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4 Oct 2011, 22:25
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Well today we had our next EC game(http://www.gamestv.org/event/28414-team-blackpoint-vs-teamoxid/) and won it 4-2. A shame that it's hosted at CB!
I went to szzszszszszurek and asked if silent is allowed, well i know hes stupid but goldo wasnt online.
At first he said yes, cause he didn't win a ec quali game. He played at first for Limbo but he got replaced by Night at 2nd game.
Well, then szszzszsszurek came with a rule and said because of this rule he isnt allowed:
Players who played for the winning clan in a qualifier will not be allowed to play for any other team in the cup (EuroCup + OpenCup) during the first 3 match weeks. This rule seeks to discourage players who do not intend to compete with the clan from 'helping' it qualify.
Well I understand the rule that if a player played a game which they won in ec quali he isnt allowed...
So I got in a discussion with him and yep we didnt came to an end... so I just tried to contact Goldorak.
Goldorak said silent is allowed if he didnt win this match:
But well szszszsurek didnt get in conatct with goldo whos the bigger boss and decided on his own to take us out from cup!
So the next thing:
Cause snoop joined the team too late at quali Goldo told us that snoop isnt allowed for 2 games at the whole ec which we can choose:
as i saw we got a red card cause snoop wasnt allowed too, but well we didnt choose the first match. This awesome admins arent even getting in contact, everyone is doing what he thinks....
But well get rid of it u suck hard!!
Bashed The poles so hard^^
I went to szzszszszszurek and asked if silent is allowed, well i know hes stupid but goldo wasnt online.
At first he said yes, cause he didn't win a ec quali game. He played at first for Limbo but he got replaced by Night at 2nd game.
Well, then szszzszsszurek came with a rule and said because of this rule he isnt allowed:
Players who played for the winning clan in a qualifier will not be allowed to play for any other team in the cup (EuroCup + OpenCup) during the first 3 match weeks. This rule seeks to discourage players who do not intend to compete with the clan from 'helping' it qualify.
Well I understand the rule that if a player played a game which they won in ec quali he isnt allowed...
So I got in a discussion with him and yep we didnt came to an end... so I just tried to contact Goldorak.
Goldorak said silent is allowed if he didnt win this match:
But well szszszsurek didnt get in conatct with goldo whos the bigger boss and decided on his own to take us out from cup!
So the next thing:
Cause snoop joined the team too late at quali Goldo told us that snoop isnt allowed for 2 games at the whole ec which we can choose:
as i saw we got a red card cause snoop wasnt allowed too, but well we didnt choose the first match. This awesome admins arent even getting in contact, everyone is doing what he thinks....
But well get rid of it u suck hard!!
Bashed The poles so hard^^
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Whether or not Goldorak allowed them is not the question here, he just wanted to know what happened.
No need to get your panties in a twist, kiddo.
Well i dont know anyway why admins giving you a qualifier spot,
you had no lineup no results nothing.
And insulting the admins or the clanbase wont help you much :)
Anyway gl in liga4fun with srv, cheers gn klääääner bird!
noone really know why they got a qualifier spot ....
00:00 [CB]GoldoraK • thats the deal
00:00 [CB]GoldoraK • or u out from EC
00:00 stRay_ • we take final and semifinal
HOW COOL IS THAT
LOOOOOOL :dDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD:xdddddddddDDDDDDDDD!:ddDDDDDDDDD!
EC is basically the only league that ET has at the present time and with the current activity, decisions like this are only helping to kill/ruin the game. I am all for fair rules, but these rules are a lot of crap. 24hour rule hasnt been used since the introduction of slac, or for the past 3 seasons iirc.
Just let teams play and stop trying to influence the game/league so much. I/We appreciate the time and effort you put into being an admin(s) but frankly these decisions are woeful.
The whole EC has been a joke this season, with the numerous errors such as all direct invites being placed in the same group as each other. And i thought that ESL's penalty points for not using caps when naming demos were bad. Oxid clearly deserve their spot in EC and it was further justified by beating BP. I personally dont wana play in a league/competition that is ruining THE COMPETITION.
Im also going to say that if this is ur decision, then you cannot allow Blade or Kresti or Stownage to play for g2p in the first 3 weeks of EC. (Not that i have anything against them - just trying to get my point across how retarded it is)
after they fucked up they want the forfeit WTF dudes but srsly if everybody press f3 its theyr own fault tbh!
in my oponion they should allow oxid to play accep the 4:2 win over polaks and gife polaks yellow card
for beeing rtarded sluts
Now he knows better, and with the new information there is absolutely no reason to let the decision remain.
