mouse probs again

by schNee • 15 Aug 2007, 15:09 • Journals
i dunno why, but its my second mouse, what doesnt like me.. it broke after 2 month again!!!
first i had razer copperhead - usb broke
microsoft habu - usb broke again!

anybody know, if its normal or is it just my usb or wtf???
which mouse shall i buy now?? i need a flat mouse like these 2 above, so no g5 or mx...
thx for help

edit: the best: it seems it only disconnects/connects while im playing et.. when i leave server, no problems or not that much.. .. -.- wtf

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Phemon 15 Aug 2007, 16:10
Razer Deathadder
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kiss 15 Aug 2007, 16:11
razer da
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Deactivated6709 15 Aug 2007, 16:12
anyone can say anything but i never saw or heard logitech usb broke. razer seems lowskilled in usb ports and wtf microsoft too?
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schNee 15 Aug 2007, 16:17
i heard same about razer, thats why i bought microsoft after this and now again same prob.. :/
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Deactivated6709 15 Aug 2007, 16:18
i m using a g5 from the starts of my online gaming... it means around 1,2 years imo and still no probs... but i prefer g5 ergonomy and not razer . anyway for me g5 is more than perfect.
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danL 15 Aug 2007, 16:20
well say hello to me, the guy with logitech mouse that has it's usb broken
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Deactivated6709 15 Aug 2007, 16:21
ye i think u r unique.
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crittie 15 Aug 2007, 18:20
i had mx518 and its usb broke
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mant1z 15 Aug 2007, 16:12
G5

CARE ABOUT FLAT MOUSE :>
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schNee 15 Aug 2007, 16:14
tested it, cant reach all buttons.. hands are too small. :/
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mant1z 15 Aug 2007, 16:15
kk

but now the ultimate women mouse
http://cgi.ebay.de/Zykon-Gaming-Mouse-Z1-pink-Ladies-Edition-mit-Bag-NEU_W0QQitemZ270154026826QQihZ017QQcategoryZ23157QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

friend of mine has it in black .. like razer i think :>
http://www.zykon.com/en/
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schNee 15 Aug 2007, 16:16
pink!!!! ;)
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mant1z 15 Aug 2007, 16:16
soll wohl ne gute maus sein .. habe sie selbst nie getestet :D
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schNee 15 Aug 2007, 16:27
i cant test this mouse, if i wont find it at a electronic shop.. hmm we'll see
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mant1z 15 Aug 2007, 16:32
buy in inet?!
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schNee 15 Aug 2007, 16:35
but me wanna test it.. what if i dont like it? :D
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mant1z 15 Aug 2007, 16:49
here in my city u can buy it :>
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schNee 15 Aug 2007, 17:20
i guess i will find this mouse in berlin too.. :D
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mant1z 15 Aug 2007, 18:18
well Berlin is a small city... so i dont think so =)
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stileh 15 Aug 2007, 16:13
use ps2?
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schNee 15 Aug 2007, 16:24
doesnt work.. my pc didnt notice my mouse if i use ps2 :/
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artyoM 15 Aug 2007, 16:13
kauf dir razer diamondback und behalte den kassenbon
habe die schon 2 mal umgetauscht :D aber die hält jetzt schon lange
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schNee 15 Aug 2007, 16:27
i could change this mouse too again since me have the bill, but its getting annoying to do this every 2 month. well maybe the new one wont break :/
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Kiewan 15 Aug 2007, 16:24
logitech > all
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schNee 15 Aug 2007, 16:30
could it be that it isnt my mouse who makes the prob but my usb that doesnt work fine anymore? maybe the contacts?
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Kevin 15 Aug 2007, 16:40
possibly, you can test your mouse(s) on a different computer to be sure
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schNee 15 Aug 2007, 16:41
the prob is, that it works for a while and sometimes i have these "plug in/plug out" every 5seconds. now it works for over an hour :/
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Kevin 15 Aug 2007, 16:44
I know what you mean, some friend of mine had it aswell

- Does it happen all the time or just while you're playing
- Does it happen all the time ( before and after gaming ), or only afer you played a game

ps : Your mousewire is probably broken so you'll have to get a new one I think
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schNee 15 Aug 2007, 16:47
it happens all the day but not that often.. like maybe 2 times per day... when i wanna join server, it starts all 5 seconds and i have to disconnect!! :/ so its more when i wanna play (and after i disconnected its still for some minutes)

well i will change it tomorrow, need to search my bill for it.. -.-
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toxicccc 15 Aug 2007, 16:49
ive got that with my MX518, but its been at me for about 2/3 years now :D

It just gets disconnected when im playing and connects back, i hear the usb sound of it getting disconnected and reconnecting, its very annoying ;D

its definetely the wire as even when i tried ps2 it still did this

ive got absolutely no money to buy a mouse and since im not playing so seriously anymore theres no need, as long as it doesnt get disconnected alot for long periods of time its 'ok' :D
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schNee 15 Aug 2007, 17:17
well i tested it again, joined public, played 5 minutes and plugin/plugout never stopped again until me was leaving server.. -.-
now no probs again.. so i cant play but use it for normal stuff, like next song on winamp. ... :/
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toxicccc 15 Aug 2007, 17:25
i got the same :D
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danL 15 Aug 2007, 19:45
with that happening "only" three things can cause it:

1. sensor electronics: probably it cannot handle the high G and it kills the mouse(roughly said)

2.cable: if you have warranty go and have your cable replaced, and if the guys there claim it is working normally while testing it, tell them to have it plugged longer and try to make fast movements and then lift the mouse up immediately(try it yourself to see if it happens)

