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Why dont all you people that want to play 6on6 and not go to lans make ur own leagues then instead of trying to force something that would split the community and result in 1 lan per year.

5v5 split the community already, 6v6 will just bring it back as one big happy family :))))))))))

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5on5 also split the community.

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Into what? Keeping EC + EMS and additional lans? Wow, that really split the community.

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5on5 split the community into two parts: One that hate 5on5 and want 6on6 back, and one part that still plays 5on5 cause its forced. Hardly anyone likes 5on5.

e: And noticing 7 years after the game was released that the format has to be changed just cause its easier to organize LANs is imo hilarious.

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Hardly anyone likes it but still plays it. Say goodbye to a lot of top players with 1 lan per year. Everyone knows 6on6 is/was more enjoyable in one way or another, yet most that are trying to force this cant adapt to 5on5 or they will never go to lan.

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or maybe lans can't adapt to 6o6?

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ofc they cant, it takes more pcs more desk space/room space organisation sponsorship money etc.

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so if we adapt to 4on4, we save even more money?

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Your points are so invalid.

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That was not a point, that was a question. 6on6 LANs have worked for ~5-6 years now, and suddenly 6on6 is not doable anymore?

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lol gemb.. dont u understand et aint a big game anymore, and like every other game thats played competitive is played in 5v5. et cant have 6on6 lans unless we host them ourselves, bcuz the lan wont put 6 computer on the team lines cause ET wont bring in the same cash/players as cod/cs etc.. u dont need to be smart to understand this :D

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lol knas.. I think 6on6 made ET unique.. 5on5 nowadays changed the game style completely, there are hardly any fieldops or snipers left, sometimes even the rifle gets replaced by an eng SMG.. And now, just because of ~100 people that are going to LANs, everybody should switch to 6on6?

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i think 6on6 was nice to, and if et could have same amount of lans in 6v6 it would be very nice, but et cant. its all about surviving innit?

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Do you really need LANs to keep a game alive? ^-^

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yes... lans = advertisement

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and cold hard cash

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why would you need advertisement for an 8 year old fps?

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to bring new players who dont know about ET into the game?

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Would you rather play an 8 year old shooter with bad gfx than playing a, e.g., Cod game?

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why would u want to play a bad gfx game a s quake/cs/dotA?

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I dont think that LANs make ppl play more dotA lol :D and Im also not into their scenes, so I have no clue about that.

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dno either, just said some older competitive games

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maybe like 100 people a year might start playing ET. They might get as far as jaymod or try get all the way into dignitas. But ET hasn't got that many years left in it :<

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well rather live abit longer :P

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I doubt that LANs or adverts will lengthen the life of ET that much. If players lose interest regardless of LANs or not then so be it.

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ye maybe your right

but with more eyes on et we get more ppl talented in other than just playing good, we must remember that movie makers for example is attracting a big amount of players

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I wouldn't say that movies of ET would attract a large amount of players to play. Maybe 20-30 players a year max? Peoples taste in games has changed. They would rather camp around and wait for that one kill a round ect.

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maybe your right on that one to :P but the only thing who makes me wanna try some new game is mostly a frag movie :PP

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I have been playing ET now for a few years. It wasn't as dated when I first started! I wouldn't however start playing a game such as CS1.6 because I saw a frag movie. I am more likely to play COD4 or something because its newer and its kinda lower skilled players compared to CS1.6

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your right once again, fu ;> im waiting for brink, hope it will be good :P only game i can think of starting to play atm.. i wanna be a oldschooler in some game too :-D

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Funny you should say that because I think brink is going to convert quite a few active ET players and could well be the beginning of the end for ET (Just a theory)

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yea i really hope it will be good, i just cant stand cod and cs with the s&d :P i never understood whats so funny about it tbh :x et rtcw and quake is the only other multi player games i've enjoyed, i dont mind to much of the iron sight, its the dm and objective part who's in my heart :>

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Pretty sure Brink has iron sight aswell but dont quote me on that.

