hi mental and stray

by ENSJQM • 30 Mar 2010, 16:01 • Journals

nice that you still play with kutsch or whatever he is called now. ~60hs in one round etc.

previously busted here: http://www.crossfire.nu/?x=forum&mode=item&id=30562

its funny that you still bothered to search for a new match under different alias when we first quit after 2mins of "molli"'s unhumanized aimbot raging on delivery (ofcourse).

mental and stray, you are the future of ET.

needless to say these boys still managed to lose the war :)

molli 45 headshots in less than 10 minutes. 32% hs accucary with thompson.
image: molli

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4 [randomly the best rifle :P] [32F301AA8AD949A2327CFBC5B4DCB8C7F7C9420D] // mental
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18:17 < ENSJUM> Killerboy can you ban mental?
18:17 < Killerboy> telling sol
18:17 < Killerboy> Status: IBANNED
18:17 < Killerboy> Viewing: IViewing a journal
18:17 < Killerboy> Warning Level: I0 / 100
18:17 < Killerboy> np
18:17 < Killerboy> sol best admin m8 :)
18:17 < ENSJUM> :)
18:18 < ENSJUM> how long ban?
18:18 < Sample> :P nice
18:18 < Killerboy> 3 months
18:18 < Killerboy> i guess

---

18:20 < Killerboy> [17:19:07] [mental] Killerboy
18:20 < Killerboy> [17:19:08] [mental] Killerboy
18:20 < Killerboy> [17:19:08] [mental] Killerboy
18:20 < Killerboy> [17:19:09] [mental] Killerboy
18:20 < Killerboy> [17:19:09] [mental] Killerboy
18:20 < Killerboy> [17:19:09] [mental] Killerboy
18:20 < Killerboy> [17:19:10] [mental] Killerboy
18:20 < Killerboy> [17:19:12] [mental] Killerboy
18:20 < Killerboy> [17:19:14] [mental] DUDE
18:20 < Killerboy> [17:19:16] [Killerboy] what the fuck do you want
18:20 < Killerboy> [17:19:19] [mental] dude
18:20 < Killerboy> [17:19:25] [mental] i just played that random war with him
18:20 < Killerboy> [17:19:27] [mental] it was a random war
18:20 < Killerboy> [17:19:29] [mental] for fuck sake
18:20 < Killerboy> [17:19:35] [Killerboy] be right back phone
18:20 < Killerboy> [17:19:41] [mental] are you serious?
18:20 < mamaa> Killerboy why talking with him
18:20 < Killerboy> [17:19:41] [mental] omfg
18:20 < mamaa> just ban'

next time think twice before ruining my important afternoon mixes :)

170

whine somewhere else
thanks

supporting cheaters?

Parent

na, I just don't like whiners

Parent

guess why ;)

Parent

It's funny they suck hard x).

max payne <3

It was me :))))))

Parent

hehe :P

Parent

jeje blame us rofl

and i played rifle :D

who else should i blame? you knew he was cheating and still continued playing with him + flaming us in main chat.

Parent

you should at least delete my name out of that shit, i told him to turn it off, already wanted to quit and tbh didn't wanted to play thats why i was rifle

Parent

oh yes, everytime i knowingly play with a cheater i go rifle too :P:P:PPPPP

Parent

aren't you a ex cheater ? lol

Parent

we already told he was cheating in that first 'match' we took against you (delivery). after we left because that guy didnt even bother hiding his cheats you all changed nicks and took new war against us.

but yeah its nice that you at least told him to turn it off :)

Parent

well Blendi messaged me, I was actually looking with the name mental, and tbh dont know why you cry if you won the match and why you include my name into this topic, i didn't even flame you

Parent

so its okay to play with a cheater like that as long as you are losing? solid logic there.

Parent

no its not okay rofl

Parent

why did you play 2 games with him when you knew he was cheating?

Parent

BURRRRRRNNNN!

Parent

its blindi you dick cunt ass homo gay bitch

Parent

Hahaha
"told him to turn it off" nice one ye!

