ClanBase Ban Methods

As far as my english allows me, i will try to explain an ironic event on CB few days ago.

I was at TS when one clanmate joined in it, and he told me that he had been banned(on friday) due to a 2v2 match demos against other clan. Link: (url) [clanbase.ggl.com]

The other clan whined coz of the loss, and admins received the demos of both teams(that was in April btw). Now, and coinciding with recent Sh33p cheat BAN, my mate continue banned.

I don't know if he is banned for demo proofs, or if is banned due to Sh33p story ( http://www.crossfire.nu/?x=forum&mode=item&id=16765#comment488649 ), but the truth is that my mate doesn't cheat.

CB says the opposite, and they are based on match demos. So i have created this column to let you say if you really think that demo shows any proof of cheating. Btw here are some links.

Demos: http://www.turboupload.com/download/MLTQVpOJGYkH/hid3125472.rar


My mate: http://clanbase.ggl.com/humaninfo.php?hid=3125472

Yes, a kid on CB staff can easy ban everyone and then make joke about it, like if nothing happened.

Btw i already sent demos to some players like Fasolka, Winghaven, Bulld0g and others, and they think there is no cheat. Only the admin see hax? I'm sure there is a way to find a solution, coz this ban is kinda suspect, more than demo :)

I wait for your comments about demos and thanks all ;) Please be serious with that stuff, I really need your help to make CB unban him and show how tard can be an admin(not necessary CB, also retardeds on other websites).

PD: Sorry to CF admins, because i wrote this as a column and this musnt go in a column, so i have made again but as a post forum.
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nice urls :-D fail
fixed :P soz
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Yes, it's fixed. Man don't lie :(
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Link: (url) [clanbase.ggl.com]
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he cut and pasted it from his column he made, im sure he will fix it :)
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OMG WING SAYS NO HAX = NO HAX!
agree, if he says it not hax, its not hax
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they can ban everyone because of the demos, just stop playing this game or aim only at opponent's legs (but remember - your acc has to be lower than Killerboy's average acc, so <20%)
As i can see, many people hate killerboy :/ Is he banning everyday innocent players?
Not yet, he is new as an admin.
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Nah, only polaks hate him because they keep getting busted.
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need .avi! killerboyyyy =)
How? :( If you explain me how convert as an avi i do it :P
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Wasnt this the guy who was a known cheater in his homelands ET-community
In Italy-community there was a known-cheater called Kriminal i think. H3ll is not kriminal, different players.
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Plz I need u see demos and tell here if you see normal player or cheater. Thx to all who are seeing demos! You will receive a plane ticket to go Barcelona beaches :)
lets have a look :)))

i thought i already watched those demos, not sure though


Edit: hell got no movement at all? his gamesens is kinda weird :/
Edit: nice cave nade from unknown, allies did not sk axis did not watch the spawn but still he makes a perfect nade on cave?

Edit: they are allies first attack? whats with the crosshair, is it stuck on his head? it looked like i would not go off it
Edit: lold @ 4:20 or so? when he moves in up insta-4hs?

Edit: lol that dude got no reflexes at all? :|
Ok mate, i wait for your answer and thx u vey much.
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Nice aims but otherwise they are stupid as donkeys = no knowledge how to gib and how spread works
^^ But you see hax or smth? Thats the question :(
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nice tripleheadies without movement (crouch or strafe)
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Too technical comment for me :( Clear hax or coincidence? Sorry for not understanding :[
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Well anyone can aim like that but there is no movement at all and its really weird. I would like to see him playing a 6on6.
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the whole match looks like its the two bottom teams of the 2on2-ladder, no offence to them but their gamesense is like 1%. cant say I see any obvious hax, 3hs u can get easily on some luck :) <3<3
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idd, they dont crouch or stuff but shoot random 3hs :/ + they are really as stupid as donkeys
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Ok thx for comment :) I think that supply moment is the only strange think in whole 2 map demos. So i take it as a coincidence, because if we take care on this, we also have to ban half EC players. Anyway thanks a lot for be honest with demo.
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Watched almost the whole braundorf, if this is an aimbot... xDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

Mine yesterday's headshots were weird! Ban me please!
Thx chelmianin :) Come to barcelona and call me to get a drink ^^
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:D how did they know the allies spawntime on supply?
noticed the same thing :P
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the allied tapped out so he took a randomnade?
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Watched whole braundorf - saw maybe 1 arguably suspicious action. Seems clean to me.
i knew this would happen if he became cb admin, epic fail has begon

i sugjest you pm donex, if he cant fix it your doomed or try to do the impossible like finding the CB head C&A admin email
Mate I know your pain. Clownbase started to ban innocent players. Same happend to my mate. Its really fucked up. Whole crossfire loled at the actions in the demo and avi that was made. But barti-cunt-chello found hax there, so his mates could play the final again (and lose again).

