why are so many people underrestimating turkey?
im not saying they are favourites (croats play very nice) but still they were always good, technically skilled team and as you may have noticed - this pays off at current tournament.
same goes to romania but apparently they didnt go out of the group (their own fault, should win both or at least one of two matches against champion and vicechampion of the world).
They had no chance against Portugal, played not well against Switzerland. The performance of Turkey in the first 75 against an average team like Czech was bad. Of course, it was amazing how they could turn around the 2 matches and this will be their only chance - the confidence caused by those 2 matches, next to the underdog role.
Their defense isn't even average. They have to replace important players. A playoff match can go any way, but I don't see them having a chance against Croatia.
I think it will be a quite boring and "controlled" win for Croatia with 2 goals difference.
my conclusion from those last-minute-comebacks would be that if they want they can do it from the beggining, they had just prefered to start the match with a defence. same was tonight, only thing that croatia also didnt want to open themselves in order to attack.
You have to agree that it was the poor predicted performance of Turkey. Croatia just had to win this, but they made the mistake to let them curb down to Turkey's bad level, so they missed to decide the game.
But you gave them a chance, I didn't. You were right, me not. :P
watching Croatia play, its boring. all they seem to do is stop opponents playing (which of course, is a good tactic) but its not like they can play themselves. Bilic puts his defending mentality into this I feel.
Turkey on the other hand are unpredictable, in the 3 matches they played they played differently tactically, they seem very adaptive which is nice. they have no real weakness but they lack perhaps full team strength - and they lose their GK to suspension. Theyve got better in ever game - and Kazim-Richards is quality for his age, I can see him getting nabbed by a prem team.
unsure on this one, turkey rout/Croatia win by one goal.
Will be finished after 90 mins thats for sure, I feel.
it's only been like that now in the tournament, we played so nicely and attractive in the qualis, but now they're playing just to win, since that's all you have to do on a tournament like this
but it's also the truth that when the actual tournament comes, some kind of fear gets into them since '98, we always owned in the qualis but when we would come to the tournament itself, we would suck hard
so this is kind of an improvement, not playing beautifully but finally managing to beat someone
yea Croatia have done well of course, but right now its not attractive football, and in this touney thats all I care for, as I dont support anyone there ;D
I guess losing Eduardo hurt their creativity aswell.
you obviously know shit, I don't know who you've been watching but you're oh so wrong, we NEVER played to hurt anyone, you're just jealous because your team is shit
in the times of prosinecki, boban, asanovic, suker itd. croatia was one of few european teams whos football was beautiful, I agree that sometimes during the years our football was crap, but if anything, it was always imaginative and nice to watch, now on the euro they can't afford to play so loosely and relaxed for obvious reasons
Indeed. Croatia is just playing physical, what is a normal and needed part of football (greets to Portugal). It's just a cliche, Croatia was one of the fairest teams in the qualification afaik.
ol i dont like turkey,so croatia should win
but thats also the reason because of which i hope they will pass so we can bash them in the half final :o (sry for this somehow engrish sentence o_O)
i really hope that croatia wins. a) germany has then a chance to pay back the groupstage loss b) a halffinal game turkey - germany will end up in massacres @ public viewing in germany....
I don't think we will see many goals. Croatia has played defensive till now and they won't change that. Turkey won't wanna run into any counters, so they will be careful too, at least untill they get behind.
the worst match, they both don't deserve a place in the semifinal... sad that someone will win, I would like to see them both loosing because of this shit gamestyle
did I say anything about Poland? play more for 0:0 (defence + counter attacks only for most of the time), but remember that penalty kicks mean 'lotto', not skill
wtf match
119 minutes of boring football, last minute and 2 gools
then penalty shootout and the red fuckers had again BIG LUCK and won, they rly dont deserve it!
Nice to see for Turkey, who really fought like lions.
But they didn't deserve it at all. They had a poor performance in the offense and Croatia missed their chances. But Croatia doesn't need to complain...it's their own fault that they didn't use their quality advantage, especially because the defense of Turkey didn't look much better than their poor offense. They really had to make it within the 90 minutes or at least in 120 minutes.
Poor Croatians, but their own fault.
I don't see any chance for Turkey to beat Germany. Especially after all the banned and injured players. But that's their chance. Very, very, very dangerous situation for us.
You didnt give any chances to Turkey before this match too.
You make the same mistake. Because at this stage of tournament every score is expected to be honest and saying that team A will surely close them in their penalty area is just boasting the team you like more.
If you want to see weak defence, just watch some matches of Poland. Because Turkish one didnt make any big mistake. And remember that some Turkish players will come back to team (these with 2xyellow had to miss only one match).
