Euro 2008: ESP vs GER - The Final

by essah • 26 Jun 2008, 21:37 • Forums › Off Topic

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Germany vs. Spain

Spain

The Final of Euro2008™ !!!

Date Sun 29th June Kick-off 20:45 CET Venue Ernst-Happel-Stadion, Vienna

Possible Lineups

Spain

Spain: Iker Casillas – Sergio Ramos, Carles Puyol (c), Carlos Marchena, Joan Capdevila – Marcos Senna – Xavi Hernandez, David Silva, Andres Iniesta – Fernando Torres, David Villa

Germany

Germany: Jens Lehmann – Phillip Lahm, Christoph Metzelder, Per Mertesacker, Arne Friedrich – Thorsten Frings, Thomas Hitzelsberger – Lukas Podolski, Michael Ballack (c), Bastian Schweinsteiger – Miroslav Klose

Referee Italy

Roberto Rosetti

Quote by bbc.co.uk
"Germany coach Joachim Low must decide whether to recall Torsten Frings for Sunday's Euro 2008 final against Spain.

The midfielder has declared himself fit after recovering from a broken rib and could replace Simon Rolfes (cut eye) in the only change to the side.

Spain also look sure to alter their line-up with striker David Villa almost certainly out with a thigh injury.

That could mean a start for Arsenal's Cesc Fabregas in a five-man midfield, with Fernando Torres the lone striker.

It was with that side and formation that Spain strolled past Russia 3-0 in Thursday's semi-final and coach Luis Aragones has hinted Fabregas, who set up two of the goals, could start.

"I know how well he can perform," Aragones said. "I like a player like Cesc, 20-years-old and someone who has acquired the experience of someone who's 27, 28. To us, he's important."

The Spanish are full of confidence ahead of the final, having turned themselves from "perennial underachievers" to many people's tip to win the final in the course of the tournament.

Spain may not have won a major honour since 1964 - their victory in that year's European Championship their only title to date - but Liverpool striker Torres believes the side are equipped to go all the way this year.

"This team is already making history, but we can do even more," he said.

WTOTHOTC!
"Germany know how to win tournaments, they know how to play these games and we know we have be careful because they are the favourites. But we can win it too."

However, Germany team manager Oliver Bierhoff refutes claims his side are favourites, saying: "We have demonstrated what capabilities we possess, but we should put Spain one step above us.

"That said, this was the case against Portugal (in the quarter-final) as well and it doesn't have to be to our disadvantage."

And the former striker, whose 'golden goal' against the Czech Republic gave Germany the European title in 1996, hinted Low's side would set out to be hard to break down rather than expansive in attack.

"Spain control the ball very well and they provide decisive passes," he said. "We will have to play very tightly, double-team a lot and keep the marking close."

That philosophy was supported by Frings, who said: "We shouldn't let them into the game. We have to be aggressive, we have to step up even as they are receiving the ball.

"I don't think they like it when you are aggressive against them." "

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Germany's gonna win!

spain !!! FO SHO!

easy for spain,gr8 team

easy for

ye sure.

full time

2-2

penalties

5-3 esp-ger

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who should beat germany in penalties rofl

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spain w/o probs.

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casillas will be much better in penalties than lehmann. id say germany is stronger ingame rather than in penalties

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none beats germany in penalties :>

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im not rly cheering for either teams but u gotta admit that lehmann is old(er)

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true but remember 2006 quarter final against argentina

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luck :D well each goalie has their own advantages. so they're quite equal but in speed and reaction i think casillas is slightly better - u never know until it rly happens tho :D

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true casillas is very very strong but lehmann is very nice too :>
but true,you never know =P
anyway i hope to see a interesting and close match and primarily i want to see a german victory :D

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i do wonder why you'd like germany to win :D

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:PPPP
how could it come...^^

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we haven't missed a single penalty since '82

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wasn't talking bout the strikers/team in general - just saying that casillas might be slightly better than lehmann

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lehmann will get his slip of paper again and we win \o/

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rofl true :DDDD

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spain imo

we win we win tralalala

yermans !

EASY FOR SPAIN

like for portugal xDD

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never said that. + i never cheer for portugal

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deep down in your heart you're a true C.Ronaldo fanboy!!! :D

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haha u wish !!

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i try my best :( :P nah actually i hate him aswell :D

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good :>

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hahaha :D:D

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:D <3

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!!!!

I'll vote for Jari Litmanen.

:D what is zeh old bastard doin nowadays?

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Breaking his legs all the time.

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EASYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

Carles Puyol (c),No hes not C, casillas is!

Spain will RAPE them.

If Germany was going to meet Russia, then it would be new world war!

Cesc should play ,he was dominant phenomenon tonight

agreed !

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Germany played bad in semis, spain was brilliant = Win For Germany

Germany!

3:0

wp ESP!

we are not russia ^^

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hmmm... 2-0 for España

! <3

5:2

get over it. Russia sucks.

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i expected estonia in finals

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Dont start with that crap. Russia sucks.