Unbelievable. I bless God that now its holidays and I can forget about this shitty league.
ofc, and your mates name is?
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i wont answer because of that "ofc". this just shows how biased you are and you dont really care wether someone is cheating or not, just you want to get rid of cheaters even for the price of innocent players. i hope this will happen to you or some of your mates. now go and fuck yourself. at least we know the truth, such stupid bastards like you dont need to. ofc if you really want to know, youll find it out but gl searching.
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are you mentally retarded?
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others, reading our comments, will judge.
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like i give a fuck about randoms shittards like you judging me... funny
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well same here, the other way around ofc.
thats why i dont care about your opinion in the ban case
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haha fucking retard, so easy to guess who you are talking of :D







GNAJDA
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why should i care about some random cheater? ;-)
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idem david ofc... the only other guy i banned in a simular case.
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btw, about month later david went with us to ugs lan and owned everybody just like online. thanks for ruining a good clan. i would feel very bad with such knowledge, but you prolly dont care anyways. sleep well cunt.
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do you know that:

1) h3ll was busted with another nick for multihax (ip check)
2) he's faking an Italian ex-player named h3llscream from rtcw
3) he was always proud to post in italian comunity forum pictures from his hack with explanation about its features and stuff (like: click on hax,point wET etc)

then, ure free to think what do u want ;)
that has so much to do with this topic mate, well done
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you are retarded if you cant see it is... but i wouldnt expect much fromt the guy who at start says "ofc". wouldnt be surprised if you even dont have an idea what im talking about but thats ok, you are surely loved the way you are.
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wow, cool pic. you must be cool as well if you post such cool pics ;-)
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Kiewan's style
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Ok, i must explain all story because your post has lot of fails. Let's start:

1) h3ll was busted with another nick for multihax (ip check)

That was caused by a shared rtcwkey. Kriminal bought first time a rtcw key, and in a few days he sent it to 4 or 5 italian friends, included H3ll. That's why that key has many many many ips(locations). I think tihs is not hax, only multi-players with same key. Anyway i dont know nothing about rtcw, never played. But that can't be hax, only shared key.

2) he's faking an Italian ex-player named h3llscream from rtcw

Failed. H3ll had two accounts, ET account(hell2008) and rtcw account. The rtcw account was created by kriminal, but he gave it to H3ll. So is not faking. Is the same case as rtcwkey. All these things are told by H3ll to me(yesterday) because i told him to say me all real story(since 2003 :S).

3) he was always proud to post in italian comunity forum pictures from his hack with explanation about its features and stuff (like: click on hax,point wET etc)

Dunno about that, maybe you are talking about kriminal, he was busted time ago. Anyway i will ask H3ll about that. Thx 4 the info spongino, very very useful ;)
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1) h3ll = Ynos

that's what in the italian community forum they said after a ip log check

ynos = http://yawn.boozze.be/findPlayer.yawn?gamecode=ET&etproGuid=97C977A0B3A3AF9318F4D523720A976675FA78EF


no i'm not talking about kriminal, kriminal has been banned 10times for aimbot (and of course it was a "pb bug" for him) and he was also on ETB0t list (ip) i'm talking about "ynos" who seems to be "h3ll" (if you understand italian you can go here) http://gaming.ngi.it/showthread.php?t=468058
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Your are talking about Ynos. H3ll only played et in my clan. Ynos faked him spoofing i think.
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don't waste your time, clanbase is shit anyways. Some CB-Admins are cool though
some present CB-Admins? ET? hmmmmmmm... donex, Zell, Nawor, Bartichello, Killerboy?

but you are right there are some cool CB-admins now, at least I know two - Freakzilla and Kaboom from UT3
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hey i was cool :D
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Bartichello is kinda cool same for zell and donex, you only know em. Hi2u Bulldog :d
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hehe hi2u :)
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yes you were :D but atm is there any cool admin left?
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your "mate" isnt the real h3ll i guess
h3ll never played et in any clan , he never liked it and barely played it with his ztp mates and he didnt even post anything in the italian community in the thread about his ban since he is not been seen around for a while
afaik the ip of the fake h3ll is the same as from Italy ynos
fake h3ll = ynos zeh cheater http://yawn.boozze.be/findPlayer.yawn?gamecode=ET&pbGuid=03b1e0f8

