CB Nationscup vs ET-Cup Nationscup?

Who gets your vote, CB or ET-Cup?
27.1 %
(236 votes)
61.1 %
(532 votes)
11.8 %
(103 votes)
Comments
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Mmm, biscuits..
cheese is also good! *licks lips*
Parent
even better :D
Parent
Personally 6v6, it will have also have a much better skill level than the 5v5 cup judging by the way things are going.
clanbase
chocolate
clanbase, only because its their name, other cant even use it.
Yeah...like they got copyright on that. Next thing you are saying only FIFA is allowed to use the world World Cup.
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they dont need to copyright it, that aplies to documents and such, not names. they just have to proof its a brand or product name,and that someone else uses their name with a similair product. im 100% positive they will easily win in court (in holland at least, and thats where cb is located right?).

WC is a flawed argument, as that has always been used for naming international sports tournements, yet NC is only used by CB.
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You can protect names too. And I dont think CB did, wether or not they used it or not, you need to pay for a protected name.
Parent
no, you dont need to pay for a name. you need to pay to protect any idea's or inventions, names are automatacily protected, any law student can back me up on this.
Parent
i heard that fifa get a copyright and made already probs @handball-WM
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6v6 no doubt bout it
5 on 5 FTW
5on5 because it's clearly better than 6on6. Thank you new CB admins for making ET so fun to play !
Are you really from Japan ? :/

Because your opinions are like you were from Japan :)
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blingblingbling
sarcasm meter exploding
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7on7 would be cool
6on6 NC ofc!
there wont be a 6on6 NC
Parent
this wont be a nationscup cause there is only a clanbase nationscup maybe a 6on6 cup of nations
Parent
Dude, don't start being so grammatically correct.
Parent
what i actually tried to say is that an et-cup nc wont be the same as an clanbase nc no matter if its 6on6 or 5on5
Parent
If ET-Cup wants to call it Nationscup, they can.

So...
Parent
lol @ votes
This is a crap poll.. Who cares about the votes? 2% of the voters will never play in NC.. The poll should be..

Have u ever played 5on5 in competition? Cause many ppl whine but never played it.. :)
its maybe not about only playing et? what about watching it?
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I watch lots of 6on6 and 5on5 but i don't see all players @ the same time so watch 6on6 or 5on5 is the same thing for me.

Sorry.. There is not a huge diference between both. Is a bad argument for me.
Parent
there is a huge difference...
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For who is watching?
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For both, the watchers and the players.
5on5 is boring to watch imo, i don't wanna watch a qcon match any more, something's missing only the money involved in the tournament made it exciting.
But the difference for the players is even more important.
Parent
I think u didn't saw the pga qualifiers matches but ok :)
Parent
Those PGA qualifiers were great, but the only reason why they rocked was because of TosspoT casting them. No other reason given to watch 5o5.
Parent
historical moment of idle loosing two matches also?:)
Parent
no, same as qcon, the shoutcast was nice, nothing else (which makes this interesting aswell and stuff)
Parent
rofl that is the funniest statement i've read here so far :DD
Parent
thats no reason, 5on5 is actually pretty the same to watch, perhaps even better because aimers are heavier rated
Parent
i dont watch ettv for some aiming lool, i dont remeber when i last time watched firstperson. i watch teams movements and tactics there
Parent
I'd say 5on5
won´t play anyway :p
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i hope that CB admins will see this poll :)
HAHAHAHAahahaHAHhA
Parent
check labs comments:
"LOL"
Parent
it's just another 5on5 or 6on6 poll :x

I definitely prefer 6on6 :)
ET-Cup 6v6
6on6 for sure
that people who made that 6on6-shit are the biggest retards
weren't you pro-5on5? :O
Parent
You should be happy, they increase your chance of winning the Clanbase NC X.
Parent
Germany will not be the only team who doesn't participate in the CB NC X. And Suisse will only have to pracc 5v5, while the others have to pracc 6v6 and 5v5 in the same period. I can't speak for other ofc but it seems to me it would lead to mistakes and stuff.
Parent
still, we have to talk english in ventrilo like the belgians + nobody said they must try winning both cups ;)
Parent
Don't you Suisse guys all speak german or french? And the majority will try to get as far as they can, because they think they have the skill to do so.
Parent
swiss-german, french, and italian. that makes like:
A + B + C = English
Parent
Haha, I thought you had a common language : )
Parent
Rätoromanisch :).
Parent
there is no active et-gamer who talkes rätoroman
Parent
what about ClanBase who started all this shit with changing the format to 5on5? I don't personally care that much if it's 5on5 or 6on6, if all leagues just would use the same format.
Parent
true, but nobody except the CB admins can refuse + know why they made that decision..
so after that you just have to accept what they did, and not to split it even more. in about 2 months there are 2 leagues 5on5 and 6on6, both different configs and different communities, there you go!
Parent
Or Clanbase could at least finnaly release their explanation for the change, as was announced after the change itself. Maybe then the players could accept it.