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estonia blows then

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Maybe, but Russia got owned, HAHAHAHAHAH.

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deserved win, bad day :[

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lol, not, Spain beat you twice.

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two bad days :P

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goooooooooooooooooooooooooo SPAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIIINNNNNNNNN

you disappoint me,you have to cheer for germany,at least for me!

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10:0

stirb, made...

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agree! die!

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ROFL DU LEBST JA

Schreib doch mal ICQ zurück

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nein, stirb einfach

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David Villa won't play if his injury looks as bad as against Russia.

good. let Fabergas play

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I would rather like to see Villa & Fabregas than Torres & Fabregas.

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same, but Fabegras needs to play more.

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ger will take it cuz they have löw

löw+

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yerman's beware of Spanish Armada ( lol i hope they won't sink this time )

Referee Roberto Rosetti....

noway against italy lameness :(

The best so far...

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rosettihengst

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rosetti is the nicest name ever :DDDD

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Rosettenhengst!

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Hmmmm in my opinion the referee shouldnt be from italy...

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ESPANAAA

España<3

Can't wait to read the "easy 4 Spain" comments like before the Portugal mach.

scroll up

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easy 4 spain

izi 4 spain

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rosetti ftw xD

2:1

Germany!!

Spain will take it.

Well Spain is playing very well hmm very hard to say but im optimistic

Spain

2 : 3

np 4

If spain doenst play 4-1-4-1

image: de

3 : 1

Dream final! <3

dream final would be any final without germany :P

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Well no because Germany plays better in important matches not like Holland who fail usually.

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Well yes because germany always scores in the last minute of the game which ruins the fun :(

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I see.

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A sign of will, character & mentality. ;) So I prefer teams like Germany in the final, who are able to balance their missing individual skill with teamwork and the listed facts.

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we got alot of turks here ye, but we are still Germany

sir

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More like they play bad but still win! ;c

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the stereotypes of german football lives strong!

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It's not a stereotype, haven't you seen their games?

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Yeah, played great against Portugal!

How good could they be when they are going to win european championship with bad play? :x

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They didn't play great against Portugal, they only did oK.

They had the easiest group in the cup, they faced Portugal on Portugal's bad day and had to face Turkey playing without many of their key players. It didn't really take anything particularly special to get to the final...

I simply can't stand watching Germans play, the way they do it makes me want to cut myself.

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Better than ok tbh :) Yeah they've had some easy matches, but still it's ec-final :)

Did you watch Germany play in the world cup? Beautiful football they played and should had been in the final.

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German football is ugly, unlike NL's

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Maybe the people didn't notice it in the netherlands yet. But football is a results sport, if you wanna die in useless beauty, then better try something like gymnastics. In addition, please pick up the tons of Dutch people, who are mixing up support with carnival.

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German football is ugly, unlike NL's

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what's wrong with carnaval as support? are you an Emo or?

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It doesn't make sense at all, especially because the "elftal" support is more emo than anything in this world.

Carnival has simply nothing to do with football support. And it's just laughable to see the stadium filled by 4/5 oranjes, who are not even able to beat a handful of opponents fans acoustically.

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D: guess they all lost their voice by drinking.

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I doubt that. Whenever I was on a party holiday, Dutchies had the biggest mouth and were already history after 2 beers. Actually only the British had a stronger performance...my respect. :P

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The day after Oranje lost, cameracrews went into Basel to talk with the Dutch fans that were still there.. All of them were totally wasted.. xD TOTALLY wasted.. most of them couldn't talk anymore : |

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Ye, 2 beers finalised them. :D

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nah.. after Netherlands lost, they kept on drinking till they dropped.. local barkeepers never sold so many beers :|

Dutch drinkers > UK drinkers, especially after a loss..

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The Croatian supporters were nice this time. Prolly the best.

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Indeed, but I was talking about the Dutchies.

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http://www.sportwereld.nl/voetbal/ek2008/2399473/Oranjefans_helpen_bierbrouwer_aan_record.html

It says the Dutch helped making a new record, since I've been there I know people didn't stop after 2 beers :P

Being there with thousands of other Dutch people all dressed in orange is just fun. All those people from Switzerland haven't seen anything like this and they love it, they all go orange too!

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Well, moving faster than 2 km/h is already an adventure in the Switzerland. In addition, I heard the beer got adulterated with water, whenever the Netherlands played. ;D

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That is true actually, because there was not enough :D:D

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Ok, I give up.

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You are hiding stupidity with eloquence it seems... Thats like saying all the french wear green socks on monday just because u saw alot of those on monday when u visited france. And even if you feel that such a generalisation is justified, what gives you the right to judge other countries cultures and habbits? Sure its a silly sight, but that doesnt make them idiots with no backbone like you are implying.

And no im not dutch, im actually not biased. Im belgian and in im not very fond of most dutch people, but i do respect them and im not predjudice towards them or any other country for that matter.

