Map Pools!
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20 Jan 2010, 14:00
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News
After some deliberation the Map Pools for both CoD and ET are now ready, for CoD it was relatively straight forward but for ET with the change to 5on5 it took some contemplation, we decided to go with only 6 maps in contrary to our usual 7 for fear of offering an unbalanced map pool, we have a mixture of 3 'stable' maps and three 'fast' maps.
CoD Map Pool - backlot, crash, citystreets, crossfire, strike.
ET Map Pool - Goldrush, Radar, Supply, Delivery, Braundorf, Frostbite
There was a desire to put further custom maps into both lists however neither had suitable new candidates at such short notice.
CoD Map Pool - backlot, crash, citystreets, crossfire, strike.
ET Map Pool - Goldrush, Radar, Supply, Delivery, Braundorf, Frostbite
There was a desire to put further custom maps into both lists however neither had suitable new candidates at such short notice.
we have a mixture of 3 'stable' maps and three 'fast' maps.
When i attack its always a fast map
When i defend its always a stable map
frost :o
otherwise ok
the first attack sucks since you allways plant and then cap, only exciting thing of the map is if an engi goes through down and builds the thing :P
And braundorf is an ok map, but I just hate the lean camp, rifle spam etc in that one. It's better 6on6 than 3on3. In 5on5 I have no experience, but still I don't like it much. Ofc it can turn out to be a good one, but I got my doubts
I'm saying this the last time, reactor has been tested for 4 years, and every time it has got negative feedback.
Come back and whine about LAN maplists when you actually gonna visit it.
reactors potential is far more compared to braun or frost or deli.
Apparently pretty funny if one guy is stating which maps are played on the LAN even if he is a famous LAN player himself :D (I don't really think you picked the maps, but krosan makes it sound like that)
And well, reactor maybe isn't the map where the better team always wins, but basically that's what makes gaming interesting. Surprises should always take place. And well, it's a bit easier to go to the LAN if you don't need to go over the sea. Actually we were going to attend CPC 2 for real, but helix folded so too bad.
I might visit the LAN at some point if I got time/money/etc, but pretty harsh talk by you all in all
It's true I haven't played reactor 5on5 but my bet is that you haven't either, have you?
6on6 I have played it multiple times and as I said, it's usually the most exciting and thrilling map.
I'd rather pick adler and bremen in the maplist if not reactor, but at least braun and frost are just complete crap
seriously the tag whine about everything which is different than supply gold or radar is amazing.
clown no engi clown no win
its suited to 5on5.
best map since 5on5 quakecon :)_
braundorf xDDDDD adler/bremen will do just fine thank you
btw. Need QL map pool aswell :))
also having one man less makes it even harder to defence which will result in faster times and increased randomness
it's still a lot better than braundorf and frostbite
I'd still like to play bremen, even if its really hard to defend now.
Adler I just don't like.
I would of just had a map pool of
goldrush, radar, supply, special, bremen
I honestly can't imagine that most people I play(ed) against are able to do those jump on their own. Fucks up everything.
Personally I don't like Braundorf as well, I think it's a really poor designed map (gameplaywise).
Adlernest would have been a better choice.
EDIT: And with impact, tox, xpaz and wiadro were all really damn good at that jump - it wasn't uncommon for all three of them to make it at the same time.
The East wall jump is incredibly easy.
took me time to learn it too, but now I can do it good. wanna train some time?
you seem to be misunderstanding quite a lot :p
People seem to be investing endless hours to learn every trick there is =(
Also, I realise I completely forgot sqzz - don't really need to mention that he could do it flawlessly.
Sherlock.
Maybe that's why I really suck at it.
Well we could propose it but I doubt that it's going to be checked.
not saying any of the jumps are particulary hard to do without
well that certainly ain't true.. or maybe I just have never played on a good team :)
ps. THANK FUCK FOR FROSTBITE <33333333
Do you play ET?
