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syL ?!?!?!

never was impressed by his gameplay but people told me he's really good @ teamplay/teamleading/objective related stuff

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#1 whiner

syL

but he was pretty funny as well :P

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cant wait for artstars list of oldschool players to show his ET knowledge :P xD :3

only 4/5 'oldschoolers' in that list sir!

besides these are clearly focused on ~2007/2008's best players with the addition of jere, chry, worm and undead. :d

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was expecting you to list other countries but you ninja-edited again

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nein I started writing out NL but I have to leave to college in less than 10mins, would've still been a list of 2007-2009 shiners!

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you are so gay

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your face!

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R0SS,

Baggiez,

Frop,

SimonKinsler , Belgium

krosan,

Sean ! Dreamteam!

artstar

sup

Portugal

QkR

archy

night

veggie

sexyhot

kMt

Sexclick

Setup

Bridgfirm

hunter

There is more players, but they are not from my time. This list has some of the players that impressed me the most back then, by their aim/intelligence or the way they improved. Portugal

IuR / D^N might also fit that list.

Night spotted!

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Do you remember him? He was a impressive kid, 14 years old and a stunning aim, too bad he left the game very long ago!

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too bad, otherwise he would be busted

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do not talk about something you have no idea.... unless you played against him at 2004/2005/2006, give up...

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As talented as Portugal

Blue? :p

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eheh u remember :D Not even close, night was a real talent, trust me. Ask any "old" portuguese :P Blue was clearly hacking, unhuman movement..

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i did !!!

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kMt was busted, wasn't he?

Parent

he was but he was playing at a decent/top level for a while before team PT were supplied with hax ;P

Parent

Dude, i've always been against cheaters and in fact i was one of the few telling he was hacking (and koto & co), way before they got busted, BUT kMt has always been a smart player (good engie), a cool person with decent knowledge. I know that this is not a valid reason to forgive him, but in fact he was good without hacks. You should see him playing around 2005/2006 with mAus, sexyhot and some other guys.

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and half of them busted

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from that list, only kMt got busted.. None of the others has ever been busted

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H0m3 a few years ago

'nuff said

Ganonito

_ _ _ _ _

frozz?

koop so nice :)

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:-|

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Acozz

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:D

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it's one more letter

Z L 1 N K O

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Sh1zzle

Generalz

Zeto = cheating scumbag. and undead was a cheater, and so was lio ^.^

Generalz??

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ofc!

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Lol, in your team maybe :P He was never really stable high like the 'others', oh and cZar might've ended up cheating, but I guess you never saw them ending 3rd at lan.

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so was maus whats ur point! :D

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gotta disagree on undead there, hes in the top3 of best belgium players, maybe not only individual but also his position in teams (apart from his horrible whine :D) and he played WITH cheaters, didn't cheat afaik. :-)

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lio also never cheated afaik? like mesq :d

Parent

Thought mesq was the only one in that team (and kevin?) who didn't use cheats

Parent

Kevin did get banned on CB but only lio/mesq and maybe snot(?) didn't afaik :z

Parent

think lio did cheat once and got busted, only guys that kept cheating are zeto and vila i think :O

Parent

I know that Kevin/vila/jetro/zeto actually got banned on CB, but snot/acid/lio/mesq weren't banned at all. only Killerboy would be able to remember who actually cheated since he was the one who checked which IPs used each etBot. :P

he only had enough proof to ban the ones mentioned before, the others either didn't cheat or got lucky. :)

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Night

Anderson

freeze

EURUZ

Raul

subbi

DabSter

gifty

GuNnEr

Rapt6rr

ReavEr

vegi

Clown

dunno

speedy

Mata

vinyl

FUZZ

tornis

slajdan

sAvage

nordan

feruS

NuggaN

=)

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what happened to Anderson that hes not playing anymore?
(sry for that english :o )

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BF3

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he's progamer in battlefield now, rolling the high scene

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switzerland missing melkor!

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Too oldschool for me!

