What OS do you use to game?
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4 Apr 2008, 21:26
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In light of recent comments regarding X-RaY and linux support, what OS are you running to play games on?
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83.6 %
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10.6 %
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(waiting for a linux geek, who only uses his amazing interactive desktop to navigate through 500gb of shit songs, or whine on gaming community sites, to say that linux is a lot better in EVERY way)
if you really think this, shut down your computer and never come back.
links on how to set up a render farm for after effects/3d max/maya on a linux based cluster plz
edit: i'm not saying that linux is bad. but people who are recommending are mostly linux fanatics, spending most of their days making love to their OS. what i need is a responsive system, that doesnt fuck around with compatibility when i want to work with graphic programs.
edit2: i have tried other OS than windows. i use mac a few times a week at uni. and i tried linux a few times. the only problem i see in linux is that you have to put a lot of effort into making it work like you want, and i find that really useless.
As for the graphicing stuff, I don't know much about that, but it should definately be possible. Making a render farm sounds like a fun thing to do though, I'd be happy to help you with that.You can take a look at drqueue, which has been used Pirates of the Carribean for instance.
Something I do know for sure though is that Linux runs remarkably snappy on remarkably bad hardware. So if it's responsiveness you're looking for, stop looking :)
i'm not saying its a bad OS. i'm saying its a bad OS for me. and if its so wonderful why doesnt someone release a version that combines the performance and moding abilty of linux with compatibility of xp?
That you cannot run certain Windows applications under most Linux distributions, however, can hardly be blamed on the distributions. Those applications were written for Windows, not for Unix-like systems. Their lack of portability is therefore essentially the fault of their developers, not of the developers of Linux distributions.
I'm not working with graphics programs, but I'm pretty sure there are several solutions to run these programs under linux very well
For me configuring linux took about an hour. Now it's working flawless for about a half year without any "compability issues" or whatsoever. Compability issues were like two years ago or even earlier when there were no absolutely leading linux OS distro's. Now it's Ubuntu, SuSE and Fedora (atleast based on any of those distros). If you choose Slackware or any other "not friendly to newcomers" distro doesn't make linux into a "configure all day and night" OS.
I've worked with mac's (G5 @ sound recording studio) too and I must admit that I like it better than linux and windows due to the fact that it seems to be way friendlier and intuitive for newcomers (atleast it was for me). Not to mention stability when there's lot of processing going on.
And as I've said - a lot of effort in configuring to work it YOUR way takes not more than 2-3 hours, And to do that You don't have to open your web browser. Tell me, please, how much time do you spend on configuring Your windows, how many web pages for patches and stuff do you have to visit to make OS "work the way You need"? Besides - "putting a lot of effort" in configuration ... do you reinstall your computer every weekend?
Btw I've never heard that you can configure Windows to make it work "as you need". It's built so that "you must adapt to windows needs".
And I think this discussion will lead to nothing, as the poll is about GAMING, not daily work or specific program running. You use windows for gaming - I use linux for gaming. Just the sad part in all this is the fact that linux users mostly gets ignored on native software as in this case with anti-cheat software (and PB also)
Also nowdays running in emulation windows software ain't problem (Cedega, Wine, CX office etc.)
huh, any examples? Especially ones where it really shows some advantages. >8D
on ubuntu it's configured for some neater syntax highlingting and code processing (indent, unindent @ TAB/shift+TAB) out of the box, and has affected my productivity on debian (not too much though, lol).
also, the whole Administration menu and tools are better setup on ubuntu, this is where they've concentrated their work...
Who the f*ck needs an "amazing interactive desktop"?
Give me a command line, and I'll stroll through that 500gb in no time :)
And anyways, I only have good songs.
More info could be found here:
http://news.softpedia.com/news/What-Is-Microsoft-Really-Saying-with-XP-SP3-RC2-Refresh-Build-5508-81772.shtml
been using for 2+ years without a single problem, recently changed PC and did a new nLited installl <3
LE: I may have said a big zero. I dont know much about Mac OS Kernel. Let me document :).
ye, my flatmate has something like 40 computers at his home in sweden, i guess it's something related to the climate :D
now I got 6 PCs as well x)
As it proven itself to give more performance even @ emulation than just installed window$. It's more safe (randowm crashes BSoD & other Gates software ejaculations), better performance and it have native clients to all games which I play - RtCW, W:ET, ET:QW, Q3, WSW.
