Was it right to ban teKoa for leaking anti3? | Polls

yesh

Absolutely

Absolutely.

No doubt.

Indubitably.

THAT IS NO WORD

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It is.

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In that case, my bad!

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what

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Thought that was one of those words from Killerboy in one of his discussions with you.

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yeah but he spelled it wrong and used it out of context

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I see.

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:_D

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ofc, but why doubt the decision by making a poll?

Because I'd do the same for anything semi-controversial by any other league :O)

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will we have a poll for azatej too? :D

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I saw what you did there

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NO

why no ?

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fuck, I wanted to vote No, I misread the question, pardon me jeroen :c

No it wasn't right at all, cb > crossfire when it concerns cups anyway

edit: besides I'm sure netcoders had already hacked the whole thing weeks before .. (as soon as it got released)

well then lets just say i voted no for you and you voted yes for me, i accidently voted no :P

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Quotecb > crossfire when it concerns cups anyway

wut? it's crossfire nationscup after all, or what did you mean ?

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I prefer when cb hosts a cup :P

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he dont right
im too wont user an ex-cheater program to be on my computer :d
with all the good he want to bring, i just dont trust him :(

lets say one thing
just think about it

chapleja will create a way that et will be cheater free...
then he will create a bot, and only his bot will worked...
he will be fucking rich :D
cheaters aint dying, they just replace

so since we cannot know what will happen, tekoa's actions was right cuz we cant proof if he hurt the community or not

only time will tell

Quoteits not what you know, its what you can proof

you cant proof he ruin anything, unban that dutch !

lol i thought you were funny, but you're just one more retard ^_^

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no, im right and you and other call me an idiot cuz you dont want to believe...you dont want to believe im right...

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:DDDDDDDDDd

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beside we all love tekoa and azatej :(

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u are not serious, are u?

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dont be afraid that im right...

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even if u were, it would be better that way, because then only a few guys would be haxing instead of the current situation

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what happened to yours engrish???

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should i improve it or not? :D

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If he did that, that means the anticheat program would actually have a flaw, and given the anticheat and the "chaplja cheat", any non-idiot coder would be able to replicate the cheat, which contradicts with your original assumption.

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not rly
since he will be only one with a key...
i know its hard to understand, but try to think out of the box :d

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And if that cheat appears, wouldn't everybody know who made it, so everybody would stop using our anticheat? Do you really think that's what we/he want(s)?

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now we have many bots avi
with anti3 we only have his cheat
i think we prefer his single cheat than many which are avi now :~>

think about everything !

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Don't use these complicated words, he won't understand them anyway.

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you forgot on your proud :~<!!!! Its true what you said!

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:~>
consider it done !

the only option we CAN do, is that every team leak their anti3 therefor they cant ban everyone and the managment will have to step down and unban teKoa :D

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That is the most retarded thing I've read all week :DDDDDDDD

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more than your mistake in a simple question @ math?

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By something they don't even teach over here? :_D
I could pick out hundreds of mistakes you make at simple sentences if I wanted :'~(

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problem is
math is a global languege, english isnt...
and every one know that * (multiple?) come before + (add)

idiot...

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Hardly

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please, we learn that in primary school ;D

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Different teaching to Wales

us
I know the BODMAS rule now, but Israel

mongol keeps bringing it up

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"math is a global languege, english isnt..."

English is a global language, the technical term is Lingua franca.

Your original comment is utterly laughable, do you've any concept of logic? He broke the terms and conditions of the cup he was participating in. If he had a problem using an anti-cheat developed by a former cheat-developer then he had the choice not to play, simple as.

"so since we cannot know what will happen, tekoa's actions was right cuz we cant proof if he hurt the community or not"

If it's illegal to carry a gun and you carry a gun, you're liable to be punished. Your logic, with my example, is something like - "he was carrying a gun but since he didn't shoot anyone he shouldn't be punished".

Your opinion, logic and English is utterly retarded.

