What is Crossfire?

As the title suggests – we’re discussing the direction of xf elsewhere, and disagreements tend to boil down to people having differing understandings of what exactly xf is, and what makes it good.

So what do you guys thing? Anything & everything, comment structure, page layout to the moderation. What be good, what be bad?

What is Crossfire?
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5 years and 0 days Pewpew!

And i still dont no why i keep browsing this site :[
I always had you down as a CoD fag - nick change, or return from inactivity?
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I used to play ET/RTCW years ago but got bored+MW2 came out
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cross·fire (krôsfr, krs-)
n.
1. Lines of fire from two or more positions crossing each other at a single point: soldiers caught in crossfire.
2. A confrontational situation in which opposing factions, forces, views, or opinions converge: "caught in the crossfire in a battle over Internet site names" (Denise Caruso).
3. Rapid, heated discussion.
gobal ET community site?
Crossfire = Nokia
Connecting People xd
My view would be that the comment structure of xf, the comment trees – allows discussions with discussions of discussions – meaning you can never quite be sure whether a threads gold or not, which keeps you reading!

Things like that. The fact I can ask daze some random shit about the time he’s been here, whilst there’s other relevant posts below mine that’ve not been buried, as I can just hop down beneath the comment tree.

Shit like that I guess – it’s the whole package.
I think it used to revolve around Enemy Territory, but with ET wounded like it is now, it changed into a place where people think they need to be funny and post useless shit all the time (I myself am not innocent in this) and whine and flame about everything ranging from cheaters to Wolfenstein. I do think funny stuff and journals are part of the site and community , even an occasional 4chan-ish thing makes it what it is, but there really is a lot of negativity going on around here.
CF is about Recruit/bust topics and funny journals
The thing that kept ET alive through the years. keeping the community (that is rather small) together, not only with ET-related things like news and discussions, but also being silly or retarted.
I agree that without the journals and spam site / ET would be dead (yup, even more dead that it is already).
A revolve of mainly retards who 90% of the time post useless information which co-incides inside a community which is a part of Enemy Territory.
crossfire is about meeting people, discussing opinions, about everything.. its such burrow of nerds, who have played ET for years.. its page, where you can find everything :)
mix between (nearly) 4chan-like spamboard and "serious" gaming content.
Most accurate definition. Period.
official sister of 4chan /b/
Wait, what?
undercover Cheater community!
Guess it just entertains people, be it journals, news or anything else. It also seems more personal than some other sites and people are easily accesable here. Everyone can express themselves in their profiles, browse others, find configs and tips and pretty much everything else revolving arround ET and the other supported games. Admins are nazis tho :p
entertaining when ur bored.
my life
Het klopt ook nog eens.....:XD
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I think this is a very important question and will shape where Crossfire is going, because size wise it is not getting any smaller despite game wise getting smaller.
'You guys' planning on making some essential changes to the site/community? I suppose questions like these aren't asked for nothing? :)
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let's say the question appeared in a discussion and couldn't be answered accurate enough yet :)
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CRossfire is like having a down sydnromed kid. It's utterly retarded but still you love him with all your heart.
Sounds like something your parents would have told you :]
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Nah my parents don't love me.
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You're not making me feel guilty.
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Cup filter for these small hosted cups is a must :( still doesn't exist. And these adverts in the middle of the site are so annoying, but well, thats bussiness. Would be cool that u can't see people's journals what you have on ignore list. Forum threads should also have author written on main page, so I dont have to bother and click on it who wrote it.

btw. kids are takeovering this site...rapidly! (so much trash is written and posted)

Need some more activity @articles/interviews sections.

Remove crossfight, it's dead!

And I'd like to see that all pics are put in thumbnails...

Need an option for journals and that is sticky...some things are simply not a news, not even a forum thread but can be a useful sticky journal for some days...or something like that.
this is a feature request but not realy saying what crossfire is, is it?
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I know, I'm just saying what can improve xf.

And nowadays, crossfire is only a community where kids tend to spam utter bullshit, while you can still read some useful and nice newsposts, some article or column from time to time but that's pretty much it. It's getting boring...and these positive things are just not enough anymore.
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series of tubes
crossfire is a message board filled with all kinds of different people
Where 3 month old lurking newfags come to spread meme's
Sounds familiar, suits your description.
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ease of use & user driven content
community, friendly people, everyone knows everyone, journals, trolls , life stories, flames, retards (:*)

more of an entertainment site, which keeps holding me here
Something like this for me aswell.
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food journals
random pics
naziadmins
Am I the only one who comes here to keep up to date with the latest youtube clips? :(
entertainment
its my life
it are the journals that keep xfire exciting

and ofc the epic selfbusts
place where i cand find variety of solutions to my problems
Need to be online more to be able to tell you
how could you possibly be more online? :>
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fire that crosses ofc...
Reading some nerdjournals from nerds who talk about their nerdlife = priceless
a website full of ignorant, flaming, whining kids that basically flame everything that they dont like.

ofc there are also nice and cool ppl around, sadly its not even a minority.
crossfire is a community which mainly consist of 16-18 year old kids. because of this userbase and a lack of tools such as [+] and [-] (which wont even work with a userbase like this) the site needs heavy moderating, ending in admins like sol fucking around with people, without taking the effort of checking admin logs, or actually having a clue what is going on or admins like Sainted who are just assholes in general.