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he was playing at the same time as the other swiss guys you mentioned ^^

Parent

Really?
Never heard of him, I think!

Parent

Last GamesTV match was 2007, I wasn't playing ET then :P

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you serious? fuck that's a long time. :D

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http://www.gamestv.org/event/2888-atoon-vs-noumena/

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Switzerland missing Anubis

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Added players who played 2009-2012

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holz r3vers deadmeat interface gazeta elps

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inteeeeeeeeerface <3

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r3vers

ShAx

jonas

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eh, you forgot the best swedish player, which is obviously jonas lol

Parent

I didn't forget, I removed him!

Parent

guess you didn't know him then, if he didn't cheat he was one of the best aimers to ever play this game

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CHEATING SCUM!

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Xpaz
mystic
Drc
kmble
Raveneye
Stuka
Tiigeri
walle
ENSAM
Sample
squalli
Matias
olBaa
Vanhaomena
Lepari
torspo

clearly missing saintt!

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jauhis :(

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sic ?

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Even though I consider myself pretty oldschool (at least by crossfire standards) I was a kid back in '04-05 so I never really got to know who the top dogs back then were. This list is just my opinion of the _individuals_ that I think are players who make the difference. I forgot saintt but I think that's about it.

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Replicator, ceesam, Morty, Feuersturm :-(?

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Why you do this! :D

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I could go on!

Parent

morty is the only player from those I've seen play and okay he should probably be in the list too :] he plays very occasionally on hirnlos, still a sick aimer

Parent

Wouldn't know because I haven't played them all at their prime. So quite a silly question because I'm sure 99% of Crossfire should give the same answer. :D

I'm quite sure you played all of them in their prime excluding the reload.et guys. :P

the rest had their golden days from like 2006 onwards (same goes for you).

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skill level just wasnt the same back in 2006

Parent

meaning?

Parent

Moar headshots in 2012.

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Didn't you have to go to school?

Parent

I just couldn't tell if he was saying people were better/worse back then. :D saying "things weren't the same" could go either way.

and yeah I was in school, as were 90% of ET players in their most active days. :D

Parent

I was referring to this:

QuoteArtstar on 04/07/12, 15:41:05 PM | Report | Reply

nein I started writing out NL but I have to leave to college in less than 10mins, would've still been a list of 2007-2009 shiners!

:D

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oh, yeah I am at college right now. :D I just came to enrol for next year, will be leaving as soon as the other guy I came with is accepted too.

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I think what seareal wants to say is that a player rated "highskill" back in 2005 wouldn't be rated "highskill" in 2012 with the same performance.

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ah, well yeah most likely. though it depends on the player, I'm sure some players back then had quite flawless play and would still fit nowadays. (example = tekoa)

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exactly :D

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none

mAus/mAx because of the "A"

Brandenburg

image: brb4df4a

[GMC] Schneekönigin

hackt es oder was?

<insert random flame> :*

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kot
wiesiek
frag'stealer
wrobel
wiadro
doktor

and propably some oldschoolers like niedziowiedz or ancik who were playing long time ago but i follow et since late 2005 so i have no clue about 2003-2006 players :D

where is robol ????

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Team Poland NC XV

RaZiel
Zenon
Gjerry
Kris
Lakaii
Eirik
Zodiac
Kaiz
Domi
w3st
Snuble

you forgot the best one... Norway

nokve

Parent

yeah actually thought about him :p problem is I dont really know which players were good in the past (know about nokve and borcster except for raziel and zenon)

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/!\

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Wasn't there some speculations/story that Raziel cheated at some point? Has been so long since I heard about it though x)

Can you really add w3st to that list? :P

+1 for kris though

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inb4

kris ????????????????!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

:P

Parent

both domi and w3st are foreigners, but both played NC and should be seen as norwegian

anyway, raziel was a really great progammer afaik.. if he wanted to cheat he'd have no problems doing so :)

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mAus
mAx
Ganon
Shewie
chry
Jere

