Eurocup XV

by evantej • 17 Apr 2007, 17:45 • Articles

Eurocup XV

My annual Eurocup preview, kicked into gear covering not just the teams but the matches and the players. This season you will be treated to "real" coverage, hope you enjoy, and good luck to the players. Come check back every once in a while as more content will be added. - evan

Finland

Incomplete updated Shortcut
Croatia

elite updated Shortcut
Europe

K1ck eSports updated Shortcut
Germany

Vicious and Evil updated Shortcut
Group D Players to watch Shortcut

17.04.07 - Finland

Insignia Cadre 4 - 0 Sweden

ulimate Conspiracy - - Match Report
18.04.07 - United Kingdom

TLR.eSports 4 - 2 Finland

Incomplete - - Match Report
18.04.07 - Germany

Polar eSports - pi 4 - 0 Netherlands

Morrigu - - Match Report
22.04.07 - Belgium

one.soldier 0 - 4 United Kingdom

Dignitas
23.04.07 - Sweden

zerPoint! 4 - 0 Poland

Fear Factory X-Fi - - Match Report
24.04.07 - Finland

Insignia Cadre 4 - 2 Belgium

One.Soldier - - Match Report
25.04.07 - Europe

K1ck 0 - 4 United Kingdom

Impact-Gaming - - Match Report
26.04.07 - Sweden

ultimate Conspiracy 0 - 4 United Kingdom

Dignitas - - Gamestv.org
26.04.07 - Poland

Fear Factory X-Fi 0 - 4 United Kingdom

AuxiliA - - Match Report
unscheduled - Sweden

zeroPoint vs Italy

Retroactive - - Gamestv.org
unscheduled - United Kingdom

TLR.eSports vs Netherlands

Morrigu - - Gamestv.org
unscheduled - Finland

Incomplete vs Germany

polar eSports - - Gamestv.org

Summary

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Editing to death LoL!

nice hide skills

indeed:D

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rofl @ editing

sucky layout

really bad layout, no centering please :l

hoi

QuoteWith the exception of zeto all of these players gave fantastic performances at CPC2

I doubt you even saw him playing ... :x

online only

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exactly, i heard he played pretty nice?

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The lay-out sucks, the things you say are quite okay.

You have to edit some flags tho, as Winghaven definitely ain't Belgian and both Clown and the guy in elite are from Latvia and not from Lithuania.

Auron left Insigna Cadre, and Netherlands

Efax is in mQ as well.

Further more it is quite dissapointing to see only the top-teams getting a preview.

he left?

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That's what the newspost at your site said? o_O

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nice way to say, he sucked and was replaced by someone better! ;)

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That's actually absolutely not what I meant. I saw him play only once, and that was with Cadre against Octense in the EC qualifier and I thought he did pretty okay.

And it seems they prefer a FF8 character above an FF-X character ;-p

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in fact, mQ has me and Efax and will most likely not be playing with mize and ins anymore.

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[ flag=lv ] pls

Quote"With the exception of zeto all of these players gave fantastic performances at CPC2 "

he played fcking nice against zP , and he played well in the other games to , second day you can't blame him for playing a bit less because his mouse was lost and he had to use another one. I don't know what you have against us but what can i say, you suck anyway..

QuoteI don't know what you have against us but what can i say, you suck anyway..

I'm sorry, where do you come into this ?

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you just can't stand us , you flamed us last EC now you are flaming zeto who performed rly nice against zP, that doesn't make any sense , it only prooves that you didn't even spec the game nor followed the performances of zb ,that makes you a retard

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sorry unless you mean by "us" Belgians in general then i still fail to see why you are even writing to me, yeah i had a problem with you guys I didn't give you a partially good report and said you wouldn't perform and one4one would do. You (lot) flamed at me, i said i would apologize if you could win 1 map (not even 1 game) you didn't and you finished with 0/12. I have no problem in general, I mean just look at the one.soldier/mAus reports i give, clearly i have no problem with most Belgians, just you seem to think my opinion of how someone performed (in comparison of what he does usually online) at a lan concerns you at all.

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he performed well and you are just speaking bs

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sorry but i have to agree with vilango totaly unexspected (for me) zeto did rly well :o

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another nice read. but i feel some of the lesser teams deserve a write up as well :p it's just gd that we now have 3 top teams (tlr, d, i) that can feasibly beat each other. it will be an exciting tournament, possibly the best EC we've ever seen.