You won't get me to use windows if you pay me to do so.
when i say unfortuntaly i only mean that the other companys such as Linux and MAC are not even getting the chance to show their OS potential due to compatibility...
Ticked Linux btw.
Centos and Ubuntu on disk, ubuntu on my other computer.
where's the mac / other option ?
9/10 boots on my system are linux. the only reason for me to boot windows is for games which have no linuxclients.
something to smile & think about:
"1. Windows 97.65%
2. Linux 1.27%
3. Macintosh 0.75%
4. Playstation 3 0.09%
5. (not set) 0.07%
6. iPod 0.07%
7. Playstation Portable 0.04%
8. iPhone 0.04%
9.Danger Hiptop 0.01%
10. SymbianOS 0.01%
11. Nintendo Wii 0.01 %
12. PalmOS / SunOS < 0.01%
13. IRIX < 0.01%"
Google analytics for Crossfire (as posted by Rafiki in the 'What is your browser poll?')
Next you're going to tell me that Crossfire doesn't make up the majority of the competitive scene? Give me a break, there's no linux issue."
I'm guessing lots of people are clicking Linux for the sake of it, I doubt more than 5% use it full time as their sole operating system.
the problems are special applications. big companies which have to do with big money seem to have no interest to invest in free operating systems as there is not much money to gain. so if you want to play games or use professionale software like photoshop you have to stick to windows.
Linux is better, in just about every way, but suffers from compatibility issues and a chronic shortage of really really good 3rd party apps. Once you get beyond the likes of Firefox, Open Office and the like, they're really thin on the ground, which is a shame because it's a really nice OS (depending on the distro).
but you are right (and that is what I tried to say) - no one seems to want to produce software for free distros. there are a lot of free & excellent user-created programs though!
People think "nobody who matters uses Linux", and thus they don't care about supporting it. But why don't people use Linux?
"Because you can't run program/game X on it".
Evil circle?
Not to mention, by excluding the Linux-players from the community you're going to lose a lot of valuable, knowledgable people.
"The less you know about computers the more you want Microsoft!"
:D
If you can't hook people in with something that's free, then I think Linux is the problem not the users. Though it depends on the specific distro, Linux ranges from pointlessly hard to perfection!
And, it ain't easy to hook people up with an OS on which the tools and games they're used to doesn't run. It's not Linux''s fault that it isn't Windows, and tbh being bug-for-bug-compatible with Windows ain't a goal.
But I'll stop now, we don't need yet another flamewar on Windows vs. Linux.
My girlfirend has no clue about computers and linux in paticular. but she installed it (ok i helped a bit with the tv-card, but the rest worked) on her new pc and now uses it since more then a half year without any trouble. The only thing you have to know these days is which hardware you should buy. if you know that you can have a nearly troublefree experience with any linux distro
agree
And NO, I'm not using linux when I'm playing scrims, because of the ventrilo issue!
linux is faster, but much harder to get to work and lacking of support for many essential graphics' programs (including 3d ones), wine/cedega still isn't reliable, and the more frequently a distro is called easy the more it sucks. And also I agree that linux community has a way too much fanatics. Linux has a bad sides and I understand why many people don't use it. However, the point is that I get used to flexibility of it. Console in linux, the way you can instantly shut the window if it doesn't responds, no need for antivir/firewall, all the console utils, the simplicity of using ssh on linux, using net filesystems, ability to read source code of most of programs out there, a skillful/helpfull community ( not talking about an ubuntu one, never written on their forum), and the way it keeps working without formating and restarting. Linux for me is an easier OS - if I've wanted to do the same I use on linux, I would have to buy a lot of IT books: ) However, for the first two months of using linux I had many times when I was thinking about switching back to windows.
But, the point is, the more linux will be treated badly for not being supported by many programms, the more programms won't support it. Easy : )
And Mac OS' should be on that list!
EDIT: Regarding security:
(In case you don't know, Ubuntu is a Linux distribution.)
