Fuck school.
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6 Jun 2011, 23:44
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Supsqi
So I'm thinking about dropping out all together, cant be bothered with studying anymore when 90 % of the stuff you have to learn is not of any relevance later on anyway. (When you're actually doing your job that is.)
People here who used to be / are in the same situation?
I don't mind working at all, it's just that I have this prejudice of the "uneducated university dropout that ends up with a shit job that doesn't pay anthing".
grtz
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Edit : I would like to do a job that "matters", something where you can notice how you are improving the world. (That sounds very philosophical but I mean it in a more down to earth way if you know what I mean).
So I'm thinking about dropping out all together, cant be bothered with studying anymore when 90 % of the stuff you have to learn is not of any relevance later on anyway. (When you're actually doing your job that is.)
People here who used to be / are in the same situation?
I don't mind working at all, it's just that I have this prejudice of the "uneducated university dropout that ends up with a shit job that doesn't pay anthing".
grtz
=(
Edit : I would like to do a job that "matters", something where you can notice how you are improving the world. (That sounds very philosophical but I mean it in a more down to earth way if you know what I mean).
hope you will learn too :/
Uneducated, doing a very low-paid job, doing a very hard/dirty job, not respected by people in general, financial troubles all life long, not being able to buy an own house ( my n°1 goal in life I think), etc
Fuck me.
im trying the "working my way up" method :) but i know some people that studied for 5-6 years and finished and are jobless now
and btw. what kevin said, is exactly what im going through atm...unfinished studies suck...but i had some other things that caused my demotivation, because i loved my studies in the first place
good luck with it!
Now i want to learn a new language, always wanted to do finnish but it isn't offered in the 2 schools that I want to go to so I guess i'll do chinese
i would go for spanish, but thats just me
- How long you got left until you finish?
- If you are not planning on working in the same industry/profession that you are studying for, will your qualification help you get a job that you would like to do?
People do well for themselves all the time without degrees/many qualifications, but only if they are motivated/lucky! If you are just going to bum around i reckon you might as well finish it, unless you really hate it..
I started with international marketing in february this year, but now I already know most of the classes here don't interest me one bit and will have nothing to do with the kind of job marketing gives you. ( Accountancy, Law, Media). Though there are some interesting ones aswell, ( Logistics, general marketing, strategical marketing, languages), they just don't outweigh the bullshit ones.
They only allowed me to start marketing because they had a deal with the school that my entire first year would be skipped, because I had already taken 14 out of the 18 classes. They will never let me restart somewhere fresh.
after that i started my studies (the ones i really was into) but couldnt finish, sad panda here.
everyone still says: "you have your profession already" but i hate that direction! going into the trading direction (not my thing) :/
seriously mate :P
Maybe start studying something in the logistics area as you seem interested into that.
Still, what does my age have to do with any of this?
And if you parents wont support you while you do something you personal like they need to be shoot anyway. Its not like you are wasting your life if you study logistics.
Doesnt the goverment support you students when they need money? Or go and find a parttime job.
If I wanted support from the government I would have to move out and be independant, though without a job it would be impossible to find a place to live.
point is that I leave for school at 8:00 and get home mostly at 19:15 or so (about twice a week I have school untill 21:30 so then I wont be home till 22:30/45).
And in the remaining time I need to do my homework (if not finished you can stay an extra hour at school for every time you didnt finish it :))) ) do assignments, find a place to do my internship, exercise etc etc
so ye the time I have left pretty much go up in my pc cba to work those few hours aswell.
Also, you can do a summer job (~1.500€) which you can use to pay the rent of a cheap studio for a while. If you live alone and have to pay for studies yourself, you can expect a scholarship fee of atleast 2 to 3.000 €. And as always, universities are really accomodating for those with monetary problems.
Ofcourse, this does mean that you'll have to live quite cheaply for a time and not everybody is willing to do that.
dafür gibs niemals englische wörter :P
for me personally i couldnt finish my studies, since i failed one important exam. and thatreally sucks! so now im having a hard time finding a decent job...so...
but the guy who is receiving ur cv wont look at what u learned at home but more at your diplomas and your graduation
but i guess it doesnt really matter at the end of your life you will finish alone
like everybody
i wouldnt advice u to stop school but more like do what u really want to do and think about the consequences
but you really should feel well with what you are/were doing
its the other people that makes you feel well (family,..) in my opinion you can do the worst job in the world and comeback home and be with your family and be happy
but too bad god made people thinks only for themself in most of the situation
but you are right
If you want to do something relevant, take a year off and go help poor people in Africa or something, maybe boosts your will to finish up your studies later on
thinking that what you learn now is useless as fuck, is gna be the biggest mistake you'll make as you will find out after youre done with school, and got into a job, thats its far from the truth
just saying
e: even the half a year of lawschool i did proves to be very usefull and i am gaining alot from the knowledge i got there
but hey i made my ABITUR with 2,4 with only learning 2,5 weeks ahead. could of done better though
A pic of us
Gnight bro
Don't start working now, like you said you will be underpaid and miss your college years.
I have a few friends that stopped studying and decided to go working. As long as you really invest some time in getting a decent job, you will find something. The most important part is being enthousiastic and showing u want to learn and improve in whatever job u want/get.
One of my mates is a salesman in A.S. Adventure now, wich can be a great job if you're interested in the stuff they sell. He had another job before (night shifts) and he got tired of that, but he already had the new job at A.S. before he even quit his previous one.
I always thought that u are fucked when u drop out, but from what I see around me it looks like u can end up quite well if you're motivated or have a great idea. It really suprised me how 'easy' my friends had it, without any kind or degree.
Anyway, either way study hard and just try to get over with it (depends on how long u still have to study ofc, read as: how many years) or quit, but quit before you're almost at the end (wich sucks).
