eSport Challenge LAN Announced
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17 Jan 2011, 18:32
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I am pleased to bring you the great news of 'eSport Challenge', A LAN hosted by TLR which is due to take place Friday 1st July - Sunday 3rd July 2011 at the very recognisable Wzzrd LAN centre, Enschede. The LAN itself will feature two tournaments - a 16 team Enemy Territory competition as well as a 16 team Call of Duty 4 competition.
Entry for the LAN is 350 euros per team, this includes staff entry into the event as well as player entry into the competition. Sign ups open 1st March 2011 with any team signing up before the end of March will receive the YCN-Hosting gamers pack at any point before the LAN event which includes an ET Game Server for a month and a voice Server for a month.
Enemy Territory 5vs5 Tournament Preliminary Details
- Entry Fee: 350 Euros (5 players + Manager - less than 60 euros each)
- Prize Pool: 3500 Euros
- Group stage (2 maps, can draw)
- Single Elimination Playoff (Best of 3 maps)
- Single Elimination Consolation Playoff (Best of 3)
We hope for games to start at 9am on the Friday with the Prize Ceremony due to take place after the Grand Finals on the Sunday at around 8pm, a full schedule will be announced at a later date. Map list will be announced at a later date as well. we will be talking to all teams who show an interest in playing at LAN as well as some respected scene members to decide on maps as well as crossfire polls. Everything listed above is subject to change and is just an initial announcement.
Any questions or suggestions regarding the events should be directed HERE.
If your team is interested in attending this event, we are making a list of ET teams HERE
gl
wzzrd bar
wzzrd electricity & water
wzzrd pcs rent
wzzrd monitor rent
wzzrd extra mice/ps3 port cable rent
wzzrd chairs&tables rent (lol)
paying breakfast/lodging for admins
more stuff i don't know about
doubt they will have a lot of profit
ok
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/like - 25
:D?
hope to see you there with YYT :)
-profit??
No CiC but in the same place? that suck like you in ET :\
& single elimination brackets for playoffs ? :E
and 70€ for an expected 4 games seems allot.
- don't do single elimination @ playoffs, like I said the teams that get drawn with the big 2 teams in ET will just be screwed, u can't prove ur worth if u immediately get drawn against the expected champions.
- doing single elimination combined with 1 map per groupstage is ludicrous.
- the price of 70€ is defensible but only if the tournament is ran with normal groupstage & double playoff brackets.
obviously this means that you're gonna play 3 maps
weird shizzle
so 3 maps in whole of grousptage + 1/2 games in playoffs for the price of 70€
2 maps per match. ( Bo2 )
maybe you mean 3 wars?
edit: indeed, shit for not double elimination
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gl all
this time i might even have time :)
Looks i wont be there this time , hf & gl all teams
my first big lan, most probably :D
btw faster!
and if u can pay me nerd :D
Can't wait for the upcoming 4 LANs!!!!11
Since there's no fuel cost I will supply lucozades. :)
I shall ride my bike with no handlebars and meet up with you in Marseille. :{D
needs double elim though, adacore managed to schedule a consolation tourney with double elim, just email him! :P
but adacore is adacore :p
good one
Have fun.
is this your profile? kanye west? hipster reputation--
he is wnb hipster :|
If you are willing to pay €70 just to play some free game at lan, then you got to get your priorities right :o
poor in e-achievements
poor in lanexperience
poor in e-pocals
...
:(
hahahahaA
Great newS !
But 70 euros a player for 4 games if you dnt do well, is pricey :|
Stokkie gonna visit Holland ^^
u need 3 days for that??
none of the guys I would like to go dont want to go.
pds because he is cheater
devix cos no money
ruoska no money
sungi cos he isnt 15 yet :_D
nah but seriously only to a lan I would go with the people I played from 2k5 or so (devix n stuff)
1500€ is the rent for WZZRD, seems a lot considering they make 2 months pay in 2 days
also ET must be double elimination
On a serious note, this is worst tournament format I've ever seen. Seems like even 5on5 can't help tournament organizers to make proper tourney.
are we trying to change et into cod4 a bit more here or what? O_o
i seem to remember that kind of group format and shit from cod4 in the past, i highly doubt it would work for et though
Still, I've always wanted to try a pint that costs 70 euros, heard it tastes fantastic.
not even joking :)
and fo with the uNiQe spanish shit??
Single elimination? :/
will be there i guess (if i dont write any exams @ uni)
:))))
decrease the prizepot and make the entryfee lower
ropfl this gotta be the biggest joke ive heard X:DDDD
also "ecognisable"?
1. 50€. rofl.
2. Groupstage, single elimination playoff :'DDDD
All the medskilled teams, enjoy the "SOCIAL ASPECT OF GAMING", only costs you 50€ for 4 games :)
Make sure you go with guys you like though.
