Allow me introduce you to the Dutch fourteen year-old faMousjuh. He is one of the not-so-smart cheaters caught in the recent bust that I've had the displeasure of dealing with. Despite his overwhelming stupidity, he did come up with some pretty humourous lines. So I decided that I'd sift through my logs and pick out some of the better ones, as I felt that they were too good to disappear into the depths of my logs folder, unseen.
Apparently he was pretty alarmed upon discovering his nickname and IP listed in the bust, so as any ADHD teenager would do, he did the rounds messaging just about every admin he could find.
I saw the message about an hour after he sent it, and he hadn't said anything else so I just closed it, not knowing who on earth he was or what he was talking about.
A betting man as I am, I simple couldn't close this message!
It's pretty hard to argue with such hard evidence, the fact that his username and e-mail were different simply must mean that he's clean, right?
Some of his diarrhea from #crossfire just after that:
Back to the messages:
More nice excuses...
Just incase you missed that:
SOLID PROOF!
Fin! Hope you enjoyed the show.
For those with short attention spans, a short summary: faMousjuh got caught in the recent bust, via IP. Adamant that he was innocent, he came up with a pretty wide array of excuses, each more stupid than the last.
[13:14:05] [faMousjuh] no you are 20+ or something but never say daylight
LOL =D
Soooo funny
This guy first says he used a proxy and later he claimes he doesnt know what a proxy is :DDD
[12:45:52] [faMousjuh] yes
[12:45:58] [faMousjuh] 6-7 months ago we had wireless conection
[12:46:05] [faMousjuh] and with that guide, my name was fucked up
[12:46:09] [faMousjuh] i whined 2 much and things
[12:46:13] [faMousjuh] so i want a new guid
[12:46:17] [faMousjuh] it didnt worked aswell
[12:46:41] [faMousjuh] at november i was banned on crossfire
[12:46:44] [faMousjuh] reason spam
[12:46:47] [faMousjuh] so i used proxy site
[17:52:31] [sol^] did you ever use any proxy sites?
[17:52:35] [faMousjuh] yes
[17:52:36] [faMousjuh] once
[17:52:40] [faMousjuh] to goto crossfire site
[17:52:43] [faMousjuh] because I was banned
[17:52:44] [sol^] which one?
[17:52:48] [faMousjuh] uhmm
[17:52:57] [faMousjuh] (url) [proxy.org]
[16:25:16] [faMousjuh] and always when that fucking moron of a vass89 loggs on netcoders
[16:25:19] [faMousjuh] you say its me
[16:25:21] [faMousjuh] with proxy
[16:25:25] [faMousjuh] AND I DONT EVEN KNOW WHAT FUCKING PROXY IS
well sol although you were not the buster and just read the facts and you re not as much into it you are making it pritty simple for u...
if u wanna judge him then first read what he has to say and proof that he is wrong...
well perhaps he is somebody who has made a mistake and just wants to face them the kiddy way... but inet, serious bussines, has proofen us so often, that it doesnt always work as wanted...
you told him the ip shit approx 20 times in that logs
but his story isnt only bshit...
ye he s frustrated and doesnt know how to handle it...
but when he s a kiddy then u should show that u are not
these excuses are the worst i ever read he is jumping from one excuse to the oher without respecting the context and i am really sorry to say that but in this case i have to agree with sol there is no space for being innocent!
yep i understand that and i also know how stupid they are...
but this doesnt change the fact that he is a child...
try to see this differrent: i dont wanna stand behind him and say that sol is talking shit, but try to imagine beeing him:
you probably got no life, pc games and competitive gaming is ur life and has always been. now (lets say he is not guilty) something you just dont understand destroys all that in a big bust, that half of people say its shit...
how would u act?
a child acts confused, thats only natural...
they dont think first what the problem could be and how to understand it and how to find a solution...
as i see in the logs he trys everything to just understand the problem... but talking to sol is like talking to a handicaped ape...
he blocks off every little shit and that (sry) like an arrogant kiddy...
i m just saying that cuz i have learned way to often in my life to see things from two views!
and that is what i am criticising... dont get me wrong
=)
[11:03:37] [faMousjuh] Sol when you read this, i've to say something. A long time ago maybe 6-7 months we had wireless internet without a password to our router, and we live right in the city. So I think somebody got on our wireless internet and bought some cheats, here is the second part
:XDDDD
No way is this guy real, come on, own up who it is :DDD
COD2 f7a2421b7143d063b153c2afdb7c8124 (83.128.16.217)pbbans profileTracking (First -- Last Seen)
Dates Sep 13, 2007 at 1:03 pm -- Dec 10, 2007 at 10:10 am
Servers eLemenT (89.106.69.182:27960) -- [CYBERGAMES] (213.215.194.158:27972)
User IP's 83.128.12.146 [Netherlands] -- 83.128.17.194 [Netherlands]
Alias's azuMe. faMous</3 -- test
IP & Alias Data
Alias(s) (139)
#faMous
#faMous Lugeronly
- faMous
- faMous Cless
-------------'>>>>>>
-BORAT-
-fAMINATOR,=-
/di faMousjuh
/Firstgame +Coldhands
0NoHax 1NoSkill
>fAMINATOR<Cless
? '?
A Z I B E L
allrounderNoob faMou
AMINATOR
aZUME' Chemo
azuMe. faMous</3
aZumeFaMous Newsettings
biNLaden.fAMINATOR
Chatman& faMous
Chome Chome
Chome Cless
COLDHANDS = LOW
dlb :: fAmi
et=sux
ETPlayer
F A M O U S
F A M O U S #divineint
F A M O U S .
F A M O U S ..
F A M O U S J U H
F I R S T G A M E
f'AMINATOR.
FaMi
fAmi -1HS
fAMI'NATOR
faminator
fAMINATOR (ja)
fAMINATOR ,=-
fAMINATOR Cless
faMinATOR MP3
fAMINATOR NewCfg
fAMINATOR!
fAMINATOR..
faMous
fAMOUS /di
famous < eating > dontkick
famous brb
famous hand gekneust
famous highsenser.
faMous NewDpi NewSens
faMous Newsens
famous wrmup
faMous ZeroHeadshots
faMous! NewSens!
faMous'Cless
faMous, Unmute Or Bb
famOus.
famous. newsensy
faMous.>:D
faMous<
Famous<3
faMousje
faMousjuh
faMousjuh /di
faMousjuh =)
faMousjuh CODAIM
faMous{Cless
FirstgAme
fiRw.