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i read your contax
you took things from their place
you are the one who is wrong

re-read
and prospert :~>

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You're either horrifically naive or just plain stupid, your comments have no substance whatsoever. Stop avoiding the truth by spraying your misinformed prejudice across my screen and actually read the comments I and others leave.

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i read
and you all wrong and im right
thats final.

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Go back to school, kid.

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i finished school you small mug

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Damn, you're really stupid.

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thats wasnt nice :(
too bad you are not the same as your sister :d

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I didn't know that one single person can be so ignorant and produce so much senseless bullshit that isn't even relying to the comment it's replying to. Ignored.

I'm not gonna watch your comments anymore, write what you want. Just think about your behaviour and how retarded you make yourself look everytime you post a comment.

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you know, calling me retarded will automatic makes the one who called me retarded a ratarded :D

i guess your sister took all the kindness in the family :d
and you are like an angry orc :D

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hahahahahha :DDDD
You really don't realize what a retard you're making of yourself, do you? Go back to school and learn english man, I mean, my english might be bad, but yours is just a mess! And well, maybe brainsurgery would be a worthwhile investigation too.
And if you're in the israelian army, that army is just a joke, in other countries people must meet minimal intelligence requirements to gain the ability to go to army, and you're not even capable of discussing about any simple topic normally. Your army must be either israel's chump meeting point, or they've put you into the inbred-section.

Damn, I love seeing stupid people making fools out of themselves :D

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actually i pass all tests to become a jet pilot
the most hard tests in the israelian army
btw im sure you know the israeli airforce is the best in the world?
the last joint operation were in turky, with pilots from germany and italy and more
and we fucking rape you all

HAHAHAHA

oh noes! the jew wont speak proper english !
he might be stupid
well i can teach you, and your whole family zLOL

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Haha, idiot.

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;D

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but there wont be any netcoders anymore...some new guys are welcome =D

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Well looks like your competive gaming in ET has come to an end.

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why is that? :D

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Well this new anti cheat program is the future, if you don't keep up with the times then its over for you

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like i said, not using anti3 because of me is one thing, what they did is something totally different.

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then nC will code another anticheat, which detects chapljas hack & then make another hack, which is undetected by their anticheat and so on and so on

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u r right, tard.

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Did you understand a single word of what he just said?

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Using polls for complex questions fails :'( Afaik tekoa didnt spam his own client link. Aza spammed his link after which tekoa joined in on the tardparty and spammed aza's link.

Its like back in the days when CB had links which autologged you in. I once posted some link to whatever and anyone who read the journal could access my CB account and mess around. Can you really blame those ppl? People should be held responsible for their own client accounts, not somebody elses. Its Aza's client, not Tekoa's.

They way the poll question is asked I would say: Yes. After reading some of tekoa's comments and checking some irc logs I'd say: No.

Both clients where leaked. Had teKoa not spammed the links I could believe he was just "checking to see if they where the same" and aza was a retard (nothing new) - but now, whether rightly or wrongly - he's no leg to stand on.

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If its Tekoa's client link, he should be banned too yes.

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Actually the way it started was Aza spamming the client link, but keeping most of the numbers secret by stars (this way it would take someone willing to crack it 10000+ attempts, if I'm not wrong). Then teKoa responded to that by posting the last 3 numbers.

If I got that right, that is.

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nice hating your e-friends!

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yup

Ofc :)

Unambiguously.

Yes to disqualify and no to ban.

agrred

*edit* yes to ban

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why the edit? :D

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banning someone is never wrong

:D

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its wrong if he didnt know, but if he knew its justified

Of course he knew :_D

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well i didnt know :D

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Yes.

sorry but to be honest we will never know why they spamed their links... it could be stupidy or they were trying to hide sth,,,,

Yes, if he rly wanted to protest he just shouldve refused to play - and not leak anti-cheat software.

+11

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i don't understand :

you get your own anti 3 client before match ,it has it's own ID / GUID for each person.
Then you stick with this one ? or you get new one every match ?

