CiC afterthoughts
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8 Mar 2010, 21:53
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Hi guys,
Once again CiC turned out to be a great lan, some delays and a power outage during the finals, but considering the size of the lan and how many pc that needed to be hauled in, it was a great event.
I have a habit of whining so i'll start off straight away :D
I've been wondering about the format CiC uses. In CoD you had buck loads of teams playing but most of them were all about the same high skill. All games are hard games for them, theres no EC teams owning oc division 3 teams. In ET however the range of skill was so big the seedings were like a roadmap where you pretty much knew which teams would go trough etc.
I've been wondering if there couldn't be two leagues for ET. For example, you could have a top league with about 4 - 6 - 8 teams who have to go trough a groupphase where they all have to play each other. After that you got playoffs. Now why would you want this?
- better for ETTV, nobody wants to see rockit own some opencup team.
- better for the teams playing. Seed were so nice the first games didnt really matter as the results were usually very predictable.No dignitas kicking out YYT in the looser bracket, etc
- better for the organisation. For example you set up 6 teams in the morning and have them play all their groupgames at once. After the setup I think you could finish each round in about 1h15 mins. You'd have an initial setup time, but after that all the games can go on smoothly.
-dignitas cant fuck over YYT
Next to that I just have a couple of remarks. The polish guys got a forfeit map because they were too late, but the same didnt apply to dignitas.
And as usual, dignitas partied hard the first days and played really crap so they ended up in the looser bracket. Its really up to them to do this, its kind of a tradition for them. In the end however it results in teams like YYT to get out of the tournament too soon. First YYT met rockit, next they met the winner of the tournament in the looser bracket.
I think thats about it :p Gratz to team Night for winning CiC7. Snoop, you were totally raging. Meez, stop breaking those mirrros or whatever you did. Still you played some really really great games. Matthias delivered as usual :p
cu next time
Once again CiC turned out to be a great lan, some delays and a power outage during the finals, but considering the size of the lan and how many pc that needed to be hauled in, it was a great event.
I have a habit of whining so i'll start off straight away :D
I've been wondering about the format CiC uses. In CoD you had buck loads of teams playing but most of them were all about the same high skill. All games are hard games for them, theres no EC teams owning oc division 3 teams. In ET however the range of skill was so big the seedings were like a roadmap where you pretty much knew which teams would go trough etc.
I've been wondering if there couldn't be two leagues for ET. For example, you could have a top league with about 4 - 6 - 8 teams who have to go trough a groupphase where they all have to play each other. After that you got playoffs. Now why would you want this?
- better for ETTV, nobody wants to see rockit own some opencup team.
- better for the teams playing. Seed were so nice the first games didnt really matter as the results were usually very predictable.No dignitas kicking out YYT in the looser bracket, etc
- better for the organisation. For example you set up 6 teams in the morning and have them play all their groupgames at once. After the setup I think you could finish each round in about 1h15 mins. You'd have an initial setup time, but after that all the games can go on smoothly.
-dignitas cant fuck over YYT
Next to that I just have a couple of remarks. The polish guys got a forfeit map because they were too late, but the same didnt apply to dignitas.
And as usual, dignitas partied hard the first days and played really crap so they ended up in the looser bracket. Its really up to them to do this, its kind of a tradition for them. In the end however it results in teams like YYT to get out of the tournament too soon. First YYT met rockit, next they met the winner of the tournament in the looser bracket.
I think thats about it :p Gratz to team Night for winning CiC7. Snoop, you were totally raging. Meez, stop breaking those mirrros or whatever you did. Still you played some really really great games. Matthias delivered as usual :p
cu next time
was nice to talk with you on cc6 & cic7 :)
Not the first, not the last time retarded anti-polaks are making such decisions.
some people just want to play against top teams while they at lan.
Even better would be to have some spare PC's but I suppose that isn't an option ;)
I don't really get why there wasn't anyone writing updates all the time, I mean, I played some matches but had lots of time between and after games, could have been writing lots of things on those moments. I understand that admins are too busy with technical and organisational issues but would have been nice to give someone a laptop and let them give some updates on crossfire.nu, I wouldn't mind spending some time on that :)
I liked your team btw, Ronner shouting YEAH when he got killed and getting beer during fullspawns.
That's the spirit!
Was good fun, idd! :-D
that's why good teams are granted privileges other teams aren't - that's a fact for what i can say. a defloss for dignitas would result in a total outrage (communitywise), players might start whining and the dignitas managers would be upset (-> kick their team / don't send their team to cdc anymore).
nonetheless it's ridiculous how some lower teams are being treated. hey, they are the "cash cow" after all! why not allow them to set everything up aswell? (being 1 hour+ late is a whole different kattle of fish though).
at least the results of the seeding cup was taken into consideration this time. of course, there have been lots of "boring" games, but if you divide all teams into two divisions you'd probably end up with teams like perception playing against dignitas while team al1 and co. _might_ have been classified as a 2nd div team. considering the results that'd be bs, wouldn't it?
Ramirez, get to work!
Very good point, + fuckin 1.
but i do have to agree on the organizing stuff.
see you next lan m8 :)
computertime
CoD4 screamers
eiM's team took a map from Rockit on the LAN, if it hadnt been for the group stages this could never have happened. It might not be a victory but I know that eiM has already told everyone he knows :P Just saying that the oppourtunity is one worth having.
Additionally we then run a consolation tournament so teams from the lower half of the groups play eachother anyway.
The other thing to consider is that if everyone plays their matches straight away, and loses all of them on Friday morning then they go home and dont really experience the LAN. Its bad for us as an event and the teams arent gonna have as much fun, so we try to avoid that where possible.
The Polish guys were supposed to be at the venue for 8/8.30 and still didnt have 5 players by 9.45 so they lost a map. Dignitas were different as they were there, but Dignitas did take the piss you are right and you are not the first player to say we should do something about it, we fined them a map back at CPC1. The reality is though, we would get a shit load of complaints of favouritism or general whine no matter what we did, the community always favours the top players over admins. One idea I've had is to create some kind of points system, where each point is worth X euro out of the prize, considering it is only the top teams that we have a problem with there it would have an effect. The lower teams just want to setup and play, delays with them are usually caused there by hardware errors.
The general after feeling of all CC events is that we need more PC's and more admins regardless of however large we go or dont go.