EC without Punkbuster
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10 Sep 2008, 15:25
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I just played a wonderful 3on3 of Enemy Lagitory again. It's unbelievable how Punkbuster can seriously fuck your whole game up by CONSTANTLY making your game have fps drops. One map it's pretty normal (like one fps drop in a minute), the other game it's like having someone repeatedly shaking and kicking your monitor over the course of 3 minutes with fps lags every millisecond.
I'm seriously doubting I'm the only one in ET experiencing this problem. I also am 100% sure it isn't PC related (I sometimes don't have this problem and other times I do while changing NOTHING about my PC, rebooting also doesn't fix it and I had this before formatting as well) or connection related (since it isn't connection lag). It also hasn't got anything to do with punkbuster screenshots (I'm experiencing them as a separate, connection lag).
Most of the time I have a stable 125fps but when I'm experiencing this lag it shoots to ~50fps for one small shock, making my aim totally off. That's only small shocking however and I experience that most of the time, every second or so for a whole round.
The other sort of lag I'm experiencing is something which doesn't happen all the time. It's the sort of lag that happens at random for like 1 minute straight and disappears afterwards. Punkbuster 'screens' or something like it and I experience heavy fps swings from 90 to 125 back and forth back and forth making aiming totally impossible and making me rage like a bull on steroids.
I seriously think disabling Punkbuster for big games makes the game more enjoyable for most of the players, especially those having these problems like I do.
Discuss.
EDIT: It also isn't server-related or anything, I experience it on almost every server.
I'm seriously doubting I'm the only one in ET experiencing this problem. I also am 100% sure it isn't PC related (I sometimes don't have this problem and other times I do while changing NOTHING about my PC, rebooting also doesn't fix it and I had this before formatting as well) or connection related (since it isn't connection lag). It also hasn't got anything to do with punkbuster screenshots (I'm experiencing them as a separate, connection lag).
Most of the time I have a stable 125fps but when I'm experiencing this lag it shoots to ~50fps for one small shock, making my aim totally off. That's only small shocking however and I experience that most of the time, every second or so for a whole round.
The other sort of lag I'm experiencing is something which doesn't happen all the time. It's the sort of lag that happens at random for like 1 minute straight and disappears afterwards. Punkbuster 'screens' or something like it and I experience heavy fps swings from 90 to 125 back and forth back and forth making aiming totally impossible and making me rage like a bull on steroids.
I seriously think disabling Punkbuster for big games makes the game more enjoyable for most of the players, especially those having these problems like I do.
Discuss.
EDIT: It also isn't server-related or anything, I experience it on almost every server.
DO U HAVE SERVER WITH NO PB???
pm decem for more specialised PB-whine.
p.s player of the match again i guess?
This is how my ET works the last 2 weeks.
but i guess no of the ec players will get busted during ec matches anyway, so it could be disabled in ec. just keep it in oc.
etace needed, go chaplja XD
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But if its a legitimate concern, edit this journal a touch and post it as a column
perhaps a family member would be better...
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THE PROBLEM IS REAL!... some ppl got it some not...
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for all the haters out there who don't know..... IT IS PB!!!
just quit et, if you cant stand pb, it has been like this since the release of ET and untill this last 1year none really complained
take like it like a man or please, for the last time, quit this game and do the community a favor with your whinelism shiat
OH YEAH BECAUSE IN 2003 PUNKBUSTER ALSO INSTALLED RESOURCE HOGGING AGGRESSIVE PnkstrbA/B SERVICES IN WINDOWS WITHOUT TELLING ME
No wait, it didn't... suprise suprise it happened about a year ago... which... is why everyone has been whining "since 1year" or whatever.
Seriously get a clue moran.
one of the very retarded acts that i have encountered before
so i totally agree with turn off pb!
need anti3 ;]
Die eaten by 12 baby pigs
i dont get that sentence... :(
It's supa funny :'(
I really hope that PB gets disabled in competition, as they ruined the smoothness of the game completely. Yesterday I disabled PB's processes and played for some time on a server without it. All I can say is that PB is a total failure. It's nice to have an anti-cheat system, but I won't touch a game where warps and lags decide the outcome of a match.
What's more, PB is one of the things that discouraged most new players from playing the game. All those errors, kicks, being forced to manually update pb... ppl aren't able to jump into the game and enjoy it.
I really hope that when etace project is complete, ppl will reconsider disabling PB in competition.
EDIT: I still remember times 2-3 years ago, when pb didn't have windows processes. All was working pretty nicely. Such a failure...
ET has only one advantage to attract the new ppl: low requirements compared to newer games. PB has taken this away. I can play CSS with stable 100fps on most popular maps, but i can't play ET which is a better game and should work smoother.
BTW You might neglect that, but all ET has compared to other new games in terms of attracting new players is low system requirements. PB has taken this away.
after all it's not PB who annoys us, it's the cheaters, aka humanity, aka you(not saying you cheat, but generally)
we got it to ourselves...
i will tell you a little example,
in Israel here, it can be dangerous sometimes to walk to the mall, as it was free walk to anyone who wanted to come into the mall, terrorist could simply enter and blow this shit place(imagery to cheaters) so the government forced malls (and public places) to have security(a guy who stands, check bags etc, similar to airport) which is imagery to PB, the more dangerous the terrorist will be and sophisticated, the more solutions we will have to get (even if we have to sacrifice power, time). the more sophisticated and popular the cheaters are, the more PB needs ways to block them... and it kind of hurts ET, but at least it stops ALOT of cheats, but ALOT
it can be also temporarily, of course, there will probably be a different way to deal with this, but for now use this until you have a better solution
thanks, and i still have 2 years left to learn english
By saying it's crap i don't mean that it doesn't catch any cheaters (it does) but it makes the game unplayable for many players. Have you had the issue, you'd be saying the same.
EDIT: You editing bastard!
but ye it's surely worse than it was a year ago for example
Not doing any linux propaganda (since with it it's a problem with VoIP software), but on windows indeed I had such problems. Also could blame PB not checking the linux users for megahax family packs .. ;o or is it now? ;oo
:x n1
dunno if it was my isp but today i played a 3on3 and got lagspikes every time the opponent came out aka every 5 seconds it went 999 for 5 seconds :(. i think it's in punkbuster then
<perfo> butchji just got 3 hs from SUPERBOT LOL OWNED
<perfo> mAus just got 3 hs from SUPERBOT LOL OWNED
<perfo> SnOop just got 3 hs from SUPERBOT LOL OWNED
<perfo> randomhigh just got 3 hs from SUPERBOT LOL OWNED
<perfo> guesswho just got 3 hs from SUPERBOT LOL OWNED
I dont care about these little freezes because i have low fps anyway but this crashing shit makes me mad, especially when playing official.
It's those bastard PnkstrbA/B services that decide to randomly feel the need to steal system resources away from things that are actually useful.
ET sometimes give little spikes... but... nothing is perfect. :)
renttu pwned
Pisses me off considering the game struggled to pull some good FPS anyway, PB are taking cheating measurements too far, I don't accept constant scans in the back!!.
There must be another anti-cheat client out there which uses less resurces as PB. When I have no game loaded Pb a and pb b are loaded into my RAM :o.
PB used to be good when I played and did it's job fine, I gather since hackers are going to extremes to beat these techniques we are having to suffer.
Happens with me on COD4 :(.
Someone sort it out