EC XXI Groups at a glance › The Discussion

Killerboy: Firstly, from the current season system, do you think we should change or improve upon something, or is this method fine? I.e using qualifiers to make seedings. Who prefers to go first? If not ill pick somebody :D
naga: I pick drago! =D
Sample: The qualifiers were pretty good actually. i really liked that clans should fight for their seeds, and not just be selected "randomly".
naga: I actually think the system is far better than the one we had before, since now it takes more than a single game to get yourself a place in the EC. Even if you loose that one game due to bad disposition or sth you can still recover in the latter match and still play in the EC though entering the competition from a lower poule.
Kapaa: And now we get new teams into ec.

Killerboy: I agree. What about you dignitas\drago?
Sample: afk ;(
naga: He probably never noticed that the system was different since he is so used to having a direct invite to EC =D
Sample: Could be true :P

Narrator: After a moment of dead silence on the channel:

Sample: Let's continue, i think he won't disagree.

Killerboy: Ye, ok then. We have also seen some "shocking" results such as ewave winning over diversus and also winning a map vs Speedlink did it come to you as a surprise that diversus got eliminated, and that eWAVE were so strong? They also won vs TAG in the EMS Qualifier. In this order Sample: -> naga -> Kapaa
naga: dignitas\drago is not included? =D
Sample: Kinda, but we gotta remember that diversus consist of players who are extremely inactive. With a solid team work u can achieve a lot
and tag is known as a mix.
naga: Diversus has some well known players in their roster. Particularly, Sarna and kot, but they are more of a sunday mix than a team. You need at least some practice before you start powning so I guess that's what they were lacking. Because of this ewave had a good chance of getting something from the game after all and they did.
drago: I think they have a huge problem with 5on5, as it requires to adapt and they rarely prac.
Kapaa: +1 to Sample: and this only makes good for the whole community and oldschool pwners find out that you wont get far without passion :D
Sample: Newschoolers rule the world :P
naga: Kapaa you make it sound as if ET was SERIOUS BUSINESS!

Killerboy: Is EC serious business? :P
Kapaa:: It was tbh, not anymore :D
Sample: FOR ME IT IS!
naga: I think this EC is more of a serious business than the last one where there two types of teams: mixes and actual teams that folded either way =D
Sample: The last one was a joke.

Killerboy: So do we agree that a competition becomes serious depending on which clans signed up, and will it mean you will practice harder this time?
Sample: Yes. last season wasn't serious business at all because no one was playing. now there are a lot good teams so there is something to reach. Sadly i cant with my current clan because matias and lepari are too inactive. Gotta keep myself in a shape with krp-mixgames.
Kapaa: I guess most teams keep praccing before EC starts and then it ends :D
naga: If better teams sign up it is most likely that you will get a better prac. I remember last season getting a good prac was damn hard. Most of the time you ended up with a team which you could pretty much outshoot and the prac itself was useless.
Sample: True.
Kapaa: But timing of Antwerp LAN is also good and maybe teams keep training.
naga: Agreed, teams always prac more if there is a lan on schedule.

Killerboy: To add with what Kapaa said, exactly after EC there is the Antwerp LAN and also the Danish lan few months later, and we might have a CC8 aswell, seeing how ET is turned into a LAN-game, if it was thanks to the change from 6on6 to 5on5, do you think it was worth the change?
naga: I think the change from 6on6 to 5on5 was not the only factor. Everyone had high hopes for Wolfenstein, which turned out to be so bad that no words can actually describe it properly. That gave an opportunity for ET to have a kind of renaissance and the 5on5 system was just a breath of fresh air it needed.
Sample: Nothing more to add.
Kapaa: I am ok with it but it's really boring to watch ettv and I still prefer 6on6.
naga: In other words, Kapaa <3 SPAM!
Kapaa: When I am watching ettv ofc i like to see some multikills etc :D
naga: When im an engie i don't like being artied, airstriked and rifled at.

Killerboy: Do you think the ET antwerp committee Krosan formed should work on making 5on5 more "spammier" or less spam is better?
Sample: It's okay as it is now. decreasing rifle ammo doesn't change too much and artillery charge time is good also.
Kapaa: +1 :D
naga: +2 ^^

Killerboy: Let's move onto the groups. Which team do you think we'll get the wooden spoon?
Sample: What's angeldust's lineup? Chizzel, illumise, withe, crook and someone. I'll pick them.
Killerboy: Vapor.
Kapaa:: I pick EU :D
naga: Call me crazy but I'm willing to say Impact. Their lineup changes every evening, i dont know who is their rifle and the brain of the team, toxic, lags even more than me =D
Kapaa: You are not crazy.