Yes Turks didnt engage too many players into offence but Croatia did the same. Both sides stayed closed safely in their halfs, Croatia thanks to wonderful Modric and a little better technique skills created few ocassions for scoring a goal but that was way NOT enough to say that Turks were worse in the match and that it was undeserved.
Croatian goal was scores by mistake of Turkish goalkeeper, Turkish goal was shot because Croatian defenders were already in the bathroom taking shower...
I agree that Croatia lost by their own fault, but in my opinion last stupidity would be saying "germany in final", like rise did, just because Germany won the day earlier against weak Portuguese players (and the most overrated player ever) who, when attacking, came to 16-20th meter and didnt really know what to do with a ball...
looool best match so far... croatia was so sure about their victory when they made a goal at the last minute :D, but no! turkey rises at last seconds :D
There was a team which thought that they can't loose versus Turkey... they are at home now. Would be really funny to see Germany making the same mistake, but I think they are too skilled for it.
Czech Republic, was this one really so hard to guess? 2:0, after that 2:1 and 2:3 in the last few minutes... Maybe they are not on top now, but their ego is still high.
They can change the saying "Football is a simple game; 22 men chase a ball for 90 minutes and at the end, the Germans win." to "Football is a simple game; 22 men chase a ball for 90 minutes and at the end, the Turkish win."
You guys are really fucked. I can understand danL and other Croats, but the rest of you who are saying that Turkey didnt deserve is really fucked up. Wake up and check out if you surely watched the Euro 2008 Turkey-Croatia match or it was some replay on the wrong channel... Face it, they didnt play badly, they didnt play too well but Croatia didnt show much more. Then Turks were punished for having bad goalskeeper and then they had some small lotto but cmon - IF IT IS HAPPENING EVERY SINGLE MATCH - IT MUST BE NOT ONLY LUCK - face it.
Im not saying they will win agaisnt Germany but I really hope with all my heart that they will bash them so that people like rise_ will get the reason to jump from the high bridge on the head into water and trash on the bottom of it...
think you're missing the point, yes we were bad, but the turks were worse, can you remember one clear chance for goal by turkey? I can remember only the long shot in the first half, nothing else, whilst we had 4 by olic, 2 by kranjcar, 2 by rakitic...only thing the turks can do is pressure, fucking hell even the austrians and polaks had more goal chances vs us
You're whining sir. That's what I think. Of course we can't have an intelligent conversation "WE R ON THE CROSSFIRE INTERNETLOL". And what you said about us was totally a negative image that you gave from us. That's why I replied to you like this.
But still, well played to your team. It was a close game and I'd like to see more games like that :).
you are really funny guy, it seems like you dont know a shit about football, I myself played football for 6 years. football isnt about who has more chances on goal, it's about who DOES the goals.
I played football for almost 12 years, have you never played a match where your team was better but couldn't win? if that is the case then I have to wonder what kind of football did you play
well then lets take a look to the penalty's. we scored them all and the croats missed 2 and rüstü saved one ?
lets talk about the referee a bit :p every single person that isnt blind did see that the referee was against us + he didnt gave 2 penalty's 1 of them was a penalty for sure no doubt but ye maybe the other one wasnt. first half i realy thougt that the croats where better cozz they played good but we where good also. remember our important players didnt play like servet cetin , volkan demirel. the goal that the croats scored was rustu's fault i dont fucking know why he didnt stay in his goal fucking faglord
Your goal keeper was great, I don't see what Volkan would do much better. It would be the same. Croatia deserved the lost due there ignorance and overconfidents IMO.
If that was the case danL, you should of scored earlier on in the game. Becuase you didn't, you have to face the consequences mate, and that is effectively, going out.
turkey played shit, croatia played shit too, but they were a bit better and so they deserved the win.
but on wednesday they will fail anyway,so this is np
TÜRKIYE TÜRKIYE TÜRKIYE TÜRKIYE TÜRKIYE TÜRKIYE TÜRKIYE TÜRKIYE TÜRKIYE TÜRKIYE TÜRKIYE TÜRKIYE TÜRKIYE TÜRKIYE TÜRKIYE TÜRKIYE TÜRKIYE TÜRKIYE TÜRKIYE TÜRKIYE TÜRKIYE TÜRKIYE TÜRKIYE TÜRKIYE TÜRKIYE
I honestly hope the final is going to be NL vs TUR. So I can go watch it on the big screen in town and when Holland wins, laugh at turkish people, and then kick in their head.
btw:
Unbegreiflich waren auch die Meldungen, die nach dem türkischen Triumph über die Ticker liefen. In der türkischen Stadt Gaziantep wurde ein Mann bei Freudenschüssen von einer Kugel am Kopf getroffen und erlag seinen Verletzungen.