Tekoa + Aza -- they posted their almost full guids/id's of personal anti3 client.
so happens now ? someone can log as them and fake them ?

if cheater gets anti3 before match ,puts that into clean et folder ,plays match ,after that
gives his details to nC + his mates do the same .
assuming last paragraph : anyone can leak it to nC ?

the problem is that I don't understand how it works so ive just written what I understood.

if Im correct , they have no influence on anti3 being leaked to nC ,as anyone can get it and hand over to coders.

PLZ NO FLAME !

fucking idiots

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NO!

There is no download link.
Use the search function

no!

FU i wanted to vote ''no'':<

Ofcourse they should be banned.

Rules are the same for anyone. If they agreed to keep it to themseleves, and then they leak it like this...

No. Just because it's the one and only tekoa himself.

The rules say yes, and rules should be followed by admins.

But imo, if an anti cheat client is that bad that all things should be done to prevent leaking to the cheatcoders don't use it.

Ofc some retards will leak the download link, and this time it weren't the poles it were the damn retarded anime dutchies. And I think gnajda already gave them his Anti3 client tbh.

what do u not understand in chaplja statment: every client has his own architecture?

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someone gave them a 6+ months old version. you're posting this comment for the Nth time, so i'll reply here as well :F

http://www.crossfire.nu/?x=news&mode=item&id=3321#comment164040
http://www.crossfire.nu/?x=news&mode=item&id=3321#comment164044

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100% yes :)

shouldve banned em for a year!

you are retarded

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if im retarded what does that make you? :)

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A normal person

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copy/pasted from your profile:

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Banned 7x from CF

says enuf :)

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What has being banned to do with this ?

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if u dont know then i cant help u :)

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Yeh cuz you don't know it yourself rofl

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k

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make a better Anti3 client with antileak stuff?

Name a software in this world that has never been leaked. A game? An OS? Anything!

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+1 =)

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it doesnt mean it cant be the first one to be like that
;K

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I just showed him that it's really really hard to make an antileak system. Security through obscurity will never work. What aza and tekoa did is really retarded imo.

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there is..

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Which?

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ag0n mami

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damn i voted accidently yes instead of no :(

noob

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true :<

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a highskill moron, is still a moron.

ofc NO

why ofc ?

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banning the Netherlands from the cup is enough already ffs.

Like NetCoders will never get this cheat lol. And like they never read xfire lol.

more likelyu one of the players using anti3 who is an NC customer supplied them with it - so they can still use there hacks.

this is a stupid thing to happen, spamming it and banning a player to do so - unless there were set rules saying no public release of any kind then its not right to ban.

If otherwise, perhaps a ban should happen - but not hearing someone defend themselves is ridiculous - we need someone to get a interview or something ;p

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teKoa was spoke to before any decision was made, they leaked around 8 got banned @ 11.

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someone correct me if i'm wrong, but AFAIK .NL did not get banned. from what i've heard, they just forfeited the match due to not having enough players after losing these 2

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my fault :'( i had bad intel and fucked up some stuff in my newspost which i later edited out :/

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no

banning a pro and one of the friendliest players as Netherlands

teKoa is never justified!

Banning pro is idd forbidden thing to do!

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On clanbase it is.

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then he should respect the cup and its rules. simple as

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true, teKoa is one of the few players who deserves a little more credit

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cf - taking all like a joke and giving a s*** on other people work

Well don't you think it won't be leaked by a real cheater if he has to play with it?

In a community like this there should be something for antileak, else nC or smth will get it anyway

That's the point - surely the only assumption one can make is either tekoa and / or aza are cheating, why else leak? (Not that I'm implying they cheat - just the logic to be used)

Analogy being used be an athlete missing a drugs test - presumption of guilt.

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True, that he doesn't want to play with something chaplja created is one point, but to leak it and to ruin it for his team (+ the community) is just no style..