The teams that have no text atm, do actually just trying to paste it all over etc atm since im at uni ;o) they all get write ups!

Nice work evantjeh.

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feel free to say something you feel you would like to see as well, trying to improve this type of stuff but thanks! =)

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Sadly I have to go to martial arts now (I'm actually late :<) tried to get all the basic mistakes (hide, space between flags and names, and gaps where i shifted by accident) out. When I get back the other teams previews will be put up as well as some other stuff ;) hf reading guys!

500 views within 5 mins
1000 in less than 10 mins GG

=D ego whore at work

Only 744 views I'm afraid?

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wasn't quite 10 mins! i was guesstimating/being arrogant =D

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as usual ;-p

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ur getting a hit for every time some1 is clkcing on age 1 2 etc. So 5 hits a person + if they use go back and stuff:p

Keep boosting ur ego ;D

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LIES!!! If i get more views than last year, I will be pleased

11824 views, 121 comments - Last years

7400 views, 92 comments - This one, so far after like 2 days not bad I guess ;) doing your clan now btw so have a read once I've finished!

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QuoteMost will look at Dignitas failings over the weekend and point to the fact that talisman Night wasn't there, and sol was a somewhat Disappointment in direct comparison

Most? Actually you're the first person I've heard say that, but thanks!

Regardless of that, decent article - nice to have some coverage since we're already in the first matchweek and there's been nothing so far, although I do hope you'll be adding more to it.

Agree, your playing style is very similar to Night. You might not be as perfect as teh one, but I think ppl should actually spec you before criticizing you. Even before CPC you showed some great play. Imho TLR just deserved the win. They dominated the whole tournament. Its funny it took so long before another ET copied the idle winning formula: their tax, their teamplay and their stability of lineup. And ofc acozz, winghaven and maus were just on fire all weekend long.

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even wasted i phowned, so yea, fuck you revers :DdDddd

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Marlboro Lightman > acozz

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Are you saying r3vers wasn't wasted or something? :P

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I'm saying my wasted gaming skills > r3v's wasted gaming skills bwhahaha !

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Yeah well personally, I always add my EC preview the morning of the first game, and I will be adding to it. I was just scouting round on gamestv.org / crossfire sites and a small group of people were blaming the fact night wasn't there as to why Dignitas didn't win, so I guess I'm just trying to get as much variation (opinion wise) into the preview as I can.

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There is a difference between saying we (as a team) didn't play good without Night, and implying that I sucked - which is what you did (I didn't even play many of his positions/classes at all).

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hmm I tried not to say that, or at least thats not what I was implying. I personally feel comparing you two and saying Dignitas lost solely because you played and Night didn't is a bit severe and inaccurate.

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sol can't take flaming from a random, OLOLOLZ

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random ? I'm more well known than you meight!1!

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I got these great special offers on cod2 bots, maybe your interested, pm.

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Pay ? Do i not get it free like with the et one ? :{

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willing to pay once, willing to pay twice.

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h0h0 so true!

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"waaa waaa"

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lineup for v&e - 4i is missing

Read the vae paragraph and you will understand :P me/sheep agreed it was for the best not to include it.

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oops, my bad

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QuoteWith the exception of zeto all of these players gave fantastic performances at CPC2

what u got to be kiddin rly? :D thats the most retarded thing i heard anyone say about cpc2 thus far. dont make statements about things you obviously dont know anything about evan xD

nice read, to bad some write ups are still missing hope to see them soon :D

You call Impact "new kids" "new boys" like if they are some newschoolers pwning everyone :O how funny it is when we look at the lineup and see only ET fossils playing there :>

I agree about one thing, Tiigerii should be replaced by Mztik since he seems to be the weaker player in the lineup. No offense meant here ofcourse, he is still a top player, but if you want to win Dignitas or TLR confidently you need to put your best men on the field :)

anyway, great job, nice efforts you put in your works <3

thus the use of " "! ;D

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ultimate Conspiracy

flag=de] Butchji

Quote...on a cold Sunday morning in Enscende, Holland

Cold?!? You what? It was bloody boiling!

Nice to see you actually read stuff I write ;o)

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And it's Enschede not Enscende. By the way, some of your sentences are really long... Pro-journalists don't use them ;-).

