The overload ET side were busted on Friday for using hacks. The side came 3rd at CDC4 and have been an ever present force at the Crossfire events, I caught up with vila to find out why overload gambled their ET futures away.
Straight to the point, Having played for so long and worked your way up the ranks, why do this?
Our gaming "career" was coming to an end partly because of Kevin moving to Gent to study, we were getting sick by some obvious players in this game that could hack without any consequences, we never intended to use it to "win" important matches, no one of us ever hacked before, let that be clear. It was this 2 weeks, no more , no less
The point was to prove that FF were hacking?
There's never a point in cheating... , while using this tool ,which we received from our "Manager" , we could clearly see some opponents using similar programs. Obviously we couldn't accuse them at the period because we were using it ourself and it would be kinda lame to accuse them now since no one will believe us anymore
What was noticable about the opponents you thought were hacking?
Some players positioned themself so that they were always in advantage, you could see them adjusting their positions (without them being able to see you) whilst you moved through the map, a certain rifle in particular could adjust himself so that he could shoot a rifle towards you (even if we were walking and testing to see if he could spot us). Also some players held their positions way too long, for example , we're doing a main rush with 5 guys, and 1 guy sneaked to west, that guy on west wouldn't turn to main to aim at the 5 others but kept on "leaning" and camping at the west wall without any reason (our guy was sneaking).
Do you think that your teams 'outspoken' nature made the communities reaction any different to you?
We were always kinda hated, sometimes the hate was understandable (we weren't always as nice,but it's just fun on vent), but other times the hate was just annoying, people kept on flaming just because you wear the name and i think that i speak for the whole team if i say that we ALWAYS defend ourself and can't stand to lose a discussion. I can understand them if they call us the 'belgian' retards because of the hacking now, but i saw some people placing some comments about us losing our NC medal because we hacked, this is just bullshit :) , as i said, it was 2 "weeks", no more.
What if this happened to Winghaven or Night? Lets say that had similar motives, do you think the community would accept that from them?
Hm , a hard one, i think they might react in a different way because they have some e-fame which makes certain people look up to them. I can't realy answer to this as i can't see any of those players hacking, it's unthinkable that they would hack, but it could happen, you can use this tool without anyone noticing it, players with a decent gamesense know when they can do something and when not. It's not easy to track down a hacker with gamesense.
Does the fact that you got caught make you think that the 'system' works?
No, i don't think we got caught the way that you'r supposed to get caught, demo's, actions , pbss(overrated though) , anti3 (which failed because one of us turned the anti3 & the hack on during our pracc before FF and in the warmup vs mamut), didn't play with it during the official though. So i don't think that the anti3 program is very reliable. I do think Killerboy is doing a good job, he puts a lot of effort in making this community cheat free
What now for you guys?
We will remain friends , we just played this game because it connected us even more. We meet 2-3 times every month , we go out or play poker, we have a normal friend relationship, not a gaming one. That's what made our team special. I think our team would still like to play at cc but that's not gonna happen anymore, maybe some of us will play some other games but i don't think we'll continue together in a different game
do you have any statements or fond farewells you want to give?
I'd like to thank anyone that made this game so special for me, you may think i hate you all but there's a thin line between love and hate, I had respect for certain people running this community, people put so much effort in it just because they love it and don't want to see it die, it's very rare to find something like this. I'll miss the tension but it's time for other stuff now, it might not be the best ending but it's an ending that fits our team perfectly, drama and controversy - cu in a next life !
*Update* Having pieced together the timeline of events, Vila wanted to add the following statement.
We received an injector from xajp , you could use a no knockbackscript and an etbot (which worked as a wallhack) with that, it was coded so that you didn't need to auth, we received it before the FF game, some of us played a pracc with it, and some 3v3's but after the game vs FF (which we played clean) i went speccing some of them and it was obvious they were using extern programs so i personally sent the hacks to killerboy 2 weeks ago, and now it seems that he decoded the hack but he caught our ip's with the bot. I was assured that we wouldn't get banned for it but now it seems we did which I find pretty weird.
Straight to the point, Having played for so long and worked your way up the ranks, why do this?
Our gaming "career" was coming to an end partly because of Kevin moving to Gent to study, we were getting sick by some obvious players in this game that could hack without any consequences, we never intended to use it to "win" important matches, no one of us ever hacked before, let that be clear. It was this 2 weeks, no more , no less
The point was to prove that FF were hacking?
There's never a point in cheating... , while using this tool ,which we received from our "Manager" , we could clearly see some opponents using similar programs. Obviously we couldn't accuse them at the period because we were using it ourself and it would be kinda lame to accuse them now since no one will believe us anymore
What was noticable about the opponents you thought were hacking?
Some players positioned themself so that they were always in advantage, you could see them adjusting their positions (without them being able to see you) whilst you moved through the map, a certain rifle in particular could adjust himself so that he could shoot a rifle towards you (even if we were walking and testing to see if he could spot us). Also some players held their positions way too long, for example , we're doing a main rush with 5 guys, and 1 guy sneaked to west, that guy on west wouldn't turn to main to aim at the 5 others but kept on "leaning" and camping at the west wall without any reason (our guy was sneaking).