GayColors<3
gg
God is met ons.
haha
hand gekneust
hihi
hihihaha
i've no energy left
Ik ben de zoon van God!
Ik Ben Een Zoon Van #God!
IkbenDomLomp&Famous
Im At New Settings, SO STFU
Im Proud Beeing a NonHacke
Im proud of beeing non-polish
Im Proud Of Not Beeing Polish
Im So Cold Warm Me U
KmDs NeedClan
kosmetdesnor
kosmetdesnor..
luGer
Massive BodyShots :)
MORNINGHELLOW
n0 faMousjuh
n0 peeRtjuh
n0 Peertjuh #thugster
NeePlx
Newaimbot NOT
NEWCFG OK?
newmouse Wannabenator
newsens newdpi newmouse
notmyrealname
nvm going low
ohrly?
Ok?
omg
pl0x!Revers
Polish - 100. Retard
pols gekneust
Problem4me.faMous
randomplayer
revers
rofl
s'Od
SmileyPopo
SniperNoob faMousj
Snoop
Supaz
test
Testinat0r.Cfg<3
testlagg
The Son Of The Devil!
The Suicide.
TheLastBeerSoort{faMous
UnFaith faMous Desire
UnFaith faMous TO
UnFaith faMous.Desire
UNLOCK TEAMS RETARDS
vAzza <3cfg
vAzza0Cless
WeAreUberMix.faMous
wie?
WillemZz
WillemZz GodGiveMePowe
Willemzz newmouse
WillemZz.
WillemZz<3fl0wz
willemzznewmousemx518
Within Temptation - All I need
|hdd.F A M O U S
IP Address(s) (74)
[Netherlands] 83.128.8.43
[Netherlands] 83.128.8.105
[Netherlands] 83.128.8.131
[Netherlands] 83.128.8.183
[Netherlands] 83.128.8.197
[Netherlands] 83.128.8.204
[Netherlands] 83.128.8.213
[Netherlands] 83.128.9.41
[Netherlands] 83.128.9.62
[Netherlands] 83.128.9.87
[Netherlands] 83.128.9.113
[Netherlands] 83.128.9.202
[Netherlands] 83.128.10.21
[Netherlands] 83.128.10.49
[Netherlands] 83.128.10.68
[Netherlands] 83.128.10.132
[Netherlands] 83.128.10.223
[Netherlands] 83.128.11.48
[Netherlands] 83.128.11.58
[Netherlands] 83.128.11.76
[Netherlands] 83.128.11.153
[Netherlands] 83.128.11.221
[Netherlands] 83.128.11.240
[Netherlands] 83.128.12.0
[Netherlands] 83.128.12.35
[Netherlands] 83.128.12.130
[Netherlands] 83.128.12.146
[Netherlands] 83.128.12.154
[Netherlands] 83.128.12.213
[Netherlands] 83.128.12.219
[Netherlands] 83.128.13.147
[Netherlands] 83.128.14.21
[Netherlands] 83.128.14.79
[Netherlands] 83.128.14.118
[Netherlands] 83.128.14.170
[Netherlands] 83.128.14.188
[Netherlands] 83.128.14.203
[Netherlands] 83.128.14.238
[Netherlands] 83.128.15.26
[Netherlands] 83.128.15.48
[Netherlands] 83.128.15.131
[Netherlands] 83.128.15.145
[Netherlands] 83.128.15.205
[Netherlands] 83.128.15.251
[Netherlands] 83.128.16.51
[Netherlands] 83.128.16.59
[Netherlands] 83.128.16.69
[Netherlands] 83.128.16.129
[Netherlands] 83.128.16.137
[Netherlands] 83.128.16.147
[Netherlands] 83.128.16.150 [Netherlands] 83.128.16.217
[Netherlands] 83.128.16.220
[Netherlands] 83.128.17.14
[Netherlands] 83.128.17.27
[Netherlands] 83.128.17.30
[Netherlands] 83.128.17.46
[Netherlands] 83.128.17.131
[Netherlands] 83.128.17.184
[Netherlands] 83.128.17.194
[Netherlands] 83.128.17.211
[Netherlands] 83.128.17.237
[Netherlands] 83.128.18.8
[Netherlands] 83.128.18.47
[Netherlands] 83.128.18.82
[Netherlands] 83.128.18.102
[Netherlands] 83.128.18.153
[Netherlands] 83.128.18.171
[Netherlands] 83.128.18.210
[Netherlands] 83.128.19.3
[Netherlands] 83.128.19.113
[Netherlands] 83.128.19.143
[Netherlands] 83.128.19.192
[Netherlands] 83.128.19.253
Alias Tracker Data
testlagg 83.128.17.194 Dec 10, 2007 at 9:17 am
luGer 83.128.19.3 Dec 09, 2007 at 11:21 am
|hdd.F A M O U S 83.128.19.3 Dec 09, 2007 at 8:12 am
SniperNoob faMousj 83.128.16.69 Dec 08, 2007 at 5:01 pm
allrounderNoob faMou 83.128.16.69 Dec 08, 2007 at 4:57 pm
F A M O U S .. 83.128.16.69 Dec 08, 2007 at 2:08 pm
n0 Peertjuh #thugster 83.128.14.79 Dec 07, 2007 at 2:45 pm
omg 83.128.14.79 Dec 07, 2007 at 11:11 am
n0 faMousjuh 83.128.18.47 Dec 05, 2007 at 2:21 pm
n0 peeRtjuh 83.128.10.68 Dec 04, 2007 at 1:21 pm
F A M O U S . 83.128.14.203 Dec 01, 2007 at 11:37 am
i've no energy left 83.128.11.58 Nov 29, 2007 at 12:33 pm
et=sux 83.128.11.58 Nov 29, 2007 at 11:20 am
FirstgAme 83.128.11.240 Nov 27, 2007 at 10:19 am
faMousjuh /di 83.128.12.219 Nov 25, 2007 at 11:37 am
gg 83.128.12.219 Nov 25, 2007 at 7:47 am