Actually, looking at the rules even if we ignore
if it was like 2000 teams ...
then ok follow rules strict enough decent players then for an ec ... but now in 6v6 its hard to find 6 players.. so admins should be a bit more easy with decisions
- a team that didnt even play the ec final last season gets a direct invite
- a directly invited team replaces pretty much their whole lineup with players who got knocked out during qualifiers and remain poule1
- a team that plays with two players that arent on their allowed players list gets thrown out of ec eventho one of them already played 3 games with them and there wasnt any trouble before
the group stage has just started so im pretty excited about whats still to come cb ;)
it's kinda drastic to remove them, can't u just give em a forfeit loss and let em sort out the 'paperwork' ?
or a warning or whatever but i guess their first card was the warning :P
goldo allowed snoop aswell, snoop will miss in first playoffmatch and one match after and i am 100% sure, oxid will reach the playoffs. so he is allowed aswell...
nice one ; D
If an admin who knows (or should be expected to know) what's going on says a player is allowed to play, then he is. Admins can't trick people into breaking the rules.
;)
that why they are removed
e: and they only had one yellow card for playing with snoop which is not really correct since he played the first quali match for them.
I'd imagine you've already called them shit on irc though??
shoutout to awesome cb crew
n1 von dir das du zu uns stehst h3h3h3 (obwohl hate :D)
whats new ?
On a serious note, we would have played different if they hadn't kicked from ec. What is the point of winning the match, which is already won :) Rules are rules, before game we said to them that they both aint allowed, but they didn't listen to us so it's your fault. You should have sorted things out before the game. Speaking with goldo who barely understand english wasn't good option tho. + goldo saying that they can choose these 2 games on their own & stray saying that they choose final+semifinal as "penalty matches" = im lold :D how can you choose a games where you have no chance to play?:D it's simple that he cannot play in first two games.
YOU WOULD HAVE PLAYED DIFFERENT... ofc, i did not really saw a difference of your performance on supply (which was already lucky for you) and bremen and on goldrush, oxid raped you quite hard....
personally im open for rematch without any pressure or hate towards each other (if you won once vs us, you shouldnt have problems to do it again :)
and why would we play a rematch against you? we beat you in a fair way. playing a rematch against you wouldnt change a thing as we would use the same lineups again.
its just your unfair behaviour that wants you to replay the match so you maybe beat us.
and i have NEVER EVER whined at smth like this as i dont give a flying fuck who is on a player list and whos not as long as a player doesnt play a whole tournament for two different teams.
Take your head out of your ass.
You suck and you lost to a better team.
00:23 [CB]szczurek • hf with killing et
ps; game-not a single match
maybe you should start building a house or smth and when uve spent a couple of weeks building it i ll come with a bulldozer and destroy it. wanna see your reaction then! ;P
better metaphOr!
too many mongols getting league powers
interesting...
*getting dizzy :s*
Then after they win the game a different supervisor decides that everything Goldorak said doesn't count anymore and they get removed from the tournament.
That's some skilled stabbing right there !
Rules: oxid fine.
Supervisor before game: oxid fine.
You know who else was Austrian once but German later? Yep that's right.
:D
ok after ross :D
If Goldorak (the bozz with zhe veri guud engrish) allows silent (who lost his EC Qualifier game) to play, he is allowed to play (Admins>written shit).
Same goes for Snoop, he played EC Qualifier where he ebviously was allowed to play, why shouldnt he be allowed for the groupstage?
And what is this, admin telling bp that they already won that match? Either you cancle it by saying "bb, thx for izi win" and disconnect or you accept the players in the other team by starting the match (even the written rules [at least a few seasons ago] say that by starting a match you have no more rights to complain)...
Sup with you CB?
Someone explaining all that crap would be cool...
Nah, seriously idc.
Wie lief dein Vortrag btw, hatte leider zur der Zeit kein I-net um mit dir seriös darüber zu diskutieren, Herr Schneider.
Yeah, I was an admin once, doing successful nationcups with bigballz Analconda, no complains there...
In CB, other than ESL, there is no real system to communicate. If you dont reach your gamesup you are fucked if you have an urgend question.
Also, if the gamesup rules something, he doesnt give a rat's ass if you know this or not, its you who gets dirty if the shit hits the fan
And the fail admins should at least try to talk with each other so they know they are following the same rulebook, or better said so they understand the rulebook the same way.
I think ClownBase should introduce and English test for everybody who applies as admin.
It's time ET teams should start thinking about fun too and not about some EC pocal and start boycotting CB, or atleast this EC with these shitface admins which english is even worse as Hummel his engrish.
cb admins you are shit.
How can they even accept someone who speaks English as good as a polak...