Just a wild guess.
Parent
I asked a week after it for an url to their explanation. Nobody gave it to me.
I talked to DoneX today and I said he should explain the change, if they already did it, why didn't he say so?

I doubt they gave their explanation, but I want you to proove me wrong.
Parent
LOL

i wanna see that
Parent
CB's NC > some wnb NC
that's why you are playing 6o6 ET-Cup NC?
Parent
because others want to play 6on6 only means i have to agree with them?
Parent
well no, never said that.
but you can also say that you only play 5on5 :)
Parent
i like 6on6 more than 5on5 but i would rather play 5on5 NC hosted by cb than 6on6 nc hosted by et-cup but even that doesnt mean i dont like or want to play 6on6 nc hoted by et-cup i was just stating which i like better maybe saying wannabe nc sounded too harsh =)
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accepted :)
Parent
Depends which has the best players
4on4 for more LANS
no config though :(
Parent
care as long cb will do it easy as that
so in this case 5on5 you wont let some randoms organise the world cup right ?
imo cb are the randoms...
or would every football player accept a 10 vs 10 world cup?
Parent
how do you even dare to call cb a random ? the cup where everyone started and you sir just calls it a random

shows how the majority act on changes in the game
the game is not perfect each small change brings a lot of criticism some are correct and some are just childish and just the fact people DON`T want to change

i think 5on5 is far from perfect atm but with some config changes it will be i enjoy both 5on5 and 6on6
this is not a discussion if you like 5on5 or 6on6 it is about a discussion if some random should do a nationcup

would you play if i made a nationcup with some other (admins) and make it 6on6 just cause i know i will win some souls ?

i only can call it childish of et-cup that is all :<
Parent
10v10 would bring more skill to football.. nah j/k
Instead of complaining against clanbase..
we should beg them for making NC 6on6 !!
Parent
why even beg for the 6on6 ? i love the 5on5 now teams will be even more skilled
1 less player ...teams should decide who to lineup (so probably better lineups)
cb should make a new config
and there you go an almost PERFECT and even better nationcup then there have been.

be open for changes some are easy to take other are harder and take more time to get used to

don`t be harsh and get open for new ideas if the community reacted like this when the game went from 7on7 to 6on6 we euros would probably be the same skill as ausies or yanks ^^
Parent
you say it JUST because you prefer 5on5 over 6on6 thats all :P
Parent
oh god ...

let`s explain it step by step then

1st i don`t prefer 5on5 over 6on6 either way it wont stop me from playing et

2nd i do love the decision of making this game more exciting and more skilled

3rd nationcup is a cup that should be organised by cb

4th some people are too stupid to understand some changes, so forcing those changes might be the best and easiest way to do it

5th it is just common sence that people dislike changes especially when they have been used to those thing that are being changed
those people should wake up and stop living in the past and consider that some changes are actually good for a game.
Parent
you said: 1st i don`t prefer 5on5 over 6on6
but few lines higher you wrote that you love 5on5, so /me rly not understand

second, who said 5on5 is more skilled? ofc you can have your opinion and we all allow you to have your opinion. but you=(27% minus those who respect CB only for their name and history and their help to ET) are not us=(62% - over two times) all votes show that, no matter if there was 50 voters, 300 voters, 1000 voters or 1800 voters, the 62-28 was set from very start of this vote and kept at this line for all the time and will hopefully keep to the end.

What is I dont like in Clanbase's behaviour is that they used their NAME (their position, history, their help in making ET great etc) and now many people defend them just because its Clanbase, who made that decision. If ESL said '5on5 in the future' there would be nobody to defend them, and everyone would stick to 6on6. But it was CB! Oh they are gods. Of course Clanbase has experience in making NC and only they should make NC (and all this situation with doubled NC is very very bad) but good that ET-Cup made NC 6on6, because its 6on6. ET-Cup is nothing and if they made NC 5on5 and CB made NC 6on6, there would be noone to participate in 5on5 NC.
Parent
prefering something and loving something are 2 big differences
i love both 5on5 and 6on6
i rather play them both tbh
i am not that active anymore so i would probably lose my spot if we would play a 5on5

5on5 is more skilled cause teams lineup their best players (best mix)
especially when you got teams containing of 8 players who can play that day
so probably those teams would lineup their best team atm so that really makes ET a bit more skilled and a bit more fun to watch