/Firstgame +Coldhands 83.128.15.205 Nov 24, 2007 at 2:35 pm
Im So Cold Warm Me U 83.128.19.192 Nov 23, 2007 at 10:33 am
Within Temptation - All I need 83.128.19.192 Nov 23, 2007 at 8:41 am
/di faMousjuh 83.128.19.192 Nov 23, 2007 at 8:34 am
faMousjuh CODAIM 83.128.11.76 Nov 22, 2007 at 1:17 pm
F A M O U S J U H 83.128.15.251 Nov 20, 2007 at 12:45 pm
faMousjuh =) 83.128.18.171 Nov 18, 2007 at 4:12 pm
Ik Ben Een Zoon Van #God! 83.128.18.171 Nov 18, 2007 at 9:03 am
famOus. 83.128.18.171 Nov 18, 2007 at 5:17 am
#faMous 83.128.18.171 Nov 18, 2007 at 4:38 am
#faMous Lugeronly 83.128.18.82 Nov 17, 2007 at 12:14 pm
Im At New Settings, SO STFU 83.128.18.82 Nov 17, 2007 at 11:21 am
WeAreUberMix.faMous 83.128.18.82 Nov 17, 2007 at 10:52 am
Problem4me.faMous 83.128.18.82 Nov 17, 2007 at 7:39 am
faMousjuh 83.128.18.82 Nov 17, 2007 at 6:26 am
Ik ben de zoon van God! 83.128.17.27 Nov 16, 2007 at 10:11 am
God is met ons. 83.128.17.27 Nov 16, 2007 at 9:19 am
COLDHANDS = LOW 83.128.18.153 Nov 15, 2007 at 10:43 am
F I R S T G A M E 83.128.16.51 Nov 13, 2007 at 2:24 pm
A Z I B E L 83.128.16.51 Nov 13, 2007 at 12:07 pm
Im Proud Of Not Beeing Polish 83.128.16.51 Nov 13, 2007 at 10:32 am
fAMOUS /di 83.128.11.221 Nov 12, 2007 at 9:00 am
Im Proud Beeing a NonHacke 83.128.9.202 Nov 11, 2007 at 12:48 pm
UNLOCK TEAMS RETARDS 83.128.9.202 Nov 11, 2007 at 11:27 am
Im proud of beeing non-polish 83.128.9.202 Nov 11, 2007 at 11:17 am
F A M O U S #divineint 83.128.9.202 Nov 11, 2007 at 11:11 am
Massive BodyShots :) 83.128.9.202 Nov 11, 2007 at 6:58 am
Polish - 100. Retard 83.128.9.202 Nov 11, 2007 at 5:17 am
ohrly? 83.128.8.183 Nov 10, 2007 at 11:03 am
MORNINGHELLOW 83.128.8.183 Nov 10, 2007 at 5:24 am
-BORAT- 83.128.8.183 Nov 10, 2007 at 4:35 am
NeePlx 83.128.12.0 Nov 09, 2007 at 10:12 am
F A M O U S 83.128.17.46 Nov 04, 2007 at 9:30 am
biNLaden.fAMINATOR 83.128.17.46 Nov 04, 2007 at 6:59 am
fAMINATOR (ja) 83.128.17.184 Nov 03, 2007 at 5:49 pm
f'AMINATOR. 83.128.16.137 Nov 02, 2007 at 3:09 pm
s'Od 83.128.16.137 Nov 02, 2007 at 1:59 pm
fAMI'NATOR 83.128.16.137 Nov 02, 2007 at 1:01 pm
The Son Of The Devil! 83.128.16.137 Nov 02, 2007 at 12:58 pm
0NoHax 1NoSkill 83.128.16.147 Nov 01, 2007 at 11:02 am
SmileyPopo 83.128.16.147 Nov 01, 2007 at 10:57 am
? '? 83.128.18.210 Oct 28, 2007 at 11:56 am
The Suicide. 83.128.12.130 Oct 24, 2007 at 9:52 am
nvm going low 83.128.12.130 Oct 24, 2007 at 4:25 am
FaMi 83.128.15.131 Oct 22, 2007 at 3:37 pm
WillemZz 83.128.15.131 Oct 22, 2007 at 2:01 pm
fAmi -1HS 83.128.15.131 Oct 22, 2007 at 4:37 am
AMINATOR 83.128.15.131 Oct 22, 2007 at 3:54 am
dlb :: fAmi 83.128.19.253 Oct 21, 2007 at 9:08 am
>fAMINATOR<Cless 83.128.19.253 Oct 21, 2007 at 4:17 am
fAMINATOR.. 83.128.16.129 Oct 20, 2007 at 8:02 am
fAMINATOR Cless 83.128.16.129 Oct 20, 2007 at 7:53 am
famous brb 83.128.19.143 Oct 19, 2007 at 1:41 pm
faMous ZeroHeadshots 83.128.19.143 Oct 19, 2007 at 12:08 pm
fAMINATOR ,=- 83.128.19.143 Oct 19, 2007 at 11:03 am
TheLastBeerSoort{faMous 83.128.19.143 Oct 19, 2007 at 8:14 am
randomplayer 83.128.18.102 Oct 18, 2007 at 1:19 pm
notmyrealname 83.128.18.102 Oct 18, 2007 at 12:33 pm
famous wrmup 83.128.18.102 Oct 18, 2007 at 12:27 pm
famous < eating > dontkick 83.128.18.102 Oct 18, 2007 at 12:21 pm
-fAMINATOR,=- 83.128.18.102 Oct 18, 2007 at 10:56 am
GayColors<3 83.128.17.194 Oct 17, 2007 at 2:03 pm
faminator 83.128.8.197 Oct 16, 2007 at 3:35 pm
Ok? 83.128.12.213 Oct 14, 2007 at 6:56 am
IkbenDomLomp&Famous 83.128.8.131 Oct 13, 2007 at 4:39 pm
kosmetdesnor.. 83.128.8.131 Oct 13, 2007 at 10:14 am
famous highsenser. 83.128.10.223 Oct 12, 2007 at 1:51 pm
faMous.>:D 83.128.10.223 Oct 12, 2007 at 1:07 pm
UnFaith faMous.Desire 83.128.10.223 Oct 12, 2007 at 11:00 am
UnFaith faMous Desire 83.128.10.223 Oct 12, 2007 at 9:03 am
Famous<3 83.128.16.150 Oct 11, 2007 at 11:30 am
famous. newsensy 83.128.16.150 Oct 11, 2007 at 10:55 am
UnFaith faMous TO 83.128.17.30 Oct 10, 2007 at 11:07 am
faMous{Cless 83.128.14.21 Oct 08, 2007 at 1:00 pm