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Haha, ey pls...that's a football topic and meant like that. You really missed the point or take it too serious. I'm not someone, who ever cared about the nationality to judge a person. I never had any problems with a Dutchie in my life. I even expected some smart asses like you, so I even tried to limit it on football obviously.

I really can't help, if you don't understand it..., but I will try to add even more smilies and political correctness for people like you.

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Ok mayb u meant it differently, but it sounded alot like : "all germans are fascists because they started WWII" or "blame all jews".

My apologies if u didnt mean it like that, i just get tired of all the nationality bashing on crossfire.

cheers :)

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No problem. :P My text can really be interpreted like this. It wasn't meant so offensive, I was just drunken at this time.

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He speaks as a viewer. A viewer prefers watching NL style rather than DE style of football.

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I'd rather lose in the quarter finals when playing good then win the tourney by playing horrible. What do most people remember about WC 74? Holland inventing total football or Germany winning the final? About the supporters, we try to make as much fun as possible in and around the games. I think you're one of the very few that dislikes that, because as far as I remember I heard only positive things about this =).

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Most people remember who won - and not how a team won. It just doesn't matter. As said plenty of times above: It's all about results.

And plz...All this Anti-German campaign is just utter bullshit. It's true that the Germans aren't ball wizzards and trick their enemies to death, but Germany also showed fantastic passing and offensive skills - also in this tournament. Yeah, we had one or two bad matches, but that's the other side of German football: The will to win. You have to admit that Germany always fights for every ball and never gives up.

We don't play like Brazil and we don't play like Englands "Kick and Rush" (was it England? :X) or whatever...We play like Germany. And that's certainly not luck-only and NOT half as ugly as you want to tell us since 1954.

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You played one good match against Portugal and that's it. So that's 3 bad matches and one average (vs Poland). I'm not saying anything negative about Germany, but if you're saying the Dutch fans are retards for dressing up and actually having fun something is wrong with you. Also I'm pretty sure total football & cruijff are remembered more than the win of west Germany.

About the German playing style, I don't know I've been raised appreciating fast and offensive football, if it's not I mostly don't like the teams style. I enjoyed the Germany turkey match a lot though. So it doesn't say everything, but I like the Dutch style more than the German style.

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It's clear that in the Netherlands it's more important how your team played than the final result in '74. That's the same with the German team in '02 und '06. But be sure - the winner gets the trophy - and it's him who gets remembered.

Btw... I nvr said anything against the Dutch clothing style but even if...don't be so pissed about it. Oo Damn - it's GER vs NED, we HATE each other in football. That's how it is and that's why somebody might fool about this Oranje. Don't take it too serious, man...

We played a bad match against Croatia, a good match against Poland, 2 average matches against Austria and Portugal. But as I told you - German football consists of two parts now-a-days. Some offensive fast football ( oh yeah, Germany plays like that sometimes"!) and if that doesn't work, the fighting style. And that's why Germany can be successful even if the "good-looking" style doesn't work out - that's what makes us "special".

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Quote King East on 27/06/08, 07:12:37 Del | Edit | Nuke | Ban | PM | Reply |

Maybe the people didn't notice it in the netherlands yet. But football is a results sport, if you wanna die in useless beauty, then better try something like gymnastics. In addition, please pick up the tons of Dutch people, who are mixing up support with carnival.

I replied on that not on you.

You played pretty horrible against austria, turkey & croatia. You played well against Portugal and against Poland you were okay (though Poland with the right strikers wouldve made it way harder on you).

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ROFL DID YOU SEE THE 1-0 AGAINST PORTUGAL?

That was the very best attack at the whole EC untill now!

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keep on dreaming

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it was...

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it was , NE vs IT . the 2-0 tbh

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Germany only plays vs weak teams...

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Yes since 54 years...

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Dont see what that has to do with this. Anyway there groupstage they narrowly got through then portugal and then turkey who almost won so its not like germany is the strongest/best team of the cup. Im not saying NL is couse they did fail vs russia but still they played a hell of a lot better the germany did. And neither am i appealing that germany doesnt deserve to be in the final its just there route to it doesnt get easier than that.

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whine!
You can hardly compare two teams which have not been playing against each other or the same opponents. imo turkey for example was a harder enemy than France or even Italy(?) this year, cause they were very motivated and stuff.

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I was talking about the german football in general while you talk about this specific EC. That's what it has to do with it.

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dream final would be Ger vs Rus

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nP for

3-2

Spain

lets hope villa will be back for the final

ogoogogogog spain ! :D

4 - 2

omg nonono to big numbers u have :/

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3-2 GER

well since germany doesn't deserve this i say GO SPAIN

GOGO SPAIN

3:2

2:2

and afterwards penalties Germany

5:3

anyway i expect a very close match
SCHLAAAAND!

SPA! <3 Fernando Torres

2:1 spain

spain going to
win

It will be a really tough game but I think Spain

will win 3-2.

Lehmann is such a failure that he'll concede at least 4 goals.

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Depends if Spain

revert to the formation that they used at the start of the game or the one after Spain

Villa went off. The choice seems obvious but this is football, everyone wants to be a minge on the big stage!