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nah! its weird isnt it?
On cf
j/k
I'm doing alright now and hope to have a decent salary in a few years time. If you don't enjoy the subject, would you enjoy doing it as your job? If you are fairly smart you can make a lot of money without degrees & certificates. If you want to be guaranteed a job you will need to study for 10+ years to obtain your masters/doctorate etc. Is it worth it? I didn't think so & I'm thankful I made that discision.
Gl mate, hope everything works out :)
and thx :D
Im happy I dropped out of university and started studying practical nursery instead. I graduate faster, I will find a job most certainly and I will like what Im doing...
Although I have thought of continuing these studies in university but lets see. :D
And Kevin you are only 20, just do whatever you like but I think its a bitch to be 20+ without any kind of profession. Kind of disturbing to hear your parents told you what to study...
And all the people here who plan on going to work instead of studying, I highly encourage so. Countless of times has one gained back his motivation for studying after being knee-deep in some shitjob for 6 weeks.
- poor salary
- lots of moving
- you are working with people who dont give a fuck what they are doing. Neither will you soon.
- you are most likely socially retarded, your head is full of complexes. If not, this will follow in the years of duty.
- Sleeping in the forest (no pc, no internet, no crossfire)
- And like Hanso said, its viewed as a job for people who arent capable of doing anything else :D ( although I disagree with this )
well, you can get both at military, thats why its sad. military...your last chance-a-like
-paid pretty good during your studies ( and promotions ) + after
-jobsecurity
-cheap loans & governmental benefits
-adventure/feel-good when on mission
-shapes you into a fine young man
And those who aren't into studying can get various types of training and get the same benefits and get the chance of making a carreer in the army.
"the solution for people who can't even get a professional education nor a place to study at" is bs.
but think of it as "last-chance"-way
no offence
I can study at any university I like but I prefer to go to the military one (and so do loads of other young guys : with a total of 300+ people taking the entrance-exams for 51 spots).
Don't know what made you so narrow-minded about the military, if it's just to become a soldier I can understand the "last-chance" thought, but if it is to become an officer or NCO I think its the biggest bs ever lol.
kijk maar rond, te veel om uit te leggen:p
:P
Sadly Britain like to send troops into hot zones, so British army is quite a risk ¬_¬
and yeah its quite a crazy amount tbh:p
You going to study for officer? Captain Sup3r, olé.
En ja als ik binnen geraak eh :p
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3. Profit!
DO IT KEVIN, DO IT!
Why would you stop, you're already aware that ur futur job will be real crap
That would be me :-)
Quit university in 2008, enlisted in some VDAB-courses so I'd atleast have some stuff that could help me find a job but I've been unemployed for over a year mostly because I didn't have any experience and no exceptional qualities to do the job I was applying for (regular desk job). After almost a year I started applying for everything, and I've worked a while as a telemarketeer, a mailman and a few random warehouse-jobs.
After 3 years of this shit I've decided that dropping out was a bad thing to do, so I'm going back to school in September.
Two remarks that won't apply to the normal university drop out:
1) When I dropped out of university I was in some kind of depression (for a few years already). I gained 20 kg's in 2-3 years, was really insecure, even a phone conversation with one of my few friends would leave me sweating from uncertainty. This lead me to being doubtful of every jobopening (could I do this, weren't my qualifications too low, etc) which in return lowered my chances of actually getting a job. I also limited my searches for a job to those where I wouldn't have that much contact with other people.
2) I'm going back to school because I've realised that with my current qualifications and experience the chances of finding a job that can nurture my dream (travelling around the world and living abroad) is almost impossible. I think every country has more than enough uncertified warehouse-employees. So I'm going back to school to study for a teacher.
So, to sum it up: yes, dropping out of university is not the smartest thing to do. But if you WANT to find a decent job you don't need a university degree to do so. You just need patience, luck and you must be willing to do a few shitjobs in the meanwhile.
Whatever your decission, good luck. I sincerely hope you won't do as bad as me.
Sure, there's stuff you don't like/need. But if you start working now, there will also be stuff you don't like to do or stuff you like better than other stuff.
If you stay in school (it's only a couple of years) you will get a better/nicer job in which you will have more stuff you'll like.
So +-5 years school with stuff you don't like/need or 40 years of work which you don't like.
now i got exams here & i rly rly dont feel like studying, i dont mind taking classes, pretty much went to every1 of them, but i just can't study >.>
did u change ur name at LoL?
what about people who never went to university? :D
Because I didn't - instead I now got 9 years work experience and contributions, getting a job for me is really easy and while Ive been working I have pretty much constantly been doing on the job education (which, imo, is far more beneficial than university) where the next step would be doing a degree for me (I may do it eventually, not just yet)
Where as most people I know who went to university are now having problems getting a job 95% cannot get it in the field they are educated and are getting paid less than me. I felt that in general uni was a big risk as I could drop out - where as working even if boring and shit pay counts for something on a CV.
Also, most people I know many of whom went to uni are really jealous of my job, so win! :D
biggest bonus is that as I am only 16 hours per week I can do part time school courses from time to time when I feel motivated =)
And you got really lucky :D
But most people who didn't went to university also have a shit job!
I cant complain about the work I do, sometimes it is repetitive but I get to do some video editing which I enjoy a lot and I get paid to render video at home! :D cant complain about that =)
With 18000 pretax a year it should be hard to realise your dreams :p
But thats just my point of view ;)
Uni next year it is =(
ge leert gwn algemene shizzle, true, ma het is nu zo in België
gwn voortdoen en ni de dramaqueen uithange, kom eh :-D
ps: anders kunde zoals de spiro ramen gaan kuisen.. zlol
al die dagen sta ek aan u deur
ma tom zal u met plezier binnen laten