Ask eiM for positive pointers, he'll give you plenty :P
and etice :D
Oh, and for me both maps are perfect for 5v5.
Flag/cp+docrun = win
Flag / plant
shitiest map ever
Alder - is alright though peeople always whine about it
B4 i personally like alot so im happy its there even if others dont
Supply - wouldnt be ET without it...
grush - solid choice
Delivery - not a personal favourite but alot of people play it so it makes sense and it can be good
Radar - solid choice
frostbite - yeh its ok dont like the whole ladder thing tho
Personally i would have liked:
supply, grush, radar, adler, braundorf, reactor, frost
though imo you always a good game there
Next time ask people that know more about the game. Who the fuck adds delivery, braun and frost.
Add Bremen_b1 and adler and remove 2 of the above maps.
It's actually good you just need good teamplay. Trust me it works.
Next to that they should use BREMEN_B1 as map and not b2, B1 has faster gameplay and would fit 5on5 better.
And can anyone tell who makes these maplists? based on what arguments and then i don;t mean the arguments of some guy called Krosan who only plays on pubs.
- Long distance shooting reduced by the same amount
- Lean + 3hs rape
- Corridors...
- Rifle overpowered
- Fops = ammo only...
- Artys/Airstrikes are redundant
- Worst first stage ever, there is no "defend" first stage, you only "delay" your opponents by some seconds
Now compare it with maps such as Supply, Goldrush and Radar.
corridors are much larger
rooms are much bigger
easier to defend first stage, there is no way to defend delivery, it should be fixed, wider flag room and put a gate @ down so it must be planted before passing through.
and iirc our defence was really chaotic because we didnt really play like a team :d we just won because their defense was even more chaotic than ours
first 5on5 and now Delivery, Braundorf, Frostbite in mappool? haha
ice!
and thought "LOL :D! Good to see Crossfire.nu has a sense of humour again, just like the good old days!"
and then i realised you were serious.
what the fuck is wrong with supply goldrush radar mappool
Yea sure take away either Delivery or Braundorf, but not Frost, it's just too good. Maybe do what hummel said and add Ice instead of one of them, maybe even swap two maps for Ice and Karsiah again like hummel suggested, I reckon that would be a sick idea
2. whats the point in watching the same defence against the same attack on the same maps and have no different out comes what so ever...
and since when attending lan is required in order to comment on map pool?
the same 3 maps have been played in competitive quake for OVER TEN YEARS and nobody complains, et community is just full of ADHD spastics
Get a haircut you fucking mess
but well 0:11 played
that's 0:11, as in, 11 seconds into the game
- frostbite
+ reactor (a must)
+ adlernest
AND DELIVERY? which is probably the worst map ever made in ET history
PLEASE.
exciting
why not add vacant to cod4? or perhaps mp_shipment, i heard it's good
half of the teams doing it
Supply, Goldrush, Radar,Frostbite, Delivery, Braundorf.
I'd switch braundorf or delivery with adlernest or reactor/dubrovnik
I honestly think that Bremen's second stage is able to have a crossfire compared to Goldrush courtyard or Radar. But once key is stolen that stage is nearly dead.
Can it be changed Toss ? or its a final desicion ?
please listen to the community once again..
frost - don't know, could be same as 6on6 when 2 min time is not something crazy
braun - could be much better in 5on5 than 6on6
delivery - monster fuck up, in 6on6 it was a decent map, now it is just shit to play.
maybe 1 stage of defense on radar but still..
you have to hold switch and push obj at same time.
while on delivery, it is crucial that you keep controls while you deliver the gold to the truck AT THE SAME TIME.
so in 30 seconds, we outnumber the enemy 3 times.. ezbash 4 razzia.
in rtcw the pf is like 2 players but its still fine :P
spam kills are not random, most of the time they can be expected!
KEEP IT UP NERD
Braundorf is like Delivery in the sense that you only need your lean buttons and a nade to win. Spam is WAY too powerful on Braundorf. Braundorf is also not easy to defend, because if that one medic that goes through spawn manages to catch anyone off guard, it's over already. It's too hard to recover from an engineer planting the controls.