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rofl

Germany 2-1 Spain

way too eazy for spain

i hate both teams. i hope they will puke themselves on the field for 90+30min and then penalties 10-9

You don't even know one of them. :P Your envy is our pride.

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nice jealousy

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I hate the german football team, bunch of ballhairs! go spain...!!

Why do Holland and Germany hate each others teams? I mean, I sure hate the dutch team, not only since your players tend to spit on ours...

In ET I played with a handfull of dutch players, they were all pretty nice. Why can't we get along in football?

:P

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GOOO SPAIN!

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How you can't hate the netherlands in football?

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so true, but why is it? I can't explain =/

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It's a genetic caused feeling deep in a German's heart. It's different to the hate of the Netherlands for the German team, which is based on pure envy. I could explain you my 'hate' for the 'elftal', but it would require too much time. :P

random link

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cuz "Oranje" is way cooler then "die Mannschaft"

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Failing with the best individualists every 2 years makes you so fucking cool.

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still, they present way better-looking football than germany.

i couldnt care less about germany winning the most of times if they do it without any style. i prefer teams which, maybe lose (spain :D) but show nice football.

thats why i dont like german football style.

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I understand your point and why the most like this kind of teams. ^^ But it's not only because I'm a German. I prefer this style at all also in club football or another sports.

A bunch of good individualists look often good. But it's harder and a better performance to balance the missing individual skill with passion, will, character, mentality and team spirit. Take the match against Turkey as an example. It's very hard for Germany to make the game, if they are favourite, because the individual skill is limited.

They had to handle the pressure, Turkey, which had nothing to lose and ran for their life even scored, everything spoke against Germany.

The 2nd half wasn't better in any way. Then u even make the 2-1 and get 4 minutes before the end the 2-2. Take Lahm as example, he showed a bad performance, didn't get a deserved penalty & caused the 2-2. At this point a Dutchie would go to cry, while eating tulips. He just faces the situation like "a man", marchs in front and shoots the fucking shit in the goal.

The often quoted 'German luck', which I have to read after nearly every match since I am able to think, has nothing to do with luck. It's just a consequence of the listed facts above.

So I don't see any point, why the Netherlands are likeable. It's just a results sports. It's like you complain about someone, who drives through the eurotunnel from France to the UK, instead to drive to Norway to swim to the UK, just because the nature is more beautiful on the road to Norway.

I don't care at all about the "Germany didn't deserve it" comments, it would make the win even more enjoyable. :P But it's bullshit to say "Germany didn't deserve it" or "it was luck". Germany would fuck up the probability calculation then. ;)

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Germany_and_Netherlands_football_rivalry

Results sport or not; it's history.

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we got nice players, but there some pussies in the team like robben. in "die mannschaft" you got not really pussies but players that are strong and fight till the end, and that's what the dutchies are missing I think.
they must have more players like:

image: 0,1020,882979,00

deutschland will win I think :)

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I show you our "oranje"

image: zack5-th

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:DD

If I remember right, some Germans made a song about it too?

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yea, pretty much at every EC or WC we make fun of this in different variations :P

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LOl so owned xDDD
<3

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lol again :<

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Einfach nur wegen dem Lama...Das reicht schon.

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but we hate them already before the lama incident.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cpnnzhimjQ

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2-0 Spain

ESPANIA!

Like usual it is just 1 game that has to be played, and it can turn out in either direction. I hope for a 3:2 for germany, but if they lose I won't be too disapointed cause spain would deserve it aswell.

:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD LOLD

España <3

Deutschland <3

<3 :P!

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will go to penalties or at least the end of additional time

Villa won't play in final

Rosetti ^^

xddddd fucking hilarious :D

Germany

Easy 4

SCHLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAND!

matches like this have the following problem: why do there has to be a winner

because

Spain has to win.

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I don't understand the funny point tbh.:/

it got a big penis, i think

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Der deutsche Fußball hat wieder massig Talente!
Deutschland über alles.
3-2

Which is nice :)

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3:1 for spain

viva espaniola !!!!

gl Germany

SCHLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAND!

Ramos will pwn germany

viva la espana!

DEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEUTSCHLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAND :)

np4us

2-3

Poldi & Klose!!

if germany will play same footbal like vs turkey, it will be easy bash for Spain

idd

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true but they won't,trust me :P
anyway it will be a close match

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hahahaha

ALLES HAT EIN ENDE NUR DIE WURST HAT ZWEI

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MEIN SCHATZ ES GEHT VORBEI

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ach jetz haste wieder ne große fresse
3:2 mein freund,3:2 :>

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nach dem die euch so zerfickt haben und ihr insgesammt grad mal 4 schüsse aufs tor hattet. kann man einfach nur lolen

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if [present simple] + [future simple]

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who cares :]
but tell me, how its right

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if germany plays same footbal like vs turkey, it will be easy bash for :D, just to use present tense in first part of the sentence, near "if" :D

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thx ;]

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3:2 GERMANY

España por favor!

germany doens't deserve it, go spain 2-0

I think it'll be a hard match , let's see which team will be the better one :)

da real sensenmann? >:

ya, me is the grim reaper and i'm here to take your soul!

