ettv cheat-protected

by risee • 6 Oct 2010, 21:17 • Journals
Can it really be that hard to configure ettvs in a way that you can disable r_drawfoliage and wolffog?
I mean, in the past you were able to do it too..
Kinda annoying.
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ng 6 Oct 2010, 22:18
no clue you have, young padawan.
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Qyz 6 Oct 2010, 22:19
clue, young padawan no have
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risee 6 Oct 2010, 22:30
you forgot 'you'
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Qyz 6 Oct 2010, 22:57
you, me have not :(
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Neca 6 Oct 2010, 22:21
I'm guessing that this is a retorical question trough which you are expressing your feelings about how u want that changed in the ETTV config.
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skooli 6 Oct 2010, 22:22
Quote by http://www.gamestv.org/faq/24-the-gtvd-faq/On GTVd ettv servers the r_drawfoliage and r_shownormals settings are cheat protected - wth?
Unfortunately we had to learn that this was a drawback of the way we manage ettv now - if you directly connect the servers (which saves a lot of resources) instead of recording it to a demo first then these restrictions somehow leak towards ettv viewers. Their local etpro will then enforce these restrictions.
GTVd actually tries to set sv_cheats to 1 but most if not all matchservers it connects to will force it back to 0, thus causing these effects.
Unfortunately there is nothing we can do about that - thats just the way ettv works - if you want to use these "cheats" you'll have to use our oD feature after the game as these will run off a demo again.
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risee 6 Oct 2010, 22:24
hmm okay, sorry didn't know, just thought it worked in the past aswell :(
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RASHOMON 6 Oct 2010, 22:25
So there is no way to stop considering those r_settings as cheats when it's being used on an ETTV server ? Sry if I didn't get your quote, its quite technical lol
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skooli 6 Oct 2010, 22:30
An ettv slave basically "copies" the matchserver (so the viewer-clients actually "think" they're on the real matchserver and can spec everything and everyone) - this is also why you see the matchservers hostname and motd when you're connecting, not the one of the ettv-server.
Unfortunately the cheat-disabled setting is copied aswell and therefor you can't use it on the tv - at least not on livecasts.
Edit: Short answer is: no
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Neca 6 Oct 2010, 22:32
I just want to point out your still being technical with the slave vs master part :D

I know its basics for people who studied it but still they won't understand it :p
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skooli 6 Oct 2010, 22:34
thats why i added the short answer
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Neca 6 Oct 2010, 22:36
Why exactly did the old system get abolished? The one where you record it first and then start playing the demo on ETTV after 2 minutes?
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ng 6 Oct 2010, 22:44
eating the memory and cpu for breakfast.

OM NOM NOM NOM!
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Neca 6 Oct 2010, 22:50
Yeah might be the reason but still shit that we can't do shownormals etc on ETTV :s
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RASHOMON 6 Oct 2010, 22:53
DOnt overestimate my ignorance, I perfectly understood Skooli's explanations lol
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RASHOMON 6 Oct 2010, 22:54
Thank you, that is very clear, I got my answer :P
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danL 6 Oct 2010, 23:21
but r_drawfoliage isn't dependable on the sv_cheats is it? I mean, since the matchserver can have things such as drawfoliage and wolffog off shouldn't the slave copy that also? I understand why we can't have shownormals but don't get this
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douille 7 Oct 2010, 01:37
wondered that too.

It needs a fix anyway.
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FiLuS 6 Oct 2010, 22:40
well, u still can use that hannes ettv thingie and live with occasional crash :)
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risee 6 Oct 2010, 22:47
can't find it, search is disabled (this is actually worth another journal, fuck you crossfire :D)
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FiLuS 6 Oct 2010, 22:50
ask hannes on irc, i bet he has some link to it
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Felix 6 Oct 2010, 22:54
risee mad?:O
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risee 6 Oct 2010, 22:55
more like bored, so i was like "hey, why not make a journal about it?!"
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RASHOMON 6 Oct 2010, 22:55
Would you mind summarize this ? Whats that ettv thingie ?
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FiLuS 6 Oct 2010, 23:01
custom et.exe client, designed for watching ettv, provides extended spawntimer (u can see ur own and enemy spawntime at same time) and unlocked cheat cvars (so u can set r_wolffog and r_drawfoliage while wathcing live broadcast), maybe some more features which i cant remember atm. But its not rly a stable and it tends to crash with almost every end/begin round or map change...
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RASHOMON 6 Oct 2010, 23:10
Allrite, thanks!
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spiROZE 6 Oct 2010, 22:42
:)))))))))
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IceQ 6 Oct 2010, 23:08
just download a cvar unlocker! ettv has no pb anyways
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Webe 7 Oct 2010, 07:47
Just go to ettv with hax on.
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