Half the new admins are admins because they want a name for themselves, they dont even add content (they usually delete) and if they do it is rarely on the same level as some of the old newswriters. theres no network of newswriters, just a lot of ppl soloing (im not talking about ppl like swine who work for other sites)

Site lacks easy ways to add content (pics, videos, links) or markup text, site lacks easy ways to browse the content or sort it, search feature is a bitch, site lacks ways to give feedback (+ or -) its content so all the garbage stays on top.

but basicly this all has been said years ago
true bout admins, tho :* sol for our lovely night conversations

badass admin #1: Germany eiM & runner up: Germany chosen
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thx :D How do I come to this honor.
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own reasons :)
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If you want to judge them as bad admins you have to publish your reason.

If you dont do it then your post will be rated as flame/whine.

Can't say anything bad about them cuz I had no problems yet so It must be something between you and them. Maybe its you?
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maybe i shouldn't explain to noone, becuase thats just my opinion?

as i said, own reasons
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He touched you in your naughty zone didnt he? It's ok you can say, he's done it before.
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it's really not that bad
What would you change, if you were an admin?
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Overdrive is actually a good source of feedback, once you roll back the bitterness you can normally find some good ideas from him. And whether he likes to admit it or not, he loves crossfire - he comes to every lan, he visits the site a couple times every day and he contributes a lot of content.
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no, i love ET. crossfire is just the only ET community site.

and what the fuck do you expect me to be like, all nice? the way you treat your users you shouldnt expect anything less.
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Your admin log explains the recent rage, but allow me to address your concerns.

Ignoring the userbase problem; as although I’ve used that argument in the past, I’m not sure I want to sound quite so defeatist! But what positive things does the Esreality style popularity add? Since removing [-] it’s nothing more than e-penis – does that add anything to the site? Yes it’s nice that my status changed, and I always liked being seen as a celebrity, but did it change anything? Not so much. I can tell if a post is good by reading it, the popularity rating was always below that anyway - I don't need other people telling me it’s good…

Alternatives could be receiving “Thanks”.

Though the whole notion of popularity has always been so self congratulating, I hate the ethos that you deserve people’s thanks and should expect it for doing things. I add content because I want to add content; if it gets lots of hits, lots of posts & lots of discussion – great. The kind of torrent sites where uploaders get pissy if hundreds of people don’t click the “Thanks” button really get on my tits. The fact I’m downloading your torrent is proof enough that I’m grateful, be happy in the massive swarm on your torrent – why do you need more than that? Why do we need more than that?

Although I’ve suggested elsewhere we might want to consider getting with the times & copying the CPMA style wiki – though I don’t think that’s what you mean by quality (though that be so subjective!).

I disagree that the site lacks easy ways to add content – given the nature of the userbase I think it’s bordering madness to suggest that they can’t use simple bbcode, if you can – it’s way quicker than any user interface – and christ do I hate smilies, if that’s what you’re suggesting elsewhere. Links / images have never been a problem & have been avoided exactly because Crossfire is not, and never should be, some newbie infested cesspit.

The search feature was improved though I don’t know if that improvement has been lost (yes, nice fuck up), will check. I don’t think it’s any worse than elsewhere though there’s certainly room for improvement, equally in areas such as the tutorials. The “Popular” cloud located in “My Crossfire” will allow you to see the quality / popular journals, if that’s what’s being requested.

Though all this said – you’re missing the point of what’s being asked, despite all this shit, you still log in every day, and have done for years – why?
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Lets not also forget that ESR was a site that code wise was often top of the range of functionality yet its userbase killed the site off
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And a lack of nurturing from the top, in my humble opinion.
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boredom and lack of alternatives!
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It's practically the only website which brings the ET-community together.

- helps with ET related problems
- great for searching/forming a clan
- several fragmovies
- some great tutorials
a place where sol can add "<3penis" to any nick and feel horny after that for all the day till someone flames him
or chosen bans the people for reacting to sol's dictatorship :>
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i banned some1 cause of sol's dictatorship?