btw fasolkas opinion LoL
I will, my shining sun!
what kind of glasses do i need to see it?
ROFL, who ever made you CB admin must be a complete retard
i bet u would do a better job since u experienced the life of a cheater for the good of this community
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ofcourse, and he didnt:D?
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i actually never saw him playing et
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so you have seen me cheat then?
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well i must say i saw you playing vs FiF gaming on CDC and i wasnt impressed :o)
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i know it was a complete failure, but how does that give you a reason to believe i cheat online?
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he also sux online, nothing wrong with that!
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doesn't matter
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it does
those 2 guys are known cheaters
everybody is always whining about the situation of et right now
2 cheaters get banned and everybody is whining about it
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the fact remains that both kiewan and killerboy are complete idiots and that killerboy shouldn't be a cb admin when the comm fucking hates him (or atleast i hate him; e-hate)
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at least Kiewan doesn't want to ban people for nothing
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so you seriously believe hes cheating in those demo's? if you are jump on killerboys failure boot

his demos are clean and he got banned for that, if he was banned for the pb kicks there wouldn't be any whine would there?
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i didnt watch the demos cause i dont give a fuck
i know those 2 are cheaters and im happy they are banned no matter why
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Mate, first you say that this H3ll is not real H3ll, and now you say he is a cheater :/. You are getting lost.

Ynos faked H3ll. H3ll only played et in my clan and few mixes more.

He doesnt cheat, tbh only 1 suspect action on supply attack, not sufficient to ban him, but you haven't seen demo so ... ? plz see demo and then talk :(
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im saying the guy who is faking h3ll is a cheater and i guess its the same guy playing in your clan since h3ll always hated et and i dont think he would actually play it in some random clan
whats the msn adress that u got from him ;D ?
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You failed, i tell you that H3ll only played ET in my clan, after playing RTCW. If you want contact him and verify that, pm him in clanbase. Easy.
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yea lets ban people by just looked at demo's which have not a single obvious action in it, he didnt even look at his pb kicks when he submitted the ban. sends a good message to the community, doesnt it?
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christ.. the problem isnt rly wether they are cheating or not. they probably do. But the problem is the evidence CB is using, which is stated that it is these demos and there is NOTHING that can say that he is 100% using hax.

If they have posted their übercool hax on some forum, been kicked by punkbuster or spoofing someone THAT should be the evidence, not some retard demo
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Completely agree
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lulz i remember playing this guy and it was the first time when i was 100% sure that someone is cheating
your funny as hell, keep up the good work
Please link to his yawn, if there's something red he stays banned, otherwise unban and boycott clanbase.

#against.banning.cheaters
Red yawn -> BAN

Shevchenko7 -> GTFO
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I like your pov xDDD
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LoL! A fucking japanese eyes-semiclosed saying to me that gtfo! i rofl!. Pls continue inventing playstations and fuck yourself, if you don't see demos your opinion about this ban and your suggests mixed with your humorous speech counts 0 at max.
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your suggests mixed with your humorous speech means nothing to me!
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haha dude, you're fucking retarded.
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Go practice taekwondo koreantard
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hint: fake flags
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No nationality man -> n1
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crossfire flags - serious business
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fucking japanese gtfo
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Ignore mode 1
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fucking japanese eyes-semiclosed gtfo
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fucking antichrist gtfo ateist no morals get some eyes maybe u will see god lol u fucking bitch
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:D
LoL fucking korean eyes semiclosed gtfo
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This is Ynos, not h3ll.
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and the ban evidence should be correct not just a random demo of him and then use other evidence as argument
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i downloaded from cb fucktard
Too lazy to check it if he's cheating or not but I think that clanbase is banning very fast nowadays, wouldn't be surprised if they would ban some guys who aren't cheating.
if CB bans cause of that first minute in that offense on supply it would be the top stupidness. i also say anyone who is 100% convinced that this guy hax only out of this minute is completely retarted. thats the way guys like u ruin the game
i rly doubt CB´s reasons r found in this demo, idd i´d say pretty strange shooting including some bullets for the wall (but short before a selfkill!!!) but to treat it as a proof, is childish²
No no no. I explain you mate. Ynos here doesnt exists. We are talking about H3ll's demo ban. Ynos takes part in rtcw story, no more. H3ll banned in ET match by suspect aimbot and wh demo. I only want to know if all you think that demo shows hax or not. :)
as long as the real h3ll doenst appeal to anything himself how do you expect that someone will unban him ?
tell him to post on the italian forum to verify that he is really "alive" cause i dont believe it
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I've told to real H3ll to doesnt post and doesnt make any noise, coz these things have to be done with calm. He is very nervous and angry with cb about this ban, but i've told him i will do all possible to make cb unban him.