KmDs NeedClan 83.128.14.21 Oct 08, 2007 at 11:14 am
kosmetdesnor 83.128.14.21 Oct 08, 2007 at 9:27 am
hihihaha 83.128.17.211 Oct 07, 2007 at 11:24 am
- faMous Cless 83.128.10.49 Oct 06, 2007 at 5:18 pm
faMous'Cless 83.128.10.49 Oct 06, 2007 at 5:20 am
- faMous 83.128.10.49 Oct 05, 2007 at 10:37 am
hihi 83.128.10.49 Oct 05, 2007 at 9:55 am
faMous NewDpi NewSens 83.128.17.14 Oct 04, 2007 at 1:40 pm
Supaz 83.128.17.14 Oct 04, 2007 at 11:31 am
faMousje 83.128.14.170 Oct 03, 2007 at 1:49 pm
faMous< 83.128.14.170 Oct 03, 2007 at 11:30 am
faMous 83.128.11.153 Oct 01, 2007 at 12:50 pm
vAzza <3cfg 83.128.11.153 Oct 01, 2007 at 11:07 am
faMous Newsens 83.128.11.153 Oct 01, 2007 at 9:50 am
haha 83.128.11.153 Oct 01, 2007 at 9:34 am
Snoop 83.128.11.153 Oct 01, 2007 at 9:27 am
pols gekneust 83.128.15.145 Sep 30, 2007 at 2:42 pm
hand gekneust 83.128.15.145 Sep 30, 2007 at 6:24 am
Newaimbot NOT 83.128.15.145 Sep 30, 2007 at 5:00 am
famous hand gekneust 83.128.15.145 Sep 30, 2007 at 4:00 am
ETPlayer 83.128.10.132 Sep 28, 2007 at 3:06 pm
faMous, Unmute Or Bb 83.128.10.132 Sep 28, 2007 at 12:52 pm
newsens newdpi newmouse 83.128.10.132 Sep 28, 2007 at 8:58 am
vAzza0Cless 83.128.15.48 Sep 27, 2007 at 3:13 pm
pl0x!Revers 83.128.15.48 Sep 27, 2007 at 2:44 pm
revers 83.128.15.48 Sep 27, 2007 at 12:38 pm
WillemZz<3fl0wz 83.128.15.48 Sep 27, 2007 at 10:19 am
Willemzz newmouse 83.128.19.113 Sep 26, 2007 at 3:28 pm
rofl 83.128.19.113 Sep 26, 2007 at 10:47 am
newmouse Wannabenator 83.128.14.238 Sep 25, 2007 at 11:50 am
willemzznewmousemx518 83.128.14.238 Sep 25, 2007 at 10:52 am
WillemZz. 83.128.14.238 Sep 25, 2007 at 10:07 am
fAMINATOR NewCfg 83.128.17.131 Sep 24, 2007 at 2:54 pm
fiRw. 83.128.17.131 Sep 24, 2007 at 9:47 am
faMous! NewSens! 83.128.17.131 Sep 24, 2007 at 8:53 am
Testinat0r.Cfg<3 83.128.8.43 Sep 23, 2007 at 3:45 pm
fAMINATOR! 83.128.8.43 Sep 23, 2007 at 12:33 pm
NEWCFG OK? 83.128.8.43 Sep 23, 2007 at 7:36 am
wie? 83.128.8.43 Sep 23, 2007 at 7:34 am
faMinATOR MP3 83.128.8.43 Sep 23, 2007 at 5:09 am
WillemZz GodGiveMePowe 83.128.9.113 Sep 21, 2007 at 2:07 pm
test 83.128.9.113 Sep 21, 2007 at 9:13 am
-------------'>>>>>> 83.128.16.220 Sep 18, 2007 at 10:42 am
Chatman& faMous 83.128.9.41 Sep 16, 2007 at 11:13 am
Chome Chome 83.128.9.41 Sep 16, 2007 at 5:59 am
Chome Cless 83.128.12.154 Sep 15, 2007 at 10:17 am
aZUME' Chemo 83.128.8.204 Sep 14, 2007 at 11:16 am
aZumeFaMous Newsettings 83.128.8.204 Sep 14, 2007 at 10:37 am
azuMe. faMous</3 83.128.12.146 Sep 13, 2007 at 1:30 pm
Linked GUID(s) (26)
ET dd501a39d7a8aee8789d6252f2f8efa5 (83.128.19.113)
AA 90aad1275194295e642bcc66f604dbb7 (83.128.18.210)
AA 89e1ad49574572309fa5be3fd6908c33 (83.128.18.210)
AA 183c0158f8747415a5dd8658b50c2033 (83.128.18.210)
AA c17ef44e5373ed315263368d02887932 (83.128.12.130)
AA c83c97d372e3a7f1fee740674f7de716 (83.128.18.210)
BF2 af9b58dc56b2f5dc213aa6cfbe172282 (83.128.12.219)
COD2 9d6ff8781fbaea8180b82e65a6e432d3 (83.128.8.131)
BF2 5bb9372e045f6c14c5f2637d5087e19c (83.128.10.49)
COD 9edc174fbb3d921641368e779947e7b4 (83.128.15.251)
COD 81845803ebc700b5581154653b7b88da (83.128.14.79)
CODUO 2f09adb296c5e34ed4ab5912498bcf54 (83.128.15.48)
ET 76b55971b92017788f5f36d715589f5f (83.128.10.49)
ET 645d213a14c7bd61b9cb3dcd74c8137b (83.128.16.137)
ET 28ac9cdf86774095dfa42374a7567010 (83.128.14.188)
ET d6d7ce6f1d1510f4599902cf33612fa2 (83.128.9.62)
ET 6e0a57422b1f11bc3a76bb9fd32a7a5c (83.128.19.3)
ET ba4ad173e63e52fd138b635ca5cfc043 (83.128.19.3)
ET 79149535c839d4019e37c6e85aeb8f0a (83.128.16.220)
ET f15514eba823b07a9b71462d2174cbc6 (83.128.14.238)
ET df1dd9331900c9715c16a664ce4f3aad (83.128.14.238)
COD4 9feeb7aad734e98b6c2aa2eff94bf340 (83.128.10.132)
COD e7c47cd967bcb651a77e4c3537d97707 (83.128.16.147)
ET c339f929cf8711298817d6521ad9f3f9 (83.128.17.194)
COD 18e8a32f9577f85b75d85a2d0a5f6b92 (83.128.17.14)
COD2 f7a2421b7143d063b153c2afdb7c8124 (83.128.16.217)
the thing is, if he is 14 years old he prolly needed some1 to buy it for him.