I banned for multiple accounts and personal reasons in two cases over the past 12 months, tell me more please :) (adding points is not banning!)
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well you unbanned evirdrevo :P so surely you don't count that
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I didn't ban him nor did I unban him oO
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well i only knew he got banned thought it was you might've been sol himself? yesterday where he changed the pick n roll picture?
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I accepted his nickchange before, I keep distance to what happened afterwards especially since I don't know what exactly happened
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ahh ok that was you .. guess then it was sol who banned him :p
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random pics
whine
and some ok people
kick admins like chosen
non-anonymous cousin
crossfire = ET community

nothing more to say
nerds, retards, faggots, nice and friendly people, helpful people all this shit is gathered here and it makes crossfire what it is . a site that is more as only talking about et. i mean srsly that guy posting shit about sit ups done with your penis etc it's just hilarious and that makes crossfire to sth. special. if i'm bored i browse crossfire, if i want to laugh i check the journals, if i want to know sth. or need help i check the forums/journals or post my own
you might want to check out sites like www.reddit.com or www.digg.com and you might start wondering why the fuck you would browse a site like crossfire which has no filtering or ways to sort content by its approval rating. All the stuff posted on crossfire is posted on these sites also, but the interface is way way way better
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i know both of this sites but idc about your beloved [+] [-] feature (just an example), and about filtering. if i browse crossfire i do it because i have time and i'm bored, just klicking around.
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As nellie says, you flame it but you come back, every day, several times a day. Why?
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cause there's literally no alternative for ET that is europewide. only some country - x only sites
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Get overdrive to make one for you!
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im already on taggers ;)
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website imo
crossfire good? *cough*

I nearly don't read it anymore, only if someone c/p me some journal. In my eyes it's a place for e-heroes to act cool, and that's it. Barely anything useful on it. Sorry.
and you still keep on posting.
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but how often? :p 10 comments / week? awesome activity!
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it's not like you haven't been one of the e-heroes tbh :)
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if you think that, kay, can't do anything about it but I didn't start the whine. I only defended myself.
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Personally CF for me is a discussion board about pretty much anything. I come here to see if anything interesting is around worthy to express my opinion about. Besides that the usual youtube vid here and there is somewhat interesting.

For me personally the fact it's a gaming site is not very interesting, it's the thing that binds at all but besides that we're all very different from each other and that makes it interesting to see how people look at certain topics compared to others (old/young, europe/na, west/east).
:P Never left just didn't feel like replying for a while!
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3. Rapid, heated discussion.
Do I win a mouse for my answer??
CF is all about the journals in my opinion. I do not really care about the forums, games or main news.

+ lots of random journals about basically everything
+ comment structure (minimal info with nick + flag; no bullshit giant signatures or smileys; reply function; hide tags)
+ simple side structure, no unnecessary animations in flash
- search function is rubbish
- lots of small things that can be improved and partially had been improved before the crash (the jump to new posts function was nice and the drawing of journal / news / forum titles in tabs); what I would like to see is a better scaling of the page to higher resolutions
ET community, of course.
But there were less retards (or at least they wouldn't post here) before :(
I used to read a lot of journals talking about interesting subjects ... now we have food, random pics and crossie's lifes. awesome.
I just like the website layout.
4chan for Id game players
Make a thing for only posting funny movies , pictures , spam useless journals ,
party all day!
sure there r some retarded guys but if i read the comments of some 15 year old kids for example on readmore.de i am glad to have another site where r also nice and friendly people and useful stuff to read tbh.
i still think its a website.
cf is wnb 4chan
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Z like Zoo

One word, "crossfire". Full of dirty, smelly rodents and crazy apes!
a walking zombie of a what it used to be a nice page
cf is nothing like 4chan, every other thread on /b/ would earn a ban on here.
crossfire = ET community, like a few people stated before

this has always been the one and only site for ET players besides a few national sites and has been keeping the scene alive with the crossfire LAN events and many other cups/events

the content of this site always gets more interesting and better when something is happening in the scene, atleast I always have enjoyed all the pre-LAN/EC previews with speculation and interviews along with post-LAN journals with great stories and pictures for example. when nothing happens the quality of content goes down a lot and you'll have hard time picking up a few interesting journals now and then from the unstoppable flood of new journals. if you are lucky you might spot an interesting interview or article outside the events, but that's kinda rare. movie section is always active and you can pretty regurarly spot a movie by some known player which can get you interested enough to watch it
great place to spend time
with all this pubichairless people, nerdy jokes and lame shit + stupid cencoring of everything even close to funny? not even near
A versatile and active community
crossfire is about retards flaming other retards
Simply unique.
Good
- Layout
- Huge Community (Even though retards/cheaters are welcome here too)
- Entertainment / 4chan-style

Bad
- Admins acting too strict
- Censorship (Fact is that this IS mainly an ET community, no matter what other games you support aswell)
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