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from the vids it has yes :P

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I suppose its one of those things we will have to adapt to then im afraid :<

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ye, we cant have everything we want man :-P but at least its a obj game which is ets foundation :)

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I look forward to seeing the finished product :>

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ye me 2 :-P but first i need new computer!

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I doubt the gfx are going to be that advanced. Well hopefully not as extreme as when Crysis came out. No computer could handle the fucking game!

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haha i cant even run et on stable 76 fps so.. :-d ye crysis was crazy i heard from friends with good computers :<

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I think its time you deffo updated then :D

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:D yea, gotta get a job first ;< and im the kind of guy that says, ye im gon do that mayne! then dont :D

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ahahahah you make him so mad :{D
We share same thoughts!

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I dont want to make him mad, its great to discuss with someone who is actually not a retard like many ppl here on crossfire :)

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Someone who puts fire + alcohol in his mouth isn't mentally challenged? :XDDDDD

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these lans, where 1% of our community attends to, right?

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Make your own cup/tournaments then. Dont expect any 6on6 lans.

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Nobody is asking for 6on6 lans. People just want 6on6 back the primary format.

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well it was possible few years back somehow, must have been a miracle or something.

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You lose AEF + OOF so you have crossfire lan(s) left. No thanks. There is also a Uk lan that im organising which would fail with 6on6 format due to lack of teams. There is also another lan that is undisclosed that will be ran next year with 5on5 format too.

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maybe you should make your own cups for 5on5, since it seems youre one of the few who actually care to play it xDD

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Tell that to the players that actually plan on attending lans. Most of you cant adapt/wont go to lan and will remain inactive with 6on6 anyway.

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oh, how did you figure this out? just because we dont enjoy the game anymore, doesnt mean we wouldnt want to play it, if it were proper once again.

ps. not that it matters, but ive adapted to 5v5, it just happens to be boring and dull. I know you like it, but I dont.

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I couldnt care what format was being played as long as it maximises Lans. 6on6 doesnt therefore i dont support it.

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so you're only playing this game to play on lans and recieve some money? game should be enjoyable also.. not saying that I totally hate 5o5 but what you wrote sounded for me like that you dont care about the fun :)

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I dont play for money, i play for competition and the social aspects of the game. You cant beat competing on a live stage with 100 ppl infront of you watching you play being streamed to 1000's of spectators at home. You also can beat the laugh of meeting and mingling at lan.

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But is too many LANs going to split the community as well? Not everyone can afford 3/4 LANs a year therefore it might lower the attendance for each LAN.

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I totally understand you and you're probably talking on behalf of every lan attendee but it's still only a small amount of et players :) but nevermind this 5o5/6o6 discussion is leading nowhere anyway

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A lot of ppl switched to 3on3 instead of playing 5on5, so why dont you just get some more guys that help you with organizing lans and keep the format as it was before, if everybody likes 6on6?

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Because lans such as AEF OOF and other lans on the table next year cant provide a 6on6 tournament for the reasons stated above.

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top players left mostly because 5on5 was forced.

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Like who ?

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Winghaven, sNoOp, butchji e.g.

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Winghaven played at AEF, snoop is playing with SL and butchji is ...

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Winghaven and butchji mainly play 3on3 now and sNoOp took a brake cause they hate 5on5

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Snoop is playing With Speelink, Winghaven will attend every lan no matter what format. So name me some skilled players that quit cos of 5on5 except for butchji :DDDD

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yea sNoOp is playing with speedlink now, but my point was that the biggest part of the community (at least 90%) would appreciate if 6on6 would have a comeback. And how can you be so sure that Winghaven will attend every lan?

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90% is a bit much !

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I've seen so many people complaining about 5on5, so many Clans that named theirselves "get 6on6 back", and so many journals about how much 5on5 is hated, thats why I'm pretty sure with that number :)

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thats probably because the people who are happy with the current format don't feel the need to make journals / clans / comments about how good 5o5 is and how much they love it cause it currently is 5o5. I also think the odds would be in favour of 6o6 and I'd also prefer to see it being played again but I'm doubting that it's gonna happen, which is a shame.

