1 mil Xbox users BANNED

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33866696/ns/technology_and_science-games/

Microsoft bans up to 1 million Xbox Live users

All consumers should know that piracy is illegal and that modifying their Xbox 360 console violates the Xbox Live terms of use, will void their warranty and result in a ban from Xbox Live

What do u think? Is MS wrong by doing this (since modding the console to fit your own harddisk is also popular instead of cheating), or should all these console nerds just buy a new console? :DDD
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nothing but fair
hope mine doesnt get banned though ^^
my friend got banned from that shit :D ... sad slovak pussy needs to buy a new xbox now :D
it was all part of the plan, to ban the people who modified their xbox!!
Maybe people realise what a fucked up business xbox live is.

Paying for online play without any real benefits except you know, playing online, is just wrong.
it works out about 11p (£) a day and for something you're most likely to enjoy playing who cares
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My problem is you don't get anything for your money. You only pay for the privilege to play online. It would be different if there were any real benefits.
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damn console fanboys will think differently now, after they laughed at pc gamers being left in the cold by dev studios!
buy a new hdd?..
what do you mean by void their warranty?
if its what i think it is, then atlist this shouldnt be touched !
Voiding their warranty, as in Microsoft won't fix your RRoD anymore. At least not for free.
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another proof for Sony > Microfail

gonna order CoD MW2, PES10 & Fight Night Round 4 today ... and i´ll play it online with a modified PS3 - for FREE! :P
so sony are better than microsoft because microsoft ban people for breaking the rules? thats a fucking retarded argument
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no, because MS is a money-hungry firm who asks money for just about everything
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aint like sony arent money hungry is it?
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they are also, but they don't ask money to play a game online which isn't even theirs
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its not exactly expensive is it, if you want to use a service which they're providing why shouldnt they charge you for it?
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A service? LOL?
All they do is use an internet connection (which you already pay for).

You are so naive.
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gonna play devils advocate (i don't agree with xbox live) but arguably the social/community features are a service

and yes stuff like steam does it for free (i don't agree with steam either), although i can't record a voice message for my offline friend and have them receive it when they next log in
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You might have a point but it's still a step back in evolution of gaming!
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The one thing I don't understand is how these people get banned in the first place.

Not too sure on the specifics of X360 circuitry but surely anyone with a brain would disable the modchip when using xbox live?
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Maybe the modchip is meant for xbox live also? Dno tbh :/
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If you flash your drive its supposed to be 'safe' yet i know people who have gone through a lot of xbox's due to issues from hardware components, and now this.
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are you shitting me?
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well currently my xbox is broken and im too lazy to get it fixed so i have a ps3 on my desk

your argument is irrelevant, please try again.
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you will pay money for play online at PS3 in 2010 year, already announced by Sony.
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it's all the same miserable shit these days -_-
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u dont get what i wanted to say, but start flaming like a lil boy...speaks for itself
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no, no it doesnt
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QuoteYou are so naive
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yea im naive cause i think xbox live is a service, soz

Quote by MICROSHAFTThis contract covers your use of the Xbox LIVE and Games for Windows LIVE interactive services, and governsany other related services for which you choose to sign up (for example, specific game subscriptions), content, and other media (for example, items downloaded from Xbox LIVE Marketplace or Games for Windows LIVE Marketplaceand their successors)), software, machines, support, papers, updates, or upgrades. We refer to all of these as the "Service" and, except where context requires otherwise and even if not expressly referenced in the applicable section, “Service” includes any “Other Items” (defined in Section 8(a)) that you may have obtained access to through or in relation to other aspects of the Service. To avoid any confusion, when you register to use the Service, you are registering for both the Xbox LIVE service sand the Games for Windows LIVE services.