Klein Gallië will be the lost^camp again ..at summer niceee
Varfor mr bög?!?!?
(only serious offers please)
:)
Finals are on my birthday :D
maybe i'm commin on 3rd
./q ehamo
./PM potty on CF
(Love you kevin! Flights booked already :o cu there friend :) )
But if I go I'm going to call you father potty all the time <^^<
If you need players for a team (Fail incomming) pmme.
underskilled, brains, payformyownflightsalreadybooked, can drink as much as (most) englishmen there.
If you arent happy with some of the details, feel free to query myself Seanza or merlin. Nothing is set in stone except there will be a lan on the date provided. If you are going to moan about everything then just stay home. Some of the issues ppl have raised i agree with and will be speaking with TLR etc.
This was in the first and original post.
I edited to make it far more obvious, because that sentence and the LAN being 6 months away wasn't obvious enough. :)
Im more of a heathrow guy, just as station near me goes directly there :P
dont mind getting in early though, can maybe meet up as that train journey is as boring as hell x)
yea sounds good, will try to sort out my flight soonish - will let you know.
In your own news if you feelt the need to clarify smth do it once & only once. Don't get drawn into petty irrelevant shit - it lessens what you're putting out.
It's not the end of the world if people think they've influenced decisions when it's something you'd already done anyway, could've done this a different way but meh it's irrelevant.
You've six months to keep the story alive could've used the follow up story, you'll be wanting at least 1 news / feature a month to maintain the hype. Everything any team does should be building up to this - mention it everywhere (subtly like) as you're competing with 2 established brands now ^^
Peace, love, unity.
Just to elaborate ppls reactions
I'll definately be there, just in question if I am playing or not
Why would the less good teams sign up, knowing they'll pay €70 pp and then get spawnraped 3 out of their 4 matches :-)
Coming from someone who gets full support ^^
Enjoy the game :-)
PS: I hope it ain't a stupid question, but how's the "hooliganism" at lower levels in England?
For example get in a scrap at the football you're liable to at least six months in jail and banned from football for a few years - get in a fight round town you might spend a nights in jail, at worst get a fine.
Fucking ridiculous. Sometimes I wish I was born 30-40 years earlier, you know what I mean? :-)
cu there
ARE YOU SERIOUS LOL ??
playoff single elim is bad but wouldnt be deciding factor of me attending this lan, i think people are blowing this out of proportion basic CF style
make it straight to triple elim "playoffs" bo3? :D too lazy to count if its actually less games but it would be a lot better for players
but yeah seems like these lans are going downhill all the time even though its 5on5!!
xD!
Vanavond FM'en rond 9uur/kwart over 9?
Amsterdam - Stuttgart (04.07.2011 12:30-13:45)
BOOKED!
Need roommate again.
(Ground is reserved for ipson and sa7z)
Change format
Highest Prizemoney should be 2,500 or 2000/1.500. For that do entry fee 35/30€
Change some things, just do it like the ccLAN. Shit for others, playing 4 games for 70€.
And maybe do more slots, 32 :Oo
Unless someone is willing to sponsor travelling + hotel costs? If yes, please pm asap!
i need money to pay for my room/food/beer u know :P
i work every tuesday night and saturday
Might make admins take it more seriously.
MAYBE WE CAN GET CRACK ADDICT FRO DOWN!!!!!
fro - no chance.
wouldnt even arrive at the lan center.
If you come up with a serious offer I can confirm that teamoxid will fund their team to attend to your event.
Besides, I do also support twister's request for a quake live tournament.
u wont pay for me? :****(
I could easily make this event 32 CoD4 teams, but I wanted to include ET because this community needs more events. Given the fact that lowering the entry fee won't help any without dropping the prize pot for ET (which is something I don't want to do). Let's say €300, you're only saving €10 per team of 5 people, it's not a major difference, really.
You might consider the amount of call of duty teams a reason to keep the entrance fee as you can say the price goes by interest - if you can tell the same about ET you might need to check further to reach the same respond with that amount of money you want to have. If you want to keep it that way I can only say that I can not invest money in an event that pretends to be good for the community even though i could also transfer the money to the danish LAN announcement that reached the same effort as you did regarding self earning.
I'm not usually one to get involved in disputes surrounding decisions I make, but this time I feel I have to because I have some guy accusing me of using this LAN as financial gain for myself. For some people, it's not about money, you know.
Arguements about lack of organisations in ET became invalid once the interested Call of Duty 4 teams hit the 50 mark.
Also, you'll find that I didn't once mention it was less than €60 per player.
"Entry Fee: 350 Euros (5 players + Manager - less than 60 euros each)" is up in the newspost, I agree that you didn't say it though.