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Yeah I also think thats bad, but the worst thing is that some people force it and you have no chance to do anything against it except playing 6on6 mixes or cups :/ Me, for my part, won't play 5on5 serious cause I won't let me force to play something that I hate.

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the people forcing the change are the people who have everything under control, 6o6 would need its own cup/lan/league for it to have any impact on the current teams but that would divide the community which sucks so I think we are stuck with 5o5 until the leading organizations/people agree on changing ET back to 6o6.

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Would be nice to see a splited community, wanna see if they still can play lan then :)

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ye boredom made me forget how painful this shit is to play ^^

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I didn't quit because of 5on5. (I don't like it though)

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I know you didnt quit because 5on5 but people wouldnt have believed me if i typed it, hence the :DDDDDD

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how big part of ppl who are still playing because of lans (those few top teams) seriously enjoy the game 100%? I have strong feeling it's more about that they just stubbornly want to keep their status in the scene. radical? not necessarily.

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Compare the signups of AEF, cc7 to any other lan ran in 6on6 format and also take into consideration the vast amount of cod4 teams and players and think how and why 6on6 format wouldnt have worked. ET running alongside cod4 is great advertisement.

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cc6 was 6o6 though :P

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Edited :P

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cc6 didnt have cod4 :0

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QuoteCrossfire Challenge 6 hosted Enemy Territory 6v6 and Call of Duty: 4 5v5. A long story short; this presented a logistical nightmare.

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cod4 has been at cc4, cc5, cc7. =)

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quoted from the collumn

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stu didnt think cod4 was active enough to be at cc6, thus it wasnt there :)

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just copying what I read :_P

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it's hard for me to objectively consider things about LANs too much because I can always attend if I want to. it's just that there won't be any 5o5 LAN I'd play at.

"ET running alongside cod4 is great advertisement."
I have to be honest now: I don't really give a fuck, no offense.

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Kinda selfish pov then.

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have former LANs alongside cod4 helped ET?

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I see some pretty big orgs supporting ET nowadays. Its a great chance for advertisement and sponsorships when u get 2k streaming finals, biggest orgs playing alongside u in various games.

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"I see some pretty big orgs supporting ET nowadays."

that's what I was thinking when we joined TLR for cdc4, but the truth was something totally different. nowadays i'm at least extremely sceptic about support and already for some time when we've joined mgcs who promise things I've expected absolutely nothing. if things happen to be different now, there's absolutely no bitterness, i'm happy for it. will be seeing how things really go when the next lan is.

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you do understand the only reason you get any prizemoney online is because of the LANs that orgs are able to advertise themselves at via ET? right?

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I do not care about prizemoneys if the game isn't even fun. It's stupid to even think that ppl would play ET for money or other prizes. Btw, even if there is some money (eg. ESL), how many ppl really got the money from there in time or at all? In ET you can't really rely on getting anything, but should just play the game if it's any fun. Just my 2 cents.

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Finland

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Pretty sure sure a Clanbase quick cup won't split the community in 2. That's just a retarded comment :/

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A quick cup wont and im all for the idea. However a majority of the players flaming 5on5 would play this cup and try to force the format permanently

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By additional LANs, you mean Aalborghff? Be more specific!

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QuoteKeeping EC + EMS

WHAT? :D

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QuoteNote: this is only for a laugh and i'm hoping to see some teams really try signup!

If you don't want to take part thats fine!

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5on5 result into 2 lans per year ;€

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I already know of at least 3 that will happen this year. With 2 others being discussed/organised as we speak.

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i like everything what help ET beeing alive, but i started to believe this stuff only when i sit at the tournament table and play :)

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Well maybe get involved behind the scenes and actually see whats going to happen in terms of lans this year.

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dont speak like you dont know what i mean... aal *cough* borg ;)

basicly im always up for helping, but atm i just dont wanna promise help which i cant provide cuz of my free time.

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aalborg was a complete disaster but was being ran/organised by 1 guy on his own. These lans that im talking about have the support and backing of numerous ppl. It will be the biggest year in terms of lan and prize money 100%

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I hope you are right mate :)

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I can confirm he is right on this!

