly with timecharges / spawntime etc... at 5v5 u can only have 1 fdop and it's mainly to give ammo or either put arties, there is less spamm, it's harder for a lower team to keep a thriller game.. sorry for my english
Not too sure why you would want to make the aiming easier though, surely that would just turn 6on6 into what you think 5on5 is like! (which is completely correct, 5on5 is shit and far too aim based!) :D
I was just trying to prove my point up, but what i really meant is: we need new maps with different objectives to keep people focused at teamplay or objectives. Right now people know the maps too well and can set up alot of different attacks/defenses. It would be really coold if we could have new maps, something seasonal for example! I have no idea how, but there is some cool maps out there to be played. Pirates for example seemed really cool and it hasn't been tested at wars afaik!
+1 on mg, I just couldnt get how people completely forgot whole discussion around mg few years ago when It got finally dropped off competitive configs. MG as weapon does not belong to competitions, it just denies everything that is nice on et, its static, boring, overpowered and simply lame.
But adding missile to maplist was good step by admins after all. Actually its the only map that favours teams who were putting effort to praccing nowadays, everybody knows how to play old known maps, so one-two praccs on it with team and you are good for the rest of the time. But with new map in pool, you either have to rely on general skill of your team or pracc on it and significantly higher your chance to win this map against inactive/semi-active teams which solely relu on their experience.
dunno which site it was, but cba to signup on page where first thing after registration is full of errors and no instruction how to fix that whatsoever. Obviously ppl will lose interest in playing cup hosted by organisation which is not even able to take proper care of their own representation. I wouldnt blame community that much for so called fail in this matter, in many cases leaders were registering other members of the team anyway.
I think it was not 6on6 as format that took a bit of ET life away, imo it was format change itself. After not so successfull lan-year since summer 2010 (1 lan since then if I remember correctly, but could be wrong tho) some ppl decided to get old good fun back in form of 6on6 revival. Obviously after 2 years of 5on5 and shitloads of flame on this, big hype begun at the end of summer, with random 6on6 cups basically day after day for 2/3 weeks. The problem is, this kind of hype never lasts long, and many of those returning ET zombies realized that they just cannot commit themselves as before or that innitial fun went away. So even as it seemed that ET catched new breath, when it came to forming teams for EC, most of teams turned out not to be active enough (or in some cases at all) and we saw how this reflected to EC season (shitloads of dropouts, teams getting to EC without playing a single qualifying game and forfeiting all their group matches, directly invited team searching for 4 or 5 replacements etc). So with the need of having 6 players, activity went downhill and I cant see it raising any time soon. And with having 4-5 active EC teams, it was really hard to find a decent game most of the times -> another reason to screw it and stop praccing since it wasnt really worthy of effort. Another thing is, when teams dropped off the competition, they just stopped praccing since they werent really planning on going on for next season, as I see it they didnt see anything worthy to fight for. Hope you catch my drift...
hey :D i've worked hard to get as much activity as possible on these onedaycups! By making promo vids and talking too a lot of people. Also for the crossfire.nu osp xmas server! I know i won't succeed in running a complete cup that takes several weeks, cause i don't have enough spare time & influence on teams etc.. but atleast i try my best with these onedaycups, and enjoy the most out of it :) as nobody else rly efforts something (except for sipperi & fietser)
ontopic: you are right, after 2012 its bibai ET, i had the same feeling this week. unless something spectacular happens which hardly will i think :(
nvm will make this post up tomorrow.
on a sidenote: i would delete that long comment flame shit from you oxy kevin etc, cause ppl won't even bother giving constructive feedback as they will just scroll through it, say "yawn :( not this shit again" and move on which is the opposite of the goal of this article.
For me it is easy to say this since I have never played on the high level nor cared about EC or other high-end cups. I am doing this for fun with friends, the game is dead to me when I cant play it with a smile on my face and good laughs at teamspeak.
ET has been in a decline for many years, if anyone is shocked by the lack of activity I'd be surprised. Although I'm sure there will be peaks and troughs in activity, it won't get back to what it used to be.
It's not about new maps, or 5o5 vs 6o6, or LAN's.
The game is decreasing in activity only because of the simple fact that more people are quiting the game then that there are new players picking up the game.
And players don't quit the game because of the format or the maps but mostly for personal reaons (time, work, other hobbies) or because they started another game. Different maps or more cups will not keep these players playing ET, not the majority atleast.
The only way to keep up activity is attracting new players, and tbh almost nothing has been done in the et community to achieve this. It is also very hard to do this, almost impossible these days as PC gaming is dying because of the consoles.
friday night and writing colums , what a nerd id say
only thing i saw was seanza and its great of this tl;dr part
Kidding, right? You seriously believe in this bullshit? XDDDD
Like huumeantti, Im utterly shocked to find this amount of serious business in > 2011. Good thing is I found one post to laugh at.