I accuse Santa/EasterBunny/his dad for cheater sponsoring
and making the payment
love the part with the xfire programs and the proxy part =D
ur srsly the worst admin in history
goddamn man, go chew on some raw eggs and then die of aids, coz u are one of the few things bringing crossfire.nu down to a community commonly known as one of the most retarded around :/
[13:03:14] [faMousjuh] and i dont have cod2
[13:03:18] [faMousjuh] Explain.
=DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
ROFL
whole log is rofl.
I am amazed how someone can be so stupid. Really. Can't express in words how stupid is that. He's already 14 years old, thats just sad. Really sad.
Will he ever realise that?
Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa I will hax ur PC lols. :DD
just couldn't stand to flame the motherfucker
why r u owning this lil kid :P
its like...u steal the lollipop of a lil baby ^^
Crossfire makes emos.
someone is in trouble and tries everything xD
LOL =D
Soooo funny
This guy first says he used a proxy and later he claimes he doesnt know what a proxy is :DDD
[12:45:52] [faMousjuh] yes
[12:45:58] [faMousjuh] 6-7 months ago we had wireless conection
[12:46:05] [faMousjuh] and with that guide, my name was fucked up
[12:46:09] [faMousjuh] i whined 2 much and things
[12:46:13] [faMousjuh] so i want a new guid
[12:46:17] [faMousjuh] it didnt worked aswell
[12:46:41] [faMousjuh] at november i was banned on crossfire
[12:46:44] [faMousjuh] reason spam
[12:46:47] [faMousjuh] so i used proxy site
[17:52:31] [sol^] did you ever use any proxy sites?
[17:52:35] [faMousjuh] yes
[17:52:36] [faMousjuh] once
[17:52:40] [faMousjuh] to goto crossfire site
[17:52:43] [faMousjuh] because I was banned
[17:52:44] [sol^] which one?
[17:52:48] [faMousjuh] uhmm
[17:52:57] [faMousjuh] (url) [proxy.org]
[16:25:16] [faMousjuh] and always when that fucking moron of a vass89 loggs on netcoders
[16:25:19] [faMousjuh] you say its me
[16:25:21] [faMousjuh] with proxy
[16:25:25] [faMousjuh] AND I DONT EVEN KNOW WHAT FUCKING PROXY IS
Haha Sol, nice how you took on this guy!
if u wanna judge him then first read what he has to say and proof that he is wrong...
well perhaps he is somebody who has made a mistake and just wants to face them the kiddy way... but inet, serious bussines, has proofen us so often, that it doesnt always work as wanted...
you told him the ip shit approx 20 times in that logs
but his story isnt only bshit...
ye he s frustrated and doesnt know how to handle it...
but when he s a kiddy then u should show that u are not
but this doesnt change the fact that he is a child...
try to see this differrent: i dont wanna stand behind him and say that sol is talking shit, but try to imagine beeing him:
you probably got no life, pc games and competitive gaming is ur life and has always been. now (lets say he is not guilty) something you just dont understand destroys all that in a big bust, that half of people say its shit...
how would u act?
a child acts confused, thats only natural...
they dont think first what the problem could be and how to understand it and how to find a solution...
as i see in the logs he trys everything to just understand the problem... but talking to sol is like talking to a handicaped ape...
he blocks off every little shit and that (sry) like an arrogant kiddy...
i m just saying that cuz i have learned way to often in my life to see things from two views!
and that is what i am criticising... dont get me wrong
=)
best line
:XDDDD
No way is this guy real, come on, own up who it is :DDD
but i m not telling u who cuz perhaps i ll get banned for it :D
Dates Sep 13, 2007 at 1:03 pm -- Dec 10, 2007 at 10:10 am
Servers eLemenT (89.106.69.182:27960) -- [CYBERGAMES] (213.215.194.158:27972)
User IP's 83.128.12.146 [Netherlands] -- 83.128.17.194 [Netherlands]
Alias's azuMe. faMous</3 -- test
IP & Alias Data
Alias(s) (139)
#faMous
#faMous Lugeronly
- faMous
- faMous Cless
-------------'>>>>>>
-BORAT-
-fAMINATOR,=-
/di faMousjuh
/Firstgame +Coldhands
0NoHax 1NoSkill
>fAMINATOR<Cless
? '?
A Z I B E L
allrounderNoob faMou
AMINATOR
aZUME' Chemo
azuMe. faMous</3
aZumeFaMous Newsettings
biNLaden.fAMINATOR
Chatman& faMous
Chome Chome
Chome Cless
COLDHANDS = LOW
dlb :: fAmi
et=sux
ETPlayer
F A M O U S
F A M O U S #divineint
F A M O U S .
F A M O U S ..
F A M O U S J U H
F I R S T G A M E
f'AMINATOR.
FaMi
fAmi -1HS
fAMI'NATOR
faminator
fAMINATOR (ja)
fAMINATOR ,=-
fAMINATOR Cless
faMinATOR MP3
fAMINATOR NewCfg
fAMINATOR!
fAMINATOR..
faMous
fAMOUS /di
famous < eating > dontkick
famous brb
famous hand gekneust
famous highsenser.
faMous NewDpi NewSens
faMous Newsens
famous wrmup
faMous ZeroHeadshots
faMous! NewSens!
faMous'Cless
faMous, Unmute Or Bb
famOus.
famous. newsensy
faMous.>:D
faMous<
Famous<3
faMousje
faMousjuh
faMousjuh /di
faMousjuh =)
faMousjuh CODAIM
faMous{Cless
FirstgAme
fiRw.
GayColors<3
gg
God is met ons.
haha
hand gekneust
hihi
hihihaha
i've no energy left
Ik ben de zoon van God!
Ik Ben Een Zoon Van #God!
IkbenDomLomp&Famous
Im At New Settings, SO STFU
Im Proud Beeing a NonHacke
Im proud of beeing non-polish
Im Proud Of Not Beeing Polish
Im So Cold Warm Me U
KmDs NeedClan
kosmetdesnor
kosmetdesnor..
luGer
Massive BodyShots :)
MORNINGHELLOW
n0 faMousjuh
n0 peeRtjuh
n0 Peertjuh #thugster
NeePlx
Newaimbot NOT
NEWCFG OK?
newmouse Wannabenator
newsens newdpi newmouse
notmyrealname
nvm going low
ohrly?