Parent

you should at least delete my name out of that shit, i told him to turn it off

XDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

trash get out

Parent

what do you even expect of him, mr sami mamutti :<

Parent

who else should he blame? you knew he was cheating and still continued playing with him + flaming them in main chat.

Parent

Blame the cheater?

Im not sure about the whole situation and Im not sure whether he was very much aware of the fact that he was cheating. Also, playing with a cheater does not make you love him/her.

I do hate cheaterlovers yes. Just the plain fact that you guys are drawing quick conlusions here makes me sad.

sol is a great admin. He does not go around acting like normal member. He stands above the crowd, above the useless discussion. He is not trying to defend his judgement, he just takes it for granted. You should be more like him I think.

Remember folks, when a decision has been made dont go flaming about it afterwards, just accept it and go on! Might you disagree, dont discuss it in public topics making it a flame war.

Parent

read some comments here. he knew he was cheating + killerboy made a bust topic about him earlier. mental didnt seem to understand he cant play with a cheater

Parent

Ok, its clear to me now. Still, I think the way you guys deal with these facts are not so professional. Ofcourse this os not asked from you but it would be hella' nice.

Killerboy, have you talked to Mental after he asked for a conversation or did you not come back after the 'phone'?

Parent

WHAT IS YOUR PROBLEM

Parent

none sir.

Parent

dude he cheated before in the baserace match we played last sunday: http://www.gamestv.org/event/17516-baserace-et-vs-baserace-winners/?id=17516

boNg admitted he cheated and told me to cancel the match, and meNtal went insane saying boNg is a retard and says lots of stuff, he didn't want to accept the fact he plays with a cheater.

The next day: http://www.crossfire.nu/?x=forum&mode=item&id=30562
Huge shock that he got banned, and meNtal came on IRC and told me wants to be friends again (the fuck?)

today he is searching for wars and playing with this banned guy again, they start playing vs KRP, and KRP told them this guy is cheating and all meNtal does is say how they are rolling them.

[16:10:46] [Sample] delivery :P
[16:10:53] [Sample] 3 hs all the time
[16:11:10] [Sample] had to quit after 3 mins cause he was too obvious
[16:11:16] [Killerboy] lol
[16:32:19] [Sample] mental and co playing with a cheater

so KRP start searching another war, and surprise surprise, meNtal askes them for a war again, with the same players.

Now meNtal is obviously a 12 year old kid with personality disorders or schyzophrenic kid...

first he says he didn't play:

[16:40:51] [Blindi-] (17:32:39) (Blindi-) pathetic of you.
[16:40:52] [Blindi-] (17:33:29) (mental) ?
[16:40:54] [Blindi-] (17:33:42) (mental) i didnt play the last war

30 seconds later

[16:41:10] [Blindi-] (17:38:56) (mental) so why u cry ?
[16:41:12] [Blindi-] (17:39:05) (mental) like i said he should turn it off
[16:41:14] [Blindi-] (17:39:08) (mental) blame stray

2 minutes later on crossfire:

meNtal_ on 30/03/10, 16:44:56 PM | Reply
why the hell you include me?

Killerboy on 30/03/10, 16:45:17 Del | Edit | Reply
cos you play with him

meNtal_ on 30/03/10, 16:45:42 PM | Reply
in a random 5on5 lol

meNtal_ on 30/03/10, 17:06:17 PM | Reply

you should at least delete my name out of that shit, i told him to turn it off, already wanted to quit and tbh didn't wanted to play thats why i was rifle

he gets banned, spraying retardedness allover again...

[17:24:47] [soool] [16:26:39] [soool] you played with a cheater
[17:24:49] [soool] [16:26:42] [soool] so you're banned
[17:24:51] [soool] [16:26:44] [soool] simple
[17:24:53] [soool] [16:26:46] [mental] LIKE I KNEW HE CHEATED

Parent

dont think anyone can blame this decision after reading those evidences
nice gathering them together

Parent

"and tbh didn't wanted to play thats why i was rifle "

:D

Parent

You again show you ignorant behaviour. You have not read anything of what I said. Just just misstook it as flame and flamed back. With right evidence, yes, but this shit

QuoteNow meNtal is obviously a 12 year old kid with personality disorders or schyzophrenic kid...

just does not fit an admin.