IF esl came up with the idea of 5on5 and would force it i would respect them for doing it and i would support them making cups
BUT i would not support them if they sundenly came up with a new NATIONCUP cause we aint talking about the fact that 5on5 or 6on6 are good choices we are talking about the fact another cup want to (steal) organise the nationcup.
Parent
6v6 > * , it doesn't make game more pleasant if we remove a player..
Parent
why not ?
removing 1 player will force people to work harder on their skill to make sure they have that spot in the line up
Parent
i dont undertsand your way of thinking: if ppl dont want changes, so why to change at all? Ppl dont like changes you said, are you masochist?
Parent
but people seem to don't like the game as it is either...so why not try to change it in order to make it more attractive?
Parent
the thing that people didnt like were mortar basically and that was removed on esl's config so...
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so why don't all the people who quitted ET because they didn't like it anymore (mainly bec. of mortar as u said) come back now?
just to let you know: i don't support any side. i don't care much about if it's 6on6 or 5on5 because I don't play competitively anymore.
Parent
i would say we changed a lot and mortar are 1 of the last steps we have to go but why we should change the unique gameformat 6on6 to something wierd???
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Quotepeople seem to don't like the game as it is either

Quoteso why don't all the people who quitted ET because they didn't like it anymore come back now

this means that YOU dont like the game as it is either and YOU quit playing the game competitively (as you said).

You just stated those two things like it is obvious, and imo it isnt, because IMO:

Quotepeople seem to like the game as it is either


And there are people who get bored of something after some time. Some people get bored by game in 2 years, some 4 years, some in 3 months, and its not about the game is wrong, but they want to play something other. And some of them come back in some time because they lost their boredom, or something hapend that they want to play ET for some time till they get bored again.
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Quotethis means that YOU dont like the game as it is either and YOU quit playing the game competitively (as you said).


i don't play anymore because i don't want to invest as much time as it needs to. i never said that i dislike the game but nevertheless a game is not worth the effort you have to put in. i still play some mixes from time to time because i still think that it's the best game around!

QuoteAnd there are people who get bored of something after some time. Some people get bored by game in 2 years, some 4 years, some in 3 months, and its not about the game is wrong, but they want to play something other. And some of them come back in some time because they lost their boredom, or something hapend that they want to play ET for some time till they get bored again.


so why do people get bored by a game? because it's always the same. so why not change some things in order to prevent that people are getting bored?
nearly every change (be it the removal of the XP system or anything else) had his own dispute and at the end nearly every change improved the competitive gaming aspect (imo) so why don't give it a try? i think 5on5 didn't do too bad (till now) and as you can see it brought a bit of new challenge to the game
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it brought much whine and flame such as our discussion here hehe :)

thats true changes bring something new, fresh breeze, but if change is bad, you shouldnt implement it (when you know if they change is good or bad? mmm you cant rly know that, so you make vote...), i mean you shouldnt make changes just for changes themselves, just to change something coz it got bored. its obvious that the game will get bored, no matter what game it is.
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lol everybody lets Quote eachother to death! :D
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six on six ofcourse.
@ admins:

get down, make love..



AND ACCEPT, THAT MOST OF THE COMMUNITY WANNA PLAY 6O6
cb.. whatever format it is :)
3on3 NC ftw :)
cb or et-cup?
Parent
that would be so corrupt. :)
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I luv chaos :D
Parent
CB for sure
Oh man, the NC really looses there tension because of this parted tournaments. Both Superadmins should think about a solution.
Finally a good idea. ^^
Parent
6on6 only

et-cup rulez
Only i rule
6o6 !!!
CB won poll, close now. Thanks.
5vs5 for me!
[/flame]if it is all about a democracy how about we make the next poll remove fdj as a shoutcaster xD
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i would love a 3on3 EUROcup but a 3on3 or 1on1 nationcup is not needed and would be really boring to watch
and i still support 1on1 because lots of people underestimate 1on1 in et
too bad ladders are messed up if not i would love to play ladder 1on1 and actually would enjoy seeing top players fight each others in 1on1 games
that would make et a bit more exciting.

ET is not all about aim and removing 1 player makes the game faster and teams will be forced to rethink their lineups
and ofc most top players refuse this decision they probably don`t want to leave or kick another teammate. especially when you are atm not as active or as skilled as the rest in your team, people are just scared of these changes (most leaders don`t even dare to choose a lineup when they have enaugh players available)

i have been watching loads of games ..i probably have seen almost all ec/nc/esl/oldschool demos and tbh 5on5 demos are far more fun to watch than most of the 6on6 games
for example all of the cpc demos where great fun (compare them with esl 6on6 or et-cup and you would notice the big difference xD)

the only real problem atm with 5on5 is that we don`t have the correct config

but thanks again for making me laught that was actually far more exciting than your casts
flame on :O
my bad was talking about pga xfire lan qualifiers

did you before starting making any conclusion even watch some 1on1 demos ?

there is nothing more exciting as a duel!
i would LOVE to watch lock vs qyz (or lettu)
maus vs tekoa/butchji
mystic vs ferus xD
this however will never happen but if this was possible it would brake all viewers records @ ettv

but once again you choose to flame instead of actually thinking about what we can do to make this game even more exciting, keep it up <3
0WN3D BY Z3 CL4NB4$3!!!!1einZ
Every poll concerning this topic has come to the same result - clear win for 6on6.

Are the CB admins/leaders stupid or just don't care about popularity? :O
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