Ok?
omg
pl0x!Revers
Polish - 100. Retard
pols gekneust
Problem4me.faMous
randomplayer
revers
rofl
s'Od
SmileyPopo
SniperNoob faMousj
Snoop
Supaz
test
Testinat0r.Cfg<3
testlagg
The Son Of The Devil!
The Suicide.
TheLastBeerSoort{faMous
UnFaith faMous Desire
UnFaith faMous TO
UnFaith faMous.Desire
UNLOCK TEAMS RETARDS
vAzza <3cfg
vAzza0Cless
WeAreUberMix.faMous
wie?
WillemZz
WillemZz GodGiveMePowe
Willemzz newmouse
WillemZz.
WillemZz<3fl0wz
willemzznewmousemx518
Within Temptation - All I need
|hdd.F A M O U S
IP Address(s) (74)
[Netherlands] 83.128.8.43
[Netherlands] 83.128.8.105
[Netherlands] 83.128.8.131
[Netherlands] 83.128.8.183
[Netherlands] 83.128.8.197
[Netherlands] 83.128.8.204
[Netherlands] 83.128.8.213
[Netherlands] 83.128.9.41
[Netherlands] 83.128.9.62
[Netherlands] 83.128.9.87
[Netherlands] 83.128.9.113
[Netherlands] 83.128.9.202
[Netherlands] 83.128.10.21
[Netherlands] 83.128.10.49
[Netherlands] 83.128.10.68
[Netherlands] 83.128.10.132
[Netherlands] 83.128.10.223
[Netherlands] 83.128.11.48
[Netherlands] 83.128.11.58
[Netherlands] 83.128.11.76
[Netherlands] 83.128.11.153
[Netherlands] 83.128.11.221
[Netherlands] 83.128.11.240
[Netherlands] 83.128.12.0
[Netherlands] 83.128.12.35
[Netherlands] 83.128.12.130
[Netherlands] 83.128.12.146
[Netherlands] 83.128.12.154
[Netherlands] 83.128.12.213
[Netherlands] 83.128.12.219
[Netherlands] 83.128.13.147
[Netherlands] 83.128.14.21
[Netherlands] 83.128.14.79
[Netherlands] 83.128.14.118
[Netherlands] 83.128.14.170
[Netherlands] 83.128.14.188
[Netherlands] 83.128.14.203
[Netherlands] 83.128.14.238
[Netherlands] 83.128.15.26
[Netherlands] 83.128.15.48
[Netherlands] 83.128.15.131
[Netherlands] 83.128.15.145
[Netherlands] 83.128.15.205
[Netherlands] 83.128.15.251
[Netherlands] 83.128.16.51
[Netherlands] 83.128.16.59
[Netherlands] 83.128.16.69
[Netherlands] 83.128.16.129
[Netherlands] 83.128.16.137
[Netherlands] 83.128.16.147
[Netherlands] 83.128.16.150
[Netherlands] 83.128.16.217
[Netherlands] 83.128.16.220
[Netherlands] 83.128.17.14
[Netherlands] 83.128.17.27
[Netherlands] 83.128.17.30
[Netherlands] 83.128.17.46
[Netherlands] 83.128.17.131
[Netherlands] 83.128.17.184
[Netherlands] 83.128.17.194
[Netherlands] 83.128.17.211
[Netherlands] 83.128.17.237
[Netherlands] 83.128.18.8
[Netherlands] 83.128.18.47
[Netherlands] 83.128.18.82
[Netherlands] 83.128.18.102
[Netherlands] 83.128.18.153
[Netherlands] 83.128.18.171
[Netherlands] 83.128.18.210
[Netherlands] 83.128.19.3
[Netherlands] 83.128.19.113
[Netherlands] 83.128.19.143
[Netherlands] 83.128.19.192
[Netherlands] 83.128.19.253
Alias Tracker Data
testlagg 83.128.17.194 Dec 10, 2007 at 9:17 am
luGer 83.128.19.3 Dec 09, 2007 at 11:21 am
|hdd.F A M O U S 83.128.19.3 Dec 09, 2007 at 8:12 am
SniperNoob faMousj 83.128.16.69 Dec 08, 2007 at 5:01 pm
allrounderNoob faMou 83.128.16.69 Dec 08, 2007 at 4:57 pm
F A M O U S .. 83.128.16.69 Dec 08, 2007 at 2:08 pm
n0 Peertjuh #thugster 83.128.14.79 Dec 07, 2007 at 2:45 pm
omg 83.128.14.79 Dec 07, 2007 at 11:11 am
n0 faMousjuh 83.128.18.47 Dec 05, 2007 at 2:21 pm
n0 peeRtjuh 83.128.10.68 Dec 04, 2007 at 1:21 pm
F A M O U S . 83.128.14.203 Dec 01, 2007 at 11:37 am
i've no energy left 83.128.11.58 Nov 29, 2007 at 12:33 pm
et=sux 83.128.11.58 Nov 29, 2007 at 11:20 am
FirstgAme 83.128.11.240 Nov 27, 2007 at 10:19 am
faMousjuh /di 83.128.12.219 Nov 25, 2007 at 11:37 am
gg 83.128.12.219 Nov 25, 2007 at 7:47 am
/Firstgame +Coldhands 83.128.15.205 Nov 24, 2007 at 2:35 pm
Im So Cold Warm Me U 83.128.19.192 Nov 23, 2007 at 10:33 am
Within Temptation - All I need 83.128.19.192 Nov 23, 2007 at 8:41 am
/di faMousjuh 83.128.19.192 Nov 23, 2007 at 8:34 am
faMousjuh CODAIM 83.128.11.76 Nov 22, 2007 at 1:17 pm
F A M O U S J U H 83.128.15.251 Nov 20, 2007 at 12:45 pm
faMousjuh =) 83.128.18.171 Nov 18, 2007 at 4:12 pm
Ik Ben Een Zoon Van #God! 83.128.18.171 Nov 18, 2007 at 9:03 am
famOus. 83.128.18.171 Nov 18, 2007 at 5:17 am
#faMous 83.128.18.171 Nov 18, 2007 at 4:38 am
#faMous Lugeronly 83.128.18.82 Nov 17, 2007 at 12:14 pm