yes i did just google xbox live service and highlight every service in the text

yes i realise this is more to do with krosan's point than yours, but still related
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i wouldn't say this is breaking the rules

you own the hardware. do whatever the fuck you want to it. modded console != piracy.
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do whatever the fuck you want with it and dont play on xbox live by all means but dont mod your shit play on xbox live then complain when you get banned for it
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i can and would do that and wouldn't get banned because i'm not an idiot
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"with a modified PS3"

show me your "modified" PS3, because for the first time I hear such a bullshit like you wrote.
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argh, another kiddie-flame???
i got linux on my PS3 - would u say it´s a modified PS3??? stfu plz

internet...an anonymous area without behaviour & education - right???
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calling everyone a kiddie is barely respectful is it?
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Sony allows you to LEGALLY install on the PS3 operating systems such as Linux, so if it is LEGAL then why you write about modified PS3?. If you want to write about something, you must have the knowledge, and in this case you do not have it "kiddie".
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bla bla bla
modified means it´s not original like it´s being produced by Sony
is my or your english so bad?
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Congratulations, you're an idiot.
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lol, what a great argument, well done!
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what's new about this? they always banned people on xbox live who were modifying firmware on the drive or just cracking the device. who needs xbox live anyway.
if you wanna mod shit buy a pc, if you wanna plug and play by a console..its their own fault
Care don't play illegal
Playstation > XBox :)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/hi/technology/newsid_10000000/newsid_10002900/10002915.stm

Pretty funny that this guy's justification for piracy is that "some parents can't afford to buy all of the new releases for their kids" yet he's a 25 y/o childless nolifer who's crying 'cus he can't spend 9 hours a day playing CoD.
what a retard :D:D:D
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bibuy zerender
thought exactly the same when i first read that news :D
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still not banned
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still not banned
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in my opinion microsoft is money eating dicksucker. everything you buy from them, you have to buy even more their products that you can be happy with the product you just bought. (xbox => xbox live time etc) only good thing on microsoft is xbox controller.

i got myself banned when i went to try cod4 with the game beta-tester-crew :DDD
Stop buying consoles, move to PC again so the game developers can focus at pc games again :DDDDDD
console is more fun playing with friends in the same room,not online,dunno...
seriously microsoft
what a shame from u to expect getting money for the games u design/produce
root in hell for not working for free !!
any xbox which has a rrod microsoft will replace even if its out of warranty as far as i know and lets be honest, thats why 99% of them break
zerender will be next.
still not banned
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just wait till 17 of november :P
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Hey Krosan, just found this thread, i thought no one was covering the article, good to see you posted it.
Bud, i am confused as to why this isn't in the "NEWS" section of the site, since its only 24hrs since the news broke out. Perhaps some tweaking in the site's interface to cater for "Alternative Breaking Gaming News" , just raising the flag and see who salutes it. In any case, i simply found this thread by chance rather than directed to it.

Back to topic:

Although some may feel this is a harsh or non profit move, but in all respect this is one the most positive moves to date that a giant has done in order to keep the scene and consumers happy that there 300+ euro console machine is not going down the drain by some random morons who prefer to hack and cheat so as their alter ego can be satisfied. I can see this spreading across all platforms in the not too distant future.

This move has my Vote :-)
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I also say no to cheaters, but most of those banned users are people who played pirated versions of games or who modded the console to attach their own harddrive to it.
It's always a move for more profit for these big companies, never to satisfy the customer (unless it would give them more profit)
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I'll be the last motherfucker breathing
I agree with you here, but think about how many ps2 consoles were chipped and allowed to play online with or without the pirated games. You can see how many millions the company lost. Then you have the gamers who complain about haxors and tweaked gamers on ps or xbox. This strict prison like rule is and i guess would deter anyone from trying to tweak their console.

Then again it just may be using a2048-bit encryption, which at this time of posting only a 1 or 2 system networks are able to crack the encryption and that alone would take some 30 billion years of number crunching. So in reality, encrypting future consoles is the only way these systems remain as intended. Lets not forget, that these Game Publishing Companies live of the consumer's ability to purchase and follow a particular game throughout the years of development. In reality, you are paying someone else for him to entertain you, similar to going to a live concert or what ever turns anyone on.
i cant care less about console gamers (hi zerender) they should just get a fkn pc!!

and ms is right to do it because they want to sell their stuff and they arent a nonprofitorganization!
consoles are consoles and there shouldnt even be internet game possibility. modifying consoles is the way to save so money and test some games if those are good or not. if its good I'll order the game anyway. And maaaany times I pre-order some new games from US and then I download it from internet right away when it comes to some torrent sites - burn it to a DVD and play it through before the real copy even arrives to me
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