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estamos al final!

David Villa no win :-[

2:0 ger

I hope Germany will win of course, but they will get owned

more polaks at german team, maybe then they will win...

schweinsteiger + podolski = epic win

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i hope that spain will win

Germany needs to be predominant in the midfield. Spain shouldn't get any space to perform their short passing game. Germany as one of the tallest teams in the cup against the smallest team. We will win, in case of we are able to use this advantage.

2:1 for Spain :(

GUYS DONT CARE WE'LL SEE AFTER THE MATCH WHO GONNA TAKE IT

Denied.

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3:2

3-1 Spain,

spain might be more nervous, thats our chance!

my thoughts of their current level:

casillas = lehmann
ramos > friedrich
puyol > metzelder
marchena < mertesacker
capdevila < lahm
senna < frings
fabregas > hitzlsperger
xavi = ballack
silva < podolski
iniesta >= schweinsteiger
torres > klose

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Casillas is better than Lehmann.

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casillas = lehmann

I envy you for your great knowledge

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german goalkeepers are the best in the world

and after lehmann, adler from leverkusen and neuer from schalke will become the 2 new super goalkeepers!!

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Lehman might have been good 10 years ago, but now? Have you seen him against turkey? Two lol goals and both he could (and should) have had. I'm pretty sure Buffon, Cech and Van de Sar are better much better keepers than Lehman.

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akinfeev > all \o/

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Xavi disagrees.

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wasnt impressed by him

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As Wesbo said, it's more like the likes of Buffon, van der Sar, and Cech first; then a host of other goalkeepers, then a big gap and then there's Lehman.

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Are you serious?!

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Don't mind, they can't know it better. ;D

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adler #1 !!!!!!!

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He will be the #1 after the tournament.

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omfg ballack s fraglic für das spiel.x:X:.x.x

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This is really useless. :D

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"casillas = lehmann" ROFL! You cant be serious man...

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u watched the final i guess?
lehmann owned

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Ok but overall he is far from top goalkeeprs in the world :) but nice final

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Fail.

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SCHLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAND!

spain might be more nervous, thats our chance!

my thoughts of their current level:

casillas > lehmann
ramos > friedrich
puyol > metzelder
marchena < mertesacker
capdevila < lahm
senna < frings
fabregas > hitzlsperger
xavi < ballack
silva =< podolski
iniesta > schweinsteiger
torres > klose

but teamplay will decide..

xavi > ballack, who has done no good match this ec.

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Not really, it was just not so obviously.

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yeah, he plays great. he doesn't deffend good, he doesn't shoot many goals and doesn't give assists. Most overrated player. He has many passes, but I really think any pro can pass like him.

okay, his goal against austria was excellent.

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QuoteTournament Player - Michael Ballack

Ballack football bootsWith three fixtures to go, Michael Ballack looks like our favourite to be crowned player of the tournament.

The analytics prove that the German captain is an outstanding team player, who contributes all round.

Speed - Ballack comes in at a healthy 8th place with a top speed of 30.88 kmh - 19.19 mph.

Distance - Ballack has covered 46.27 km - 28.75 miles. He is sitting 5th in this league, but has played 30 minutes less football that any of the players who have covered more distance.

Passes - In his 360 minutes of football, Ballack has totalled 192 passes, just 18 less than the tournament leader, Ballack’s compatriot Philipp Lahm. 152 of Ballack’s passes were completed too, that’s a respectable 79%.

Fouls Suffered - He’s been fouled 12 times by his opponents, only four other players have suffered more fouls.

Michael Ballack is an attacking force too, he’s scored twice, hit the target three times and has seen three shots wide. As captain of Germany he has most definitely led by example.

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ok, maybe we have xavi > borowski.
I think there you would agree?

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Yes. Ballack seems to be injured. What a disaster...

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Ballack is a disaster.

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i dont agree

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Ye, he was even worse tonight!

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GO GERMANY!

spain 2-1 yermany

germans imo

fanboi

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all >

Spain 2 - 3 Germany

4:1 Spain

spain might be more nervous, thats our chance!

my thoughts of their current level:

casillas > lehmann
ramos > friedrich
puyol > metzelder
marchena < mertesacker
capdevila < lahm
senna > frings
fabregas > hitzlsperger
xavi < ballack
silva < podolski
iniesta < schweinsteiger
torres >= klose

but teamplay will decide..

u cant compare silva with podolski!!! silva and schentieger, thats aye, and silva takes it big time
villa >= podolski, torres > klose for SHURe

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my turn

oh shit, she's not shy :D

image: supporter_bresilien

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porn star maybe =/? :o

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anyway, shy girls ownez too ^_^

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yes, i think, a girl who look likes shy is so sexy ;D

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:O) shy smily

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where did u get that pic?