Im At New Settings, SO STFU 83.128.18.82 Nov 17, 2007 at 11:21 am
WeAreUberMix.faMous 83.128.18.82 Nov 17, 2007 at 10:52 am
Problem4me.faMous 83.128.18.82 Nov 17, 2007 at 7:39 am
faMousjuh 83.128.18.82 Nov 17, 2007 at 6:26 am
Ik ben de zoon van God! 83.128.17.27 Nov 16, 2007 at 10:11 am
God is met ons. 83.128.17.27 Nov 16, 2007 at 9:19 am
COLDHANDS = LOW 83.128.18.153 Nov 15, 2007 at 10:43 am
F I R S T G A M E 83.128.16.51 Nov 13, 2007 at 2:24 pm
A Z I B E L 83.128.16.51 Nov 13, 2007 at 12:07 pm
Im Proud Of Not Beeing Polish 83.128.16.51 Nov 13, 2007 at 10:32 am
fAMOUS /di 83.128.11.221 Nov 12, 2007 at 9:00 am
Im Proud Beeing a NonHacke 83.128.9.202 Nov 11, 2007 at 12:48 pm
UNLOCK TEAMS RETARDS 83.128.9.202 Nov 11, 2007 at 11:27 am
Im proud of beeing non-polish 83.128.9.202 Nov 11, 2007 at 11:17 am
F A M O U S #divineint 83.128.9.202 Nov 11, 2007 at 11:11 am
Massive BodyShots :) 83.128.9.202 Nov 11, 2007 at 6:58 am
Polish - 100. Retard 83.128.9.202 Nov 11, 2007 at 5:17 am
ohrly? 83.128.8.183 Nov 10, 2007 at 11:03 am
MORNINGHELLOW 83.128.8.183 Nov 10, 2007 at 5:24 am
-BORAT- 83.128.8.183 Nov 10, 2007 at 4:35 am
NeePlx 83.128.12.0 Nov 09, 2007 at 10:12 am
F A M O U S 83.128.17.46 Nov 04, 2007 at 9:30 am
biNLaden.fAMINATOR 83.128.17.46 Nov 04, 2007 at 6:59 am
fAMINATOR (ja) 83.128.17.184 Nov 03, 2007 at 5:49 pm
f'AMINATOR. 83.128.16.137 Nov 02, 2007 at 3:09 pm
s'Od 83.128.16.137 Nov 02, 2007 at 1:59 pm
fAMI'NATOR 83.128.16.137 Nov 02, 2007 at 1:01 pm
The Son Of The Devil! 83.128.16.137 Nov 02, 2007 at 12:58 pm
0NoHax 1NoSkill 83.128.16.147 Nov 01, 2007 at 11:02 am
SmileyPopo 83.128.16.147 Nov 01, 2007 at 10:57 am
? '? 83.128.18.210 Oct 28, 2007 at 11:56 am
The Suicide. 83.128.12.130 Oct 24, 2007 at 9:52 am
nvm going low 83.128.12.130 Oct 24, 2007 at 4:25 am
FaMi 83.128.15.131 Oct 22, 2007 at 3:37 pm
WillemZz 83.128.15.131 Oct 22, 2007 at 2:01 pm
fAmi -1HS 83.128.15.131 Oct 22, 2007 at 4:37 am
AMINATOR 83.128.15.131 Oct 22, 2007 at 3:54 am
dlb :: fAmi 83.128.19.253 Oct 21, 2007 at 9:08 am
>fAMINATOR<Cless 83.128.19.253 Oct 21, 2007 at 4:17 am
fAMINATOR.. 83.128.16.129 Oct 20, 2007 at 8:02 am
fAMINATOR Cless 83.128.16.129 Oct 20, 2007 at 7:53 am
famous brb 83.128.19.143 Oct 19, 2007 at 1:41 pm
faMous ZeroHeadshots 83.128.19.143 Oct 19, 2007 at 12:08 pm
fAMINATOR ,=- 83.128.19.143 Oct 19, 2007 at 11:03 am
TheLastBeerSoort{faMous 83.128.19.143 Oct 19, 2007 at 8:14 am
randomplayer 83.128.18.102 Oct 18, 2007 at 1:19 pm
notmyrealname 83.128.18.102 Oct 18, 2007 at 12:33 pm
famous wrmup 83.128.18.102 Oct 18, 2007 at 12:27 pm
famous < eating > dontkick 83.128.18.102 Oct 18, 2007 at 12:21 pm
-fAMINATOR,=- 83.128.18.102 Oct 18, 2007 at 10:56 am
GayColors<3 83.128.17.194 Oct 17, 2007 at 2:03 pm
faminator 83.128.8.197 Oct 16, 2007 at 3:35 pm
Ok? 83.128.12.213 Oct 14, 2007 at 6:56 am
IkbenDomLomp&Famous 83.128.8.131 Oct 13, 2007 at 4:39 pm
kosmetdesnor.. 83.128.8.131 Oct 13, 2007 at 10:14 am
famous highsenser. 83.128.10.223 Oct 12, 2007 at 1:51 pm
faMous.>:D 83.128.10.223 Oct 12, 2007 at 1:07 pm
UnFaith faMous.Desire 83.128.10.223 Oct 12, 2007 at 11:00 am
UnFaith faMous Desire 83.128.10.223 Oct 12, 2007 at 9:03 am
Famous<3 83.128.16.150 Oct 11, 2007 at 11:30 am
famous. newsensy 83.128.16.150 Oct 11, 2007 at 10:55 am
UnFaith faMous TO 83.128.17.30 Oct 10, 2007 at 11:07 am
faMous{Cless 83.128.14.21 Oct 08, 2007 at 1:00 pm
KmDs NeedClan 83.128.14.21 Oct 08, 2007 at 11:14 am
kosmetdesnor 83.128.14.21 Oct 08, 2007 at 9:27 am
hihihaha 83.128.17.211 Oct 07, 2007 at 11:24 am
- faMous Cless 83.128.10.49 Oct 06, 2007 at 5:18 pm
faMous'Cless 83.128.10.49 Oct 06, 2007 at 5:20 am
- faMous 83.128.10.49 Oct 05, 2007 at 10:37 am
hihi 83.128.10.49 Oct 05, 2007 at 9:55 am
faMous NewDpi NewSens 83.128.17.14 Oct 04, 2007 at 1:40 pm
Supaz 83.128.17.14 Oct 04, 2007 at 11:31 am
faMousje 83.128.14.170 Oct 03, 2007 at 1:49 pm
faMous< 83.128.14.170 Oct 03, 2007 at 11:30 am
faMous 83.128.11.153 Oct 01, 2007 at 12:50 pm
