ESL zeroE vs n1ce
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25 Apr 2008, 08:12
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HEI!
I want to write this journal to clear it once bcoz i don't want to be flamed anymore in private messages.
So.. yesterday we ( zeroE) had a ESL qualy vs n1ce LINK-> http://www.esl.eu/eu/et/6on6/eu_ems/match/9214126/ .
We came on the server with 6 main lineup all added at ESL roster. After that they came with 3 players added at roster, 2 players who actually play with them on ESL and CB but they are not in roster and 1 player/merc who is playing this ESL ems qauly with another clan.
So after long time waiting for admin's answer we left server bcoz they didn't have players in the roster.
WHY?
Basically its not our fault if thier leader mama didn't put in roster that 3 guyz who were going to play yesterday 9 days before the match as ESL rules says. They also knew that yesterday was the deadline of the match. Everyone knows rules and everyone should respect them.
I will give just an example.. If this was CB and we got 3 players who weren't added like they had yesterday we got automaticly lost forfeited. Doesn't matter in which league we are playing, every league should get respected.
And now if there is someone who wants to say that we won by being gay/lame or smth - WHY? ..there is nothing about being gay. We just respect rules, everyone should do it, otherwise big leagues like ESL/CB were dead already.
Even mama has a quote in his profile:
Have a nice day, work is waiting for me.
I want to write this journal to clear it once bcoz i don't want to be flamed anymore in private messages.
So.. yesterday we ( zeroE) had a ESL qualy vs n1ce LINK-> http://www.esl.eu/eu/et/6on6/eu_ems/match/9214126/ .
We came on the server with 6 main lineup all added at ESL roster. After that they came with 3 players added at roster, 2 players who actually play with them on ESL and CB but they are not in roster and 1 player/merc who is playing this ESL ems qauly with another clan.
So after long time waiting for admin's answer we left server bcoz they didn't have players in the roster.
WHY?
Basically its not our fault if thier leader mama didn't put in roster that 3 guyz who were going to play yesterday 9 days before the match as ESL rules says. They also knew that yesterday was the deadline of the match. Everyone knows rules and everyone should respect them.
I will give just an example.. If this was CB and we got 3 players who weren't added like they had yesterday we got automaticly lost forfeited. Doesn't matter in which league we are playing, every league should get respected.
And now if there is someone who wants to say that we won by being gay/lame or smth - WHY? ..there is nothing about being gay. We just respect rules, everyone should do it, otherwise big leagues like ESL/CB were dead already.
Even mama has a quote in his profile:
Have a nice day, work is waiting for me.
what is the next match ? (inter i mean)
24.04.08 18:57h n1ce.it new_member Nonix
24.04.08 21:10h n1ce.it new_member asd.
actually nonix was added to the team before the match yesterday and asd aswell , i guess we forgot to add them while many things happened the last 2-3 weeks inside the team and we had to play in eurocup. So mama added them yesterday before the match but they were not inside the team cause of the 10 days trial period time. Mama did his fucking job it was just about you to allow this guys playing and you fucking knew that this guys were playing with us in this ec season, so i just guess u were afraid of playing a "mix".
gl in rl with this attitude, hopefully one4one will rape your ass , gl to them <3
If you don't respect rules in real life at the end you are in prison.
http://www.crossfire.nu/?x=forum&mode=item&id=8062
CB > ESL
imo its bad sportmansship if u think ur above the rules or just don't care about them. Everyone playing in esl knows there is a 10 day rule (yea, its too long).
No half made/mix/merc team should play in cups, that's why this rule exists.
quite about a year ago I had the same problem playing vs. mixed team in esl, who you already knew before the season started that the people in it weren't goin to play. Right before our match they add 3 players and then whine and flame you for 30 minutes. (wnb, retard, lowskiller, random). Is that sportmansship? =P
ofc this is quite a different case, as n1ce isn't a mixed team, but if their excuse is "1 of them played with us last year" and "we forgot to add them cause we were busy" that really doesn't need a comment.
Edit: we lost our oc match cause 2 of us weren't able to update their guid vs. cwg in time ;)
furthermore we did nothing against the rules since they allowed us to use 1 merc and the other 2 guys were added before the match so they would just have to allow them and we would have been able to play the match if they just would have wanted to.
I know that there is nothing worse than losing on default cause of stuff like that (see my edit)...
Well I get ur point in ur edit... It's not like u would have added them only for the game...
Although rules need to be in place, people should also try to remember why they are playing, its a game ffs, and if everyone could turn around at every problem and say ok we win by default, then we have no game spirit.
You know yourself, from a recent incident how things like changing guids can be overlooked. I believe that we should be concentrating more on ironing out cheaters, rather than mobbing innocents and making the game more beuracratic than it should be. If a player can be proved clean, and he hasnt played for another team in same comp, then np.
That's what rules should be like. Same for everyone, not depending on the mood of an admin.
And if they forgot to add them on time, don't you think they would have forgotten to talk to admin? :P
anyway wsk, I believe we have something more important to discuss :p
I'm out today for a bit, but can u talk to infi? in #inmotion, or cutty if he's about...
It comes down to simple sportmanship and remembering what this is. A game guys!! it's something we are doing for our pleasure. In tons of cases it's quite obvious that fielding certain players is a no-go or a simple "yah why not".
Rules should never be taken as written in stone, but as guidelines, and especially if comon sense (not allowed for 10 days is ABSURD) simply says "this rule is stupid".
dAnOnE is not my friend
n1ce to see someone caring about rules since usually everone just whine about those
but hey, rules are fucked, we just got kicked from OC for 2x noshow (1x we played but cb sais 0-0 and 1x we wanted to play but we+oppo agreed to reschedule and then they wanted to play with junky. cb admin sais rescheduling is not allowed anyway, noshow both! :X)
cya @ lan 8D
no offence but they are onlineonly team and you all know it already
non solo cittate e giocate da 3 mesi fate pure i lamer co ste cagate
gg
hahahaha rofl, dio tu nn sai niente di noi.. sta zitto ti fara meglio.
e se non vengono alle lan e chi viene suca non è colpa mia