Should ambientscale be allowed in ET? | Polls | Crossfire

it should have never been disallowed

waiting for those screeeeeenies
would be awsome in sheep's dark ass config :)

need screenshots!

Mate you mean like forcing colour models, like in wsw and other games? If so, hell yeah!

should cheats be allowed??? lololol no

Actually this would be nice, we might aim better with it so aimbotters have less chance of killing us xD

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haha

de h3ll ;)

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plus i want picmip 10 allowed! thx

engine doesnt support this

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it's Q3 engine and it supports picmip 10! just lock at 3 in Et

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et modified one doesnt.
its "locked" in the engine

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and locked cvars can be unlocked ;)

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you cant modify the engine

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:xD

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he has just told you its locked in the engine, not in the cvars

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ofc! r_lightmap 1 should be allowed too.

go to demo and do r_ambientscale 3.

what? :x

Yes, please allow it.
Let ET look better!

not in ET i think
the art of hiding will be gone!

its cheatprotected right?

atm yes

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actually the first poll where i had difficulty to choose!

voted: no

no!

ofc
the difference is small anyway so it wont eat realisim like brightskins would so cant think of any argument why not
edit actually im not sure if 1 is not the highest possible!?
edit2 higher was possible but still not too bright

second that.

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tripple headshots are easy to survive in the real world xD

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screen plz!

ofcourse it should.

it only changes the brigthness of characters a bit.

tweaking configs till you barely see the terrain, that should be disallowed!

everyone should have at least a medium-quali config

same thing as landscape imo. Making things more unrealistic. Whether its better or for the worse it still remains not ment.

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Yes, quite loosely

As long as it's realistic, yes
if we get the red/green/blue Quake thingie, no

if you think about it, it will be quite nice :)

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as nice as this?
image: WallHack

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I don't see any RGB peaple!

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its v2

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would be awesome tbh

realistic? wtf

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yes!!!!!

avi or not exists.

screenshots added.

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jpg or it didnt happen

NO ITS LIKE HAX

yes, not as q3 666% green/whatever, but more bright models would be ok

Yes.

screenshots added :>

Yes, quite loosely

well, I don't see the difference!

EDIT: ye I see a difference, well, imo YES! its quite good

What is the difference?

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well, check that medic buddy on the first picture, its kinda dark.. and on the 2nd picture u can see what he's wearing! :)

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Ohh lol's thank you

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weren't we able to change this in the past or has it always been restricted?

Always been restricted unfortunately.

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imo its should be allowed

i want brightskins

OMG IM IN ONE OF THE SCREENSHOTSSS :DDDDD

;) :D

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were u specing the game? or were u playing xD i cant remember

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playing as rum :D

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so why didnt u come to vent u gay x(

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totally hijacking your comment with a better screenshot, made in 2006 \o/

image: ambientscale

No need, have sheep's cfg /o\

ET is already easy enough imo...

care, just allow b_simpleitems 1 in cb-config.

rivatuner should be allowed

it is, just high lodbias isnt allowed...

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yes

just slightly, takes away everything from ET if you cant try sneaking or hiding in the maps. it would become just more brainless. but yes, its annoying if you can see opponents but cant really seperate them from the background so a slight change would be a good step forward.

ET has no "dark spots" and as such there is no argument for the sneaking, players who play with stupidly high gamma have an advantage that they shouldn't have due to ambientscale gayness

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you have always been seen no matter what? using high values of ambientscale would be like brightskins and it takes a lot away from ET.

just a reminder, and situations like this arent unique: http://dec.pp.fi/avi/decem_cpc2_sneak_vs_zerobarrier.mp4

not to mention with brightskins you will be spotted for sure from behind any bush or tree. you basically just have to fling around your screen to see every opponent, you can just rush mindlessy and be skilled.

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Not really... everybody will have this advantage. And its hardly a great advantage anyway.

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lol, what does that have to do with anything? isnt it my very point, you cant hide & sneak if high values are used. it will just remove valuable aspects from the game. r_ambientscale should be used to a certain degree but definitely not make it look unnatural and stand out too much.

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agreed shouldnt have it TOO much but use it to a sensible amount tbh

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If someone is blind enough not to see you there, ambientscale won't help him!

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thats true, the example wasnt best, yet one of the most extreme !:D

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So we can disable hitsound.

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wrong reply?

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"it would become just more brainless.

Without hitsound the game is more brainy and you have the bluff in every duel. (if you see).

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you have to bluff??

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Imagine you shoot a guy without hitsound at 10 m.
Will you rush him with 60 hp ?

If you have hitsound you know if your enemy is weak or not.

More skill needed without hitsound (to be short).

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i know xD i played rtcw :) ET sucks in everyway compared to rtcw :)

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hitsounds arent that influensive. I dont really have an opinion on whether or not drop hitsounds. I wouldnt mind either way.

one thing is sure, it would mean less whine if u dont know if your bullets hit or not.

