Fragmovies: what do you prefer?
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14 Jun 2012, 18:03
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do you like seeing small but interesting frags? (like some of the1-3man frags in Ruipperi's Polarsoul)
slowmo/speedups? (also used a lot in Polarsoul & Requiem by -Max-)
hitsounds?
spam frags? (not everyday 3man arties/strikes/panzers/rnades, something bigger like 4-6man spam kills).
if spam frags are something you'd like to see, do you enjoy seeing cams with these? (as long as they are good of course!)
high quality opponents? (do you prefer seeing frags against top teams more than regular clans)
and the final thing: MUSIC! what music do you prefer to see in fragmovies? I'm working on a project atm since I got my new HDD, if anyone is willing to send me some nice music I'd be happy to take it off your hands! :D
slowmo/speedups? (also used a lot in Polarsoul & Requiem by -Max-)
hitsounds?
spam frags? (not everyday 3man arties/strikes/panzers/rnades, something bigger like 4-6man spam kills).
if spam frags are something you'd like to see, do you enjoy seeing cams with these? (as long as they are good of course!)
high quality opponents? (do you prefer seeing frags against top teams more than regular clans)
and the final thing: MUSIC! what music do you prefer to see in fragmovies? I'm working on a project atm since I got my new HDD, if anyone is willing to send me some nice music I'd be happy to take it off your hands! :D
e:AND ALSO
PLEASE PUT HITSOUNDS
not my fault most people listen to shit music :<
and just be creative man!
this is the question!
I prefer interesting frags over all those 1 shot multikills
no slowmo or ff or atleast keep it low profile. too many of it can ruin any movie.
and yes, I prefer to see somewhat known names
I really hate all that speed-slow stuff. its unnatural to me and very, very disturbing. but it seems like I am one of very few who feels it this way
E: Hitsounds are a must!
E²: Music : almost everything, but NO metal / hard rock please!
slowmo/speedups, yes
hitsounds, yes
spam frags are fine if nades/rnades/panzer, but arty/strike frags are boring imo
cams are always good
high quality opponents, yes, but if it's well-synced like polarsoul I don't really mind the frags vs "lower" oppos
don't care about music as long as it's not terrible, hard to define "terrible" though :D
ESPECIALLY WITH YOUR SHIT TASTE IN MUSIC
slowmo/speedups? yes
hitsounds? yes
spam frags? yes
if spam frags are something you'd like to see, do you enjoy seeing cams with these? yes
high quality opponents?Doesn't matter
This is perfect http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nxlEU9z9TQ
can you notice the weird sound quality in this: http://www.own3d.tv/randomuser/video/10721?
fraps+mp3
hitsounds& some sync
no hitsounds but full of sync
1 / 3 slowmotions is enough imo (for epic actions)
cba watching x3 panzer/nades/strikes/arty anymore :d
ofc cam for spam frags
frags from med/+ to higher
music have to be like the frags ( if fast frags = fast music ) imo
slowmo/speedups? (also used a lot in Polarsoul & Requiem by -Max-) Slowmo is cool with headshots but speed up isn't really cool
hitsounds? YES!!
spam frags? (not everyday 3man arties/strikes/panzers/rnades, something bigger like 4-6man spam kills). Not everday spam frags are cool yeah
if spam frags are something you'd like to see, do you enjoy seeing cams with these? (as long as they are good of course!) yes
high quality opponents? (do you prefer seeing frags against top teams more than regular clans) High quality oppo and prefer old school.
Headshot sound is just too awesome
Slowmo/speedup is kinda meh, it works with right music tbh
spam frags not so my thing, only if like couple secs left on a clock, enemyteam disarming dyna to secure the victory and bam, gamesaving panzerfaust/rifle
High quality opponent really doesent matter for me aslong the frags are nice
made me lol xD
demo+mp3 with good frags is usually better than 95% of movies posted here on crossfire
absolutely no slowmo
yes
a few
sure
dun matter
Spam frags are nice if done well but no <3 man stuff unless it's good.
Not a fan of blur, sped up/slow down or other special effects.
Like to see some good SMG kills, headshots, sniping, teamplay! and mixing up with fun things. Just no shitty 3-4 man backraping or long frags.
Music wise always has to be metal for me :p + good example of movies = tapsa capter x
If the frags are good I don't care if it's a low+ game or med+ but always nice seeing decent players otherwise.
3 4 man frags
good music
with hitsounds
and prefer to watch a movie who didnt cheat in the past :)
senti's movie was greate till I knew he cheated, same shit for perfoitwashisbrothersound
etc etc....
Nowadays no moviemaker can sync the fucking frags.
Spam frag multikills such as over 3 kill nades or panzas are the easiest to sync to the music so couple of spam frags should be included, everything kind a depends which kind of music you use, whether is has any parts that would really fit in that kind of scenario.
Hitsounds? You need to know your music before. With some music hitsounds are really nice and you can sync them to music e.g Polarsoul. In some musics leaving hitsounds out is just a better decision.
As a compromise you can create a movie with two parts where another part includes hitsounds and other one doesn't. You really wanna think if you want to do it in this way.