Finland

Xpaz
mystic
Raveneye
squalli
olBaa
torspo

Netherlands

Lun4t1C
teKoa
Lightning
Perfo
M1lk
abort

Germany

urtier
butchji
drago
kResti
snoOp
ohzor4/flopjehz

ecklav

Parent

good joke

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N30/Qyz, SQuid

Parent

mMonkey.ohzor4 = best :) proud he plays for us! :DDDDDDDD

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+1

Parent

nice fail on ger lineup

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old one4one team imo

Xionn for .be

mili

torspo

kmble

mystic

Stuka

Saintt

Raveneye

zenon

Raziel

kaiz

Eirik

SioN

Kris

Eldar m8

how am I not in the main lineup there?

Parent

Too fat, sorry bomi #2

Parent

mulsu.fi & chmpp.fi & skd.fi & ZZorpa.fi & Raiden.fi & Furraro.fi

seareal

mAus

butchji

mystic

sqzz

azatej

squall&ba

-

mAus
+

bAnga

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rather swap with razz or mind

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+1

meehow

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u dont have enough motivation to be up there! :PPPPPPPPPPPP

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:DDDD

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gza(king),night,gtc,r3vers,sulliwan,elps,addz,dozer

I don't know if a player named "HK" was from Estonia or not, I am just guessing he was, because he played in the old idle for quite some time with some other estonians. He was a beast!

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he was

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mAus/chry ofcourse

that would be me for pol

Personaly, I would vote for Belgium

Ganon, he had such an amazing aim, seriously. Haven't seen better in my 6years of ET.

edit 2:
Germany

senji &

urtier for Germany

Germany. Both players were really underrated aim-wise. They weren't known for their aim and I don't understand why. They had excellent aiming skills back then.

Hungary

Hungary
Line-up:

Hungary

s3boy

Nonix

phobeus

BoRi

5orWe1

st'logic

K4T0N4

KIMJI

d3st

adze

edrraK

TuvokoO

powi

Ocelooot

varadiroma

more oldschool players:

Hungary

CS4f1

polarka

Future

srph

Us4rmy

Don't wanna pick the best players from my own nation because that's just wouldn't be fair. So you do it.

5orWe1 5orWe1 5orWe1 pro

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if i need to pick 5 players:
Future,phobeus,adze,sebi,Nonix

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fobje <3

Parent

you forgot Belgium

fostrum,

flocky

Ramboing & whining qualifies as a best player? But then again you also had vila...

Parent

whole of czar/edit seemed to bring that vibe imo. :D

Parent

freek
karnaj
fra
kyp
maxuh
emorej
an7ho
shaq

& eht

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feruS
FeTTe
NuggaN
JonaS
ozzmosis
blaze
crajsor
LoTiX
smuztig

jonas was* one of the biggest aimbotters in ET history
period.

Parent

Same goes for LudA (more like wallhacking) then, but I somehow doubt they were cheating at any time.

Parent

anyone who thinks jonas/luda/aza etc were ever hacking is just paranoid/butthurt. ;P they lost enough matches and had enough flaws in their overall gamestyle for everyone to see they just had some more 'developed' aspects of their game (aim/positioning/reactions/movement).

Parent

Dunno if you had been around at that time, but like 80% of the community thought that Gosu / Rewind.se was cheating, especially jonas. I've played him many times in 3on3 and he had his good and bad days, so yeah I doubt he's a cheater. Luda is another case, because he isn't that much of a great aimer, but he often has his "magic moments" and u ask urself "how the fuck did he just do/knew that?". Dunno about aza never really followed him. :s

Parent

yeah I'm aware of his time in those teams and I'm sure you're also aware that people called all "newtalents" cheaters back then. :P people also regarded perfo as 100% cheater when he showed up to the scene and even in 2008. ;P

I just should've worded it differently, more like "anyone who still thinks any of those players cheat" :) because everyone was way more paranoid back in pb days because it was so easily bypassed.