R0SS mentioned my comment was moronic and disrespectful. I know you can't read behind my mind but I guess I have to state that I am happy about the location and about the intention of the event. But I feel terrible if I can't fund the team that's playing for me because the entrance fee is way to high to afford for a team without sponsors atm.
Also, R0SS mentioned my attendances at some crossfire challenges as admin, and he even presumed I know about the costs coming up with an event. This should be the point where you should understand my aggressive behaviour regarding why I do want to know about the high of the entrance fee.
The fact you can be so disrespectful to TLR and especially Seanza, who has gone out of his way to make this Lan which is of huge benefit to the ET community, frankly amazes me. The guy is covering his own costs in pre-meetings when he goes to Enschede and visits wzzrd months before the lan even commences. You then state that some of the money is being used to fund our teams. How can you make such a bold statement when you dont even know how many admins are lined up and what shoutcasting hosts we are going to hire, pc costs etc etc.
Seriously, if you are going to whine about an extra 50 euros, then keep your money you ungrateful prick. But dont start talking crap and making false accusations about TLR salary etc. PPL like you are what hinder ET from getting to that next stage. A lan that is run side by side with cod4 and has the exact same prize purse is unprecedented. Plus the fact you will have top quality shoutcasting streams for both ET and cod4. Any additional lan is a bonus to the ET community, if you are going to whine about 50 additional euros then save your money. I hope to god your ET team realises that you are holding them back. Dont get me wrong, its great you support an ET team in anyway, but the fact you make such a big deal out of 50 euros and make false accusations outweighs the good.
To think i even pondered on the idea of trying to get a deal on cabins for teams with lack of support etc then read comments like this. Ridiculous.
Or maybe if you add LoL :p
Cu@lan
otherwise i will never plan wasting that amount of money.
yep true
Nevertheless, got a free weekend, so maybe I'll check it out!
Are you still playing in that Low Land Lions cup? QL ofc
For some people (students for example) 70euro is pretty much. That 70 euro doesnt include the hotel/food/drinks etc...
and ye, 70€ pretty much, but still, the difference between these communites are quite huge
wanted to write something similar to ArtstAr's comment(Comment Ignored (+)), so not going to write more :P
Well I think, same as the Cod4 community, everyone is happy to see another ET lan. But that doesn't mean ppl can't complain :)
No money no funny rest is bullshit. Have fun those who attend!
But I'm not sure if I will pay 70+all other costs..Considering there are few more lans to come, as I'm planning on attending CC8 and UK Lan which will cost enough as it is.
I will obviously go if I get support and I might post that I'm looking for a team with support, but I guess a lot of players are in the same situation as me. Good job on the lan though x
gr supply adler radar + fifth = frost/karsiah/bremen
Would be a good idea if it's possible :)
But bring mata and bff back with you! I miss them :(
tapa is laik paradise
http://www.tek-9.org/news/thelastresorts_esports_challenge_in_july-3459.html
e: 58 interested CoD4 teams and not even a little bit of whine on the tek-9 post about the LAN. if anything, they're praising TLR for the tournament :D no wonder ET will never be included in an eSport LAN.
(and I can 100% guarantee there will be teams attending who don't have full support, or any/much at all)
God fucking damnit this is such a retarded statement.
Why don't they charge 300€? Do you think that 300€ is hard to save over 7 months? No. Ofcourse it isn't. But that's not the fucking point you obtuse moron.
tell me why it's retarded instead of being your regular prick-like self. I was just pointing out how negative everyone is being about something so minor. :D I'm not saying the reason everyone is complaining is just about the 70€ either, everyone on this site will have something to complain about. (the date, the format, the prizepot, the location, the price, the venue, blabla)
e: anyway, I'm just saying that it's only 20€ more than the last Crossfire LAN and it's nothing to even worth complaining about? even the poorest thirdie would pull together 20€ extra. not that they should if they don't agree with the price, since people didn't go to CiC7 due to the price increase from the previous LAN too.
70€ isn't retarded, it's just a tad pricey for what is on offer (single elim at the time of posting). Your reasoning for 70€ is what is retarded and to quote yourself "not even gonna get into it rofl :D"
Add the expected travel + accommodation + food price and you do have a costly bill even for 7 months saving. Anywhere a team can save money they should.
For AEF CoD4 also had 350€ income fee, and I was expected to ask 350€ too. I decided against this to attract more teams, with success. And that was after 6 months of no lan (and another 6 months of no lan to come).
I'm not saying how they should run their lan, I'm saying you should always take the bigger picture in mind.