You are needed to make McDonalds tick.
E: Yes Im mad because you called yourself better player than Kevin.
who gives a shit about ET idd
LISTEN TO R0SS HE KNOWS ET BESTEST OMG OMG OMG OMG
PLEASE!
tl;dr
ET is a game that is a long way down the road, not many games could have survived this long without major organisation or LAN event support but as a player that has played in declining games in the past its more fun to actually play wars quicker and on a more regular basis then playing no wars at all, trust me on that.
no thank you with your cancer 5on5
ET is dying because people are leaving and they are not being replace with new ones, because ET is 8 years old game with no exposure, new players get awesome mw3 and bf3 and other yearly shit for their xboxes and don't give a shit about actually good games
ET is slowly declining all the time, 5on5 just catalyzed the process with stale gameplay
2 lans that happened, and finding prac quicker for ross highskill teams is not worth such change
there won't ever be any big highskill scene for ET, irregardless of formats
only huge exposure for the game might help, but in this console gaming age, when as stated, shooters are at it's lowest point, never gonna happen
making ET free to play at huge services like steam might help a bit, but it's also unlikely seeing how disconnected from reality SplashDamage are and how butt-tight Steam is as service.
Take my recent team as an example, a team that would've (yes, I'm serious) won OC Premier if it wasn't for the fact that ET is dying. People started playing other games, started caring less about ET etc, which eventually led to the activity level and unity not being high enough for us to be where we should be. When the team formed we could play decent against some EC teams, and win against every OC Premier team -- but after people lost interest in the game because of the state it's in, the team as a whole started failing.
This made me realize that truly ET is dying. Despite not wanting to realize it, unfortunately it's true.
I'll blame it more on the age of the game and that no new players comes to the game though, than on format -- because 6on6 is more fun.
I should rename the column to FORMAT CHANGES seeing as its the only thing ppl seem to read.
But the truth is, that I feel exactly the same as Ross..
He is so right isn't he!
Ross do u remember when i asked u to make the effort in convincing others like you (good players) to make like at least 1 week session for noobs,trying to play mixes with them and teaching them?you told me nobody will ever do that....there you go.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=djkDH5XBexw (don t know who this guys are but i just remembered why i still play et:because of the fun)
we just need to deal with it.
^^
tl;dr LOL I DON'T EVEN PLAY ET, NERDS
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edit: i read the clusterfuck comment thread above and came to the conclusion that it was nerds trying to call nerds nerds for nerding et. SHUT THE FUCK UP. we all play ET, by your logic we're all fucking nerds, WHO GIVES A SHIT
Children.
But relax guys! I'm back home in 2 weeks. ET shall live again.
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Too much negativity in this column. ET ain't as bad as we all claim. We went through this loads of times before (ECW and Masculine Mans in EC Final? and TAG 3rd?).. Competition will be better in the next few tournies, I guarantee it..
I am also disappointed that the 6on6 heroes claiming to return if the format was changed, are nowhere to be seen. I think it's a combination of things such as the skill of the other players and they find it difficult to adapt to and are not patient enough, but also other games out there such as bf3 , cod4 and brink (:D).
Christmas period now so should be some nice teams and good matches coming up for 2012!
And you are right we need more teamleaders with balls to create some teams. We don't need high teams only we are also in need of teams from low-med skill. Alltough the people should stay with a team and not leave after the first prac.
but guess some advertising would indeed help to get a few new faces
bitches
Why do I feel like my article is being recycled :(?
some months ago i had great fun playing with friends from n811en but being in a whole different social situation i also had to realise that its impossible to devote enough time as would be required to play actively. this holds true for pretty so many other guys i used to play with (of whom many had quit years ago).
there is no way to save ET, given its state it won't attract enough new players and all those guys in their mid-20s can't be blamed to have less spare time for et than they had when they were 16 or 17. format changes and whatnot are just the tip of the iceberg.
As for my "love" for CoD4, this E-Series Maximus is my last event for that community. At least for now I have no more CoD4 plans. I would love to do another SAGE-like tournament for both teams, but it's sad to say the time put in isn't worth what I get out at the end. Sounds selfish as hell, but I don't intend for it to do so. This community needs another Crossfire event as it somehow manages to bring the masses due to fantastic reputation.
If this community was to step forward with to me and teams showed true intentions of going to another LAN, I'd be more than happy to sort it out.
get on cs go at least youll have about a week of something active until people realise its awful.
Surely does not feel nice to be one of the has-beens though :-(
I haven't really been around for a few months but from the newsposts I read now and then about teams there hasn't been any 6on6 "Legends" that came back.
ET seems to be in its worst state right now though.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Haxc_RYnwqU
6on6 > 5on5