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but does a small community like et needs 5 lans?

only 8 teams or so got some decent support, so it would only benefit them :P

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man, ignore these homo's, i agree with your pov.
infact if theres any extra help you need for the UK lan or anything else, let me know!

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Interested in getting a coverage boy like garin \o/

I would love to see some new skilled 6on6 matches on ettv

great, I'll play!

Get a team started!

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me too!

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gonna laugh hard when some admin deletes this journal :p.

Will be as funny as :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=upaJHS8mfP8&NR

:{D

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Someone make a gif from 0.52 to 0.57

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lol

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DO IT

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merc avi if its happening

I cant believe some people still promote the idea that its a good thing to ruin the game so we get one more lan / year.

but in a way its funny, usually its those people who never adapted to 6v6 and now when they found a nobrain format, they want to stick to it. :)

I cant believe inactive players that could never adapt to 5on5 and wont attend any upcoming lans are trying to force the format to 6on6 resulting in 1 lan per year.

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Your only argument is "lan"

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I doubt youre talking of me, but if you are, I adapted to 5v5, its pure bullshit and I'd love to play some PROPER ET again at LAN so I guess that pretty much nullifies your argument.

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What was the last lan you attended ?

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CC5 - When the game was still 6on6, thank you very much.

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:--------D

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Did you play ?

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Actually I think I did! But yeah, mostly I went there to support our great community and spend time with them, the lovely 6v6 community. remember those days? good old days, eh?! :))

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:DDDDDDDDDD

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Oh btw, where were you at cc6 - a 6on6 tournament :DDDDDD ?

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believe it or not, not all of us are nerds playing 24/7 and attending every lan there is :)
I like to play because the game is fun and competive.

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Thanks for clarifying that :-)

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no problem, seemed like you were wandering in the dark about this issue. :))

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Just to clarify. I am NOT trying to cut the number of LANs down to 1 a year. I am simply offering teams and players a chance to give 6on6 a go. The LANs will NOT change back to 6on6 and everyone will have to accept this. But why not play a bit of ET that is slightly more enjoyable for a couple a weeks and then revert back to 5on5? Who knows it might get a few older players who have stopped playing over the years and get them playing again.

This is just a quick cup that will last 2 weeks and I hope people have a laugh when playing!

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the whole argument that lans seize to exist because we change our lovely format back is plain bullshit. nothing prevents us from being a community and arranging things for our benefit.

and no, my comment wasnt pointed at you, I was talking about 5v5.

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Feel free to ask Krosan/Steven whether AEF and OOF would run lans with 6on6 format. I wouldnt organise the UK lan that i am preparing with a 6on6 format otherwise there wouldnt be enough teams.

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yeah, the only reason we ever switched to 5v5 cuz of one belgian lan that wouldnt take a team of 6. xDDDDDDDDDDDDD

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It was originally crossfire lan that sparked the 5on5 format. AEF was announced well after the first 5on5 Crossfire LAN Because we had adapted to this format.

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actually aef was the reason they pushed forward for the decision, since it simply could have not happened if it wasnt for this change.

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Allthough in saying this. Do you not think that AEF was a huge success in seeing of the likes of CS:S being played there? I mean that in itself is a pretty big achievement and has caught the eye of many Multi gaming teams to once again come back to ET.

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ET is pretty small in this area anyway so I dont really see it impacting enough as its the only reason to keep ET 5v5 while many are against it due to "missing" of fun and feel.

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I do enjoy playing both 5on5 and 6on6. I just would like to see more peopel embrace the need to keep 5on5 though. The whole idea about having this 6on6 cup is so people can realize that ET is actually still fun and they can adapt to 5on5. People that are going to constantly bitch about which ever format we are playing are not helping any cause. Admins will not change their minds about the format and your only making it harder to keep alive the way it is.