Do you think that your teams 'outspoken' nature made the communities reaction any different to you?
We were always kinda hated, sometimes the hate was understandable (we weren't always as nice,but it's just fun on vent), but other times the hate was just annoying, people kept on flaming just because you wear the name and i think that i speak for the whole team if i say that we ALWAYS defend ourself and can't stand to lose a discussion. I can understand them if they call us the 'belgian' retards because of the hacking now, but i saw some people placing some comments about us losing our NC medal because we hacked, this is just bullshit :) , as i said, it was 2 "weeks", no more.
What if this happened to Winghaven or Night? Lets say that had similar motives, do you think the community would accept that from them?
Hm , a hard one, i think they might react in a different way because they have some e-fame which makes certain people look up to them. I can't realy answer to this as i can't see any of those players hacking, it's unthinkable that they would hack, but it could happen, you can use this tool without anyone noticing it, players with a decent gamesense know when they can do something and when not. It's not easy to track down a hacker with gamesense.
Does the fact that you got caught make you think that the 'system' works?
No, i don't think we got caught the way that you'r supposed to get caught, demo's, actions , pbss(overrated though) , anti3 (which failed because one of us turned the anti3 & the hack on during our pracc before FF and in the warmup vs mamut), didn't play with it during the official though. So i don't think that the anti3 program is very reliable. I do think Killerboy is doing a good job, he puts a lot of effort in making this community cheat free
What now for you guys?
We will remain friends , we just played this game because it connected us even more. We meet 2-3 times every month , we go out or play poker, we have a normal friend relationship, not a gaming one. That's what made our team special. I think our team would still like to play at cc but that's not gonna happen anymore, maybe some of us will play some other games but i don't think we'll continue together in a different game
do you have any statements or fond farewells you want to give?
I'd like to thank anyone that made this game so special for me, you may think i hate you all but there's a thin line between love and hate, I had respect for certain people running this community, people put so much effort in it just because they love it and don't want to see it die, it's very rare to find something like this. I'll miss the tension but it's time for other stuff now, it might not be the best ending but it's an ending that fits our team perfectly, drama and controversy - cu in a next life !
*Update* Having pieced together the timeline of events, Vila wanted to add the following statement.
We received an injector from xajp , you could use a no knockbackscript and an etbot (which worked as a wallhack) with that, it was coded so that you didn't need to auth, we received it before the FF game, some of us played a pracc with it, and some 3v3's but after the game vs FF (which we played clean) i went speccing some of them and it was obvious they were using extern programs so i personally sent the hacks to killerboy 2 weeks ago, and now it seems that he decoded the hack but he caught our ip's with the bot. I was assured that we wouldn't get banned for it but now it seems we did which I find pretty weird.
I think that all your answers are just rediculous, no offense but using cheats inwarmup, that was saying that you intended to use them, but didnt want to get caught out
Nice interview btw tosspot gj!
classic
What if this happened to Winghaven or Night? Lets say that had similar motives, do you think the community would accept that from them?
"Hm , a hard one, i think they might react in a different way because they have some e-fame which makes certain people"
Of course not because they won't do it anyway just you betards are enough retarded.
"No one of us ever hacked before" - ^0:D and seriously unnecessary interview.
And did you see Hopes forum topic when we recorded their game vs S4rna etc. says enough
Have you even been in Poland? How many Poles have you met in real life? Where did you get those statistics about crime(I seriously doubt that Belgian police dept told you "yeah this country is safe, we have nothing to do ::D;dDd:Dd:D")? What is wrong with Polish "social system" and what is a social system?
Answer them or do not reply to me please.
I did met more than enough poles here in germany.
Read it in our books.
A social system is about democracy, about beeing corrupt politicans, about a fair lawsystem.
Yeah. Makes sense.
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We even proved that by deciding to give it in to killerboy to bust some ppl again, still I think its pretty funny to see we got banned already without any proof..
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(not saying they have cheated all along, just that this wasnt the first time some of them "tested")
so if that statement is not a lie ur stupidity got the best of u
however i think u just got fed up getting raped by better teams and started cheating because it was too frustrating to loose all the time
We achieved more clanwise then you did , funny to hear you saying that you get raped by better teams
Even now when you'r a little bit better you still can't get further then 2nd LB round EC
gratz newb
oh lol ur some ovr guy haha dont care about ur "achievements" u were never even good just others so much worse
its nice to hear even some neutral opinions about our team - its kinda defference .
however i gotta be happy that so many teams go there and keep ET alive (and that tosspot keeps hosting these events)
*Update*
rofl
I think so........
wiadro?
sort that shit out thanks...
even if these beltards are fucking morons it doesent change the fact that they are somewhat right... how people like wiadro and naga can keep playing this game is beyond me
still whole community see relpay as the most wonderful polish teams, friendly and skilled... what a bullshit :0
...NOT ! :ASD :DDD
WE WANT NAMES.
not, we all know who that obvious rifle is
p,s. they can send it to some other cheatbuster, it dosen't matter, or just make the demos public, i'm sure that there will be somebody willing to make some avi's of THE rifle.