Weitere 16 Menschen seien verletzt worden, zwei von ihnen schwer, berichtete eine türkische Nachrichtenagentur. Auch ein zehnjähriges Kind wurde von einem Querschläger getroffen.
Translation:
Unbelievable were the news running down the ticker after the turkish triumph. In the turkish city Gaziantep a man got hit by a bullet right in his head during shots of joy(?) and died on his wounds.
Other 16 people got wounded, 2 of them heavy, said a turkish news agency. Also a ten year old kid was hit by a ricochet.
Croatia vs 
Turkey.
im not saying they are favourites (croats play very nice) but still they were always good, technically skilled team and as you may have noticed - this pays off at current tournament.
same goes to romania but apparently they didnt go out of the group (their own fault, should win both or at least one of two matches against champion and vicechampion of the world).
Their defense isn't even average. They have to replace important players. A playoff match can go any way, but I don't see them having a chance against Croatia.
I think it will be a quite boring and "controlled" win for Croatia with 2 goals difference.
But you gave them a chance, I didn't. You were right, me not. :P
2nd there will be a winner after 90 minutes
Turkey on the other hand are unpredictable, in the 3 matches they played they played differently tactically, they seem very adaptive which is nice. they have no real weakness but they lack perhaps full team strength - and they lose their GK to suspension. Theyve got better in ever game - and Kazim-Richards is quality for his age, I can see him getting nabbed by a prem team.
unsure on this one, turkey rout/Croatia win by one goal.
Will be finished after 90 mins thats for sure, I feel.
it's only been like that now in the tournament, we played so nicely and attractive in the qualis, but now they're playing just to win, since that's all you have to do on a tournament like this
but it's also the truth that when the actual tournament comes, some kind of fear gets into them since '98, we always owned in the qualis but when we would come to the tournament itself, we would suck hard
so this is kind of an improvement, not playing beautifully but finally managing to beat someone
I guess losing Eduardo hurt their creativity aswell.
in the times of prosinecki, boban, asanovic, suker itd. croatia was one of few european teams whos football was beautiful, I agree that sometimes during the years our football was crap, but if anything, it was always imaginative and nice to watch, now on the euro they can't afford to play so loosely and relaxed for obvious reasons
same thing now with modric and kranjcar
2:1 for Croatia
BB Moluckenpack!
but thats also the reason because of which i hope they will pass so we can bash them in the half final :o (sry for this somehow engrish sentence o_O)
no, we didn't, we failed to do so by losing to brazil and drawing with japan and australia
and I'm afraid we could get owned due to being overconfident
must have been a semi loss in there :P
my bad for only glancing :p
!!!!
5:4 for croatia after penalties...
siktir git croatia!
I'd say
imo cro is better atm, because
1. turkey has around 5 players who cant play (injured or red/2x yellow cards)
2. turkey has a good offense but the defence sucks tbh.
BUT
they can still take it if they play like in the 2nd halftime of last game.
if they fight and have a bit luck they can reach the semifinal imo.
so...cro will take it but i hop tr wins :P
STICKY: COR VS TLR
wtf :<
izy 4 CRO!
Indeed.
OOPS - forgot the last 15 minutes - 3-2 turkey.
EDIT: ROFL
I laugh my ass out, if Rustü will be the man of the match after the penatly shootout with such a bad performance.
TÜRKIYEEEE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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edit:holy shit^^
prepare to get bashed from germany :X
TÜRKIYEEEE TÜRKIYEEEE TÜRKIYEEEE TÜRKIYEEEE TÜRKIYEEEE TÜRKIYEEEE TÜRKIYEEEE TÜRKIYEEEE TÜRKIYEEEE TÜRKIYEEEE TÜRKIYEEEE TÜRKIYEEEE TÜRKIYEEEE
<3
I lold
you didn't deserve to win
face it
Dont forget vs. Swiss!
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I see your nick suits you well
and you'll be out pretty soon ;))))))))
:DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
I don't see "HI I AM A LOTTO FUCKFACE" written on him so the pic must be fake?
noob
let them die togheter!
this is your punishment. I CAN SEE PAIN IN YOUR EYES. LET IT BE FOR A WHILE AHAHAHAHAAHAHHA!!!
119 minutes of boring football, last minute and 2 gools
then penalty shootout and the red fuckers had again BIG LUCK and won, they rly dont deserve it!
won't happen against
Nice to see for Turkey, who really fought like lions.