Job well done on gathering that information right there, but its not what I asked for. I completely agree with you and I admire your abilities on doing this stuff. I just dont like the way you deal with the crowd.

Now, read my previous comment and this one together. Im not attacking you in anyway.
Putting the fact that youre still defending yourself aside, you did a good job. I just whish you were as much of an admin as sol is being at this time.

Parent

i just find it stupid that he wastes my times by inventing lies by saying he didn't play, and then he played and can't decide himself what he did, just inventing stories aslong as he tries to get unbanned. and i have seen sol and other admins call other people inbred, spastic etc and i never saw the problem, cheaters deserve no respect and internet talk = serious business

Parent

admins should be serious enough to not get lost in the internet.

Parent

he got busted after that baserace match and you still play with him...
who else should he blame? you knew he was cheating and still continued playing with him + flaming them in main chat

Parent

Consult Joonas[FIN].

http://www.crossfire.nu/?x=user&mode=view&id=31837

nee nee nee

I do? Just funny that you talk about cheaters :P

so because I've served a cb ban i should suddenly respect and tolerate cheaterlovers?
i don't consider the people that play with me cheaterlovers so don't even go there...

and unlike you, i don't knowingly play with cheaters.

Parent

cheater lover rofl dude, i've never cheated, i've never been busted or banned any where so dont take that word into your mouth

Parent

i never called you a cheater...

your brain is seriously messed up, filled with whore logic

Parent

LOL U R PAKI IS NOT COOL HAHAHA /PWNT I AM CRAZY

Parent

PHOTOSYNTHESIS.

Parent

i haven't played a single game with him since he got busted, also he didn't run a bot but an external crosshair.

Parent

rofl was joking cunt :(

Parent

wasnt you on adawolfs userbaselist? dunt whine

ye pussy cheater lovers hahaha

:O)

Parent

how gay

Parent

thats taking from WOW

Parent

slardar from dota, I oldschool + special becous I play dota :PPP

Parent

slardar.jpg

too ez ;/

Parent

Slardar kicks ass, I luv him! But Huskar remains my fav :P

Parent

they are nerds

mental and stray with cheaters? can't be...

wp ensamm8 :)))

hi friend :)

und trotzdem sind deine eltern kleine geschwister du dreckiger cheater ey geh deine geschwister ficken junge

EDIT:danke für den cf bann(oder was auch immer)

haha mama

He's banned now. Please report this to admins in the future!

banned for what? not that i disagree but can you be banned for knowingly play with cheaters?

just curious

Parent

yes, knowingly playing with cheaters -> ban

Parent

yep

Parent

its a rule already existing for quite a time now
if i remember right it started right after the fusengate
and its good as it is

Parent

http://www.crossfire.nu/?x=journal&mode=item&id=96850#comment2116974

Parent

Yeah, for 3 months.

Parent

Why don't you ban the cheater himself as well? I don't know him, but it seems obvious to me that it's TrollRoller.

Parent

He is banned now, too!

Parent

Good job. :)

Parent

http://www.crossfire.nu/?x=journal&mode=item&id=96850#comment2116926

Ban those, too? :) Would have an huge impact on the retarded German CF community.

Parent

Why i only specced ? :S

Parent

Whole 'mental' team banned ? Or just those two ?

Parent

All five.

Parent

Parent

Good job. I like how you always support your own ideas and decision rather than flaming with the crowd!

Parent

best admin...... wait for it... EVER

Parent

This is one thing i hate about ET... people keep playing with busted cheaters who still hack, new teams with cheaters rise up again and again every OC season, and so on...

and why did just mental get banned and not stray?

edit: who are the other guys of that mix? do they also get a ban?
yawn says it is Germany

PRED1 and pHAZOR

lol i only specced ?