Killerboy: Group of death?
Sample: Group of death: C.
Kapaa: C, I guess almost every team in group C would win group A :D
naga: I guess every team in group C would have no problem snatching at least a 2nd place in any other group and i also think there is some conspiracy behind fucking tMoe up with that group!
Sample: Ovr is the weakest one imo, only maus carrying
Killerboy: I kind of agree with Sample:, as soon as maus gets full they loose the stage :P
Kapaa:: Yeah, it's pretty important to give comms if you get mAus full :D

Killerboy: If you could make a change to the groups what would it be (the only rule is, you cannot have the same clans who faced eachother during qualifiers)?
Sample: I would take one from group C (tmoe/eM/rockit) to group D and replace with phantoms or EU.
Killerboy: Phantoms played vs frogz.
Sample: Oh, EU then.
Killerboy: So did EU :)
Kapaa: I wouldn't change anything "ofc" and what chmpp said it's more interesting when you have group "s" which can not know who get into playoffs and in my opinion if you wanna win something you have to win almost every single clan
Sample: Killerboy, just one from group D except us :P
Killerboy: Only bF would be possible.
naga: I would switch EM with 1stCav or whoever else in that group that has not played against EM in the qualifiers.

Killerboy: As 1stCav played vs speedlink, you can't. Do you think c45 will pass their group considering they lost sqzz and razz, nuggan is now backup and ati quit, will reaz virtu and fobje fill in their shoes?
Kapaa: I trust Kamz.
Sample: It depends on Impact's performance. Their latest results haven't been that good. If impact can solve their problems, colt45 is out of EC.
naga: Like Sample: said it all depends on Impact, but also on whether Zsolt will be as good as before he left ET for CoD4.

Killerboy: What about vae and berza?
Sample: I'm pretty sure they are in top3.
Kapaa: Vae getting raped maybe 3rd/
naga: I wouldn't be so sure about berza.
Killerboy: Numeric told me they only prac once a week and its for fun.
naga: Unless they prac to adapt to 5on5 it might be a struggle for them. Furthermore if you look at their lineup, they have Wiesiek and Templar. Wiesiek is a sick aimer, but not the best reviving medic. On the other hand templar basically just waits at a corner trying to backrape someone most of the time. Unless at least one of them takes a more reviving role Berza may end up attacking with a single reviving medic on some maps. However, I think Wrobel can talk them into playing more for the team and get some revives going when necessary.
Sample: Killerboy, let's move on :P prac time soon.

Killerboy: Would you mind playing the EC Final at Antwerp (i.e if you are attending)? Blight, tmoe and vae are going i suppose.
naga: I'd love to! =D
Kapaa: Vae is not going! Twidi can't and also chmpp.
Killerboy: But you won't get into the final anyway! xD
Kapaa: Yep.
Sample: Wouldnt mind if both finalists are going, otherwise no because after all its just an online tournament

Killerboy: So Sample, if you are in the final against blight or tmoe would you play it online or offline?
Sample: If we get a sponsor we will be there... so offline. If not, online.

Killerboy: Is getting a sponsor hard considering you won the last 2 ECs and an EMS?
Sample:Yes, it is.
Kapaa: It is trust me. I have been trying since we won first EC.

Killerboy: So, I should mention to Krosan and his committee to work on getting more sponsors for ET, i guess this would be a huge boost for lan teams...... do you think ET can attract "big" sponsors that at the moment are sponsoring CoD4, considering ET is getting a good number of signups at LAN?
Kapaa: No, I don't think so.
naga: I certainly hope so, but it might be hard to achieve.
Sample: +1 to naga

Killerboy: Was going to ask smth about prizes on online competitions, do you compete for the prizes or for the fame or are prizes just a "boost"?
Sample: It's just a boost, mostly for the e-fame :PPP
naga: IT'S ALL ABOUT THE E-FAME!

Killerboy: Thanks for your time and good luck in EC and other competitions.
Kapaa: Shoutouts to Kamz.
Sample: Thanks dudes, remember garymate.