South Korea buries 8 million animals alive
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27 Mar 2011, 11:17
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http://news.change.org/stories/8-million-animals-buried-alive-in-south-korea
due to disease and instead of vaccination, they decide to kill them and not just kill them, but bury them alive.
This killing has been so traumatic for workers — even those who are accustomed to the day-to-day cruelties of factory farming — that South Korean officials started offering therapy after hearing reports of people suffering from insomnia, fear, and hallucinations.
What the fuck is wrong with you people?
due to disease and instead of vaccination, they decide to kill them and not just kill them, but bury them alive.
This killing has been so traumatic for workers — even those who are accustomed to the day-to-day cruelties of factory farming — that South Korean officials started offering therapy after hearing reports of people suffering from insomnia, fear, and hallucinations.
What the fuck is wrong with you people?
Why dont you make journals about the poor little kids starving to death in Africa
I giggled a little seeing those pigs sliding down to their pit of death
I can not see any problems doing it like this, cruel sure but thats about it.
"For example, Japanese government call-in advice lines are telling people to simply rinse off any produce covered with radioactive dust."
- Kill them, then burn/bury the remains (costly, takes a lot of work)
- Burn/bury them, which kills them (cheaper, more practical + they won't feel a thing because they will pass out from the loss of oxygen)
- Let them die slowly and painfully from the disease
- (PETA + some of you idiots here preferred) hope that a magical fairy comes and cures them and then takes them with her to wondrous Piggy Paradise where they can freely roam and roll around in mud for ever and ever
You'll realise why they had to do this when you stop thinking emotionally and start thinking rationally.
Not only is vaccinating all the pigs extremely expensive (and it won't even work in cases where the sickness has developed far enough), it is also rather inreliable. There are several types of foot-and-mouth disease, and the disease evolves at a fast pace so last year's vaccination will not necessarily protect from the disease this year. On top of that, vaccinated animals still carry the disease and it can spread to not vaccinated animals from them. Wikipedia has more on this.
I venture to disagree. We live in a world of opinions. People have varying opinions, which they have built by observing information they receive and building their own consensus. Organizations consist of people, and organizations' opinions are a sum of the opinions of the people who form the organization. However, opinions are not facts or knoweledge and should not be mistaken for such. You seem to have done this.
Wikipedia on the other hand is a source that aims to provide facts and knoweledge, not opinions. Unlike opinioins, facts are neutral, universal. Knoweledge is not dependant on the observer. They are something everyone can observe and then build their opinions on them. Things like "Hoof-and-mouth disease spreads easily and the virus causing it evolves fast making vaccination difficult". You can go out there right now and observe this, which makes it a fact, knoweledge. On the other hand, "Not vaccinating animals against hoof-and-mouth disease is simply laziness because a vaccine exists" is an opinion.
What can you honestly say you know for a fact? You make a hypothesis and you build everything on it in order to prove the hypothesis either wrong or correct. once you have a 'world' as massive as ours built on a hypothesis that's false, it tends to affect all reasoning. if X is Y, then Z is F. How do you perceive news agencies? are they giving us facts? are they giving us truth?
And there are several ways one can know something for sure. One is having first-hand knoweledge and observing the said thing themselves, such as: "I have visually seen that my foot has five toes on it, and I can send signals through my central nervous system to contract and extend muscles in order to control them. Hence I have five toes" and "If I lift up an apple in my hand and then let go of it, it starts moving at an increasing speed of 9.81m/s^2 towards the surface of Earth, until colliding with something and coming to a stop. Hence gravity does indeed exist".
However, it is also possible to know something for certain without necessarily having first-hand knoweledge of it. For example, I have never been to New York but I can still safely say that it indeed does exist, as I have multiple sources of information stating so, I have seen photographs of it and I have met multiple people who say they live in New York. In addition I could easily verify the existance of New York by booking a flight ticket there and going to see it myself.
So information is something anyone can validate themselves as true. One seldom has to do this validation, though, as information is often paired with sensible arguments that back up the claim.
Also, welcome to the world. Nobody really cares about you and no, there is no global conspiracy bound to fuck you over.
They seem to have rather neutral view, this of course is debatable, but for the sake of this lets say yes, it's still a perspective nevertheless.
Vaccines are extremely expensive. is that a fact or opinion and who's perspective?
Same for killing the animals before burying them. Any possible relief from the government should also be expected and/or requested. You suggested alternatives, which many of them are better than what happened. Oh and it's 3/8 pigs, rest are other fauna.
and of course there's no conspiracy for my head, just those in power taking steps to insure they stay in power.
Yes it is expensive! Do u even know how vaccines work? Vaccine isn't cure for any desease, it's to prevent getting sick/ill. And when You start growing an animal then You have to be prepared to these kind of things, if You can't pay for vaccines then don't even start a business with animals.
afaik I saw some news report recently where because of the economic crisis, syndicates who had got together to buy a race horse had opted for the decision to destroy the animal and save money.
normal cuntish behavior from lowlife people :O(
They won't feel pain but burying alived is one of the worst death any living creature can experience.
let's hope south korean government won't take excessive gaming as a disease some day
God bless this poor animals
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_G8GjMxkQU
Time for another journal
whatever is going to happen, it's going to be interesting times ahead.
in a nutshell, questioning things have become easier, when more and more things are absurd.
Rather, man has fallen from a high state through a succession of ages and man's primal state, far from being animalistic, or ape-like was "more than human".
Our present state biologically and culturally is a debasement and technology is one thing to blame.