Parent

ah k i m sorry
didnt want to accuse you when you re innocent
didnt believe you would knowingly play with a cheater anyways

Parent

np np :)

Parent

thx ensam no one miss him

next time think twice before ruining their important afternoon mixes :)

so just being curious, mental and stray going to be banned @ CB?

no, it wasn't a cb war.

Parent

ah oke, thought that doesnt matter but oke

Parent

thats the flaw in your plan sir.

i utterly agree that cheaterlovers should get banned... but if were going to be 'tough on cheaters' need to unite the rules.

play with a cheater = ban +cb ban+esl ban+other cups as cb and esl bans arent allowed in most random cups.

getting busted should also be the same, regardless.

Parent

we don't ban for "playing with cheaters" on irc wars, cos nobody will admit they knew it (unless he is really retarded), we cannot ban somebody for "admitting he cheats" either so we can't ban somebody for "admitting he played with a cheater" cos it is not enough proof for CB (nor ESL)

Parent

meh, i understand that... but for this example, when it was brought to your attention you should have asked mental for logs if he had said hes a 'ET Merc avi' and then at least thats some proof that he doesnt know the guy...

but unfortunately.. there is far too many loopholes here for cheaters and cheaterlovers to still be playing in CB ESL.

btw, turn your attention to rockstArr, most obvious cheater since gnajda... ive said it for 3 years that he cheats and now hes playing EC qualis :DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

as you know, h3lix and wakizashis gut-busts never fail.

Parent

waki fails mate :P even called me a cheater

Parent

1. he was trolling with you.

2. nice fucking late reply.

3. I went the game on saturday - MILLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

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Parent

looks awsome :-D expected more uniforms though.

Parent

waited at the train station for 2 hours till all the swindon fans were gone. then walked through a tunnel of police officers either side leading to the train doors :D

Parent

Haha I use Palehook every time I play. I am sorry. I admit!

Parent

i get your point. what i don't get is, that it's coming from you. if i'm not mistaken it was you who even played in offis with zino and soprano (obviously hacking in that game) and whined about a forfeit loss afterwards cos it's "unfair" :XD

Parent

yeah your correct, and i understand what your saying... that was nearly 2 years ago.

+ i used to say i was med+ back then... so i selfowned myself into the community.

Parent

good to see that you changed then.

Parent

well i obviously have... i was low+ back then and got carried by cheaters who i didnt know was cheaters until that offi vs atoon. :<

Parent

Quoteyou should at least delete my name out of that shit, i told him to turn it off, already wanted to quit and tbh didn't wanted to play thats why i was rifle

Priceless :D You asked him to turn it off, didn´tr leave or quit. And now here whining and wondering why you are the bad guy.

liked the kb "be right back phone" part.

heul doch

haha ihr seid ja kacke ...:D

why do you flame hre mental? if you play with cheaters you get banned also. and you knew that.

Good decision. Dont play with cheaters :)

once played vs alexl and he had 42.5 acc and almost 70 hs in one round :))))))

He's a special case.

Parent

train hard, go pro

Parent

n1 ensam :)

haha seriously mental didnt expect you to be that dumb0

gj ensam and company

That's exactly how it should be done with everybody who's knowingly playing with a cheater.

Good job.

32 hs acc isnt special.

you do 40%?

Parent

sometimes yeh ,

Parent

me too:DD... in cyber games vs noobs on delivery:/

Parent

nee 3o3 high he

Parent

:< cheater!

Parent

you seem to be a lot of better than players in previous years. Telenet statistic showed a while back that first place was hold by a player who had 25% hs acc

mAus, butchji, Lepari, revers all had like 16%

40% seems to be pretty damn awesome.

Parent

well i think in 3o3s , you would be bad if you cant shoot higher then 25 hs acc , i think i shoot mostly arround 30% hs acc.

Parent

do you have some random samples etpro/stats like from some fullhold supply round?

Parent

yeh think so.

Parent

http://img695.imageshack.us/img695/8852/10k.png

haha 1 mom upload 1 soon.