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JONAS SICKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK

Parent

both luda and jonas were such unbelievable 3on3 players that I've always wondered if they were hacking while playing vs them. I wouldnt be suprised if they were, but, as you said, we cant be too paranoid:P maybe they were just too good. aza is kinda different cause he played godlike @ many 6on6 matches when everyone could spec him

Parent

to be fair Luda did play in team EE and people made bust .avi's of jonas while he was in uC/<< and swedish national 6v6 team! I see where you're coming from, they were sometimes just unbelievably good but I have no doubts that they were legit. :!

Parent

gnajda has also played in PL team:D but yeah, I guess they were clean, after I've got smashed by them while I started playing @ kinda high lvl, I've watched them several times on ETTV etc and couldnt find any evidence:P one of the best 3on3 (and prolly overal aswell) players out there!

Parent

when I mentioned being in national teams I meant to point out they were not just "3on3 only" guys. :D ofc they performed their best there, but were still clearly talented @ 6v6 top level.

Parent

just go watch "jonas.avi" or "jonas :o).avi" can't remember it's name, how fucking obvious. people doing crazy movements in front of him and his crosshair exactly points on their head each fucking time, watch it in slowmo. He was an aimbotter 100% sure.
same goes for wizzel and mAus.
mAus is another case, cos he was only cheating in his early times, A+R and stuff.

Parent

lol

Parent

kinda surprised me that you didnt mention sup3r there artstar :p he is sick reviving medic!

I know he's really good it's just my own fault for not paying attention to him ingame. :{

I watched AL1 @ AEF(?) or maybe CiC7 and thought he was doing really good in one of their "surprise win" matches.

e: and sadly teamplayers are less noticeable, I bet before 2010 (when sqzz started RAGING) nobody would have rated him among the best players. whereas now, he would win almost every poll in that regard. :D

Parent

yeah AL1/sup3r/undead were keyplayers of their team

Parent

I also enjoyed seeing siL play in his more active days!

Parent

well about the squizz part, he pretty much started to play different role as he got a sick aim also

Parent

true! but it's sad that he became more rated due to that, he pretty much was a keyplayer in every team he played with since iL/uQ. :D

Parent

he just won the awards cuz i wasnt active that time ;) haha jk

but yeah he has definetly been the keyplayer in every team, fucking beast!

Parent

sqzz has always been one of the most admired players, yet alone for his movement, people already knew his aim back from one4one, its just that he had a time where he barely aimed and did like teamplay only. :S I remember him having 1000 dmg in 20minutes of radar due to all the reviving.

So, gotta disagree on that one, he has always been fanboyd ever since his 141 days. :|

Parent

he's been fanboyed no shit, his docrun videos got like 15k views each but he wasn't rated as one of the best overall players until recent years.

all years prior to 2010 he just dominated the "best medic" polls. :)

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Poland

chester

kot

doktor

sarna

rio

robol

tsunami

lock

+

buzka

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No

Dialer?

Parent

no win :(

Parent

dialer ? hahahaha one of the most untalented players who ever played on highest level he would be nothing without ass licking and friends

Parent

teente
cpu
marv
cRss
Q
Loo
nindrt
butch
alexzoo
jalo

POLAND
kot
wiesiek
Mrozu
Lockheed
Wrobel
doktor
r1co
Xanah

UNITED KINGDOM
R0SS
sqZz
koOp
griim
jinosta
w3st

Finland

FINLAND
olBaa
mystic
Iron
Squall
ensam
Sample

Germany

GERMANY
kReSti
Bl4d3
s1LENT
urtier
senji

no butchji, drago but silent ? rotfl

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tbh i dont like their gamestyle.

Parent

this journal has been filled with wannabeism

Blindi

you forgot to add bobot to that BE list of stars! :)

urtier, senji, evil, mico, gambit, mirro

random country:

insert oldschool names to feel good

If you refer to me i know bobot personally ;) if not then you can chillax in piece and all of your wisdom!

Parent

if i would have refered to you i would have replied to you

Parent

Than i ow you an apology good young sir,hope you're gonna accept it ;)
btw faking cro flag or roots from cro?