Note this is defiantly NOT a personal attack. I just wish that some people who do enjoy playing ET and want to see if do well give 5on5 more of a chance. It is fun to play... its deffo still ET and NOT CampOrDie4

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Didn't the CSS tourney get cancelled because of little to no signups? :P
There was only cod and et at aef afaik :)

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Yes but that goes to show you how well ET is doing running 5on5. AEF wouldn't give us the opportunity to do that it the format was 6on6. It's just down the the LAN organizers

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I think ross is talking on behalf of the regular LAN attendee's though. He enjoys going to LAN and participating which I don't blame him because I do enjoy it as well. Maybe he wants more because with his current team he is guaranteed to come in the money? Either way it wont change things. ET is going to remain 5on5 unless Crossfire LAN is suddenly changed (which it won't be) because all the big names will attend. Therefore Clanbase and ESL will continue to support 5on5 only because its encouraging high skilled teams to participate in their leagues and cups.

6on6 is dead and I am afraid this cup is as close to alive as it will ever be. I just missed a few aspects of 6on6 which is why I wanted to bring it back for these 2 weeks.

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u mean ross?

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possibly, among few others...

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I don't think singling out a single player who has the balls to speak out against a fair few people in the community. Bare in mind that R0SS HAS attended the last 6 LANs now? Ross feel free to correct me on that now.

Therefore I think people should respect his word because he knows what he is talking about. Me and him have just had a discussion on ventrilo about the current situation in ET and I think we are both at an agreement now that regardless of how successful this cup is ET is remaining 5on5 format. I just say people will have to get on an enjoy ET while you can because it only has a few years left in it!

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QuoteMe and him have just had a discussion on ventrilo about the current situation in ET

QuoteBare in mind that R0SS HAS attended the last 6 LANs now

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QuoteTherefore I think people should respect his word because he knows what he is talking about.

QuoteI just say people will have to get on an enjoy ET while you can because it only has a few years left in it!

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No there was only 2 of us on vent not anymore :<

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I have less hair and ross has a bit more!

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Close enough. I appreciate the effort :D

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useless effort though, check the left guy his shirt :<

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Am I supposed to be wearing a top that says "hummel" on?!/ I demand you change it!

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such n awesome comment

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See ya there <3

Would CB / ESL really care if clans just started to play 6on6 ie. in 5on5 ladder?

nice, hopefully gonna participate!

I don't really see playing 5on5 as a problem, not like its SOOOO much more fun playing 6on6 and in my opinion very few teams have really worked on actually trying to create some original attacks or play styles in 5on5. People are generally playing for the sake of it, waiting for a lan, and all the players actively moaning about 5on5, won't suddenly be super active if the format changes.

I also prefer it that you set a time on pretty much every map when the teams are fairly even.

With the maps you mean the first round you HAVE to set a time rather than have a full hold?

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I mean its easier to set times now, because mistakes can be more costly and some stages are harder to hold. But then im not a great fan of ETs stage style of gameplay anyway :D.

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I would also love to see this as well. The only problem though is where do you draw the line with teams? Would you say right you won EC but you haven't therefore a time limit will have to be made. Also on the other end of the scale just say for instance that TLR was attacking against Dignitas on goldrush and they was having a really bad day. It might take 20+ minutes sometimes if a decent side sets up an awesome defense.

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Think you misunderstood me, my point was I like 5on5 because you can set a time quite easily, even when we were playing dire with giants we could still set like 10 minute times, but maybe wud lose in 5 minutes :D.

Whilst in 6on6, there was alot more fullholds and longer defences as I remember it.

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Sorry completely misunderstood. I have to agree on that though. 5on5 is more exciting for the fact that times WILL be faster on maps. Though the one thing it does lack from a spectators point of view is big multi kills.

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Yeah I would maybve agree 6on6 is better from a spec point of view, but my main point is I just dont think switching back to 6on6 has any real benefit to ET.

I dnt think the gap between, 5on5 and 6on6 is enough to be like " I WONT PLAY ET ANYMORE COS THERE IS ONE LESS PLAYER PER TEAM".

People who want to play the games actively still are, I don't think the format has stopped many people playing.

But I have no problem with ppl playing nostalgic 6on6 cups, since i would probably play RTCW instead of ET if there was like 20 teams or something.