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in every spain topic, someone putted that pic
now it was my turn :D

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damn i love my country <3

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great boobs tbh o_O

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and so fake :D

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like i care :P

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OH MAN! SHE IS HOT! <3

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OOOOO()()()()())()(ooOOo()9o0O)(O)O)o0PS

omfg

spain!

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finally, it's almost over... :}

http://www.fifa.com/confederationscup/news/newsid=817996.html#the+best+form+attack

read it guys =]

also a note to danL and drvac: "Netherlands particularly prolific, Russia consistently attacking and Turkey nothing less than explosive". i think fifa agrees with me that turkey werent really defending in this tournament =]

I hope

Spain will take it.

spain will win

Germany will win :)

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who is that ? :x

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I hope it will look like this tomorrow :)

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ballack injured :(

latest infos said he'll prolly play..
http://www.bild.de/BILD/sport/fussball/EM-2008/2008/06/29/wende/jogi-loew-plant-mit-michael-ballack,geo=4990134.html
best source xD

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3 : 1

izi bash for Germany

izi for Espania ;DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

nope

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ESPANIA!!!! GO GO GO ;DDDD

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espania

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Span is much stronger, but if Germans were able to made it to fianl with that performance I wouldnt be suprised if they won.

When Spain plays like they played against italy, they aren't stronger.

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they had one bad match which they won anyway, you had one good.

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GERMAN PITBULLS WILL RAPE THOSE SMALL SPANISH FAGS TOTALLY

senna > frings

2:1 germany :D

3:1

oh just not ballack :|

couldnt care less

haha :D

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:DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

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ROFL IS THERE A VIDEO?

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:DDDDDDDDDDDDDD

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2-1 for germany.

2:0 SCHLAND

3 - 1

F. Torres will score at least once.

YOU'RE RIGHT.

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50 % right!

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100%SIR

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vamos españa!!!

go casillas

go fabregas

go gnajda!

España por favor

as always you have no idea what you're talking 'bout old man

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lol gtfo

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SCHLAND!

yermanyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

torres 1-0 ;o

0:1 :<

Shit game

Spain <3

Germany did pretty well, sad thing that Lahm lets a girl like Torres push him away. Lahm is a good player, but he needs to use his body much more. Final is over, Spain is just gonna wait and see and Germany can't do much. Probably gonna be 2:0

torres ...

That referee is a joke.
I mean, captains come to talk to him, and he gives yellow to both, right on

true

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That was pretty bad indeed, he should've taken the guys involved and just talk to them, like all those kinda small incidents were handled in the matches before. Especially the yellow card for Casillas was a bad joke.

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?
He sent Casilas back to his goal, Casillas didn't obey, but keep on discussing.

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like i said before 2:1 for Spain. But have a lil drop of faith that Germany will win ;)

omg LAHM IS OUT

gg referee . missing 1 penalty and a red card

italy.

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HAAHAHAHAHHAHAH

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no penalty

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erm ? 2 times "hand" , 1 time obviously

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1 time hand and your Lehman made hand outside box. Dont be so one sided, be objectiv. And it wasnt penalty, he was outside the box aswell.

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well: penalty > free kick

and this wasnt the biggest mistake ...

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the referee was fine and everything went fine, so stop whining. Spain played better, just check those attacks they made. Germany did nothing.

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germany didnt played well, but the referee whas so fucked up dude ...

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stop blaming the referee

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i wont

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It's quite clear from the replay that his foot was inside the box.

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ALLES IST VORBEI !!!

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true, red card for lehman !

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scheiss Rosette

OLLLE OLLE OLLEE

'schade deutschland alles ist vorbei'.

"schade polen alles war schon nach den gruppen spiele vorbei"

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you have 2 polaks in ur team so stfu

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gomez can become the hero now

2:0 ESP imo

shit game

k das wars :(

omfg

-.-

'-_-

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yes!

That was quite boring..

SCHADE DEUTSCHLADN ALLES IST VORBEI ALLES IST VORBEI !!!

BiBUY germany :XD

booooooooooooooring

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BB GER :D

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hi can u speak tamil?

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Yo, no I can't, I only understand the hindustan language

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ah ok :)

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ESAAAA RATAAAA MUERTAAAAAAAAA

VIVA ESPAÑA !!

BIBUY GERMANY !!!!!!!

GUDAGAMINGA !!!

see u next wm :'(

too easy tbh

luckmap...

wp both

who won?

Germany ofc

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el kanacken

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1:0

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hahaha.

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ESPANJAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

ha fucking ha, the luck ran out...

wd España

GG WP, i think Torres is Cheater =x

Germany deserves the loose,congas spain

Awh, well, it was a regular final, almost no football. Especially second half, more players laying on the ground than actual playing. Good thing we don't have to watch this kinda crap for 2 years. Cya at worldcup 2010, lol.

SILENCE PAINY, ESPANAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA I WILL GET SO WASTED TONIGHT ESPANAAAAAAAAAAA

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nigga plz, why are you rooting for Spain, cause you wanna be against Germany? or because you're one of those who suddenly decides to be fan of a team that has the best chance of winning?