Parent

http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/6118/1min.png
http://img402.imageshack.us/i/40hs.png/

ive got to say only watched 1 demo , wich i remember played well.

Parent

funny , i was number 16 in that list with 22 ;-D

Parent

E-DRAMA

/popcorn

not that i like mental, but isn't it a bit hypocritical banning him while >75% of all EC teams are playing with (ex-)cheaters? just being curious.

(ex-)cheaters. He played with a player who was cheating at the moment and as soon as opponent left they changed their nicks to pick same opponent again. He even said that he told the cheater to turn it off but it didnt stop him continue playing with him even when he didnt turn if off. Thats how i see it from comments.

Parent

so, who can say for sure whether he was cheating? no one (stats don't suffice). can you say for sure whether excheaters like motif, shaky, sup3r + name 200 other busted ec players are not cheating right now?

seriously, some years ago pretty much every legit player claimed that a zero tolerance strategy (longer bans, exclusion from big tournaments) was the only way to get / keep the game clean to a certain extend. so, if the admins want to make an example of how (ex-)cheaters are supposed to be treated then they should pull this through rigorously.

i mean, most guys who are playing in BF have been banned from cc6 (?) and are now an EC top seed team? this is just stupid. either ban them all + the guys playing with them or just keep it as it is.

Parent

read journal again. killerboy made a bust topic yesterday http://www.crossfire.nu/?x=forum&mode=item&id=30562 and they still keep playing with him

Parent

[18:19:11] [+kutsch] need 10on10 baserace for tonight /q

even now :P

Parent

another 9 players to get banned :P

Parent

don't get me wrong - IMO it's the right decision to ban mental and his mates.

Parent

ye, was just a reply to "are you sure he cheated"

Parent

true, there was not proof but common logic should be applied. 1. he was busted just few days ago 2. he played statwise awesome 32 hs acc. Most skilled guys probably can hit 25%, maybe 30% in a single round but usually lower than 20%. 3. he raged the players who's been a top of scene for over a year. Eventhough i dont like those KRP (excheaters) its them who can tell if someone is hacking even without judging stats at all. 4. mental admited it.

and its just a crossfire ban, nothing else, he can still play leagues and wars, no harm done there. Surely CF will apply their rules to any of situations proven like that.

Parent

+1 fully agree

Parent

ble, thought it was CB ban, nvm then, nobody cares about cf bans i guess.

Parent

so you wanna ban >75% of the community?
i personally don't care about someone who served his ban and is most likely clean these days. i do care about someone like kutsch though, who's obviously hacking 'right now' (which even a blind person would notice) and about those who still keep playing with him 'at this certain point'.

Parent

! :-*

Parent

playing with an excheater which has served a ban is not the same as knowingly playing with a guy which is currently cheating...
i know the case aint perfectly clear but i guess the judgement was correct

Parent

fu viech, fu

Parent

komm 3on3 ins sona ts

Parent

noes, ich geh schlafen! viel zu tunz morgen!

Parent

so lets ban the players who played with senti when he was cheating

They're talkin' about now, not the situation 2-3 years ago.

Parent

ye but why are they starting to ban now? cuz an ec team is whining?

Parent

They already did so in the past ;o

Parent

first come on any lan fucking fintard

...

Parent

GTFO JHAHAHAHA !

never mess with fin EC pwners :D

nice esnam :)

gj ensam, saving et!

Stray EC skilled

it's a joke but SHHHH.

Parent

so mental is now know as a retarded cheater lover instead of a nerd:o?

no, this just adds up.
which makes him a retarded cheater loving FOREIGN (see what i did here?) nerd

Parent

:XDDDD

Parent

u are a foreigner aswell

Parent

I can already see him as new Kamz/Hype/whatever. As his career proceeds, no-one wants to take him into their team because of his reputation and he has to stick to teams he makes himself.

Parent

nigger :P

i bet they are fucking bad offline

:XD

Parent

bb faggot

booooo only blabla bla

ah and blabla

this retarded kid keeps being humiliated again and again.

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