SLAC SUCK!
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4 Oct 2010, 21:23
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http://sl-anticheat.com/profile.php?id=1053
http://clanbase.ggl.com/humaninfo.php?hid=2802983&suspend=1
Got banned while playing todays match with slac but the question is how the fuck can i get a ban for "aimbot/wallhack/spike models..." without using any of that shit? I play with slac since release, same config, nothing new instaled on pc, no cheats on PC and still he "busts" me? How the fuck can i see the motive i was banned? A screen, a log, smt that can tell me that i was banned for some reason --' .. How the fuck can i apply if there is no ticket system for slac nor any given proofs that slac was right?
That shit anti-cheat tool doesnt even let me know why i got that "ban" so how the fuck do i know what cause this?
http://clanbase.ggl.com/humaninfo.php?hid=2802983&suspend=1
Got banned while playing todays match with slac but the question is how the fuck can i get a ban for "aimbot/wallhack/spike models..." without using any of that shit? I play with slac since release, same config, nothing new instaled on pc, no cheats on PC and still he "busts" me? How the fuck can i see the motive i was banned? A screen, a log, smt that can tell me that i was banned for some reason --' .. How the fuck can i apply if there is no ticket system for slac nor any given proofs that slac was right?
That shit anti-cheat tool doesnt even let me know why i got that "ban" so how the fuck do i know what cause this?
they like u
<@khaplja> http://www.gamestv.org/event/21590-waka-waka-vs-stopnplay/
<@khaplja> strider caught cheating in this match, they're still playing
<@khaplja> he's obvious when he uses it
<@khaplja> goto ettv for some lulz
edit: yeah go ettv for some lulz --'
and you should know best what you used :D
pbbans.com
would have given proof.
e: and dont tell me pb screens since that was like 10% of all busts if even that many
I mean, supposing that there was a false alarm in SLAC detections and someone got banned because of it (without actually cheating), how could it be proven that he didn't cheat if not even the developer is able to tell which cheat a banned person has used?
Oh, and don't get me wrong - I think SLAC is a good thing. But authorities shouldn't just go accusing people of doing something, saying that "I have PROOF of them doing this!", but failing to present any real proof about the said person doing the said thing. Just "I saw!" or "I know!" is not enough.
There has been one case with PB too, where it kicked innocent people for multihack something, and it is totally possible for SLAC to kick innocent people too.
Just sayin'
And who says he doesn't know? ;)
And the PB multihack kick is completely different. It was caused by certain integers being in your memory.
It was an operation set in motion by nC. They went in most IRC channels where a lot of ET players are and say the integer. If the player is playing ET OR if he is going to without closing IRC/Logging off/Rebooting/etc... Then he would get banned.
SLAC works differently, therefore SUCH cases, simply can't happen.
There could be other flaws, but I hardly doubt Chaplja AND SLAC would be wrong in this case.
One of them... possible, but both?
A cheatcoder and an anti-cheattool being wrong about a cheater?
I don't see it, sorry. :)
However, my essential argument is that the combination of SLAC + Chap (and KB too :P) would be pretty hard to get it wrong.
We have an anti-cheat tool designed by a very very good coder AND (in this case) Chap even saw the actions with his own 2 eyes.
Chap needed less than a minute to know he was cheating, though naturally watched longer.
What is wrong is, that we have no proof. (yeah pb blabla)
KB always said that no one can modify the cheat detection cases, so there could always be a false positive. And nobody can check this.
Chaplja has the information and checked it. It's 100% certain it's a cheater.
I'm sure SLAC collects enough info for him to say that which such certainty.
Other than that, this guy is obviously a cheater.
He first claimed he couldn't use SLAC, but then (after pressure by his team I presume) he loaded SLAC and joined with no probs....
And just by the way he posts and the manner he responds...it's obvious that he's a busted cheater trying to save his butt, but alas, no avail for him. :)
I love how people are never critical towards the things they should be critical too but are always bitching over the little things that are so obvious anyone could see it...