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My experience in RtCW can tell you that when you are low-mid hp you can make alot of kill, in Wolf:ET it's just about luck ! ^^

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rtcw is different, you cant hit shit with higher than 50 ping. xd

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I don't have ping problem and it is not the subjet ! :p

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neither are hitsounds or rtcw xd

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yes u can xD just not as easy :P more than 70 or 80 then ur fooked :D

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I basically always have 80, sometimes up to 100.

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only on zeh german servers for me rlly x( dont know why XD
shity orange internet ftw i guess x(

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good point, I agree.

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get simpleitems nade and arty hitsounds back and et is alive :D

+ yes r_ambientscale is fucking nice.

ofc

You can get the same effect with my cfg + powerstrip...

screenshot?

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Quitted ET a while ago I can hook you up with my cfg though, you can check powerstrip out yourself and adjust it untill you like it.

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Im not that keen, I was just interested on the look of it as I cant imagine it being too effective.

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Just very bright, I like it when everything is bright + loads of fps :P

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powerstrip is not strictly legal - just like the picmip adding program.

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You mean rivatuner.

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max 1 imo if at all.

yes dear god yes!

abientscale max 2-2,5 is okay
axis & allies @ same level of visibility

simpleitems 1

nade+support hitsounds back

+1 !

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+2

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+3

i'm using simpleitems 1 if it's allowed, like on ETTV :D

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let it be forced to 0.5 !!!!!!!!

I think 0.5 is the default.

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let it be

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thats what he wanted to say... notice "let it be"

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Voted slightly change. Nothing wrong with a little bit brighter models. But like decem says, not too much. Question then becomes what should be the max.
I'm just wondering why simple items are dissallowed? t doesn't give a certain player any type of advantage afaik.

I personally don't think this is necessary..We'll do just fine without it.

around 0.5-0.7 would be quite neat, 1 is to bright and as said in previous comments, it will make it alot harder to sneak and hide

definitely. but brightskins would be perfect!

I swear I already have such bright cfg ! I don't kno if me wants to go brighter :P I'll do the test to answer my question -

np with uberdark.cfg

FUCKING AIDS NIGGAH!

Not only r_ambientscale.

R_directscale is a similar cvar (makes the models yellowish) is also very nice. I use both for moviemaking ;)

Also cg_gun_X Y Z should be unlocked.

Same for cg_fov (would be nice to use a fov toogle to use 40/30 fov at long distance etc)

cg_fov or fog? :D

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o.O Fov obviously.

I DIDNT EDIT ANYTHING! :D

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no, thats just too much tbh... next up aimhelp 1? :p

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A fully automatic 30 rounds per clip sniper :D

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yeah that would rock! i could finally hit something!

ofcourse

after 5 years u're asking about this, pls.
n1 reflex.

crappy enemy model and crosshair btw.

still, np for me: http://pansemuckl.netcoders.cc/etBot/footage/etbot1.jpg

it doesnt change anything as it works on all dynamics objects [flag is brighter also ] so why change it?

so what if flag is brighter?

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it will only bright some objects ingame like players cp truck gold tank and in the end it will work as replacment for r_gama

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no, try it yourself.

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That's the point. So it would make the players more visible in dark maps or smth.

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No, would make hiding useless

Anyone remember the brightskins that came out for ET a while ago? From what i remember they were pink and green.

Yes. Allow us to set it to 1.

y not?

At first I was like: maybe the next step will be to allow r_normals? :D But then I realised it will make the camp in dark places less useful, and that may make the game even more... ETish. I hate realising that I was looking at the enemy for like two seconds now and hadnt shot :D

r_ambientscale shouldn't be allowed because r_mapoverbrightbits 1 is allowed.
people would use sheeps config for example with high r_ambientscale and that would make the enemies that are already really bright in certain places even more bright and the only [-] to a config like sheep is that in some places you can't see the enemy too well, when there isn't a light illuminating the enemies, r_ambientscale would fix that.

why should they disallow it :o

buy glasses if u cant see ur opponent... leave game alone

1 or 0.5

whack it on 1 much nicer, the allies become invisible as i found out last night xD

it should be like in cpma!
:XD

yea, and add such a glow on each model that you will see them shining around the corner when they lean.

r_lightmap too!

care as long as it doesnt give fps

WE NEED FREE AIMBOTS TOO!!!

pm'd

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who

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Gimme your config! :D

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Yes, quite loosely	35.1 % (452 votes)
Yes, but only a little	18.9 % (244 votes)
Not at all	17.3 % (223 votes)
Give me results!	28.6 % (369 votes)

Thompson	35.2 % (19 votes)
MP40	64.8 % (35 votes)


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