And please don't compare this community to Tek-9 when it comes down to money-issues. ET is a free game and not everyone can afford a lot in this community. People who bought CoD4 are more likely to spend another 70€ for the game they like, whereas the ET players never had to pay anything to enjoy their beloved game. Also, the CoD4 community is a LOT bigger than ET's, making the demand increase thus increasing the price. You can't just drag the line from CoD4 to ET.
But I also don't like the constant criticism here. People often don't understand the value of a complement and just throw some complaint out there like it's the only thing they can think of.
belong there ? Who the fuck do you think you are?
Yes the ET entrance fee is in line with what other games pay for LAN events in general, but this is because ET has only had one lan in the past really, AEF was 350 too, but Krosan made the decision (afaik) to lower it to 300. This simply is not an option here, as 350 for all 32 slots is needed to simply break even.
As far as I know this is the only thing that is not up for debate, purely for that reason. The format will undoubtedly change as the LAN is 6 months off and nothing was 100% solid there, was just to let the ET scene (and CoD4 scene) know they hadn't been abandoned in after the EMS stupidity - the reaction here to a LAN being announced IS a bit OTT though :p
Nobody will fall to his knees to adore TLR for a LAN. For most of the et players a LAN is like ice cream. If you get some its nice and cool but if not nobody would care.
also LANs would be better associated with water than ice cream, they are needed every now and then or the competitive scene dies out.
With a limited amount of slots for ET, only the teams who do have the money will be able to come (which is just normal market logic).
Artstar's statement was pretty offensive though :P
and there were offensive statements being thrown both ways, some a bit more targeted than others. vive la cf
if 20€ is the deciding factor of whether someone goes to LAN or not, _should_they_even_be_thinking_of_leaving_their_country_
e: and I'm not saying they are better or worse than anybody else (even if it looked that way, I'd be calling them 20€ poorer than the rest of the attendees?), because I personally would never go to a LAN because I'd need to pay the whole trip myself. just pointing out that the entrance fee being raised by 10€ since AEF is a retarded reason not to go (if they were truly thinking of going in the first place).
NOT IM IN BLANES THEN MUHAHAHA
Teams that do get support can attend all the LANs granted, but in ET... that isn't exactly much. You have to look at the difference between ET and CoD, the size of the community and the support they get.
Yes, you have your top teams attending all the LANs (fnatic, BB, MYM and loads of others) but then you have the smaller teams. Local LANs get loads of teams as well (I-series). These smaller teams don't go to every LAN, they try to go to as many as they can yes, but when they have to pay everything, they have to try and choose which LAN they want to go to.
In ET, probably a max of 8 teams would get at least the bare minimum (entrance), and thats being generous.
So then you have... another 8 teams (depending on slots), that come from the same player base. Hence, with 4+ LANs this year alone, interest will decrease massively UNLESS a sudden burst of MGCs show interest in ET and start to invest (which is very unlikely).
Best example would be... myself. If I don't get any kind of support, I'd have to pay:
entrance: 70x4 = 280
accommodation: Lets say... 100e for 4 nights: 100x4 = 400
travel: 250 or 300... 300x4 = 1200
without even counting spending money whilst there... it comes 1880e.. over 4 LANs, spending money could easily make this figure go to 2500e or 3000e. Thats alot of money :P This is me being very generous with prices regarding accommodation as well.
With CoD this isn't a problem, as if 1 small team from France cannot make it, 3 English ones can. Where as... if for example, team-potty and team-sa7z wont be able to make it, who is actually going to replace them?
With 2 LANs a year, things were fine financially, maybe even push that up to 3, but now with potentially 4+, all quite close to each other in date, I fear that numbers won't be met for all LANs. Maybe this one won't be a problem as it is the first announced LAN, but others...
Just my 2c :P
5on5 and 3on3 !!!??! that would be a
it was a quote of baggiez. he said that the logistical nightmare was the cause to change from 6on6 to 5on5 ;)
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350/6 = 58
but infact it is:
350/5 = 70€ per player.
just tell the teams, the entrance fee is for 5 players an 5 managers:
350/10 = 35€ per player - GREAT SUCCES!
- top
And then there are 500 posty whining about the entry fee :D tOrM already said it, that's probably one of the smaller costs attending this LAN for most.
Wanted to go last year to see Vitalic but couldn't get the time off work so made a decision that I wanted to go this year again :D
answer asap
Until early 2010 CoD4 was double elim where all matches up to the WB/LB final were BO1 matches, with each match being 45 mins playing time + 15 mins setup time. When people moaned BO1 was too random, the only way to have BO3 in playoffs was to have single elim all the way through....
But I duno how much time admins normally allocate for matches in ET but if its anything over 1 hour it's a bit steep to expect double elim when its being run alongside other games and/or has a lot of teams attending.
Crossfire LANs are no longer just ET and AeF wasn't just ET and neither will the TLR LAN just be ET, so ^_^