People just love things that aren't supposed to happen or that are rare I suppose :)
What do you mean with the last 2 paragraphs?
I talked about this on the IRC channel yesterday and I was told that so far all the bans have been 100% sure, and that Chaplja doesn't ban based on "something is wrong" reports (like with PB, there are violations and restrictions, the latter being the ones conflicts with legit software often trigger, and the earlier being almost 100% sure cheat detections). But that doesn't mean that someone could in theory have a faulty video card driver which isn't a cheat and doesn't offer any advantage for them, but could be taken by SLAC as a "video driver hack", and then they get banned later while actually being innocent.
But oh, pardon me. I enjoy speculating things and pondering even things with very faint chances of happening, and most people usually simply don't understand. I'm not saying that an erronneus bust has happened, nor am I saying that one is ever going to happen, what I'm saying is "What IF such thing happened?".
PS: the PB thing I was talking about dates back to 2004 and I believe it has nothing to do with netcoders.
SLAC uses heurestics detection though, contrary to PB who uses Cvar scanning and MD5 hash and whatmore...
The essential difference is that such problems like videocard'hacks' (that don't give an advantage) simply aren't detected either (obviously) thanks to the nature of the program.
It scans for cheatlike behaviour, which no modified videocard driver (or anything else that's 'legitimate) would cause.
PB conflicts with a lot of programs, the list is endless.
SLAC, has, as you know, for security reasons, conflicts with anti-viruses as well and probably a few other things, however, the conflicts with PB often led to kicks/bans whereas for SLAC it gives less critical issues like no sound, fpslag, etc...
In conclusion we can safely assume none of such cases will happen (actually a few already happened in beta stage, but chap was aware of it and no one got banned so it doesn't count imo :3)
I know that was your point, but I'm just putting this out there so nubs know what's up
Guess what 2time in the pb list and in both i was deleted and they say that were sorry for the mistake aka bug aka trojan or wtf it was.
so shut up and dont be lame
3:00
proof
I decided to spread the love with his account.
Proof cheater proof
:)
it's CONSPIRACY!!!!!!!!!!!!!
troll
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quotation
the fuck is wrong with you? .. claiming the tool is making false detections?
must be out of your fuckin' mind, arent you?
so chaplja thought he's cheating after specing him and "made him get busted"? :D
I mean... why him? :D I remember Strider not even being that good, he was rather whining about his opponent hacking usually :D:D I really gott a spec that match xD
I know this cuz they were talking about it on IRC.
maybe query chaplja, talk to him, appeal whatever if your story was true... what i doubt though... instead of making stupid whine and flame journals
... on the hand I haven't seen anyone else getting busted who didn't desurve it
... on the other hand I find it so strange that a guy with that much et experiece actually cheats. judging from someone's experience if ofc nothing solid to rely on. however it feels weird :/
Jan.
- Anthony de Mello
I won't argue with you anymore. no offense, I don't want to sound rude, but we aren't getting anywhere.
That's right, there can't be. It's impossible to prove you did not cheat, it's only possible to prove you did cheat.
But I guess that's too difficult for you to comprehend.
I won't waste my time on someone acting like you do. if you're that interested, then you're free to ask killerboy for what reason jAN wasn't banned. maybe he is willing to spend some time on a unfriendly guy like you.
chaplja > your face
bitch
so by definition its not always possible to know exactly what the cheat is called, it catches their generic behaviour instead.
http://www.gamestv.org/event/21639-xlibres-white-vs-stopnplay/
funniest part is in the beginnning he says: " i cant use slac, the game wont open" after 10 mins he comes back with slac on :DDD
and his name :D::D:D hes so trolling
"snp strider pale"
ps:"snp strider pale" means nothing!
go after tag.bimbot so
Likewise, as long as the cheat RUNS and even if he doesn't enable any features, he'll still get busted and banned for using cheats.
Just accept that he's a cheater and move on.
If you do not understand that then you're braindead.