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btw, its

doktor, not dokter!

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isnt it

kan0wne?

u mr. are the only person I defintly not allow to use any of my images.

create some own plz

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so sensless...again a new ec. can't you stop for a while? it's so boring...

btw: snoop doesn't play for zeroPoint.

Funny that anyone is even remotely interested in what you have to say.

thought the same

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who said snoop is playing for us? :/

lol, i was wondering as well, for afaik snoop plays with us :D

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suprise cockfag!

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'fuck you'

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you have no idea how much i worship kinder suprise

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that's what i just f***ing said :(

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busted! now we know zP behind the scenes ;)

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:DDDD hahaha so nice m8!

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It was said by one of Polars members at Gamestv afaik.

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inside infoz :x

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evantej you hurt my feelings :(

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so unlucky meight

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soz meight :<

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tbh

kiitos ;>

1) nils sucks (<3)
2) humm3l sucks (just full held him, fireball + rumba @ flag on sd np, finally shut fatty up)
3) wiesiek is not 2nd/3rd imo, more 1st/2nd, only 2 great players from PL imo are wiesiek and kot, then u have r1co, etc
4) evan get out more :D

kot/gotti/wiesiek top3 and it was the highlight of your day!

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never heard of gotti 8<

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:-o plays for netrunners, he's defiantly on par with wiesiek and kot

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ok professor _evan

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pro-gamer / programmer* _evan kthx!

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afaik gotti has a high ping, and thats his skill
kot and wiesiek have usually around 48 ping, and I consider them as the 2 best poltards!

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welcome to et

nice going sleep btw:<(

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jealously is a dangerous thing! =D

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doktor...

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well, true but he was semi active so.

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lol what about me :D ?

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actually we both fullheld but nevermind. still nice showing off with a 3on3 fun match. kinda 1337 that u beat us :)

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full held @ flag is different from beat :o0]

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thats true but it doesnt fit to the match we played tbh because as i said before we fullheld u aswell so np :]

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but we fullheld u @ flag and we're oc skill LoL

but ye, u have 2 arrogant players with u, so i guess u got to get used to taking this kinda shit from now on =/

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remember in 3on3 there is only oc skill :) and imo im not playing with 2 arrogant players. the ones who started insulting, flaming and beeing rude was u and ur mates we didnt even react onto it neither did we flame u on crossfire. maybe u should think about ur attitude =)

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You obviously haven't been around recently to notice i guess, but feel free to ask anyone about your clanmates arrogance and how much of a retard one of them is =]

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well i guess if i would ask the crossfire community about u probably half of them would tell me that u are a retard :) but i like to form my own opinions.

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Acting like a retard and being one, are two different things little newb

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u finally made me laugh

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ban the cheater.

Good work.

Had another read over this and I retract my previous praise. While I do appreciate that you're making an effort to contribute, you seriously ought to study your own language a little bit better, it's extremely embarassing how poorly a lot of native English-speakers spell. You misused the word "there" no less than 20 times (didn't I tell you that the word 'their' exists?), that is shocking. Grammar and spelling aside, I did manage to read the article and content-wise it was ok, although there was a lot of cliché amateur-journalist phrases in there. In parts it was as though you were using a (poorly spelled LoL) template and just filling nicknames/clans. Also, yesterday I somehow overlooked the fact that it was you who submitted this. You're a hacking idiot, fuck off already please.

Calm down, sol, nobody really dies!

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Indeed, I'm very lazy with they/there/their I admit that and usually I get someone to proof read it for me. It's taken longer than I thought it would to write and I'm quite busy at present and this obviously reflects in the "article" where some clans still don't have descriptions, and it get a tad boring to read (just imagine how I feel writing it) but something is better than nothing and when I've got some more time ill commit to something a bit better. My English is rarely poor tbh, I just find it hard to justify the extra expense of effort to satisfy, when 90% people read this don't speak native English anyway, so are less likely to care ;<

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maybe u should write these kind of things if u arent happy with them?

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Flawless logic sir. So supposing I watched a movie and didn't like it, should I first make a movie before I'm entitled to criticise it?

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Of course not, but your opinion would count for less, but I know you have written stuff in the past(even if it was just about me/cheaters it still counts). Thats why even though you kinda went off on a tangent with some of your points(and the insults') I still read it and took it in.