Parent

most people here dont even use their real flag (like you), just click on profile and you see where im really from
eto prosto :)

Parent

Yeh i know,was wondered only cos sometimes our small European countries are swaped for some 3d world countries and they use them flags as a joke :P

u svakom slucaju drago mi je ;)

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monkeyy best player from NA :)

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where is

gifted

captain of the year: 2009 to 2011 :P

no kidding

2012

rumun topek mercedes

topek is a beast !!!

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vipeR

One word. Parodia.

oh w8 feruS :)

night sheep and toxic potms imo =)

im thinking about someone irish cant remember his name atm. he was so fucking goood till the day came h got busted. sad but true story

h3? or Allu maybe

Parent

Allu!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! hah!!! indeeed i loved to watch him till ll turns bad ..
and tbh this was same with so many more players.. at the end of the day they all disapointed me hard

Parent

he was actually finnish

Parent

sure??!!! he played for ireland at nation cup imo

Parent

http://clanbase.ggl.com/news_league.php?lid=2799&s=30
as i said

Parent

he did but he was still finnish, half fin half irish

Parent

so we are both right. deal? =)

Parent

allu :) allum8 so good in ET

e: still a cool guy, no worries

Parent

i dont worry he isnt still a goood guy =) i just hate it when everybody turns into a chater. there were some more i rly like still like them but they disapointed me :D

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hes great without cheats aswell, its just that one match he cheated hard on purpose :p

but yeah, we've all cheated once havent we? ;p

Parent

i remember that one. was one adler afaik :D

Parent

hm yeah and frost I think? cant really recall :D

Parent

same here dunno :P only remember allu!!!

Parent

sol was pretty good afaik

Parent

i was ireland fand in the past as they ve played. sol was part of it :D

Parent

best

LU

CrusH
guard
pk
Kraftwerk
dom
zeri

pih & pk confused the fuck out of me :( could never remember which one was using pirata, coz pih used guard/guardian too. (also made me fucking confused with Netherlands

mike aka guard/guardian since they even played in ocrana together)

Parent

have some demo from 2003 with this LU ^^

ger vs. aut

and yes there are players named mike and guard playing same time for OCRANA

e. good old times

Parent

pk simply used pirata. the original guard (ocrana etc.) used pih as well. If you ever stumble across a guard or pih after the ocrana times it's 99% mike.

Parent

tbh torspo, jonas and aza

ZionSpartan
TheOddOne
NintendudeX
Cruzerthebruzer
Dyrus
Xpecial
Nhat Nguyen
Zig
Reginald
Chaox
Scarra
Paradoxical
Froggen
Wicked
HotshotGG
Saintvicious
Cop
Pixel
twiQzZ3ri

This journal is about ET, not about League.

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wiesiek

wiaderko

Xanah

kot

lockheed

wrobel

Mrozu

zMk

ska

Xionn

Luckily there is one guy with some knowledge @ Finland

walle

sEs4M
Wunda
sAber
reAper
Bully
Wirsi

Finland

Melkor
Veracious
Feuersturm
Kikolo
Mouseman
Chinese_eye

United Kingdom

Engi
Yilider
Ogdoad
Zommy
Ninjai
Creamy

Netherlands

Ramzi
Ratem
Blaze
z3mm3
darv
Jappio

Sweden

SoD!
Summ3L
WoLFF / FeTTe
Civ
HoMBRe
Ivve

Norway

RaZiel
r0nin
Zerom
praeferoX
Zenon
KaM

Estonia

Zero
Evil Purc
DeadMeat
Intact
Ub3da
rEne

So basically nobody who's still posting comments here.

rene did post something about bfb2!

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Shr@pnel
haste
noname-
iceman34
riCo
HANZ
ike
forty
hammerkrook

New Zealand

DanZai|
calvin
Mactabilis

Korea, Republic of

rev0c
ponte
-_-v
ReMinD
nawi

Japan

MiRUKU
Kirark
stv
RollStone
Spirytus
Stain
sirokuma
Fang

No Aza :o

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