But they didn't deserve it at all. They had a poor performance in the offense and Croatia missed their chances. But Croatia doesn't need to complain...it's their own fault that they didn't use their quality advantage, especially because the defense of Turkey didn't look much better than their poor offense. They really had to make it within the 90 minutes or at least in 120 minutes.
Poor Croatians, but their own fault.
I don't see any chance for Turkey to beat Germany. Especially after all the banned and injured players. But that's their chance. Very, very, very dangerous situation for us.
You make the same mistake. Because at this stage of tournament every score is expected to be honest and saying that team A will surely close them in their penalty area is just boasting the team you like more.
If you want to see weak defence, just watch some matches of Poland. Because Turkish one didnt make any big mistake. And remember that some Turkish players will come back to team (these with 2xyellow had to miss only one match).
Yes Turks didnt engage too many players into offence but Croatia did the same. Both sides stayed closed safely in their halfs, Croatia thanks to wonderful Modric and a little better technique skills created few ocassions for scoring a goal but that was way NOT enough to say that Turks were worse in the match and that it was undeserved.
Croatian goal was scores by mistake of Turkish goalkeeper, Turkish goal was shot because Croatian defenders were already in the bathroom taking shower...
I agree that Croatia lost by their own fault, but in my opinion last stupidity would be saying "germany in final", like rise did, just because Germany won the day earlier against weak Portuguese players (and the most overrated player ever) who, when attacking, came to 16-20th meter and didnt really know what to do with a ball...
As I said, every score is expected to be honest
could you see how defenders didnt want to pass to him even a simple ball? :D they prefered to leave it at out or risk passing to the side ;-)
he is old and will soon die and its only experience what made him defend those penalties, but still, he behaved like a last pussy in 119'
VIVA TURKEY !!
12154365756734231 delta guys standing around, np
turkey didnt deserved it tbh
but croatia rly suxed ²
was rly lucky match tbh xD
they will get owned against germany i know...but maybe they win again in the last second :D:D:D:D:D
this gonna be a rly lol match ;) <3<3<333
Im not saying they will win agaisnt Germany but I really hope with all my heart that they will bash them so that people like rise_ will get the reason to jump from the high bridge on the head into water and trash on the bottom of it...
want to see the biggest ownage ever?
here you go
hf wasnt a bad match afterall :D
you guys are all seriously stupid and without any sense for intelligent discussion, but for some reason I'm not surprised at all
But still, well played to your team. It was a close game and I'd like to see more games like that :).
turkish intelligence pops out!
guess you don't play football
you are really funny guy, it seems like you dont know a shit about football, I myself played football for 6 years. football isnt about who has more chances on goal, it's about who DOES the goals.
lets talk about the referee a bit :p every single person that isnt blind did see that the referee was against us + he didnt gave 2 penalty's 1 of them was a penalty for sure no doubt but ye maybe the other one wasnt. first half i realy thougt that the croats where better cozz they played good but we where good also. remember our important players didnt play like servet cetin , volkan demirel. the goal that the croats scored was rustu's fault i dont fucking know why he didnt stay in his goal fucking faglord
You can't score, you wont win. Simple.
seriously
w'ell take revenge for you :P
N1
Typical Turks: doing nothing the whole time, but when they realise they can WIN or GET stuff free, they make a goal and fuck up my pool.
Turkey did play good, but they had some problems at the defens, wich croatia didnt have. croatia had somany changes, but they couldnt score.
yes Turkey is: Lady's first
but on wednesday they will fail anyway,so this is np
TüRKIYE
TüRKIYE
TüRKIYE
TüRKIYE
TüRKIYE
TüRKIYE
TüRKIYE
TüRKIYE <3333333333333333333333333 JUST DO IT
GER must stop this slaughter!
Sweet.
Unbegreiflich waren auch die Meldungen, die nach dem türkischen Triumph über die Ticker liefen. In der türkischen Stadt Gaziantep wurde ein Mann bei Freudenschüssen von einer Kugel am Kopf getroffen und erlag seinen Verletzungen.
Weitere 16 Menschen seien verletzt worden, zwei von ihnen schwer, berichtete eine türkische Nachrichtenagentur. Auch ein zehnjähriges Kind wurde von einem Querschläger getroffen.
Translation:
Unbelievable were the news running down the ticker after the turkish triumph. In the turkish city Gaziantep a man got hit by a bullet right in his head during shots of joy(?) and died on his wounds.
Other 16 people got wounded, 2 of them heavy, said a turkish news agency. Also a ten year old kid was hit by a ricochet.
deal with it.
thats football