vAzza <3cfg 83.128.11.153 Oct 01, 2007 at 11:07 am
faMous Newsens 83.128.11.153 Oct 01, 2007 at 9:50 am
haha 83.128.11.153 Oct 01, 2007 at 9:34 am
Snoop 83.128.11.153 Oct 01, 2007 at 9:27 am
pols gekneust 83.128.15.145 Sep 30, 2007 at 2:42 pm
hand gekneust 83.128.15.145 Sep 30, 2007 at 6:24 am
Newaimbot NOT 83.128.15.145 Sep 30, 2007 at 5:00 am
famous hand gekneust 83.128.15.145 Sep 30, 2007 at 4:00 am
ETPlayer 83.128.10.132 Sep 28, 2007 at 3:06 pm
faMous, Unmute Or Bb 83.128.10.132 Sep 28, 2007 at 12:52 pm
newsens newdpi newmouse 83.128.10.132 Sep 28, 2007 at 8:58 am
vAzza0Cless 83.128.15.48 Sep 27, 2007 at 3:13 pm
pl0x!Revers 83.128.15.48 Sep 27, 2007 at 2:44 pm
revers 83.128.15.48 Sep 27, 2007 at 12:38 pm
WillemZz<3fl0wz 83.128.15.48 Sep 27, 2007 at 10:19 am
Willemzz newmouse 83.128.19.113 Sep 26, 2007 at 3:28 pm
rofl 83.128.19.113 Sep 26, 2007 at 10:47 am
newmouse Wannabenator 83.128.14.238 Sep 25, 2007 at 11:50 am
willemzznewmousemx518 83.128.14.238 Sep 25, 2007 at 10:52 am
WillemZz. 83.128.14.238 Sep 25, 2007 at 10:07 am
fAMINATOR NewCfg 83.128.17.131 Sep 24, 2007 at 2:54 pm
fiRw. 83.128.17.131 Sep 24, 2007 at 9:47 am
faMous! NewSens! 83.128.17.131 Sep 24, 2007 at 8:53 am
Testinat0r.Cfg<3 83.128.8.43 Sep 23, 2007 at 3:45 pm
fAMINATOR! 83.128.8.43 Sep 23, 2007 at 12:33 pm
NEWCFG OK? 83.128.8.43 Sep 23, 2007 at 7:36 am
wie? 83.128.8.43 Sep 23, 2007 at 7:34 am
faMinATOR MP3 83.128.8.43 Sep 23, 2007 at 5:09 am
WillemZz GodGiveMePowe 83.128.9.113 Sep 21, 2007 at 2:07 pm
test 83.128.9.113 Sep 21, 2007 at 9:13 am
-------------'>>>>>> 83.128.16.220 Sep 18, 2007 at 10:42 am
Chatman& faMous 83.128.9.41 Sep 16, 2007 at 11:13 am
Chome Chome 83.128.9.41 Sep 16, 2007 at 5:59 am
Chome Cless 83.128.12.154 Sep 15, 2007 at 10:17 am
aZUME' Chemo 83.128.8.204 Sep 14, 2007 at 11:16 am
aZumeFaMous Newsettings 83.128.8.204 Sep 14, 2007 at 10:37 am
azuMe. faMous</3 83.128.12.146 Sep 13, 2007 at 1:30 pm
Linked GUID(s) (26)
ET dd501a39d7a8aee8789d6252f2f8efa5 (83.128.19.113)
AA 90aad1275194295e642bcc66f604dbb7 (83.128.18.210)
AA 89e1ad49574572309fa5be3fd6908c33 (83.128.18.210)
AA 183c0158f8747415a5dd8658b50c2033 (83.128.18.210)
AA c17ef44e5373ed315263368d02887932 (83.128.12.130)
AA c83c97d372e3a7f1fee740674f7de716 (83.128.18.210)
BF2 af9b58dc56b2f5dc213aa6cfbe172282 (83.128.12.219)
COD2 9d6ff8781fbaea8180b82e65a6e432d3 (83.128.8.131)
BF2 5bb9372e045f6c14c5f2637d5087e19c (83.128.10.49)
COD 9edc174fbb3d921641368e779947e7b4 (83.128.15.251)
COD 81845803ebc700b5581154653b7b88da (83.128.14.79)
CODUO 2f09adb296c5e34ed4ab5912498bcf54 (83.128.15.48)
ET 76b55971b92017788f5f36d715589f5f (83.128.10.49)
ET 645d213a14c7bd61b9cb3dcd74c8137b (83.128.16.137)
ET 28ac9cdf86774095dfa42374a7567010 (83.128.14.188)
ET d6d7ce6f1d1510f4599902cf33612fa2 (83.128.9.62)
ET 6e0a57422b1f11bc3a76bb9fd32a7a5c (83.128.19.3)
ET ba4ad173e63e52fd138b635ca5cfc043 (83.128.19.3)
ET 79149535c839d4019e37c6e85aeb8f0a (83.128.16.220)
ET f15514eba823b07a9b71462d2174cbc6 (83.128.14.238)
ET df1dd9331900c9715c16a664ce4f3aad (83.128.14.238)
COD4 9feeb7aad734e98b6c2aa2eff94bf340 (83.128.10.132)
COD e7c47cd967bcb651a77e4c3537d97707 (83.128.16.147)
ET c339f929cf8711298817d6521ad9f3f9 (83.128.17.194)
COD 18e8a32f9577f85b75d85a2d0a5f6b92 (83.128.17.14)
COD2 f7a2421b7143d063b153c2afdb7c8124 (83.128.16.217)
Have you see his bust of me ? Funny to egoquit a cheater, but more funny to read directly after a journal about cheat and me ! :b
I accuse Santa/EasterBunny/his dad for cheater sponsoring
and making the payment
love the part with the xfire programs and the proxy part =D
:))))
made me smile
anyway:
this man is the most handycapped retard i have ever seen.
goddamn man, go chew on some raw eggs and then die of aids, coz u are one of the few things bringing crossfire.nu down to a community commonly known as one of the most retarded around :/
compared with:
made my day, maybe even my week, maybe.. just maybe.. its the best thing in 2008 :)
not trying to defend, just being open minded :)