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damn pain, dont take me as a football noob. I have been in spains side for my entire life, not only for their national team but for la liga too

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k, no sweat, but don't dare to root for Finland ;-)

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btw I won 5 e cause spain won ^^ before the tournament started I put 1e for that they win ^^

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The first half was very intresting, attacking, attacking etc. Spain was attacking more.

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Yeah, that's true, based on the first half Spain deserved the win. Not because they were that much better, but simply because Germany made some horrible mistakes.
Once you're 1-0 down, it's almost impossible to beat those kinda teams. You have to give away space and you can't get into the game anymore because they hold the ball till they have the slightest reason to fall down and take a couple of minutes.

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2nd half Spain had more chances anyway.

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Of course, Germany had to open up and take risks. Would've been totally different if it still was 0-0.

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blablabla it was a great match, gtfo!

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watch the replay

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EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSPPPPPPPPPPPAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

Campionééé !!

They deserved it

stop crying

wp spain, deserved

belgium shouldve won tbfh ! such a shame!

germany has a shitteam, was already surprised that they even made it to the final lol :/
russia, holland .. they are all way better than those bradwursten
gratz torres, nice game!

Russia isnt THAT good. russia fails under pressure. Lack of expierence prolly

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indeed, but their style of playing is just 10 times better than the "all big and strong, but no ball-skills" germans

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Neither Podolski nor Schweinsteiger, Lahm and Klose are big and tall.
In fact the German team is kinda small this time:|

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if you compare those players with the other talented players then the difference (the joy to watch) is big :P

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I agree that Germany lacks many skills, but they also have skills others don't have. They can adapt to their opponent and they can handle big games really well. Before the final I thought Spain was gonna own Germany. But the first 15 minutes Germany had everything under control and Spain couldn't do much. You saw against Portugal what Germany is capable off. Same thing was possible today till Lahm fucked up again.
As far as Russia and Holland goes. Holland played rather well in the groupstage, but was pretty bad against Russia. Russia was absolutely great against Holland, but they can't do that everytime. They were tired against Spain and they lacked the skills and experience to do better.

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Lahm screwed- true, but it's Lehmann who fucked up tbh- he should have stayed in the post- 2 defensors vs 1 attacker + not in front of the post = enough reasons to stay...

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wasn't my point, if you enjoy watching football, then you hate teams like germany :(
but what you said is true, they are always there when they need to (big tournaments)

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spain deserved the win

retarded ref xD

<333333333333333

update ur site pls :(

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Great ref xD, no red card and 100% goal not given due to a wnb foul, but nevertheless, Span played great gz

I dont know what match you saw but the few times Casillas actually had to do something he didnt look that save at all.
The Germans just never managed to get close to him.

At least Lehmann didnt fail...

<3 Glad Spain finally won some tournament. Tho I regret Spain

Raul - no

for him ;< Same like Brazil

Romario who wasn't taken although community whined like hell But Brasil won^^

raul is shit now...he is too old nowdays

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He had good season after last not good. + he's experienced

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deserved spain, gg

the refree had a bad day like the germans.
anyway it was deserved
the spanish team played the best football in the tournament
well played, gz

omg germany...

germany never deserved this final

they sucked so hard today...that was rly sad tbh

dont tell me that they deserved the final...they played one time good ok...against portugal they played fine...but against turkey and croatia ? omg....they had rly luck so they reached the finals....and then this omg sucked hard there

yes i live in germany....i would like to see them winning the ec but imo teams like nl , portugal and spain deserved the finals much more than "germany"

RazZaH<3Kebab on 26/06/08, 21:56:42 PM | Reply

ger will take it cuz they have löw

You are quiet a whore, aren't you?

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i said that for fun

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Yep - and all ur pro Germany comments before, too.

Just ridiculous. :)

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not rly^^ i was all the time for turkey and then germany beat them :P

germany had their chance today and they fucked it up ,..imo turkey would do much better but they lost ....care

wp spain

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...just like everybody who can't keep his opinion, who can't stay to his favourite team...

Still you are a whore, kkthxbye.

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shush kebab!
Germany didn't play many good matches, like Spain. But that doesn't really matter, because that's not how a tournament works. They deserved to proceed to the quarterfinals, they deserved a win against Portugal and they deserved a win against Turkey. So you can argue about other teams who got knocked out, who should've taken Germany's spot. But teams like Holland and Italy simply didn't win their quarterfinal, so no deserved spot in the final.

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germany was just fucking lucky always and im not talking about reaching finals or not....if u win the games ur in the final but it doesnt means that u deserved it ! and thats what im talking about

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I assume you're talking about the match against Turkey. But that wasn't luck. Germany fucked up time after time, that's why it looked like Turkey was doing really well. But in the end Germany knocked in 3 goals and should've gotten a penalty. So you can't really say they didn't deserve it.
It's a myth and a lame excuse that people say that Germany is always lucky. Germany does well in big matches, but despite that it's also the country that lost most worldcup and european cup finals. So I wouldn't call that luck.