"we cheated to show it's so easy that everybody can do that" ® vila
follow the path of ur master young padavan !
Didn't i already explain that i love cause they are so pro at what they do, therefore they cant be obvious. I think that wiadreko is cheating for 2 years and i think you cheated 2 years ago and maybe you are still cheating now but it isn't that obvious as it was before. I think that wiesiek is also cheating because of his poor lan performance but i don't think that everybody needs to play at the same level or even better on a lan so i wouldn't put my hand in fire for that statement.
p.s. stop replying on my comments it won't change the way i feel about you and your teammates mentioned above.
i didn't tell say you won't get banned if you cheat after the FF match. you were caught on anti3 and cheating vs tag when you got busted. and kevin admitted you all cheated.
the end
need a canoe to paddle through this bullshit
i neevr quite understod why some people whe they decided to quit the game see this massive necessity to cheat. if your bored of the gmae JUST STOP PLAYING IT. i've stopped playing this game for months at a time with no problem, i just find it as something fun to do when ive got nothing else to do.
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Or, you couldn't stand losing, tryed out hacks, got accused and send the bot and stuff to killerboy with the excuse you wanted to bust other hackers. Nobody cheated before? Think harder.
Oh and, recieving hacks from your manager, kinda embarrasing for a mgc.
orly? http://www.crossfire.nu/?x=journal&mode=item&id=71548
"( though I was also playing with public hacks together with Jetro when he got busted some years ago )."
+ zeto.
so next time you see fjirzu , keep my name out of it ;) K THX
EDIT: just noticed the acc got banned too :(
indeed, because Winghaven and Night are mature guys and don't act like 12years old kids.
Both Kevin and Jetro used public cheats (don't know about private) way before this happened.
What's fucking lame about accusing cheaters of cheating?
ps: voor je zon dingen gaat zetten doe dan anders eens wat research ofzo idioot :) ik en mesq zijn nooit gebust geweest..
what are you going to say if you see the demos something like you fucking hacker its not fair! :DD
if this was true, they would have only used it against FF, but no they cheated in all EC matches:DDDDD. fucking lowlife scumbags
Just these Olympics there was a tai-kwan-do (IIRC) gold medalist who kicked the ref in the face, and not only did his gold medal get taken away, all his previous records were also removed. I can't say I agree with that, but sometimes it's the way things work.
With cheats it's different too, since there's no way to know about before, and so it's easier to give the benefit of the doubt that you were hacking.
so killerboy was defending when kevin's avi came out. thats really lame. tell me whos keeping killerboy as cb admin so i can suck hes dick too.
You guys can't see the fact that they wanted to know how certain people can play like this "obvivous style"
Cause if you guys get a brain... lio, mesq, vila and the rest worked there asses of the come on a certain level together as friends... this is possible...
Since FiF gaming all started in the time when i was playing for FC and after 9 month i saw them in a quily for EC so i was like stoned and tought wtf...
So being a team and getting a chemie with eachother can make a team like EDiT was... And for the record Vila did give the hack to kill3rboy to give him the info and stuff... to bad for them they it all happend like this and that kill3rboy is a pretty smart ass and figured everything out.
(hell yeah let the flame begin Xd)!
You hacked, piece of shit. Deal with it, a hacker gets what he deserve's and thats a ban. I don't even know why you got a 6 months ban should been 10 years.
youre such a hero toss
thx for the interview
(i dont care about ur replies)
i think i remember an interview with MBugdet one time, which was a huge mistake aswell...
so why u dont bust them now? i mean u and ovr are busted soo it would help the community..
best regards for u, vila and acid and rest of the team :)
2) its not the same hack they were caught using
3) they said they deleted after they gave it to me, but they used it after in EC wars.
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If they can see others using hacks whilst they're recording will it show on their demos???
pretty gay you get ban after playing nice on all those lans :^)
ZETO AND JETRO ARE NC USERS SMTH ABOUT 2 YEARS
KEVIN BOUGHT A BOT 6-8 MOUNTHS AGO, NUGGAN AND SLAJDAN SMTH ABOUT 1,5 YEARS. JONAS USEING WALLHACK ON HIS BOT, BUTCHI ONLY AIMBOT WITH SMALL AIMFOV ON HIS ETBOT , MIZE USEING ETBOT SMTH LIKE 2 YEARS, AZATEJ USEING DIFFERENT AIMSETTING LIKE BUTCHJI . IM UNSURE ABOUT SQUALL, LIO AND VILA.
I KNOW MORE NICKS WHO USEING CHEATS ;-) JUST PM ME ON CROSSFIRE OR CB
They knocked on your door? "hello gnajda, we are haxzors bb"
who cares, if you didn't like them then you should be happy that they're banned, but everyone with brains know that they didn't cheat before since they've proven themselves enough on LAN's 'n stuff.
just don't make such a fuss imo cuz they're still laughing with it right now
Maybe see you again in the future, you were always nice to play with and nice guys in real life too!!
cya pwners!