I agree with the ban tho, if you don't punish him for this chances are bigger that he will do it again

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Whoever voted no is a fucking retard

shit :<

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Omg Tele pm admin get it changed!!!!!

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so basically they did the same as the polack who shared information with netcoders ( forgot his name ), amiright?
in this case they both should be banned for a lifetime.

No!

Yes! I always suspected him hacking in kreaturen, and pls in idle he was way to fucking obvious!

you wasnt even around when he played in |K| :(

but still he is quite obvious :DD

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you know me too well ;((

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Absolutely.

NEVER

the sad thing is that in the 3v3 WC, where ~40 teams participated, it was leaked only once, and that by a known cheater. it has just started to be used in Crossfire NC and alraedy done by two players you would never think would do it

3on3 players are saner :)

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how do you know when someone leaks it?

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it gets logged when you download it. plus, each download link has a unique 10-digit number in it just so you can't guess it and download someone's anti3 (10^10 combinations). the links they spammed matched the secret numbers which we can see in the anti3 cpanel

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like it is impossible to send it over msn/reupload etc..

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that's why we log who is using it as well.

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ban perfo again

ummm ban TeKoa? wut?

need 'wat?' or 'care' option!

who cares about leaking

Once they downed it they could also leak it by sending them via msn or anything so why would they bother giving them the direct download link which makes them busted at once, they could have done it silently...
Or how do you prevent that kind of leaking?

I'm not gonna vote there's no "I DONT CARE LULZ" option. No, though.

Yes ofcourse.

no !

banning teKoa instead of other morons (like you) is biggest failure by crossfire ever.
there is "few" admins who could ban them self instead of players like teKoa.

gj fucktards

:D

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We have another fanboi right here LOLLED

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how can you not be a fanboy of the mighty idle player tekoa....??

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I used to like him until he became a retard.

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[...] on the 8th day, God created a retard [...]

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... and his name was kRONE.

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should i change my name coz it WAS

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how can u act so retarded nowadays?

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just everything what such a community deserves

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guys like you are the reason for that though.

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oh.. i thought i am just a random refresher of crossfire, but okay m8. didn't know that i have a power to ban ppl like i did for teKoa!

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I wasnt talking about tekoa, I was talking about you.

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so you talk about me "ahaaa". How i m more retarded than i have been before?

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nevermind, guess I was wrong when I thought I could actually start a conversation.

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you better not start a converation if you dont even know a shit about shit .
case closed

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lets pretend that what you wrote was english and then I agree.

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like it was unreadable. still wondering why ppl like you're studying till you turn 30

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just because I can talk english doesnt mean im going to study till im 30. Im most likely going to study till im 22. I have no idea where youre getting this stuff.

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and that 30 was a random example.

i will try to specify more things like that, so even you can understand

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oh please...

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What the fuck is that language? D:

Yes.

AAAAAAAAA youre all kanker jews...

Agree?;(

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there will be always cheaters till everyone stop paying them (which won't happen)

Yes. Though I suppose Azatej is the main culprit here.

wow! I'm retard also :D

Warning Level: 90 / 100

GJ

Oops, I did it again

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tekoa .....

I think you need to brush up on that engirsh of yours, yoda

Everything is allowed which isn't forbidden

Mine > yours skiddddddddy

looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool ok skiddy

skiddies = retards

You're no hacker :{

It's seriously sad to ban him.

NOOO.

lol ok

because he is acting stupid you could kick and ban
him but if you warn him and give him an second change
he will never do it again belief me!!

Explain your opinion please, why is it ok to leak software you're clearly not allowed to?

He's english you retard :DDDDDD
(welsh to be exact)

Jerooooooo ! hoi

Erm
I don't know if you missed that, but atm it rather looks like you're the stupid one. And btw, using the same saw over and over again isn't either cool nor creative...

Hmm strange, azatej is an owner of netCoders, so i think thats the right time to ban :)

give meh proofs at pm plx :D

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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA :DDD

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:XD

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Absolutely.

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