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this made my fucking day.

polar esports is definately not austrian. its a german multigaming clan!!!

thought wayne was Austrian ? :o)

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i guess he wont be happy hearing that :<
edit: u can hardly get any more german than Germany

wayne is! =)

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you happy with me using eu flag or would you like German ? :-) don't mind doing it since im edited it atm anyway

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id prefer

flag tbh :)

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done!!

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thank u :)

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How about you link to the existing match reports on Clanbase? :o)

Nice idea! :o, only problem is them lazy admins not doing them for all the matches ;D

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Every match is covered, supervisors have to publish it though.

Till now, there are only 2 wars not covered, and thats retroactive vs suXus and mQ vs EZ.

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Lazy supervisor* then! looking forward to reading mQ vs polar since i didn't get a chance to see it myself.

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You are lucky, it was me who covered that match.

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do someone read these 'columns' about et?

its under articles and (7902 views, 116 comments) no one at all reads this :'<

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10 of those 8000 viewers read this

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Too much bullshit on crossfire lately.:-(

:-\ thats not even criticism just flame. At least be useful

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why ain't I in some of the Line-ups??

Pasi Koskinen, what clan are you newsposting for now?

lol @ zeni's reply :DDD

he's asking for some m&m's

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Efax is overrated mr lets-preshoot-every-corner-in-case-of-someone-being-there

not rly.

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pre-shoot not really
im-not-teh-perfoheiser-but-eh-ef(h)ax

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homo

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You unbelievably arrogant for someone who neither plays the game or contributes to it at the moment. I don't care much for your comment/s (which are completely bullshit btw), you just seem like some oldschooler being bitter and jumping on the bandwagon really.

QuoteCome with some proof if u have it and otherwise do not talk nonsense.

Basically i could just say that about everything you wrote tbfh.

My CAR-15 > *
:<

kinda harsh to say we have not a single skilled player in our lineup, if you'd take a look at players like zerender or abort you'd see that they both aren't less skilled in aiming like the top aimers, but theres a little difference between them, they dont play for their ego, they try to use their aim for the team what is by far more difficult. for example just selfkilling instead of "maybe getting the super cool ettv-4-man takedown with only 1 guy gibbed"

Probably came across a bit harsh I agree, maybe my expectations of people are too high these days :<

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try the game without cheats, you will recognize that its much harder to play...

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I didn't cheat in et, and for to say something like that regardless is pretty ignorant.

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as your comment is

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thanks ?

Morrigu

Efax : To be fair, none of the Morrigu players are all that appealing to watch, so since most people enjoy insane aiming skills, then you could take your pick from the likes of Efax, mize, and rocky etc.

lol'ed.

too sad that they allow evan to post here....

He's one of the best newswriter of the crossfire community, so you sir have to shut your trap.

Ban him on CB because he cheated, oke.
No need to ban him on crossfire ...

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zero tollerance...

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#Bullshit

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in your opinion.....

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Seems like admins share my opinion since he isn't banned and still able to write columns/articles.

;)

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so we are again at my first post...

quote of myself:
"too sad that they allow evan to post here...."

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ban evan

who's talking?

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Froy the asteroid

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i think your comment bout zeto is a bunch of horse crap.
imo he played good but the otherones in his team exelled anny expectation. And that is because finnally they have some hardware 2 play with.

I judge each player by himself and he didn't really stand out from his team nor match how he plays online, I cant see how people cant see this.

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He played pretty well imo. I don't believe you saw him playing vs. zeropoint.
Besides that, he only played 1 war with his own mouse... you should have watched him on thursday where he raped one.soldier on the boocamp

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I will not lie i didn't see him play vs zP.

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he even did his turbo sniping vs zp:)

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QuoteI will not lie i didn't see him play vs zP.

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vib != one.solider

the players from vib who "irritated" me where lio and vila mainly and they actually said that a lot of people listen to my views and thats why they didn't want to come across as bad in my reports because people would follow what i read and think it themselves. Thats why i made a deal with them that if they could prove me wrong (about how i portrayed them) and win 1 map at EC (not 1 game, 1 map) then i would publically apologize to them. Actually looking back at my report i gave them I said I quote

QuoteThe skill difference in the team is too wide, and skimping in certain areas and the departure of zeto, although now replaced looks a pretty big blow as he was one of they better players.

