Boycotting CB
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9 Mar 2009, 20:06
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There it is -> http://clanbase.ggl.com/humaninfo.php?hid=2280771
That's my account. Left all clans and deleted all clans of which I was the leader.
I'm boycotting CB and will never play for them again.
Who's with me!
That's my account. Left all clans and deleted all clans of which I was the leader.
I'm boycotting CB and will never play for them again.
Who's with me!
I just think there are better ways of protest, like playing covert. I think I'll play covert.
Panda on 09/03/09, 18:13:25
RAPE
JUST CRUISE CONTROLIN'
If change was desired, it should've been done before the actual rules gets used/abused.
The rules are open to interpretation, as I've posted earlier, and in no way have I or anyone else seen tekoa as a 4th active dNan player and thus would break the 3 player rule. He never played an offi for dNan and is only listed with dNan in the "inactive members" group. That is not a situation that this rule was made for, and the rule even states as a last line "Exceptions may apply", but do you think they ever will?
I'm just done with CB. The ppl with the most power are ppl that know jack shit about ET and the scene involved with ET. Heck even the supervisors think it's stupid to remove these nations from the NC. I'm just done with CB. Period.
And as for service that I have to perform as captain, I guess you missed the journal a while back where I fired myself as Team NL captain.
cb is a fucking joke anyway...
"we dont need CB to tell us how to play a cup"
Isnt it THEIR cup? cause afaik it is, which means yes CB needs to tell you how to play this cup since its THEIR cup.
Im deleting my cb account after OC though .. !
oc/nc/ec dont want miss
Having said that, I don't agree with the rule, nor am I trying to vindicate CB's actions, but I consider it quite disrespectful to start throwing toys out of the pram after the fact, when there was plenty of room for discussion beforehand.
ClanBase is comprised of a group of people that, whether you agree with them or not, are trying to provide a service for the community. Making arbitrary complaints about ClanBase as though it's an omnipotent megalomaniac is rather counter-productive, don't you think? If you really feel so strongly about it then set up a new 'EuroCup' with your own rules.
To take your 'EC qualifiers' example - I have absolutely no doubt that many of those who are disgruntled at the qualifiers will still sign up to next season's EuroCup, and should something go wrong, will bitch about it. Is this logical?
It just doesn't make any sense to have a 'OH MY GOD WHAT THE FUCK CLANBASE THIS IS BULLSHIT' reaction everytime ClanBase do something that goes against the community's grain - it's happened enough times already, we really shouldn't be surprised anymore. ClanBase have no obligations regarding quality of service.
I'm not playing for CB anymore. period.
That game cant be ran with some fucked up 1day cups, 2 crossfire challanges a year and some uninteresting ESL tournaments...
You cant keep it alive with some competitions, that only mixteams or 2weekteams participate in like a nationscup or any kind of that shit.
CB offered us the biggest competition in ET, the Eurocup, taking ET to a really high level (which is needed to keep it alive),
they have great supervisors for our part such as mUnduS and Bartichello...
The Game needs profession and CB is the only organisation offering that
Some internal Changes have to happen!
and btw. i guess the people knowing you wont simply follow you... i know you as a guy that can pritty fast loose your nerves and i see this as an act of frustration and emotion without thinking about the consequences
People are overreacting imo
And you are damned right it is an act of emotion and frustration because I'm pissed that the people in charge at CB, that enforced this decision (and other bad ones in the past as well) , don't have a clue about ET but decided that 3 nations should just leave their cup because of a stupidly interpreted rule. But this is also an act of choosing a path for my own good. I don't feel like being fucked around by the incompetence of CB and thus choose not to be a part of their community anymore.
In my opinion we don't need CB. We just make CB more than it is by thinking of EC/OC/NC etc. but meanwhile there's so many fuck ups in the last couple years that I don't see CB as a nessecity to the ET-Scene anymore.
its a principle you just dont understand.
I know and i am fucking sure that mUnduS and Bartichello are trying to do the best job possible for the ET community and they have a clue about ET.
They and others ofc have already ran 100s of successful and exciting tournaments.
The fact why everything went wrong was, that they dont have the abilities to make their own rules or change anything about it.
They are not the chiefs and cant judge over everything.
They have rules they have to follow even if they would like to cry for some actions.
The heads of CB are just running an organisation. They are not really responsible for every single game.
Its just a process between our ET supervisors and the CB heads that has to be done.
But boycotting everything is just the most stupid way you can choose.
I know that our supervisors are everything but happy with the decisions made and i m actually sure that they are going to look for some discussions to change some things in CB.
But CB is not some kiddy organisation like a 1daycup where rules are just something to make it look real. Everything that has been done is sad but i cant help it.
I think having mundus and bartichello as our supervisors is the best thing that could happen to us and if you simply boycott it, you fuck up everything they are working for all day and fucking hard.
Simply get the point!
I play this game for fun. It is not fun to be dicked around by ppl in an organisation that don't know shit about the game you are playing, yet they set the rules and overrule their cupsupervisors to take decisions that the cupsupervisors do not agree with.
Why is boycotting CB the most stupid way I could go? What does it change for me? It's actually the best decision for me and for tons of other people.
I know enough people that have been CB Admins and they all have the same feeling about the CB heads and that is that they are not connected to the game enough to make such decisions and that it's almost impossible to bring them to a different view.
I simply say, fuck the discussion altogether since it's useless. CB is not gonna change their ways and new epic fails by CB are not even a question if they will happen again but a question of when they will happen again. And for something I'm supposed to be doing for fun in my spare time, I simply don't want to deal with such an organisation anymore.
Is it that hard to understand? I was not on CB to go into some political debate with strongheaded admins that make strange decisions and can't seem to write rules that are not open to several interpretations. I was there to have fun, plain and simple. And it simply isn't anymore, so I stop playing there.
ETmasters not even 150
ESL Cups ~100-120 ?
Warleagues barely 50
I wouldn't describe OC as merely a cup. It's THE cup every ET team wants to participate in. Etmasters proved that you can't simply replace OC =)
Not that clanbase is anything uberspecial or whatever but its the only propper large organization supporting et (well ESL too but ppl dont like them..)