3. fucked up USB port: if you didn't overclock it, go and check does your USB port provide enough current (device manager>right click on every USB Root Hub>properties>power tab; you should have 500 mA per port and your mouse should use 98-100 mA)
or reinstall the USB drivers and check if it happens again
also a friend told me that it happens with microsoft USB drivers from years 2002-2004, no idea why


seeing as it happened to both mice I'd assume it's something with your USB ports
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schNee 15 Aug 2007, 20:22
ehhm thx for help, but where can i update or dl latest drivers for USB?? dunno what to google.. :/
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danL 15 Aug 2007, 20:27
try to search it on microsoft.com , I don't remember the last time I searched for them so can't give you direct url, sry :(
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schNee 15 Aug 2007, 20:36
klick

is this right dl??
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danL 15 Aug 2007, 21:23
I think that should be it, there were some new drivers from 2005 but they seem to be removed :/

edit: just remembered, you should have USB drivers on the CD that you got with your motherboard(considered you have a motherboard that is not older than 5 years), might be better to use that
edit2: might be some drivers on winxp sp2 CD(if u have xp and sp2)
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schNee 17 Aug 2007, 17:09
i have the second edit, my motherboard is older i guess. :/
anyway i did some paper btw usb and plug connection. for a while i can play.. but still missing the receipt. ahhh.
thx for ur help. :D
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cuttyP 15 Aug 2007, 16:34
get a logitech... I use the same Mx510 for 3 years now, and no problems at all.
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krc 15 Aug 2007, 16:42
u seem to have a very agressive personality if every mouse is broken after 2 months :D
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schNee 15 Aug 2007, 16:47
ofc same for my headsets and my chair.. :/
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vaGgi 15 Aug 2007, 16:53
Belgium mAus probs?
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schNee 15 Aug 2007, 17:16
ye i blame maus for my fucking mouse probs!!!
hope u read it!!
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Lightning 15 Aug 2007, 17:00
Atleast test the mouse in some other pc, if it's also shit there then get a new one.

You could try the Logitech - G3 Laser Mouse seems small. not sure about performance.
And other flat mouse are the razers but they can break pretty fast, could try the deathadder.
Or get bigger hands :/
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schNee 15 Aug 2007, 17:18
thx for help daddy ^^
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Lightning 15 Aug 2007, 17:23
This daddy thing is so wrong ^_^
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schNee 15 Aug 2007, 17:35
but i like it ;)
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Lightning 15 Aug 2007, 17:37
K, you can keep it, but then i'll ask you for something in the near future :)
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overdrive 15 Aug 2007, 17:58
Who's your daddy ?1?
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Lover 15 Aug 2007, 17:03
razer rulzz...it's all your fault
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m!das 15 Aug 2007, 17:14
gL Germany schNee
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schNee 15 Aug 2007, 17:15
thx schatzie <3
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slifer 15 Aug 2007, 17:22
deathadder sollte jut sein.
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xRio 15 Aug 2007, 17:22
i have a razer diamondback and mine never broke :| have it almost 1 year i guess. gold plated USB :D

well gl schnee, hope you find a mouse that works for you :)
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schNee 15 Aug 2007, 17:35
using gold plated usb too... :/ tomorrow me will go to electronic shop and gonna shout these stupid ppl who sold me this mouse!!

and thx :D
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xRio 15 Aug 2007, 17:57
go get m girl! :D
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M1R53 15 Aug 2007, 17:26
don't use usb?
I guess mouse can work fine without setpoint..
well it does at me. ^^
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schNee 15 Aug 2007, 17:34
my pc doesnt notice my mouse if i conect via ps2
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overdrive 15 Aug 2007, 17:45
you need a reboot after you connect something to ps/2. most new mice dont work on ps/2 anymore (copperhead, g5, deathadder), basicly all usb 2.0 mice, the ones that allow you to change mouserate in their drivers.

If you get it to work on ps/2 your cable is broken. To improve ps/2 performance go to my computer > right click > properties > device manager > mice > ps/2 HID mice > properties
set mouserate to 200hz
increase the buffer
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INSECURE 15 Aug 2007, 17:27
Just buy a G7, cordless mice > all
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schNee 15 Aug 2007, 17:34
too big for me :/
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overdrive 15 Aug 2007, 17:44
dont buy cordless

deathadder
+ bestest mouse out there
+ optical
+ good drivers (no need for accelfixes etc)
+ intelli 3.0 shape <3
- razer mice tend to break fast, make sure to keep the receit

mx518
+ mx5xx shape, love it or hate it
+ lots of buttons you can actually use (unlike diamondback and copperhead side buttons)
+ optical
+ good drivers (no need for accelfixes etc)
- afaik you cannot change mouserate with drivers

G1-G3
+ mx3xx shape, love it or hate it
- laser
- higher liftoff distance, when you pick up the mouse the xhair will shake
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schNee 15 Aug 2007, 17:52
thx for ur help.. im gonna test them tomorrow at shop.. hopefully it works longer than 2month. ;)
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overdrive 15 Aug 2007, 17:56
buy logitech if you dont want to buy a new mice every 6 months :P
guy at store will try to convince you laser > all, just ignore him and say you prefer optical :P
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urtier 15 Aug 2007, 18:34
G1 = Optical.

Selling one at ebay at the moment btw ;) http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=230160410839
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krisse 15 Aug 2007, 18:03
Just buy Logitech G5 and be happy.
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crittie 15 Aug 2007, 18:24
i had usb problems with my mx518 and 1st copperhead also. My 2nd copperhead broke also but diff reason tho.

Atm waiting for my 3rd copperhead :p
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