Mick banned from Clanbase
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10 Jun 2008, 09:00
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Fnatic report that Dignitas hotshot Mick has been banned from Clanbase for repetitive abusive behaviour. Dignitas had already been removed the tournament after one player had the wrong GUID in their match and now salt has been rubbed into the wound.
However the fnatic article raises some interesting points about the ruling and the objectivity behind it. The admin who made the ban is also a manager of the team they were playing against when this happened (h2k) and h2k were also in violation of Clanbase rules themself by not taking demos from the match which is a forfeitable offence.
The post ends stating the Dignitas and MeetYourMakers will join fnatic in boycotting Clanbase's premier competition.
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However the fnatic article raises some interesting points about the ruling and the objectivity behind it. The admin who made the ban is also a manager of the team they were playing against when this happened (h2k) and h2k were also in violation of Clanbase rules themself by not taking demos from the match which is a forfeitable offence.
The post ends stating the Dignitas and MeetYourMakers will join fnatic in boycotting Clanbase's premier competition.
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but anyway : squall, lettu, iron, lepari and torspo were playing in the same team(vae).. They failed but CB didn't mind...
edit : i hope i'm right this time >_<
we asked admins if we can play with more than 3 vae guys and he said its ok
we couldnt play with more than 3 j52 guys however
I dont think ClanBase will win against dignitas, tbh
Mick and Dignitas are hugely respected in the community and should be treated as such. They've done a lot for the scene. It's a ridiculous decision imo, and one that's clearly a bit biased.
Nice one :D
However I do think that it states in the rules, that ones you have started the game, you cannot make a match conflict based upon guids, bad server etc. Prove me wrong please.
Next, when the digimons wanted the demos from H2K, and they could not deliver. This is also a reason for a forfeit match, but this was somehow disregarded by CB?
I can see why Mick is frustrated.
it should, but it doesn't
Ohhh that you cannot make a complaint after you have started the match?
Look at the ET-scene (read ovr & co) xD Flame all-around & nobody really gives a fuck (except hatin')....
Not true. After Dignitas got the default loss against H2k in Eurocup WB Final due to a wrong GUID, even tho it has been proven by IP check that it was infact SKO playing on his laptop, Dignitas decided to leave all CB cups, we did not get removed.
http://www.team-dignitas.org/index.php?id=6612&page=2
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dignitas should not be treated differently just because they are better than other clans, the rule applies for everyone
so, you can see 2 things which went wrong
But it's true, if he had his guid up to date this news woud not exist, nor would the team ignore next ec (if I got it right, stopped ready pretty much after the guid thing)
Nonetheless the CB site is still one the most user-friendly of all gamingleagues so untill something better comes up ...
their site is terrible obviously, and the ruling that a teamcaptain owns a spot in the league after qualifying and not the team that qualified is just ridiculous.
risk is relative, bullshit isn't.
http://www.fnatic.com/scenenews/1294/Dignitas-Mick-banned-from-ClanBase
:DDDDD
1. pretty stupid behaviour imo if dont inform ur opponents/admins before -> epic fail by Sko
2. the CB-admin is player/manager of the opponents? Hello?!? How stupid do i have to be to accept that? They MUST have know that days before and had the chance to NOT accept that... -> epic fail by team
3. thats more weak than the prob before... -> epic fail by dignitas...why supporting (by playing it) a organisation i cannot trust? It also shows me again how trustable contracts etc r these days.
-> my conclusion: pretty unprofessional behaviour after Sko´s personal mistake... no wonder chandler has reviewed it the same way again...so this time they r bad loosers...nothin more in this esports-drama!
It's not just the decision that pisses people off, it's the fact that 5minutes after granting his own COD4 team a forfeit win he was gloating about it on the H2k website in front of everyone.
If that procedure wasn't followed then something is seriously wrong, if it was then it just makes me pity dignitas for making fools of themselves.
One of the main issues sticking out here is one I have never understodd. Admins having associations with teams allowed to make decisions on their matches - you only have to look to football to see the lengths they go to with always having different nationality refs in games (even in champions league games aswell I think) they understand even someones nationality can effect a decision
yet clanbase have people, in the management of a team, making decisions of the outcome of their matches.... a lot of big profile games, and of course smaller ones, have been effected over the years. I doubt theres a player here who has not seen or been directly effected by it. Times for me were playing teams like mysod and Krea in EC - they had admins within the team/management making decisions on games - I never really thought this was fair.
Its now happening again, but with a much bigger gaming group, I dont think anyone would doubt they wouldnt act on it. I see CB dying quite soon as the top gaming tournament for EU. A new organisation needs to step in and be the Premier EU tournament, ESL seems to be very organised which is great.
another tournament site that perhaps could take note of this is warleagues, they put in a lot of effort, but a lot of the time fall at the last hurdle with some of the same problems that cb brings.
Match should just be replayed since digni had a wrong guid and h2k didn't had demos.
If they started about the guid before the match the decission was right, but if after the match comes out that the guid was wrong and h2k can't give demos to dignitas. It should just be a rematch.
So fuck h2k, they are noobs anyway I can rember playing the first time cod2 at the GamePlay vs one of their playing and losing 14-30. The player I played againt shoudl realy be asshamed for being killed by somebody who playes the game for the first time. If I had one kill more I would have won a steelseries 5Hv2 USB.
Those are ladder rules, those do not apply to cups.
"One of the main issues sticking out here is one I have never understodd. Admins having associations with teams allowed to make decisions on their matches - you only have to look to football to see the lengths they go to with always having different nationality refs in games (even in champions league games aswell I think) they understand even someones nationality can effect a decision"
This is in no way allowed, if you encounter cases like such make sure you contact the chief of cups or game supervisor.
"the second case -> rules allowed the guy with wrong guid to play if it can be proved that the guy was the one who was playing in dignitas."
Incorrect, please read the rules again. Also it states nowhere that demo's have to be uploaded after a demorequest. Therefore H2k doesn't have to upload them and they will not receive a forfeit loss.
Just wanted to get some errors out of here, bye!
Admins and supporvisors are too scared to make a sane judgement with the rules _in mind_ in general, so they hold on as tightly as they can to the exact letter of every phrase.
atleast thats in the ET rules, dunno about CoD
Is there even gamestop in europe?
Nowadays however there are many top leagues all offering more prizes than Clanbase EuroCups so all that was left was the prestige of playing and beating the very best in the game in the EuroCups.
With those teams withdrawing the prestige is also gone so there is simply nothing left but game vouchers from a company that neither teams in the final can use.