(waiting for my movie to download, thats the only reason im debating to pass the time :D)

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Agree with everything u say. People should listen to this man !

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I am not saying ET is going to swap back to 6on6 at all. This is almost like the Baserace quick up in a sense that its going to last 2 weeks and be a laugh for people who enjoy 1on1s, 5on5s 6on6s or whatever. It's not going to affect the fact that there is going to be 2/3 LANs next year. If anything ET could do with only up to 3 a year anyways because 1 thing is for sure and that is I won't attend any more than 3 let alone 4 or 5.

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100% agree, finally an old school player who also played RTCW see's the fundamental aspects of 5on5/6on6. Love you rich.

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;)

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KRP will attend! :)

gtfo with "IRC: #revive.6on6"

go on #6on6.et

- profit ??

It's a cup chan not really a "Lets get a 6on6 chan" I am not op on 6on6.et therefore would find it hard to get messages across to team captains.

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funny to see how the players that used to be an absolute waste in 6on6 are arguing so much in favour of 5on5. now that the game is an aim only cod like copy they fight really hard to keep the current state eventho it completely destroys the uniqueness and the balance of the game. but ye, it has always been the same in et. those who try to make themselves important by talking the most will get in charge of many things and make decicions and rules for their own benefit.

*edit* and stop using the "lans" arguement! on the one hand you say 5on5 is better for lans since it takes less pc's and space and on the other hand you say that 5on5 attracts much more teams than 6on6 which results in requiering much more space and pc's. doesnt make sense to me somehow ^^.

There are many reasons for having 5on5 or 6on6 though. But remember that decisions made by admins are made to benefit one thing (their pocket)

Though I am not going to start an argument saying I would prefer ET without LANs because actually they are a good laugh to go to wether your playing or not.

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ofc lans are nice for et but as it seems only like 5 players are playing this game for lans only and changing the format only for them is so fucking stupid. and so far i've only heard the lan arguement for 5on5 so actually there arent many reasons :PPP the game is more dead than ever before, there are no lans and noobs are taking over because its aim only (which nowadays everybody has because the game is out for 7 years or smth and settings of top players are avi for everybody)

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Remember though we are players. We govern nothing when it comes to the running of ET. Like I have previously said I enjoy playing ET whatever the format but i do miss 6on6 which is why I want to bring it back even if its just for these few games.

RTCW do it every so often so therefore ET should try do the same for 6on6.

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true dat!! I wanna see those noob spraying top players before!

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but yeah its 7 years old no time machine invented yet...

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Its not going to be ET without lans whether we choose the 5on5 or 6on6. there will always be lans. so the lan argument itself is a failure, its not something you do compromising the game so much.

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I suppose the argument for the LANs is you'll be missing big LANs such as OOF or other ones such as AEF.

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Dont u agree at all that it is pretty hilarious how can u miss a lan or two only cause of teams having one more players? It's not like couple extra pcs are hard to get, its just bullshits.

Sure 5on5 makes it easier to organise and u get more teams, but its just bullshit that it would be impossible to get it in 6on6 mode. Anyone who says otherwise is pretty much an idiot or doesnt have any clue how to organise anything

As it has also been done before^^

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What you have got to bare in mind is that most lans have a flagship game. In these cases both OOF and AEF's are COD4. For the organizers to go through a whole load of effort for a game to get 2 extra PCs they might aswell host a TF2 or CS:S LAN. Though I do agree it does sound pretty stupid until you look further into the logistics of it.

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Now that we have most adabdept into 5v5, we can switch back to 6on6 and have those 2 lans be 5on5 if its the only way. sure we can cope with that, rest of the scene gets their lovely format back which they so much loved to play and it takes more skill for those top dogs who want to attend every lan to maintain 2 formats of the game.

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Cannot see teams that are attending the lans which would be 5on5 playing 6on6 online. Therefore the divide would be fairly big and possibly cutting activity down even more.

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and why exactly can't 6o6 be played @ AEF or OOF ?

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Organizers preferance

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Then you say that you get more entrance fee money.

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snoOp for president!