Anyway if u want i can tell him to answer you.
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Nice skilldrop englishspeaking-wise from the post to your comments!
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I really dont understand u, plz repeat with other words :(
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you dont get it do you?, admitting you were wrong is a big deal for you i see
Fasolka @ cheatbusting LOL
I think she asked to his bf :P
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stop laughng Chomik:) he just asked me about opinion, so i watch demo with Flo ;)
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all in all banning for demos is a good thing but cb should be very (!) careful with it and not ban for a few random suspicious situations.
since i haven't checked these demos and i have never heard of these guys i can't say anything about this specific case.
Completely agree.
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fully agree, man
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right, cb needs to be very careful
btw look demos they cheat so clear
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like i said, haven't watched demos, so i can't say anything about this case.
even though the .avi was already kinda obvious i would still watch the demo before deciding, which i didn't.
but since this guy got several pbbans anyway the ban should be fine.
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I only see stupid comments about fasolka opinion. Every etplayer opinion is welcome. Why you laugh at?
Laika stop acting retard mood, demos are uploaded by me, after being downloaded from CB. Why are u saying all time "fake demos"? These are the real demos, stop flaming. With that things you only flame topic, so stop.

And also dunno why are u talking about red yawns :S These yawn link is from Ynos, not from H3ll.

First get real info, then give your opinion. k?
ONLY GOD CAN JUDGE ME NOW
He moves like someone who just started ET. He has almost zero reflexes.
You can see the crosshair being stuck on the opponent everytime, looks like a locking on bot or something x)

Given his movement and no reflex aim, and gamesense 0.001 does not compute with his perfect tracking and hs.
I'd say this is a clear aimbot, but no wallhack.
very good said, must agree in 100 %
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I know many guys who have just been playing public and are aiming very good in 3on3's but have nothing more then brain... bad argument imo
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But those guys from public should have awesome reflexes, because on public the enemy can come from anywhere. Unlike in wars where you can make use of timing and prediction much more and don't need that much reflexes if played well.

Even when only playing public you should have basic strafing movement and gamesense.
I still say that if he did become good on publics, his movement, reflexes and gamesense would be a lot better if it would rivals his awesome tracking and aiming skills.
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Nice logic comment, btw i think he doesn't move like someone who just started ET, also he comes from RTCW so .. :S. He knows ho to move, but doesnt know how to strafe good.
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Thx for comment
did it...well...how abou makin a avi of all his bad shooting scenes too? looks more and more like a witch hunt, sry
cb are some noobs dont know much about et, bunch of kiddies. dont play that bullshit league if you dont want no trouble.
Problem is, there are no more interesting cups. Only two or three more(ET).

Btw there nice admins in Cb nowadays. We should not blame CB because of 3 or 4 kiddies.
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lets suggest he didnt turn off, so shooted normal the whole time except three scenes: 1 in which his crosshair aims a guy behind a wall right before hes selfkilling and 2 with unhuman aim...how many of those "i-finally-bust-butchji-movies" have the same arguments?
u cant deny everything rests purely on circumstantial evidence (dic says so), not a single proof avi
only my opinion, i am not involved, u dont need to convice me
well i saw guys shooting better for longer distances, but its ok i can live with his ban...and tosspott wont do shit...lol...think about my sentence again better
Dont forget that laika can't hold a serious discussion because of his poor maturity. He will say the same days and days, until all community desist to discuss with him. Typical behaviour on all CB staff kiddies.
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exactly what i thought when he didnt get that i defended butchji...he doesnt seem to be interested in a serious discussion...another esport...erm...e-penis-drama
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hahaha very smart aim but no brain xDDDDDDDD
good this tard is banned for hax
Btw, friday i talked with donex. He told me "ask bulldog, i think h3ll hax". Now, bulld0g says: "No hax". So....unban donex plz?
QuoteYes, a kid on CB staff can easy ban everyone and then make joke about it, like if nothing happened.


QuoteBtw i already sent demos to some players, Winghaven, Bulld0g and they think there is no cheat.


QuoteBtw, friday i talked with donex. He told me "ask bulldog, i think h3ll hax". Now, bulld0g says: "No hax". So....unban donex plz?


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Fook the rest, especially that new kid they have @ clownbase as admin.
Yes he sent it to Fasolka also, probably thinking that she's known and respected in the community (well she is but not many would rely on her cheat-detection sense). That may have been a mistake but if we look closer - hey she's an ET player. Why not listen to her opinion about that? It won't cost us much.