My XP is running fine and i have never had e problem with it.
http://www.mscsoftware.com/products/
http://www.simulia.com/
http://www.solidworks.com/
http://www.3ds.com/products/catia/catia-discovery/
http://usa.autodesk.com/adsk/servlet/index?id=331041&siteID=123112
EDIT: By the way, even the software from http://www.mscsoftware.com/ can be run on Linux (see http://www.mscsoftware.com/support/prod_support/simxpert/simxpert_r2_hwsw_specs.pdf). The same goes for the software from http://www.simulia.com/. You really "lost your credibility" when you assumed that these applications didn't run on Linux, haha.
That doesn't really change the fact that Windows is the OS of choice in that enviroment, I don't really see how nitpicking makes your point? Except, making you look like a fool, if that's all the arguments you have.
Bullshit. If you knew that those links didn't support your point you a) wouldn't have included them, or b) wouldn't have made the discussion revolve around CAE software in the first place.
And? As I already pointed out, Linux is "the OS of choice" in physics.
You called into question the amount of scientific software available for Linux and I proved that there is in fact an abundance of such software available. You claimed that there was only a minuscule amount of CAE software available for Linux and that what CAE software that was available for Linux probably wasn't used "in the professional world". You said that "Windows beats Linux hands down in such comparison". This, too, I proved you wrong in.
Let's not forget that it was you who made the discussion revolve around CAE software, not I. So when I refute your claims regarding that software, how can you say that I'm nitpicking? I'm proving my point by proving you wrong. That's what arguing is about. You have failed to prove any point against Linux and therefore you have lost the argument. You are making yourself "look like a fool" by obstinately refusing to admit your defeat.
- the discussion wasn't merely on "scientific programs" but programs in general
- .. for that I brought up CAE programs, that were mere example, it was not to revolve around them, contrary what you thought it was
- you are unable to prove your point still, so I can't really see why you bother posting such long reply of "nothing", how have you proved that Linux has larger (professional) software library?
- next time please take care, and read the post before you reply
Also, you are naive to claim that Linux has larger software library, that is just foolish, but it seems to be your game. Also, stating that this is something were there are "winners" and "losers" only prove that you really are a naive linux zealot. It is a thing to base an argument on solid information, than rather what you just "believe" is to be correct.
To be more exact, since you seem unable to follow the discussion, and derailing it whole time.
- Microsoft Windows OS's have larger (professional) software library, in general, and most cases that applies too for specific software, e.g. CAE. You didn't prove me wrong, since those few softwares could be had for both, but the end all result was for Windows - this you ignored since it would not have suited your view. This is why I said you were "nitpicking". All in all that kinda sums it up.
My point wasn't that "Linux has larger software library". I haven't claimed that, and I didn't want to defend such a claim. The discussion revolved around the question of whether there is "plenty of scientific applications available for Linux, too." I know that there is a greater repertoire of software available for Windows, and claiming otherwise would indeed be foolish. But that wasn't what we were arguing about. We were arguing about whether there were PLENTY of applications available for Linux as well. And there is.
I have read your posts quite thoroughly. You started the discussion by asking "In combination with what?", i.e. calling into question the amount of software that is available for Linux. The original poster talked of "working mathematical programs in combination with other things" so it is natural to assume that he was inferring scientific software, hence the weighting of that software in the discussion. I refuted your point regarding that software, and I can refute your point regarding practically all kinds of software if your claim is that there are no Linux equivalents for that software.
I haven't ignored that there was a larger repertoire of software available for Windows. That is a matter of course as Windows has a much greater market share than Linux, hence it is more cost-effective for developers only to develop for Windows. But, again, that wasn't what the discussion was about. You are putting words into my mouth and discussing things I haven't said.
EDIT: Regarding this bit
In every argument there is a winner and a loser. The former is right and the latter is wrong. That you are trying to dismiss that only proves how vague your case actually is. I have based all my arguments on "solid information" by providing references. All throughout the discussion, you have been the one that has been making assumptions and generalisations, not I. In light of that, I find it laughable that you call me a "zealot".
I didn't say that linux didn't have "plenty of software" thats again silly to discuss, but Windows has more in every extent, and that was what this discussion is about.
Also, the "in combination with what" part was missunderstood by you, Exorikos and I have discussed it below. Being a reply to "if you're working mathematical programs _in combination with other things_" - "I'm talking about Matlab with things like msn and Winamp and other things you don't want you to actively bother you while working, with too much icons in your taskbar."
You argue about the wrong thing, that is the funny thing here.
XP @ pc