Camtraces can be used couple of times through the movie. Not too much and not too little. If there is a for example slow part in the music you could do slow camtrace to the next scene. Also if the music is fast-paced you can make a little faster camtrace and so on. On spam frags you can do some camtraces synced with music.
Of course it is nice to see frags against high skill opponents but if the frags are really sick they can be included in the movie of course. Best frags are unique frags like mid air 1hs luger kills and so on.
About music, which is in my opinion one of the key things in a successful movie. You should use a song which isn't really 'hardcore' so at least most of the people are OK with it. The most important thing in choosing music is that the music you choose gives inspiration. When I am listening to some tracks I just can imagine how I would make a fragmovie with that track, how I would sync the frags and how I would time all the camtraces. You just try to create that flow which makes people not to stop watching it and actually forces them to watch it again and again. Flow which really gives you chills and goosepumps.
I would rate Polarsoul as a best movie that has ever been made in ET. Watch it. When you are finished, watch it again, learn from it. Polarsoul lacks some things which doesn't make it as exciting as fragmovie like Incorporated 2. I highly recommend you to watch top movies from another games, you'll see a huge difference between them and ET movies.
Some impressive effects may be useful but remember not to use them too much. Many people says that Mazarini play with your soul is the best FPS movie made but what kills the whole movie for me are the constant edits which are useless most of the time.
I have thought about making a this kind of fragmovie for a year but I just can't use these moviemaking tools and I can't be arsed to learn to use those programs.
And remember. You must have motivation and patience. Top fragmovies aren't completed in week or two, you need to sacrifice a lot of time for them.
Movies you should watch:
Incorporated 2 1 & 3 are awesome as well
Suspension of disbelief
SK - Believe
Destiny 3
Pistol Project
Rapid pistols
There is more but can't remember all :)
Number of frags is not much of a problem as long as they are special or fills you up with pleasure, multikill revive-train rapes tends to be boring.
Hitsounds when it is fit.
Cam looping on a multikill is poop, once content has been shown once it should not ever be used again, there is enough kills to go around.
Adding mediocre content to reach a certain timelenght of a movie is bad, save time and increase the viewing quality of it by cutting crap.
If you want to use mediocre content, increase creativity.
completely agreed!
The RGB ET movie is also memorable for me.
http://www.own3d.tv/maza/video/119320
slowmo/speedups? If u use them well, yes
hitsounds? Yes
spam frags? Either 4-6 man ones, or then 3 with spam and few with smg/pistol
if spam frags are something you'd like to see, do you enjoy seeing cams with these? I have always liked slowmo cams on spam kills
high quality opponents? Dont really care as long as the fragger is on the same skill level with the fragged players, and the frags are good
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYDCmvnZR6Q&hd=1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbjDxwYPu2I&feature=related
polar soul
The Last Panzer
RTCW Competitive History 2002
my favs:
quick actions
motivational music
and yea hitsound is a must.
1) I like to see longer killing streaks, for example when a player stays and defends a position and kills 6-7 people
2) slomos are somtimes nice, depends on how spectacular the frag was.
3) hitsounds - yes.
4) strike frags are okay, grenade spam frags too. i dont like to have an extra camera for that tho. kind of confuses me.
5) its nice if there are some legends getting fragged, but as long as its known players mostly, its ok.
http://www.own3d.tv/potter/watch/11572
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QaeA9gPAmY0
5:01 onwards, the editing slowing the frags down with a trance track is my fav. That trance track is just as good as the movie lol. Why Fragarea 3 is so good as that does this alot also.
having a shoutcaster hyping up frags a bit in it will always make the movie better if edited right, such as: 0:44 - 1:09 in requiem.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KXGUpaJIy6g
liked the music in winghavens movie. rock and trance related to the shown action
slowmo/speedups? (also used a lot in Polarsoul & Requiem by -Max-) If done well
hitsounds? Yea
spam frags? (not everyday 3man arties/strikes/panzers/rnades, something bigger like 4-6man spam kills). Yea, can get boring with too many of them though
if spam frags are something you'd like to see, do you enjoy seeing cams with these? (as long as they are good of course!) If it suits based on the flow of the music.
high quality opponents? (do you prefer seeing frags against top teams more than regular clans) Don't care, but it depends on the quality of the frag. Sick frag vs mediocre opponent > mediocre frag vs sick opponents.
A good balance of different types of frags.
A fast pace which gives the viewer no chance to check how long is left without rushing though (Unless you do something awesome like Elegie by fredd).
The same ambiance/mood during the whole thing, from the first frame to the last.
That takes in account the music, the type of editing (cuts), the style of cameras, color and grading, (special effects). All that should work as a whole.
No cliché/used songs unless there is something VERY special with it.
No useless special effects.
No useless cameras swirling around the map, actually make it the most efficient possible, while getting the most "style" out of it.
Have patience and don't work long shifts otherwise we'll notice in the editing.
Question every decision you make and ask yourself (if you do it to please the people) what do people really want to see. Don't be afraid to leave some stuff out, cause you'll know it's for the best.
Only then would I risk calling a movie a masterpiece.
Ok all you got to do now is make the best movie ever made. GL
Btw I didn't not like polar soul and TWK unmasked.