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My thoughts :

- 5on5 made the game more dull and repetitive. I never see innovating tactics anymore, while when we were playing 6on6 you could actually get surprised by other teams.

-Semi-contradicting myself here but 5on5 also made the game more random. If player A presses his selfkill button a millisecond too late the entire defence is most likely gone. This simple "missing one player = trouble-fact" has made ET more luckbased than it used to be. Sometimes a lesser skilled team can beat a more skilled team due to this, and unlike the surpises we saw "back in the day" these upsets have nothing do to with skill.

- 5on5 made the field ops a walking ammo cabinet, I dislike this because I used to main this class but I'm sure more people agree that this is a negative change.

- 5on5 made the game more linear, this argument might sound the same like the previous ones but I'm talking about something specific : The unexpected-factor. You're not allowed to go covert ops anymore, to then hide an entire minute, just to take out their command post on radar. You're not allowed to search the spawnkill as a field ops anymore because you'd be abandoning your team. ( Etc .. )

I know quite a lot of "oldschool" people, including myself, who quit playing because ET became terrible with the change. I hate 5on5.

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I agree with many of your comments. But your from belgium

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Seeing as there is so much talk about bringing 6on6 back because it is better. I have spent a bit of time setting a quick cup up for you guys to show that 6on6 is still much better then 5on5!

Cba to photoshop/paint it tho :P

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I approve it too as many more than only decem and potty :)

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i agree, and its the reason i quit as well.

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#6on6.et ...soo oldschool :O

Yea lets go back to the channel with the corrupt admins who not only ban you when they lose but also play with cheaters themselves! Good times!

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One of the big reasons one can be happy about why 6o6 is not played anymore is that no one has to endure you as the channel admin anymore.

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get lost idiot

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at least 5on5.et doesn't have you as a shit admin.

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at least 5o5 admins gives a shit about kicking busted cheaters......

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but you were doing more than that :) happened on more than 1 occasion that you banned people who bashed you (I was playing in the wars when some happened) and none of those were cheaters.

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griim & me cheaters, or playing with cheaters ?
u just mad when u lose mixes and ban people.

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infact, I was also banned from 6on6.et for "Cheating" Was a bit confused as to how I was cheating though :<

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i prefer 5o5 since i never really got to grips with 6o6

and i didnt like the spam in 6o6 :)

my comment is prob invalid as i think 3o3 > 5o5 > 6o6 > 4o4 > 2o2 > 1o1!

:s

r0ss bestest 5on5 player.

Ross is an homo anyway

5v5 gay, zZz taking over 6v6 scene !

Thanks for signing up btw1 love you!

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Well I don't really understand why some people desperatly try to keep 5on5 as format. As we all know Quakecon 2006 was held 5on5 although 6on6 was the standard format back then. Why don't we use it this way again? Personally, I don't really hate 5on5, but I agree that 6on6 was more enjoyable - for spectators and players. Lazio already pointed out that its the same tactics over and over again and there is no real space for individuality. 5on5 might have better competiton due to 1 player less per team, but if it ties down the fun, which should ALWAYS be the main reason for gaming, its doubtful to stick to 5on5 whereas the majority would prefer 6on6 atleast for 'standard' gaming (excluding LAN's as I agree that its a whole lot easier to organize with 5on5).

All in all I''d love to see 6on6 back, LAN's (except for CC's) can still be held 5on5 I don't really mind that.

5v5 is best :)

You barely see these kind of moments anymore

panzer deciding the game or stage
airstrike or artillery deciding the game or stage

Most teams think like this now, what if it goes wrong ill get full and defence is gone.
So no more risk is less fun. Not only for the spectators, but also for the players that like to play those classes.

And the lan argument is invalid, look at the top teams playing its a small percentage. Why should everyone just follow a few top teams that want to play lan. And i don´t think it will effect the community that much, i think the joy of playing is more important and thats why i think 6on6 will make the community stronger.

no man 5on5 is better because we need more lans and maybe even be as cool as the cod4 community, and if everything goes well, we can be as ugly and nerdy as them

fuck yea!

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