On the other hand I see you want to distract the reader from seeing two other names - Winghaven: one of the most skilled guys that ever touched ET and Bulld0g: a cheatbuster whose level you are definitely not bound to achieve and I don't think anyone here is, not because he busted so many people but because he's not fucking paranoid about cheats like you.

That's why your comment above this one is absolutely useless and should not be written but hey, who demands a well-thought comment from killerboy?
Since when you don't care about cheatbusting issues? Lost motivation?
Not sure I understood - explain plz.
LOL did you actually deserve to be respected?
1: I'm older than you.
2: No, as a cheatbuster you didn't deserve any respect from anyone.
Oh I guess you don't know why I am telling that. I don't mean the ones you actually busted yourself (dunno if there are any, not just randomly looked up on pbbans). I'm rather talking about those who you claimed to bust and who were clean. As "it's better to set 100 criminals free than to imprison 1 innocent" I recept you as a paranoid fucker who cannot even admit his mistake nor leave the emotions behind at his everyday work.
are you stupid? ever tried alt+printscren? ever tried ctrl+s, use the "save whole page with images"-stuff and put it in a rar-file just like the demos? No wonder u make bans like this.. no offence but that one was deserver. I dont think I hate u for real
I'm not talking about CB bans but your random avi busts which in fact didn't result in bans but in unnecessary reputation loss.
Indeed it doesn't. Could you point me when I started to talk about CB?

I'm talking about your whole cheatbusting "career" not only the latest CB actions which I didn't actually follow so can't tell much about it.
Yes but still this is a part of your "anti-cheat" past and, as well as cheating periods in ex-cheaters' gaming "careers", this is a thing that denies all respect you could have earned through your voluntary work.

About your new way of anticheat work - why so late?
I still think that the coice of evidence is like having dna, fingerprins available but choose to use yesterdays newspaper where some idiot says the guy is the murderer
"thats why i stopped making avis and stuff and instead im focusing on pbbans since its much better proof and less time consuming"

I lol'd on that x'D

You banned both players(20th june) because of demo, and you did .avi to show how succeed was the ban. So you haven't stopped making avis. You are always lying. :S

Listen to TheDuck, he explained all points and you only answered him with foolishs like:

"from some polish kids like you no"
calling child to someone who is like 10 years older.

"care"
(this one is kid's typical)

"you forgot Winghaven, Fasolka, bulld0g."
(isn't Fasolka an et player like u? do u have something better than she maybe? not really)

"since somoeone with 0 powers farts in my work":
(When u still weren't born, people fought to be able to express theirselves with freedom, without minding their status(politician or not, Mayor or not). Nowadays you come here and tell that someone with 0 powers[huh?] can't express his disagreement about someone action.)
i understand hes like your big e-friend but if you really can't see that he's aimbotting you must be either pretty dim witted or just stubborn heh ;/

Quote Hope on 22/06/08, 18:19:14 PM | Reply

He moves like someone who just started ET. He has almost zero reflexes.
You can see the crosshair being stuck on the opponent everytime, looks like a locking on bot or something x)

Given his movement and no reflex aim, and gamesense 0.001 does not compute with his perfect tracking and hs.
I'd say this is a clear aimbot, but no wallhack.
that about sums it up
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IS your opinion, my opinion is that you can easy shoot 3 random hs without strafe move, ofcourse can't do it always. He plays since rtcw was created so his aim is pretty good. About the 1day-et-movements, he wasn't playing for a while until he came ET in april. He moves better now than in April btw.

I don't defend because of being big e-friend, i know him since 1 month only mate :)
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Well, I see many people saying that h3ll is not real rtcw h3ll. But yes, he is. He is H3llscream from rtcw clan ztp. Friend of Hans, etc.

Ynos doesn't exists here, he takes part in other story about spoofing guids.
Congratz, u have shown you only ban suspect players that doesn't play on EC. You don't dare to ban an EC suspect player, only suspect nonames. So you are not valid as an admin.
Never, though a player is innocent, you never remove ban. So we can't proof you ever banned innocent player because though he's innocent you never admit it. Tbh you failed many many times as an admin.
Nice! So bartichello says they have been banned for demo suspect action, but you say:

"CB cannot add forum topics as evidence (in the c&a profile) .... but its used as evidence"

So you can't ban them by a demo, and you used forum topics as a proof. Where are these proofs? :D I want to see them. Also my teammate wants. Cmon we are waiting for your uberproof.
"that codes cheats"

Proofs? You are always based on supposition.
Totally uncultivated. First -> study. Then -> talk about something you learnt.
You are like 3 days losing point of thread. Ynos is not my mate. Ynos faked h3ll but my mate is the real H3ll. So, i repeat you, you are basing your ban on a false proof IDIOT.
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