If Crossfire had proper forums, would you use them?

The current forums leave a lot to be desired, leading to them being the little brother of journals. But would you use them if they were proper forums (such as vBulletin), where we could have specific forums catering to what the users wanted? Such as: Current Affairs, Spam (funny pictures and videos), Recruitment, Polish forum, German forum, Dutch forum, etc. to name but a few.
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Yes, why not?
No thx
Might prove popular if users didn't have to create new accounts and we had forums for Current Affairs, Spam (funny pictures and videos), Recruitment, Polish forum, German forum, Dutch forum, etc. etc.
nop. I have other places for vbulletin.

Atm it's great and works good. It's very compendious
To all those answering yes: When I say 'use' I mean use actively, in the same way that journals are used now, and not 'use' like the current forums are used - because in my opinion, those are quite a disaster!

And no, this is not intended to replace journals.
vbulletin is rubbish, it's just confusing.
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'Twas just an example, friend!
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'M not your fwend, buddy!
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ur crazy, VB> all
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I miss the "maybe" option
I don't! Get off the fence. ;)
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If I'd say, I'd use it sometimes if it's better than it is now (i dont use it at all now) would u say thats a yessssss
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Crossfire is your life, of course you would.
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drunk sol is drunk
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Yes but then the journals should be restricted... f.e. not allow journals dealing with things that'd belong into a forum section :X
not in form of a standalone forum
Define standalone. What if you could use your existing Crossfire account?
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standalone means to me you click on it and get directed to a complete new page which has nothing in common with crossfire but the name.

yeah using the existing account would be nice, but the forum should still be in the current design, especially the comments should still be nice and small like they are now without any signature/avatar crap.

and somehow it should attract users the same way journals do now, like implementing a liveticker of current topics.
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Delete the fucking CDC 3 and CDC 4 part of the forum and we'll talk. Seriously how can that still be up there?
Definetly.

I was actually going to suggest a similar setup a while ago. I tend to steer clear of the "real" part of the Crossfire forums and just tend to look at the newest topics atm, however i'd use them alot more if they were set up diferently - as you said vBulletin. IPB would also be a viable solution.

Should probably include forums like; A general/ Offtopic forum, Gaming/ Technology/Computers etc etc, Recruitment, Music/movies/entertainment, and then specific country forums if you wanted to take it that far.
Sean decides
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no1 cares what u think imo, hacker!
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sean.avi .... soon
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Would be nice, since serious topics which could have been discussed for weeks always gets pushed down by some randompic spam-journal or recruitment thread as it is now.
So it would both make the random stuff less annoying, and provide a nice frame for more serious discussions.

+1!
Delete journals and we're good. After all it's only a big offtopic section for everyone.
No, let it be like this.
Current "journal" system of forums is the best you can get. I like it much more than forums system. Adding to this replys system makes it perfect.
If it's the best you can get then why are the forums completely underused in relation to the rest of the site? The only active topics are the most recent ones, and they only have a life-span of a day at best.
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1. Access to the forums is wrong. You need to click few times to get what you want. And that for a regular crossfire user is too much and so that he prefers to click on one of the journals.

2. Regular crossfire user is more interested in fun stuff, junk-talking, therefore he prefers journals over forums.

3. Regular crossfire user feel 'respect' for an institution which forum is. He considers forums are 'serious business' like mainly recruitment or some technical problems or admin stickies or anything else that actually has some value.

4. There is unformal division of crossfire on: spam - journals, and serious business - forums. Regular crossfire user prefers spam. Thus bigger usage of journals.

Why changing would be a drawback?
Why you think crossfire is so popular? Because of the system of posting, that is different from the one forums present. No avatars, no big boxes, no stupid icons, etc. Just simple, visible lines.

About the life-span of a topic.
Simply changing to vBulletin wouldnt help as it would only change the appearance (which is - subjectively - far worse than crossfire journal system's appearance) and wouldnt even touch the problem of lifespan of topics. In my opinion its mainly the matter of an access to topics. If you have an idea of reconstructing the 'Forums' panel, you might be home.

Hope it helps.
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Points 2, 3 & 4 are basically the same point, and if you read the poll you'd see that we could also facilitate those 'fun' posts - AKA spam in the forums too.

Regarding your 1st point, if it was done in the right way, that wouldn't (shouldn't) be an issue.
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having one per language is taking it a bit too far i think (mainly cause they can read english and i cant read theirs)
The 3 languages listed are certainly the more popular of foreign languages among our userbase. Needless to say, we won't be featuring Swahili forums if this does come about.
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Nataka kuandika kiswahili! :<
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shame, i was looking forward to learning a few swahili insults
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mzungu in the mist.
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it's swahili and the proper and non-racistic term for white men.
The phrase is used a lot in the Southern parts of Africa (Zimbabwe, Namibia, Malawi etc etc.) and it means like:

White men (tourists in general) don't have a clue what to expect (they are lost.) :D
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It's even more common in east africa I'd say :)

Yes, it's a proper term for "white person", but it doesn't have any further connotations to it (at least not in east africa). Tourists or white people who've lived there all their lives, they're still called mzungus.
The dictionary translation of it is "european", but in practice it's used on all white persons.