I dont quite get what youre trying to say with this one, when ruling out that, I see your point in technology being achilles heel of mankind. However, if you try to conceive the world from a perspective where people are being controlled and suppressed, both spiritually and technologically, we are getting closer and closer to solutions that can break us free from the oppression of our rulers. Ever imagined a world with free energy and how it would affect it?
The economic classes have replaced the castes that were reflections of 'divine' order, resulting in a "shift in power" from the warrior to the merchant and to the capitalist oligarchies.
In the power structure, the merchant replaced the warrior; the kings of money replaced the old kings of War.
"Do you want total war
Throw out Christ and bring back Thor?
Do you want total war
Unleash the beast in man once more?
Do you want total war
To see life's will return once more?
Yes, you want total war!
Yes, you want total war!"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3aeWHz6Zok
but as u said.. as long as the far majority of the society wont refuse such things, nothing will change in this interleaved system.
Amen.
e: no, dont go figure xD
All pigs must die
This ain't August '69
all pigs must die...
sleeping gas, when all pigs are asleep then gas them properly in their sleep. No poultry will feel anything or know what is going on. that has to be the single humaneist way to kill something.
vaccination for 8 million pigs is way to unreliable, It would take weeks or even months to do it by that time the disease is developed enough that their is no cure much like cancer. you detect it early its a cureable disease, it develops then its not. could you imagine if you vaccinated 8 million pigs then sold them in supermarkets to people then 8 million people died as a result? You would go down in history under the likes of Hitler and Stalin and the biggest idiot the planet has ever seen.
Really? killing some jews and so on was obviously not so nice, but hey cmon hitler for example did many great things too.
na reckon the public would love you for that rofl. Hitler killed 3 millions jews and a clown btw.
- see? nobody...
Way to go guys, can't wait for the completely rational society.
CARE, NOT MY PROBLEM, why should i care?
you must be such a nice guy irl :D, see someone dying on the side of a road whose been in a car crash, just laugh at him and say meh... not my problem :D.
I cant understand ppl who care about shit that isnt really anything special at all, pigs had to be killed -> pigs are killed, i dont see why should i care how they are killed as long they are killed. Obviously it isnt nice to bury them alive but hey, most likely that is the cheapest & safest way to do it.
The whole idea of having a billion- and billion-dollar industry based purely on the systematic breeding, caging and slaughtering of countless of animals for the sole purpose of human interest and money just doesn't feel right to me. Fundamentally, I don't believe humankind is in any position to treat fellow creatures in a way that simply defines them as drones or units of which we can dispose ourselves when the shit hits the fan. However, we are in this position though and I do not know which way would be the most suitable to 'get rid of the problem'.
It just pains me to see dozens of animals being buried alive and killed, do I need to sign a fucking non-hypocrite contract in order to be allowed to express my disgust at that? Geez.
And sure it is ok if u feel pain cause of this, yet it doesnt mean that everyone should or that u are right and others wrong.
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An intellectual conversation on CF is like asking a Monkey to do your weekly shop. S'not gonna happen.
Oh you.
e: to make it simple, it may seem far fetched, but is in fact relevant.
so it was about it after all. (referring to the consensus conversation)
Everything is connected, see it or not, ( the conversation isnt disconnected, however it may be hard to see)
but yes, I admit, that wasnt very coherent conversation, (yes, it maybe be hard to see)
at least not before the circle closes ( sorta like, dont judge the book by the covers or dont quit watching the movie just because you think you know how its going to end)
however what I've said wasn't without cause. (it's connected)
the way I see it, I asked if burneddi doesnt believe in vaccinations as he left it out of the choices and his response was from wikipedia, which amused me and lead me to having a conversation about it, which was my mistake, if I were to stick on the subject. I actually intended to leave another, separate reply, but by then, things sorta got out of hands with multiple conversations. However, as I ventured into the wikipedia realm I was trying to make a far fetched point about integrity of information and importance of perspective. By the time the decision about mass death was made, It might have or might have not been too late, but it's still questionable how things were handled, how fast information was spread and what could have been done if proper action were to be performed.
Hey mum where's my bacon?
LLOLL!!!
no bugs, cool air!
anyway if they were infected it was more safe to kill em i guess... but man... buried alive? thats messed up.
And fuck you all who's shouting "kill fucking asians!". Like we are somehow different... we would do same thing to them.
The fact that people give more money to the RSPCA than cancer charities show than people are idiots who seem to care more about animals than other human beings.
Animals are treated cruelly on a daily basis so that you are able to eat meat. If you really have a problem with it, become a vegan and die of malnutrition.
ps. saying you die for being a vegan is just plain stupid.
ps. I wasn't seriously suggesting that if you became vegan you are destined to die of malnutrition.
Canines didn't become an evolutionary imperative because it allowed Humans to rip the flesh from a tomato.
I know many vegans and not one of them have a single health problem, most eating a lot better than your average folk. Probably comes down to more knowledge of the subject and knowing the best foods to be eating, was only vegan for 2 years myself but vegetarian for over 17 :pp
Although ofc not all the case like this :P!
My aunt is a vegan, and she's a faggot who won't even watch the tele or use the microwave because she thinks that radiation will kill her or something. She won't have an electrical fan on where she's sleeping because she thinks if she does, she will die.
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/71/164369127_1b574cfdf4.jpg
They might be animals, but we have more in common with them than we like to admit. They too feel pain and despair and other such basic insticts. One more reason for me why I hate to watch animals or kids suffer, is because the despair and pain has to be alot worse when you can not place or understand what is happening.