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wp Torres / Casilla <3

wp ramos imo :P

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yeah indeed but torres made the goal :D

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Casillas made something? :o
He was more like a spectator!

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'schade deutschland alles ist vorbei'. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Germany deserved to loose, well played spain! showed best football in the tournament.

VIVA ESPANA!

Well deserved.

To King East: Seems like will and character ain't enough, you need some skills to win as well :D!

why a comment towards king east? he's a retard 1st class anyway

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Takes one to know one, innit? ;)

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You are basically backraping yourself with that comment, so eehm gg!

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No, I'm asking a question. What's wrong with you?

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Nothing wrong with me imo. You are avoiding the point.

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Spain fans > all imo

Although 2:1 was my prediction

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VIVA ESPANA!

winning team joiner :D

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:D

no no

deserved win for spain

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gg wp

fuck.

Well play!!!!

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GG ;DDD

nice flag

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gratz Spain, well deserved :D

is it fab?

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fo shoa!

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aight! they got great players =]

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wp Spain , bad day for germany

no, germany were lucky to get to the final with that lineup.

worst defensive side in the tournament. not to mention lehman is terrible.

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One single goal was Lehmann's fault - and today he held some nice shots.

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hes bad, accept it.

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Yep, sure. You can't base your argument on facts - but hey, I accept it.

Btw...England's goalkeeper wasn't that special at this EC, was he?

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hehe, cheap shot, but a good one :D

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check mate ;(

OMG HELIX IS GOING TO SAY SOMETHING REALLY STUPID NOW AND MAHBEH CAUSE A RIOT!

5-1

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coming from an englishmen

Lehmann was by far the best tonight.

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why coz he made one save?

LOL TRUE LEHMANN IS AWSOME COZ HE ACTUALLY MADE A SAVE, no wait, he even caught a ball !!!1111oneone

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You seem pretty retarded to me. Sorry.

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you seem retarded to me thinking that u even stood a chance against spain.

weakest defence in the tournament.

ballack is the only good player in that very average side...

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Well..obviously you have no idea about the football - or should I say soccer? - history.

Germany is known for be good if necessary and win against big teams - afaik everybody said that Portugal will be the end for Germany, mostly because of the same reasons which were given against Spain, too.

Ofc Spain played better and deserved to win, but it could have been otherwise, too.

Weakest defence in the tournament, right... That's why we were in the finals. ;)

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u do have the weakest defence in the tournament, germany are a team of average players right now. apart from ballack i should say.

and if you knew anything about german football history you would know that since the west germany victorious time, germany have played the same old football over and over, i wont deny it, i wont even compare germany to england this year, or over the past 2 years, england are just stars who are overpayed and under-acheive. and the reason for this is coz we dont host our players in our own country and they dont ever play together apart from international duty, not to mention we cant hold a solid lineup.

and imo england would have made the finals if we would have put out our under 21 side. coz at least they have teamwork.

germany has teamwork, but the defence is weak. and you know it, just think about your previous defensive lineups compared to your current. its not even close.

and i do know about 'the football' <- nice bad english by the way.

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"the football history" - if you want to correct my non-native English, plz do it in the right context.

It's absolutely right that the German team has no star players or superstars like other countries - like Spain or Portugal - have. I don't rly know, who you think is that superior on the English side, but I don't rly care about it. You know why?

Because it's a fucking team sport. And that's why Germany is able to compete against those super brilliant "We-are-so-much-overpaid" superstars. It's not all about individual skill, it's about how you act as a team. That is why Germany is such successful - yes, I count the second place as a success - nowadays.

Your statement that the German team hasn't changed his playing style in the last decade is just ridiculous and shows the total non-existence or your knowledge..

Oh, I forgot your criticism against the defence, how could I oversee such lovely argumentation..?

Our defence is not the best of the world, it does make mistakes. That's right. But just because u miss a Matthäus or who-the-fuck you are talking about, it doesn't mean that our defence now is bad. It's most of the time solid, but ofc it has its weaknesses.

Lahm for example was one of the best defenders of the tournament and brought lots of offensive energy. Maybe you didn't regard him as a defender tho...

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i did, he had a terrible game in the final, and the semi. but ofc coz he scored in your eyes that would somehow redeem his play

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Fernando Torres, Spain's number 9 !!

congratz to spain deserved win

hate to admit it but spain was the better team

still i think our team achieved something that many people hoped for but didn't expect
atm i'm kind a sad but also happy germany is vice european champion :)

2010 we will complete our medal collection ^^

Spain wasn't good. A team which has that many chances to score and just gets 1 goal, has something, which is really bad. I would have expected more goals, since the german defence has never been good and the best deffender (Lahm) didn't play half the game.

But a team which doesn't get balls in the offense is worse.

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Torres ole ole!!

:) :) :)

that the scenes of madrid? :)

Edit: and were u there?

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silva looks like a girl :D
but he plays nicely ;-)

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