Delivery first stage is the biggest bullshit I've seen in a while, I don't even know why it's there. After that, the game is completely decided by who gets nade kills and who doesn't. Though it isn't as bad as Braundorf and Frostbite, I'd rather see and play Adlernest or Bremen.
hopefully the same is going to happen with this map pool
they're boring..
There's no map better for 5on5 than for 6on6, stop trolling the community.
More players= more fun.
You obviously dont listen to a community saying gtfo with 5on5 in each post where we read 5on5 takes place of 6on6. After your lan announcement CB decided to fuck 6on6 completely even for NC and now ESL remains questioning if they are going to be as retards as CB and you.
So pls if you listen to the community im Bill Gates.
They would have done the same with 6 and you wont have fucked this game even more.
Keep your rules for the fat wanker boys and let normal people play like they always used to.
Who are you mr lan boy to set the new rules for this game?
e: but i dont rly care, i suck in 6o6 and in 5o5
So you are saying CB followed the crossfire rules, where in clanbase does it say they have to follow the crossfire rules?
Clanbase make their own rules, they don't listen to crossfire. So clanbase did choose it themselfs.
I can see your point though, eventhough I think it's invalid.
oh wait..
so: delivery & frost out, adler in
forgot about the one that has been playd
i see you prac @maths a lot !!!!
that#s why im focussing on other subjects now, accounting is just as gay as maths -.-
5 is enough
I personally like it, can't speak for the pro's though ;)
i think with a nice teamplay this maps are usefull.
i prefer supply goldrush radar delivery adler frost
seriously, bremen adler & ice are all better
btw are deciders forced or can you eliminate?
I think frost will succeed and will be fun , especially for the spectators, with excited moments at the trans etc and its not that lotto.
Curious about Radar ; it will be boring as hell to spec thats for sure. But there are enough lotto maps so lets give it a go
and I personally don't like delivery as a 5v5 map, but that's just a personal opinion.
I already send my 'view' on maps to eiM so he can re-read it for more details.
But I think it's a nice mappool.
imo
and i'm still lolling about that intel cup when u guys removed reactor because clown whined about how shit it is
and what about oasis or swoasis?didnt try it i assume
Adler & Bremen IN
Arguments :
We don't need 3 'fast' maps in a map pool of 6. I think 2 are enough to play a potential decider.
And 'stable' maps are faster to play nowadays with 5on5. So don't expect 2 hours matchs in group stage if you doubted of it.
Adler & Bremen IN
Arguments :
We don't need 3 'fast' maps in a map pool of 6. I think 2 are enough to play a potential decider.
And 'stable' maps are faster to play nowadays with 5on5. So don't expect 2 hours matchs in group stage if you doubted of it.
Adler & Bremen IN
Arguments :
We don't need 3 'fast' maps in a map pool of 6. I think 2 are enough to play a potential decider.
And 'stable' maps are faster to play nowadays with 5on5. So don't expect 2 hours matchs in group stage if you doubted of it.
Braundorf can be a decent map but please all except frostbite wich is not played since years :E
Delivery out, Bremen In
See you at lan, look me up :)
frostbite
delivery or braundorf
IN:
adlernest
(new) bremen
Frostbite is fun to watch but players hate it, but in general they are at least receptive to adler.
Braundorf is always either long and boring or over too quickly.
Bremen is the perfect mix to me, all the basic ET objectives are there like in grush (dyno, run docs, escort vehicle) and I think it's a good test for teams.
Adler, like I said earlier, is the more followable of the lotto maps and the doc run is just as exciting as frostbite.
adler must in
and bremen is also fine maybe sos_secret weapons?!
frostbite
braundorf
IN:
adlernest
bremen
Perhaps alder instead of braun? I would also vote for missile, but most people somehow don't seem to like it.
Frostbite
in:
Adlernest