Now how the fuck does me having a grudge against vib (which i don't) have anything to do with me saying zeto didn't play as good as he does online in the game i saw him play at lan? Please you know absolutely fucking nothing about the whole situation and flame for the sake of it, very sad person indeed. I've never once claimed that I know what I'm talking about but that doesnt stop me from being right 90% of the time now does it, i mean just look at my predictions last year. They were 100% correct for 3 of the groups, and if abnormal monkeys hadn't dropped out and screwed group d up then they might have been all right.

100000 views WTF?!?!??! Must be a good read... Oh wait, it's not.

your best doesnt even get 8000 views, my worst gets 100,000 2bad4u

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1) I've never written an article.
2) For your information 'oh mighty evan' - you got nowhere close to 100,000 views, seeing as somebody decided to rub it in your face that your views aren't really worth as much as you make them out to be.
3) Oh and the fact that it's a 5 views per reader doesn't affect prior results either right? Then again, saying that, probably only around 3% of the people who actually opened the page actually read it. It's fair to say that the majority of people probably opened this page just to laugh at the shit you write.
4) Comments - Have you actually read them? About 95% of them are insulting the fact that you've paid for hacks, you can't write in proper english & of course that you've talked bullshit about things you don't even know about (zeto & mQ for example).
Wake up and smell the roses.

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nice read

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Better than the article? I wouldn't be surprised.

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a lot better =)

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Nice to see your still upset about "my" comment on GN

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D'you really think you that comment would piss me off? Firstly, in reply to your comment, i don't consider myself arrogant, maybe i am but if i am who gives a fuck. In reply to mixer being better than me, i wouldn't care if he is, he's definitely skilled, but i'm not going to compare him to myself.

What pisses me off is much more than that - If you want to know, here's a few things:

You're willing to pay for cheats. You continue to put people down publicly & privately. You assume your work is better than other peoples for no apparent reason. You actually think you're good at ET. You think you're better than people for no apparent reason. You choose to insult people about things such as what country they're from for no apparent reason. You put down anyone whose opinion differs to your own, and arselick anyone whose agrees. You don't admit when you're clearly wrong in a fear of being flamed for it.

I guess you haven't even realised that the only reason people know you is because you're a shit admin, a hacker and you publicise your opinion, despite it often being biased and offensive.

Oh and by the way, you're an idiot =)

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Of course you care, you would be lying if you said you didn't, and you've said countless times that you think you would get the UK rifle based purely on your relationship with whoever was the captain was not who the best rifle was.

a) Please don't lecture me about cheating, since you have cheated yourself (I don't care what circumstances) in ET, and yet people choose to turn a blind eye on that fact.

b) I never ever assume anything, nor do I think I'm better than someone for "no" apparent reason.

c) Name 1 person I've insulted purely based on what country there from.

d) Name 1 instance of me putting anyone down whose opinion differed from mine, or arselick anyone who agreed tbfh.

d) Read above, you will see me replying to Rafiki and Licid saying I didn't see zeto play against zP (apparently his best game), so I have no problem with admitting I'm wrong, but usually i will remain arrogant until my point is proved ie vib last season @ ec

e) ". You continue to put people down publicly & privately"

You probably mean someone like Gifty, but I can't see what is wrong here, if i have the face to say something in public or tell them myself then whats the problem. Clearly this is were we differ, since you have decided to make this whole embarrassing reply in public, instead of talking to me on vent or on irc.

f) I don't think I'm good at ET I don't play enough to be "good".

You're so obviously still upset about what I said, and I'm actually a bit sad that you would do this. I'm arrogant no doubt but that doesn't influence my opinions or actions at all. Whats wrong with me publicizing my opinion even if it is biased or offensive ? I cant understand how it could be biased for a start, clearly as I don't represent anyone other than myself, and I've got a strong opinion no doubt but im not afraid to say it and would never edit "work" like you do/did to comply with other peoples opinions/expectations. I would rather you didn't reply, if you want to say something else than talk to me on irc or vent.

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DIE!

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:-\ this is why i cant take you seriously.

Parent

JUST BAN YOURSELF OR SOMETHING !!!!!!!!!!!

Parent

if all cheaters would ban themself, what would be cheatbusters doing?

Parent

just the same as what they do now! nothing lol!!

Parent

atleast they got you.. from CoD-hack.. and you are saying they are doing nothing :D

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