And I don't see how it would be read as an insult, they all want to be white and treat whites like movie stars :P

Dunno about southern africa though, the term might have different connotations there (whites aren't as popular in zimbabwe e.g.). But in the main swahili-speaking countries (Tanzania, Kenya, Uganda, etc), I wouldn't say mzungu is a negative term in any way.
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Perhaps I could not explain myself very well. It's right that the word mzungu has no negative connections to it at all.


I've only been to Southern Africa (SA en Namibia) though.
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to view the results only?
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Just answer the question to see them. You'd either use them or you wouldn't.
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Hell no
NO
real forum and cf = does not compute
journals>forums
leave the forums as they are, there isn't anything wrong with it. its just that admins keep stickying 5 posts it gets messy. just make a smaller tab below it for cups and announcements

btw, don't mess around with the current cf design, its one of things that made it a success
It's easy to navigate at the site atm so no :D
yes need better forum !
journals > *
crossfire do it though not using free-ware ;p
Yes. As long as CF keeps the "recent comments" and latest topics & journals it's all fine. (vast majority of CF only looks there anyways.)
no, that would be killing crossfire.. the easynaz on this site makes this site so awesome :)
To put minds at ease, we where discussing this last night and...

(00:00:25) <01@TosspoT> mess with journals over my dead body :P

Journals won't be touched - the options here are on improving a section of the site currently not up to much :) I think a rejig of the current setup would suffice - don't think your standard forum would work well here.
No.

There's enough for me to read on here now, creates more spam and there's already a 'forum' on here. I am in favour of having a PL part of Crossfire so they can all ramble on about their stuff in there {:
If you vote no, do you automatically say that you like things how they are now?
need random option!
Yes and why not the Cup "News.Infos" in a special case? Which get called "Cups" ?
yes, but cf should stay in the same "style" if you know what i mean
I guess I would use them but I think it wouldn't be such a good idea anyway. It might distract many users we got atm, and larger forum base (for different languages etc) would affect the internationality when ppl considered more on their own language sections. So I don't like this idea, sry.
with language side sorted forums you would most likely on one hand stop the nationality based harassment, but on the other hand split the community into many fractions, leaving it also mostlikely more inactive as it is now:x

--> I'd keep the current layout as it is.
I'm too much used to this one to start "getting used" to something else.
For the German or Polish forum etc, I don't think it would change anything unless you passworded them. People would still be making comments where their not wanted.

Also, I was thinking about it, and for a recruitment section, why not have a sticky with a list of clans needing players and cless players?

Example:

Player:
Med, 17, Irish, fops/medic. /query Bilgrim

Team:
Med, English speaking, fops, have servers. /query Superman

Making it quicker and easier for players to find teams. Just a thought :P
every idea such as this fails over and over, and people suggest it over and over
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hmm maybe an option in a clans profile to set to 'recruiting', then create a list displaying these clans that players could search (segregate game / format / nationality)
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Sounds like a good idea, Nellie.

Not really sure how you could announce it though, maybe through a page like the "popular" page under My Crossfire as opposed to a forum stickie. If a clan tick a box in their profile saying that they are recruiting - a link to their clan page would appear in the "Recruitment" Page for example.

Same could go for players too i guess, although that could be abused..
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Too bad that you only talk about superdupersignificant improvements, srsly i can't remember any serious change at the last year :/
what is missing?
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Acces to the admin forum for Moderators! And a calender for cups etc :<
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or a lame moderators forum for you lot that we can spy on ;D
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I'll plan my crossfire take over from there then!
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i know what's missing!
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I echo fusens comment, what is missing.
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Comment downranking :( Although it would only be abused.
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If they were moderated well, sure it'd be a great success. It'd take a lot more work to keep tidy than the current system though.
NOOOOOOOO! Crossfire has a forum............, this one. Its better than any other forum i know. We don't need stupid smilies, a profile pic and some other irrelevant nonsense OMG

LESS IS MORE

TY
CF is fun enough already as it is. Just leave it like that.
Nope, would be boring as fuck.
fuck you browsing crossfire but not on msn fuck die duck
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no, would take too much effort to find interesting stuff
yeah ofc
nooooooooooooooooooo at least have a choice!

Just got used to this one after 4 years...
define the difference of a crossfire journal & a forum. Honestly half time I'm clueless on which I should use.
I guess so, but I kinda like it this way :-)
YEEEEES
NO leave it like this or you may add some new things ofc but dont abuse it else it will be so cunfusing :( and rubbish..
the current forum is not a "forum", but more like "serious journals" with categories. one feature a FORUM requires is thread ordering by latest post, IMO. without that, it will never be more than a journal clone. when i think more, that's the only thing that needs to be changed to current forums.. but then again, this is crossfire, spam gets posted all the time - as usual, interesting stuff would disappear due to morons who would find it funny to bump old threads nobody cares about :X
avi @ polish board mdoerator
it's good atm.
journals keeping you from any real use of the written stuff > *
What's wrong with these we have now?
yes, poker forum would be epic
No the mental age of the average user of this site would just make it 80 pages of epic flame per topic.
Forums would be nice. Guess I will be using them aza well as the rest of the site.
Quake live forum would be great!
mh well, i guess you wont get the same "feeling" in an extern forum like on/in here. i mean the simple comment/reply system is just great, as some other guys already said, we dont need the avatar, much icons etc shit. D: i wonder how you want to change the comment system on news and stuff, or does this stay the same?
of course
not
Leave it as it is.
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Journals!
ofc. its terrible now
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